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(07-04-2024, 09:02 PM)Nintex wrote: Labour landslide

Oh my, those moans
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Let's hope Starmer can bring back sensible social democracy and doesn't end up being forced to jail J.K. Rowling on behalf of the queers for palestine.
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(07-04-2024, 10:45 PM)Nintex wrote: Let's hope Starmer can bring back sensible social democracy and doesn't end up being forced to jail J.K. Rowling on behalf of the queers for palestine.


Worst case Starmer is Hollande, best case he's Atlee. He's the guy you want when Ukraine is on the table.
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I'm interested to see how Sunak comes out of this. Will he shoulder the blame or will the Tories actually do some self-reflection and realise that Boris Johnson was the clown in chief and Sunak was just left holding the ball?
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Liz Truss lost her seat. Lol. Actually the worst politician in the world.
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JK just swinging hard now



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Snob Gun Smug Win But that's none of my business... Applause Applause Applause Applause
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Rees-Mogg gone too?  Delicious



Man they are utterly fucked. No question their party members double down on the culture war garbage and pick Suella or Badenoch as their new leader. Both of whom will be absolute electoral cancer.

Rest in piss for the next decade!
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(07-05-2024, 10:12 AM)Tycoon Padre wrote:

One of the things I genuinely love about British democracy is that on election night you have the man dressed as baked beans standing next to the millionaire investment banker, the absurdly rich prime minister with a man called Count Binface wearing a trash can on his head, or the Oxford-educated cabinet minister in a Savile Row suit next to a bloke who hasn’t showered in a few days and is running because the council fucked with his allotment. All in a decrepit community centre. And they all shake hands, congratulate the winner, and nobody questions that it’s brilliant.

“Dave Smith from the Free Gaza Legalise Cannabis Bring Back Hanging Alliance: 12 votes.”
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The yanks lack whimsy
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(07-05-2024, 12:01 AM)Potato wrote: I'm interested to see how Sunak comes out of this. Will he shoulder the blame or will the Tories actually do some self-reflection and realise that Boris Johnson was the clown in chief and Sunak was just left holding the ball?

The irony is that the public voted for Boris in huge numbers and then the party did everything to replace and undermine him as they did with Theresa May.

Of course, he would've gotten less votes this election than he did 5 years ago but still, if they had kept Boris in for 5 years or called for new general elections instead of appointing Liz Truss the drop-off likely wouldn't have been as big as it is now. I can't recall another time when party infighting undermined the actual governance of a country like this.

This is truely a case of 'what the fuck where they thinking?'.
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(07-05-2024, 06:52 PM)Besticus Maximus wrote: The yanks lack whimsy
Our government protects us from having frivolous candidates on the ballot. Democracy is too sacred to allow just anyone to waste everyone's time. ufup
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Let's see if Starmer can actually change things around for the Brits. 
Rebuilding the public sector is expensive and will require higher taxes.
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(07-06-2024, 02:49 AM)benji wrote:

The King’s speech is going to be crazy in a couple of weeks.
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Say what you like about Macron, but the lad has a gigantic swinging pair of bollocks on him. Calling this election when he did required courage where many would have tried to surf events.
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The France left Popular Front won the election in a surprise upset.
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(07-07-2024, 06:05 PM)Nintex wrote: The France left Popular Front won the election in a surprise upset.


But he called it to put the question to the people, do you want the far right or do you want to fuck them off? And he achieved his main objective and did the rest of us a huge favour in the process.

It's a good result for him personally, too. He can play the moderate in the presidential elections.

His party is naff but I'm warming to how he carries himself. Multiple times he's bet everything on a coin flip and came out on top now.
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The right keeps shooting itself in the dick across Europe with the Ukraine/Russia stuff but also no new ideas to curb inflation.
But most of all post-COVID very few people in Europe are interested in growing their wealth, investing or starting a new business anymore.
Most want boring 9 to 5 corpo, NGO or government jobs and a safety net. 

In that sense Europe is decoupling rapidly from the US and a lot of Europeans (both natives and immigrants) don't see a system where everyone is being provided for (i.e. China) as a bad thing. At this point we're also close to 20 years removed from the last time the neo-liberal EU economy was 'booming' and growing at the same pace as the US.

I think in the near future we'll see a different kind of migration. Nationalists, entrepeneurs, family business owners and conservatives moving to Italy, Switzerland and other countries with right wing/christian conservative governments or moving to America or Asia. If 60% - 70% of a country happily allies with the communists and greens there is just no reason for them to stay and lose their wealth.
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SCIENCE!
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It's seats vs votes. The left only got ~25% of votes vs 40% for RN. 

The left wing leader says France will recognize Palestine and Arabic will be an official language. 
The debt projections don't look fiscally responsible either.

What will we call Islamic France? The Fraliphate? Francistan?

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ISIF
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I thought they didn’t want a far right rule?
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I can't say i'm a huge fan of either of those two cuckservative parties but it does feel somewhat insane that both Reform and NR had quite a large amount of popular support yet achieved so little with it. We all know how retarded FPTP is, but Reform having the 3rd most votes and only 5 seats compared to LD having 1m less votes and achieving 72 seats is mind boggling. NR getting the most popular votes and projected to win but getting cucked at the last minute by a communist coalition is shocking.

Idk, if I voted for one of those party I would be livid and lose all faith in democracy. Surprised there hasn't been rioting. But we know they won't do shit. western europe loves being replaced.
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It just is what it is.

Everyone knows the rules of the game. 

Left wing economic ideas just aren't that unpopular anymore after years of failed neo-liberalism.
The right wing parties, for all their bluster basically copy paste the conservative policies on the economy.

I think that if you organized a referendum in the entire EU to decide between the current form or a unified social state with UBI(universal basic income) and nationalized healthcare, energy, water and other utilities most people would vote for the latter. They don't really care which flag is printed on their hand-outs. The 'free market' only still works here because we can invest in foreign markets and wealthy foreigners invest in Europe. Remember that during COVID the big discussion was not about the government expanding its control over our every day lives, the main issue according to many was that the government was not doing enough to bring the dissenters in line.
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