01-20-2025, 06:23 PM
(01-19-2025, 09:18 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:(01-19-2025, 07:04 PM)DavidCroquet wrote: I’m normally all in on this whole line of argument, but it sort of elides that this girl was 19 year old homeless goofball dumdum, and not like…a sane adult with a normal job. Plus the other story of detail is him humping on his indentured servant lol.
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I'd absolutely say that he took advantage of her, but there is something weird about "when I gave consent I didn't actually give consent" that feels like a bad road to go down. Like can't quite put my finger on it because I do think she was a victim here.
Its an interesting article (I read the whole thing, not just the excerpts) and I think the two most salient points raised are:
- Why is it there is an all or nothing divide between "Bad relationship, oh well" and "Basically rape"?
- If women can't take accountability for their own actions or complicity in being in a bad situation because "Basically rape" is always the mans fault, doesn't that fundamentally infantilise women to the point that they shouldn't make any decisions at all?
Relationships can be messy, and it is not uncommon for someone to sacrifice their own happiness in order to please a partner.
To what extent that is complicity and to what extent that is coersion isn't going to be clear to anyone outside that relationship, and lets be honest, isn't always clear to the people in that relationship.