11-14-2023, 08:12 PM
(11-14-2023, 10:34 AM)Sman wrote: Nintex, are you from one of the "tribes"? Otherwise you care an awful lot about Jews (and anti Semites) for someone with no skin in the game. Is it just because of your politics?1. If we deny Israel the right to their state than we risk losing the claim of our own states.
The state that is now Israel used to mostly be a desert but it was literally transformed into an oasis through hard work and a marvel of engineering. I would say it is one of the few states on the planet than can legitimately "claim" their land, as they themselves created the conditions to make life possible. Much like the Dutch fought the sea to claim our land, the Israelis fought the desert to claim theirs. And much like we had to fight the Germans, French, English and Spanish for decades and often alone, Israel has always been under siege from their enemies on all sides. The Arabs simply want what they could not create themselves, a viable state in the middle of the desert.
2. The historical meaning
Israel is the land that was given to the Jews after WW2 so the remainder of their people could live in peace. It was earned by the sweat, blood and tears of many brave soldiers. Before the woke menace the Holocaust was an important part of Dutch education. We've all been taught a simple message: "Never again". In other words, speak up when you see anti-semitism and fight it with any means necessary.
3. Everything I disagree with is Hitler
Of course the left also learned this message and labels everything and everyone they don't like Hitler. So it is absolutely bonkers to see the cilmate movement take a 180 turn from 'saving the planet' to 'genocide the jews'. It shows that the unholy alliance between the Islamists and left wing actvists grows ever stronger and is eating away at the foundations of the civilized world. Both are eager to see it destroyed so they can claim the ashes. However it is clear that even with the relentless brainwashing of the main stream media a lot of left wing activists are having doubts if this is what and who their movement should stand for and stand with.