Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[garamonde]

Think about how you respond when others suggest, usually jokingly, that you're a pedophile for liking anime or vTubers or whatever it is.

They're not wrong though.



btw, is Nintex an european larping as an american? 

[killamajig]

Right-wing commies
Leftist Nazis
Point their fingers
Rumours linger

We don't care what you think
We don't care what you think

Branded sexist
Labelled racist
Want it clearer?
Check the mirror

We don't care
We don't care
What you think
What you think
We don't care
We don't care
What you think

Lies and slander in vain try to shame us
Riots, protests, violence just makes us famous

TV interviews, free publicity
Increase record sales dramatically

The left they say I'm a fascist
The right calling me a communist

Hate hate hate hatred for all - one and all
No matter what you believe
Don't believe in you - and that's true

Yeah

We hate everyone
We hate everyone

Some would say that we're biased
Accusations that we are racist

Well, shit comes in all hues
Now this means you
'Cause things ain't always like they seem
Like they seem

We hate everyone
We hate everyone
We hate everyone
We hate everyone

We hate
We hate
We hate
We hate


We don't care
What you think
We don't care
What you think

We don't care
We don't care
What you think
What you think
We don't care
We don't care
What you think

We don't give a fuck

Does the Bire need a theme song?

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Reeeeees theme song

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[Boredfrom]

but doesn’t seem to be totally clean

based on what?

But I also doubt you have any idea if the German government is full of shit at this point and prosecuting a political enemy or there is something there that is going to be ignored when they win and have the political capital of burying it.

what are they going to do that's horrible? give me some examples


this is your same old guilt by association "if musk likes them they must be bad" without having a single practical reason why anyone should feel any sort of way about them

But you also used the same bias: if leftists hate them, they aren’t that bad, specially since I agree with them about deportations. 

I can’t say if they assholes or not because:

1) I’m not German 

2) don’t follow German politics.

So yeah, I can’t give judge them as good or bad, like you probably couldn’t outside “I agree with their policies but I don’t live in their country.”

But, given that Musk in all his wisdom decided to involve himself in politics, hell yeah I’m going to judge them when he decides to appear on a rally. I’m sorry, but Elon is moving beyond “internet troll” by his own accord.

[benji]

All views that were not hinted at, let alone actually expressed by anyone and, again, especially not in the post you quoted.

Okay, in this particular case, I was not hinting the dude was pro Trump or anything. Just wanted to used it as base to discuss the idea about mass deportations “being necessary”. I agree with Potato that comparing it with Holocaust is stupid, and disingenuous.

So I was not trying to be snarky with that particular poster. 

Beside all that, I’m glad you actually explained and call me out.

I don't have a problem with that, but you often use language targeting people here, you're especially fond of "you guys" when it's inappropriate. Our American posters are by and large not pro-deportations and our European posters are generally specific about their particular situation. I think we should also consider whether comments may be taking something for granted, for example I am open borders but I would not hesitate to argue that if we were to do deportations (which we are) then being against them because it "looks" like "sending people to death camps" is a horrible argument against them. ResetERA.com members are very prone to argue in this manner rather than actually ever attempt to argue against enforcing immigration laws let alone to reform them.

I think that IF we are going to enforce immigration laws THEN mass deportations are necessary. But I, an open borders advocate, am not inclined to consider this a good reason to oppose either mass deportations nor immigration laws. Let alone to start granting credence to claims of it being a genocide or even harsh law enforcement. We should not do mass deportations because we should eliminate most of the immigration laws. ResetERA.com members don't argue this, their argument stops at "we should not do mass deportations because chuds bad." This is their entire reason for being on the "right side" of the immigration issue, they just hate chuds. Once they actually start discussing the issue this immediately breaks down and you see the fissures in their actual positions. This is why I'm a bit triggered by broad brush painting here, we have a diverse membership on the issue and that's great even if everyone else but me is wrong. We shouldn't pretend everyone here is either correct like me or wrong for opposing me even though they are. That's how ResetERA.com bubbles itself into thinking nobody disagrees with them and then can't even discuss the topic, something that happens across all kinds of issues over there.

I'm not trying to be too caustic about this because we can all be sloppy with language but I think there's real discussion value in making sure we're actually addressing actual posters rather than shadowboxing people we've made up because it's easy and ensures nobody reports us for antagonizing other members and dismissing concerns.

btw, is Nintex an european larping as an american? 

Nintex is worse than a European, he's Dutch.

[DocWager]

Musk is a person of power. He isn’t just Nep behind a pharmacy counter. You can’t just see him as a troll. Is he an asshole? Sure… But he’s also an asshole with a vendetta, and is an influence to the highest chair in the land.

[DavidCroquet]

All views that were not hinted at, let alone actually expressed by anyone and, again, especially not in the post you quoted.

Okay, in this particular case, I was not hinting the dude was pro Trump or anything. Just wanted to used it as base to discuss the idea about mass deportations “being necessary”. I agree with Potato that comparing it with Holocaust is stupid, and disingenuous.

So I was not trying to be snarky with that particular poster. 

Beside all that, I’m glad you actually explained and call me out.

FWIW I didn't take it as any kind of personal callout against me. I think I largely agree that mass deportations are not strictly necessary, and certainly not in the way Trump is sort of playing this like DeportationBowl 2025. 

But I also think the topic isn't some black and white, right and wrong, only-one-correct-solution scenario, so I'm not too worked up about it either. 

[Eric Cartman]

Reeeeees theme song

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[Eric Cartman]

Musk is a person of power. He isn’t just Nep behind a pharmacy counter. You can’t just see him as a troll. Is he an asshole? Sure… But he’s also an asshole with a vendetta, and is an influence to the highest chair in the land.

or - hear me out - is the eye opener some people really need that twitter is not a real place and shouldn't actually hold any influence over people

[DocWager]

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Musk is a person of power. He isn’t just Nep behind a pharmacy counter. You can’t just see him as a troll. Is he an asshole? Sure… But he’s also an asshole with a vendetta, and is an influence to the highest chair in the land.

or - hear me out - is the eye opener some people really need that twitter is not a real place and shouldn't actually hold any influence over people

The chair of the President, not the chair at Twitter.

[Nintex]

On the afd, if the afd is the only party promising to do something about migrants not integrating and doing crimes people are going to vote for the afd of the crime and lack of integration is a problem.

On top of that It seems a lot of western countries are running up against the Milton Friedman principal that you can't have a modern welfare state and open borders. While the borders aren't completely open, governments have basically had them open with a wink - we won't try hard to prevent you from coming and we won't scrutinize too much if you get in and we're going to ramp up legal immigration at the same time while not building the infrastructure to take care of all these new people.

The current migration issue is just a policy issue. I think Trudeau of all people explained it best.
Governments panicked because post-COVID the recovery was slow, people didn't immediately start to go shopping or went to work again. Plus there were many cases of long COVID and lots of older workers had died. The thing they feared most was an economic recession and deflation.

The solution? Bring in more migrants to quickly fill up the gaps and give big business incentives to hire migrants through DEI programs and cheap credit.
Europe was already doing this to fix the birth rates but they simply put the pedal to the metal.

However while in the US and Canada one thing went wrong, in Europe two things went wrong.
1) Just like in the US and Canada apart from people willing to work a lot of bad hombres came over and people with no education at all
2) Russia invaded Ukraine, which caused an unforeseen influx of Ukrainian refugees (who actually do work and are much more competitive in the labour force than Africans)

and inflation (that they hadn't foreseen) took care of the rest.

Now the thing is, you can't really go back as an establishment party (let alone a left wing party) with the message that "guys we fucked up, you were right, we should've shut the borders". Especially because there is an entire asylum industry making good money and a lot of NGO's, activist judges, lawyers etc. who hate yt peepo and want to push diversity in their ranks. And in the case of Germany, they badly wanted to be on 'the right side' of history on this thing. But it turned out that once more they were on the wrong side.

[Snoopy]

Marine Le Pen cut all links with the AFD. That’s Marine Le Pen. If your party is so extreme Marine  is calling it extremist then there’s a problem.

Or it's because she's trying to win a majority in the second round.

Obviously she wants to win a majority. That goes without saying. That doesn’t change the fact that she’s the one calling them extremist. It’s like a night drunk shaking their head at a day drunk

[BIONIC]

Dear god everyone stfu

[Uncle]

but doesn’t seem to be totally clean

based on what?

But I also doubt you have any idea if the German government is full of shit at this point and prosecuting a political enemy or there is something there that is going to be ignored when they win and have the political capital of burying it.

what are they going to do that's horrible? give me some examples


this is your same old guilt by association "if musk likes them they must be bad" without having a single practical reason why anyone should feel any sort of way about them

But you also used the same bias: if leftists hate them, they aren’t that bad, specially since I agree with them about deportations.

wrong, I am asking questions and giving the mildest pushback on the idea that they are an evil political party

I said "is AFD even actually bad in any way or is it just a political party"

I didn't say "omg AFD is super awesome and I love musk so much"

I offer thoughts to be considered and you just come back with "musk bad so they must be bad," as if that's evidence of anything

But, given that Musk in all his wisdom decided to involve himself in politics, hell yeah I’m going to judge them when he decides to appear on a rally. I’m sorry, but Elon is moving beyond “internet troll” by his own accord.

guilt by association is ridiculous

if musk said "we need to end the cartels and I have nothing but love and respect for the mexican people" would you suddenly start hating yourself and loving the cartels

if AFD is growing in popularity among the average person in the country, don't their opinions matter way more than musk's?

[Nintex]

Afd won't win the election, it'll be the Christian conservative guy.
Their result will be better than expected though, but outright winning? The numbers just aren't there.

Musk presence will likely also cause an increase in voter turnout for the left. They've seen Trump get elected so they're motivated.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Also why bother crashing out over politics when you could be chilling playing Ninja Gaiden 2 Black  and preordering Doom Dark Ages? 

I would love to hear Comediansmasher rage about this one 

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-friend’s-girl-is-flirting-with-me-more-and-more-and-more.1092195/page-5#post-134891997

I opened this thread and went, "Oh, one of those times a member can't handle basic human interaction because they're always online" and now I'm all "This is art, this is kino, this is entertainment." lol

The Fun Thread That Was Prophesied has arrived, and all it took was a homeless junkie to show Era how it's done.

[Alpacx]

The current migration issue is just a policy issue. I think Trudeau of all people explained it best.
Governments panicked because post-COVID the recovery was slow, people didn't immediately start to go shopping or went to work again. Plus there were many cases of long COVID and lots of older workers had died. The thing they feared most was an economic recession and deflation.

The solution? Bring in more migrants to quickly fill up the gaps and give big business incentives to hire migrants through DEI programs and cheap credit.

You say that, but the in Canada's case the big temporary worker/international student boom didn't really ramp up until 2022 after Trudeau signed his supply-and-confidence agreement with the social Democrat NDPs, which was also after Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the inflationary pressure from that.

The justification was a labour shortage and they were afraid of a wage-price spiral so they brought in a huge underclass of labour like we're Qatar for Instacart/Uber/Tim Hortons to keep wages of the lowest income Canadians down.

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https://x.com/MikePMoffatt/status/1822744930856386566

Housing got even more expensive, emergency room wait times got even more ridiculous, Food bank usage is at all time highs. This being Canada we haven't seen a far-right anti immigration party rise up yet and the most vocal opposition to the huge surge in low skill immigrants was from bank economists worried about the housing market and labour productivity.

[benji]

Dear god everyone stfu

Okay but shutting the fuck up doesn't actually solve the problem of capitalism.

[benji]

Edit: what the fuck am I fucking up about X embeds? 

Delete the the "?t=" and stuff after it in the URL.

[Alpacx]

Edit: what the fuck am I fucking up about X embeds? 

Delete the the "?t=" and stuff after it in the URL.

Thank you for not dismissing concerns Benji. Fucking link tracking

Sweeney

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Edit B-Dubs, your label system doesn't work sitewide?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-a-tip-for-anyone-making-a-us-political-thread.1092330/

When creating a thread, do not do it from the https://www.resetera.com/ home page. If you do, you get the following options:

Instead, create it from the Etcetera page itself at https://www.resetera.com/forums/etcetera-forum.9/
You will get additional options.

By creating it here people can filter out political threads and not know every time something stupid happens. That is all.

In that thread: people wanting a politics subforum.
 

[nachobro]

thrilling resetti talk on this page


https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-friend%E2%80%99s-girl-is-flirting-with-me-more-and-more-and-more.1092195/page-6#post-134896242

homeless junkie wacked out mental patient who thinks hes the coolest guy ever is a weird larp, but the last bit really helps it fit in on resetti

[benji]

Thank you for not dismissing concerns Benji. Fucking link tracking

If anybody uses Brave it has a "copy clean link" in the right-click that's supposed to remove these. (Though it doesn't work for every website.)

I've tried a bunch of different regex instructions but can't seem to get it to pass through everything but also properly switch the URLs. It also screws up if there's blank spaces after the URL which is dumb.

I love that nobody at X THE EVERYTHING APP has realized the URL change has broken their embed script and nobody at Bluesky seems bothered in having an embed that doesn't need HTML abilities.

[railGUN]

Also why bother crashing out over politics when you could be chilling playing Ninja Gaiden 2 Black  and preordering Doom Dark Ages? 

I would love to hear Comediansmasher rage about this one 

Dude wouldn't make it past the start screen.

[Potato]

Right-wing commies
Leftist Nazis
Point their fingers
Rumours linger

We don't care what you think
We don't care what you think

Branded sexist
Labelled racist
Want it clearer?
Check the mirror

We don't care
We don't care
What you think
What you think
We don't care
We don't care
What you think

Lies and slander in vain try to shame us
Riots, protests, violence just makes us famous

TV interviews, free publicity
Increase record sales dramatically

The left they say I'm a fascist
The right calling me a communist

Hate hate hate hatred for all - one and all
No matter what you believe
Don't believe in you - and that's true

Yeah

We hate everyone
We hate everyone

Some would say that we're biased
Accusations that we are racist

Well, shit comes in all hues
Now this means you
'Cause things ain't always like they seem
Like they seem

We hate everyone
We hate everyone
We hate everyone
We hate everyone

We hate
We hate
We hate
We hate


We don't care
What you think
We don't care
What you think

We don't care
We don't care
What you think
What you think
We don't care
We don't care
What you think

We don't give a fuck

Does the Bire need a theme song?

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RIP Pete.



This would be their theme album

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[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-a-tip-for-anyone-making-a-us-political-thread.1092330/

in this thread, resettis bitch about wanting a completely seperated politics subforum. can't wait to see how bdubs fucks this up....maybe shit on them for wanting it, maybe insist his bootleg solution is actualy genius and they are dumb, maybe just close it with no response at all.

whatever it is he does, we can be sure it will be a dumb response

[killamajig]

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-friend’s-girl-is-flirting-with-me-more-and-more-and-more.1092195/page-5#post-134891997

I opened this thread and went, "Oh, one of those times a member can't handle basic human interaction because they're always online" and now I'm all "This is art, this is kino, this is entertainment." lol

The Fun Thread That Was Prophesied has arrived, and all it took was a homeless junkie to show Era how it's done.

Obvious troll.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-a-tip-for-anyone-making-a-us-political-thread.1092330/

in this thread, resettis bitch about wanting a completely seperated politics subforum. can't wait to see how bdubs fucks this up....maybe shit on them for wanting it, maybe insist his bootleg solution is actualy genius and they are dumb, maybe just close it with no response at all.

whatever it is he does, we can be sure it will be a dumb response

I don't know what you're worried about, this will work out just fine. You'll see.

Look at this in the mean time

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[Alpacx]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/psa-a-tip-for-anyone-making-a-us-political-thread.1092330/

in this thread, resettis bitch about wanting a completely seperated politics subforum. can't wait to see how bdubs fucks this up....maybe shit on them for wanting it, maybe insist his bootleg solution is actualy genius and they are dumb, maybe just close it with no response at all.

whatever it is he does, we can be sure it will be a dumb response

The best part is if he makes a politics sub-forum he'll have trans people posting political shit in offtopic  because "My Existence Isn't Political" and non trans people will be annoyed at the politics shitting up offtopic.

He can't win with the userbase he's catered to.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/angry-video-game-nerd-james-rolfe-finally-going-all-ass-out-on-gamergate-game-awards.1090881/page-10#post-134875785

User banned (permanent): Dismissive commentary. Prior severe bans for racism and sexism.

Dude is 44 and has 2 kids + no other jobs and the youtube thing isn't as profitable as it used to be. Matei was his childhood friends and they had literally grown up together, although there was never a debate on screen, both of them confirmed that there were some talks behind the scenes and they decided to split and do what they like the best (this moment happened after the Matei comics went viral). As for Screwattack, people might have forgotten but before youtube his videos used to be streamed over there and I'm sure he goes way back with this guy and has some sort of gratitude toward him. I know that on Era there are some extreme views like I wont talk to my mother anymore because she voted Trump but in the real world people try to compromise or not put politics in all the aspects of their life.
With that being said, I have no idea how Rofle is in his day to day life, he still might be the incarnation of Hitler and might perform some KKK meetings in his basement but nothing that he has done so far makes me call him a bigot or a nazi.