Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-14#post-138560193

You said "fascism isn't European." That is the literal claim you made, and it is objectively wrong. Etymologically and historically, fascism is an Italian ideology.

This is true regardless of Trump being American. The ideology is explicitly European in origin. It is thoroughly white people shit.

You can say Trump is America's problem without effectively denying basic history.

The context is clear, let's not kid on. The conversation was not about the origin of fascism, neither etymologically or historically. No one is denying basic history, you're having a completely different conversation. You're a mod, do better.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-14#post-138560964

You said "Fascism isn't a European thing." How else am I- a Black person- supposed to take that other than this weird Eurocentric view that a lot of you around here have purported to express in the past that American racism is some unique thing that has no historical basis in the horrid ideologies you all kindly "exported" the world over?

And there's that colonizer haughtiness that thinks you can tell me what to do.

You can read the thread properly for a start. A pretty basic thing for a mod to have in their job description I'd have thought. Or you can continue to fight shadows and put words in my mouth.

Oops, I did it again!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-14#post-138561261

Or you can learn to type. I did read the thread. You were still wrong, both historically and morally.

My typing is perfecting fine thanks. I'd read it back again if i were you, as saying Trump shouldn't be sent to Europe isn't wrong historically or morally.

If love to know where you think Trump should be sent. Sending a convicted criminal from your country to another because you don't want to deal with them seems pretty colonialist to me.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-15#post-138562152

??????????????????

So you post an edit that was made after my initial posts from the *other* person having to clarify what they meant becuase it was idiotic, a subsequent post again after my intial posts, and a comment not posted by me to tell me the conversation i was in? What are you even doing here, beyond the absolute weirdest ego stroking side quest I have ever witnessed?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-15#post-138562806

He didn't clarify because it was idiotic. He clarified because you and plenty of other Europeans were unable to understand where he was coming from. And even after he said he was Indigenous, you still have refused to catch on.

It's also funny that you are complaining about me not addressing the part of the conversation you were in when this didn't start with you, which is basically an admittance that you didn't read the thread yourself.

Without clarification it is an idiotic comment. Send Trump back to Europe is based in no single facet of reality, without you having to resort to using wormholes to go back in time and insert a bunch of stuff about colonisation that wasn't in play neither from that posters original (pre edit) post, or my subsequent post saying 'deal with your own trash'.

You got my complaint wrong too, but I can't say I'm surprised at this point.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-15#post-138565857

How is the guy who said Fascism isnt European going to tell anyone anything about making idiotic statements. European delusion at the core.

You're just displaying wilful ignorance at this point about what I said. I guess this what happens when American exceptionalism crosses the current American education system.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-16#post-138574164

 

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It's amazing

I've been so nice and nothing…… no understanding

Willful ignorance…. You made a complete factually incorrect statement. You can't fucking cope that you fucked up and just own it. And when this entire discussion is expanded to elaborate all of the direct connections,

You double down and choose to completely ignore everything that was said by multiple people

And YOU are the one who's wrong, but call me willfully ignorant

You made a comment earlier about me yelling at ghosts.

You can't find that statement ironic when your whole point of contention is about some vent post saying send Nazis back to Europe…. Something that has no serious possibility of happening in any way….

And you winged about it constantly, to only accuse me of yelling at ghosts

You made two accusations of behaviors you personally showed in this thread.

Here's one of the most interesting details of your campaign in this thread

When you were presented with historical analysis of this situation, one of the first things you ran to was "historical wormholes". You somehow think that historical events are somehow unrelated to modern day events. To the point, you cling to new labels and identities in order to preserve your worldview that Europeans and Americans have some distinct separation when it comes to White Supremacy and Manifest Destiny. You are fully bought in on Westerncentric presentation of history and its events. You didn't even realize you pulled a common Right Wing tactic of disregarding history in order to do it.


You are the perfect example of European tendencies and behaviors that are 100% complicit in destroying the world and modern society.

You speak with no respect to history

You can't admit fault when wrong

You refuse to any sort of comprehension to observe your thinking outside of a white focused context


Your issue is not with the idea of people sending Nazis and fascists back to Europe. Your issue is that people now recognize that White Europeans are the base root of the problem and will openly speak on that without fear of reprimand.

And again, let's remind everyone, it only became a problem for yall when oligarchs decided to openly add you all into the ass whooping. It was fine when the targets was the rest of the world nations. It was fine when America was the big bully dog with NATO as they exerted their will on the globe

But now big bully dog America has decided to shit on the EU so now Fascism is "everyone's problem"

I am Black. I am the foundational and proverbial brick that "American Exceptionalism" is built off of.

The vast majority of what I know and learned did not come from the American education system. It came from reading history, detecting patterns and similarities, and observing white fucking nonsense like this thread in real time.

When you can finally comprehend the fact that fascism is not exclusive to Europe and can be practised by Americans is not a factually incorrect statement we can continue to talk, until then yes, you're being willfully ignorant by choosing to not understand the broader point being made and are fighting with shadows. Notice I said shadows, not ghosts, that was another poster. Yet another example of your confusion about what the hell is on going on in this thread. Or delirium. I don't know anymore.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-17#post-138575799

I comprehend just fine, you just refuse to own your mistake out of embarrassment

Unlike how I can admit I used the wrong word (ghosts / shadows), in your brain that somehow discredits everything else I spoke on. It's just a rant because I missed one word.

I did admit it, hours ago, not my fault you didn't see in in your fit of incoherent rage.

And the second part is pure protection lmao. That is *exactly* what you did to me. The arrogance and hypocrisy is biblical.

Look, I'm not shitting up this thread any longer as people (including me) don't want me repeating myself to a somehow sentient brick wall, so if you wanna discuss it further feel free to send me a DM. Otherwise I wish you luck with your American President 👍

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-and-el-salvadors-president-confirm-they-will-ignore-supreme-court-and-not-return-kilmar-%C3%81brego-garc%C3%ADa.1163862/page-12#post-138542991

User Banned (Permanent): Inflammatory rhetoric, dismissiveness regarding colonialism, and insulting various members across multiple posts

I'm descended from the Indigenous people of Puerto Rico/Borinquen. It's not *my* trash, and I'd like to see it returned to sender.

Trump is an American problem and has nothing to do with Europe. Fascism isn't a European thing.