Azzie wrote:Quote:You can't normalize it like that…DLC costing extra is different, you're buying new content and expansions. Deluxe editions are optional niche products that typically include a bunch of useless stuff no one needs. We're talking about the base price of a game here.It has been normalised though. Many games have day 1 DLC at launch and Deluxe editions that include game content.
Very often you're just buying a flag to activate content that was already In the game but deactivated. I remember 2009s Dragon Age Origins having the Grey Wardens Keep DLC this way and Street Fighter X Tekken had its DLC fighters on its disk back in 2012.
Azzie wrote:Quote:So 2 games that came out over a decade ago. What first party games in 2025 have actual meaningful content that isn't included in the game at launch? Not talking cosmetics.
First Party would limit it considering neither examples I used are. But Starfield let you buy its first expansion at launch.
Though today is more they introduce a grind to obtain game content and present real money microtransactions to skip the grind. For 1st party games Crash Nitro Fuelled (originally) and Gran Turismo 7. Many of Valve's lootbox games are this too.
100 times out of 100 I would accept a base price rise for Mario Kart before I'd accept any of those kinds of microtransactions for a $60 game.
I'd be far more annoyed if Mario Kart World ends up having mobile style microtransactions than a base price rise. I purposely never played Mario Kart Tour for that reason.
Azzie wrote:This guy gets it and the Nintendo haters are spinning like mad. Virtua Racing and Phantasy Star IV were both over $100 because of how much advanced content was included yet you never hear this mentioned anymore while the fanboys turn around and are now complaining when Nintendo makes sure games are priced accordingly?Quote:Expansions aren't microtransactions…you're comparing apples and oranges here to justify Nintendos shitty price gouging.Look you're the one excusing cosmetics and going "first party only". Expansions, DLC and Microtransactions are all the same beast.
You're defending getting monetized out the wazoo and spending hundreds while you still think you're paying $60 for a game.
I'm just pointing out why comparatively $80 or in my case £75 for Mario Kart World isn't concerning me much when I know the sort of sums people are dropping on "$60" and "Free" games (and Im including Mario Kart Tour on mobile on this, i won't touch the thing).
Gaming is getting more expensive I get that, but I think it should be this way and not the DLC/Microtransactions way.
As another member points out saying that Switch 2 games is $80 is factually wrong as there are Switch 2 games that are not that price. Yet the haters keep repeating this untrue smear.