(Yesterday, 10:13 AM)Snoopy wrote: This new alt is quickly becoming my favorite -
Quote:I got news for everybody: we are ALL complicit in what our leaders do in our names.https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-admin-now-says-might-not-be-possible-to-end-russias-war-on-ukraine.1168119/page-2#post-138730473
It seems Americans in particular struggle to understand how this could possibly be the case but that in itself is a peculiarity of American culture no better example of which could be found than to see someone arguing that addressing, never mind punishing, a population that cheers on evil, funds evil, votes for evil, does evil to its ppl and others... is somehow wrong. The failure to do this is why your civil war never ended, why crimes against the indigenous did not end in my country, why Nazis exist in 2025 at all.
Maybe you just get squeamish at the idea of consequences because you know they're coming for you sooner rather than later. Maybe when you're the one who feels like people are gonna blame you and hate you for what your people do to others, you just can't bring yourself to agree that you, too should face the music. But that's why some people are remembered as collaborators and others as rebels.
Are... are they saying there should have been mass murders of millions? Mass police suppression of any ideas the state can label as similar to those? Or what?
It's also interesting that they don't extend their point. Weren't all the "victors" of the Civil War and World War II complicit in the many many years they acceded to slavery and Nazis/fascists before they finally took up arms? In fact, the colonialist UK/France were the only ones who went to war. The US was attacked by the Confederates, the US/Soviets were attacked by the Axis, etc. The Soviets even were the other party invading and dividing Poland, the event that sent the colonialist powers to war with the Axis.
The latter paragraph seems to suggest that "rebels" are/were not complicit, but history shows that everyone is complicit if we use the standard they're advocating seriously. There have never been any true rebels, only collaborators. This person is a collaborator, they admit their leaders are committing crimes but they haven't eliminated them.
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