Kulturkampf

[Potato]

I will say if the study happened as presented, it kind of sounds flawed, like yes obviously if you give someone leading literature they're going to have it rolling around in their head for at least as long as they're a captive audience

maybe that's the point, it just feels weird

if you force someone to read a paper that presents a strong argument that people named Sam have a tendency to be evil and sadistic, and then have them read a story about two anonymous people and ask which of them is more likely to be named Sam, obviously they're going to take what they just read into account

I think that sort of supports the point?

Imagine you work at a place that has occasional HR reminders about Evil Sam, along with quarterly required trainings that go more in depth Evil Sam. The general staff is going to analyze basically every interaction via the Evil Sam mental model.

"Wait...did she say her name was SAMantha?"

I think what's got me is the immediacy of it

"for the purposes of this study, 2 plus 2 equals 6. now tell me, what does 2 plus 2 equal?"

I don't know that this says anything about the actual long term effects of DEI training

oh it also doesn't attempt to measure potential positive outcomes like presenting various scenarios where legitimately someone was detrimentally affected and how you would handle the situation differently based on what you just read

that would be the tack that proponents would take, "ok so you might make an occasional bad assumption, that doesn't undo all the long term good"

It does have more than the sight whiff of culture wars to it

[Nintex]

[Potato]

[Alpacx]

[Nintex]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

[Eric Cartman]

Is it because they refuse to wear masks in public?

[Nintex]

That picture with the star and the balloons.

AI could never.

[killamajig]

Everytime I see the name Taylor Lorenz I have to google her because I can't remember who she is. As soon as I see her picture I'm like "Oh yeah, that kook"

[Potato]

I can never remember if she's a left wing kook or a right wing kook.

[Ethan]

The weird thing about Lorenz is that she's batshit online, but many people who would normally hate her are actually friends with her IRL and only have good things to say. Which is not really weird except that Taylor, unlike most normal people, forgot to use anonymity for her crazy online persona.

[Nintex]

Everyones favorite crazy lady

[Uncle]

I can never remember if she's a left wing kook or a right wing kook.

god I have the same problem, bunch of fuckin Staceys that all run together, took me a long while to finally separate who Marjorie Taylor Greene was from the pack (y'know, another Taylor)

[D3RANG3D]

[benji]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/dei-promotes-false-perceptions-of-prejudice-walmart-ford-finally-see-the-truth-opinion/ar-AA1vthgj?ocid=emmx-mmx-feeds&pc=EMMX01&cvid=e052537f0a6b4c94836fa6fed79329ba&ei=28

While DEI is supposed to lead to less bias and discrimination, the study found that diversity training actually caused more.

For instance, in the race-based experiment, the researchers divided 423 Rutgers University students into two groups. One group was given an essay about corn production. The other read excerpts from Ibram X. Kendi’s book “How to Be an Antiracist” and Robin DiAngelo’s book “White Fragility.”

After they read their respective selections, participants were given a race-neutral scenario in which an admissions officer at an elite university rejects a student’s application.

I will say if the study happened as presented, it kind of sounds flawed

Ironically, it's the exact same methodology used for lots of "social science" facts like those underlying DEI programs and the original "unconscious bias" studies.

[benji]

Similar to Taylor:

[Uncle]

Everyones favorite crazy lady

I feel like people have lost their ability to articulate their own thoughts

"well piers, I don't feel joy about the fact that a man is dead, it's the surrounding context and broader situation. you're not an idiot, you're familiar with the concept of having mixed feelings based on different aspects of an event? maybe a loved one loses a long battle with cancer, so you're sad from losing them but oddly happy that they're finally at peace. likewise, I'm sad that children no longer have their father, but there is a grim satisfaction in watching the conversation evolve and be expressed among the working class in bold ways it hasn't before"

it's still retarded, and maybe saying this I'm putting thoughts in her head that she doesn't have, but at least if you phrase it this way you sound less insane

[Rendle]

Hitler was a husband too

[Potato]

I can never remember if she's a left wing kook or a right wing kook.

god I have the same problem, bunch of fuckin Staceys that all run together, took me a long while to finally separate who Marjorie Taylor Greene was from the pack (y'know, another Taylor)

That's it. That's why I can't remember. Crazy sluts, both of them.

[benji]

[Alpacx]

[Nintex]

Like George Carlin said. 

It's a big club and you ain't in it.

[benji]

What matters is that it started a conversation.

[benji]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

imagine being white

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

What matters is that it started a conversation.

Yeah, a conversation about DEEZ NUTS

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

imagine being white

It's pretty great.

[Uncle]

imagine being white

It's pretty great.

[Alpacx]

[Polident]

what