(07-16-2024, 05:44 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/donald-trump-suffers-ear-wound-at-pennsylvania-rally-in-probable-assassination-attempt-story-developing.926754/page-71?post=125799021#post-125799021I noticed this post only got one week compared to the other bans that got two weeks.
Quote:User banned (1 week): advocating violence
Advance.Wars.Sgt. wrote:HiredN00bs wrote:I think part of the problem is that we are unskilled at planning for these things on a large scale. The question isn't whether it's appropriate to fight fascists with violence, it's a question of when, where, and how to use it most effectively. I don't think assassinating Trump is an effective way to do that, and I think we are fortunate the attacker was unsuccessful.I'll answer the question for you: you fight fascists when they first show their heads.
Fascists are not interested in conversation, they're not bound to respect the parameters of politics, and they're certainly not opposed to using violence as a political tool. So what do you do when you face an opponent who is stubbornly bloodthirsty, inherently disagreeable, and will utilize any means necessary to achieve their goals?
You hit 'em, and you hit 'em HARD. And yes, that will also mean potentially killing them because some will NOT STOP. What you don't fucking do is spread "Violence is never the answer" BS to people who are ALREADY under threat of violence.
Seriously, FOH with that nonsense. Can't believe I'm seeing so many posts that are essentially saying "It's better to lie down and die without resorting to violence than live and be an aggressor". As Malcolm X said, if someone puts their hands on you, put em in the cemetery.
Even though he has at least one other post in the same thread:
(07-15-2024, 03:00 AM)benji wrote:(07-14-2024, 02:01 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote:Proposition: these posts are worse than the ones expressing wishes that Trump had died or shooter had not missed that got banned.advance wars sgt wrote:People who are not under threat from a Trump presidency are showing their asses with their meek non-violent mantras.https://www.resetera.com/threads/donald-trump-suffers-ear-wound-at-pennsylvania-rally-in-probable-assassination-attempt-story-developing.926754/page-69?post=125797896#post-125797896
You don't fucking WAIT until harm is done to then justify self-defense. A lot of the people in this thread are tacitly endorsing the death of many individuals because they can't stomach the fact that people want a violent fascist regime dead before it gets off the ground.
Soft as fuck. I really wish the world took more from Malcolm X in these instances, he would not be advocating for a quiet death of oppressed individuals like so many here are apparently OK with.
Those posts they've banned were emotional expressions unreflected on and allow the possibility that the user could be talked out of the position.
These posts are members, including an admin, intellectually justifying terrorism and mass murder in a democracy against their partisan political opponents.