Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

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He isn’t wrong.

Why do you guys never provide examples let alone reply to the actual posts instead of this cowardly sniping at an imaginary everyone as if it will do something?

If anything it's the opposite tribal mentality that's more like Trump/MAGA that assumes because we're telling you if you're going to do this damned silly thing don't do it in this damned silly way we're somehow in league with and "suck the cock" of your opponents.

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An Indigenous person telling whites to go home to Europe is in the right.

Whites are settlers. Yes, even after all of these centuries, they're still settlers. Indigenous people are still- to this day- fighting colonialism and genocide.

No problem with what they said.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-15

Does she believe Indigenous people literally spawned out of the ground? This is a few North American (and possibly Mesoamerican? I forget) tribes creation myth btw.

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You said "Fascism isn't a European thing." How else am I- a Black person- supposed to take that other than this weird Eurocentric view that a lot of you around here have purported to express in the past that American racism is some unique thing that has no historical basis in the horrid ideologies you all kindly "exported" the world over?

And there's that colonizer haughtiness that thinks you can tell me what to do.

How is fascism Eurocentric? Fascism isn't even necessarily racist as she's trying to imply here, it's a theory about the proper role for the state within a society. The focus in Italy was the nation because Italy was a new nation, it had no historical legacy of being a combined singular nation with democratic institutions. Germany and many other countries were very similar in this regard! Even Spain! Countries with an established historical binding were thus pretty immune to fascism, as movements, because the "bundle of sticks" was already assumed by the populace. 

The Nazis didn't adopt American racism either, they didn't even really even adopt "race" as we know it, it's a far more psuedoscientific mythology that was quite different. Aryan supremacy wasn't like white supremacy, it wasn't about the establishment of socialcultural and legal castes/classes in an otherwise unchanged liberal democratic society. It was literally a belief that Aryans had superhuman potential that the state would unlock. The offense of the other classes, which notably included the disabled who aren't a race, was that they suppressed the ability for the Aryans to achieve their potential. It was steeped in a number of German specifics, this is why the Nazis had to force it on Italy despite both being fascist. Mushing American racism with Nazi racism is simplistic bannering everything "white supremacy" and condemning it while adopting the same mentality that underlies why both are bad things and why we should understand them to avoid them.

Most regimes everywhere are pretty fascist anymore, yet Nepenthe would dismiss this as imported by capitalism or some shit, not that fascism was an entirely logical step back from socialism's failure in practice. Fascism is really just authoritarian dirgisme, the latter of which is something which many countries perhaps most notably France practiced well before the fascist era. Islamofascism wasn't the insane thing it was mocked for being because many Islamist states are pretty fascist, they just replace the nation with Islam. The United States is "more fascist" now than it was in the past because the state controls an ever larger share of the economy and has a massively increased size of a police state backed by a militarization mentality. It's the same for a lot of countries but almost none of it is intentional. China's transitioned to something more like fascism because it was an authoritarian communist state that opened large swaths of its economy to private action heavily overseen by the state.

But the main reason she thinks fascism or whatever else is "Eurocentric" is because she's convinced white people and anybody with a skin color darker than a certain shade she refuses to specify (but probably stops before Asians) aren't the same species. Because she's an ignorant racist. The same also applies to a lot of her complete lack of knowledge about Africa and her insistent belief that all African and African-derived people are like upper middle class Black Americans from the urban South.

The bolder bit where you can tell they have zero knowledge of the time period and never bothered to actually look beyond anything.

Also as a complete idiot to fascism etc and all that political stuff I have to say that I do rather appreciate these Benji deep dives that explain stuff like he does in these types of posts, it’s very interesting.