Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Nep needs to learn from a true man of the people.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/page-5#post-132258549

You all fucking suck.

That's a direct quote from the speech we're supposed to give our families at thanksgiving.

[Besticus Maximus]

Look at all these empathy lords plotting to ruin their own holidays among family

Unsurprisingly Nepenthe is right in the thick of it, absolutely ripped to the tits with glee at the idea of people picking fights with their family under her direction

Banning people because they don't want to have your favourite psycho arguments with their family during a meal

[Polident]

And genuinely, who the fuck cares? Does anyone after about 5th grade give the slightest shit about the history of the holiday?

The history of kwanzaa is actually pretty interesting. Growing up in a predominantly Christian area with no personal religious upbringing, Christmas was the main event but schools gave attention to Hanukkah for the couple Jew kids and inexplicably Kwanzaa for the black kids despite them being Christian. I never thought anything of it. Later on I actually read about it and some 20-something black nationalist made it up in the 1960s because he saw Christmas as too white and hated Jesus. He was so obsessed with the concept of “seven” he took an African word and added on an extra “a” to make it seven letters. Then you learn his father was a Baptist minister and it all sort of makes sense. After his jail time for whipping black women with electrical cords in a drug fueled haze, he mellowed out about it being some anti-Christian holidays.

What’s your excuse for not making your own holiday?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

"The real history of Kwanzaa" probably wouldn't go over well on Era. 

[Nintex]

"The real history of Kwanzaa" probably wouldn't go over well on Era. 

The real history of Kwanzaa is a very controversial topic that has seen a lot of discussion. It underlines the importance of mutual respect and understanding when having a debate on cultural and social issues. Even so some individuals might not be ready to engage in the conversation. This was totally not written by ChatGPT.

[benji]

The only people getting mad and upset about Thanksgiving as a concept were terminally online white liberals and two larping black socialists.

FACT CHECK: Nepenthe is spiritually white.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

"The real history of Kwanzaa" probably wouldn't go over well on Era. 

The real history of Kwanzaa is a very controversial topic that has seen a lot of discussion. It underlines the importance of mutual respect and understanding when having a debate on cultural and social issues. Even so some individuals might not be ready to engage in the conversation. This was totally not written by ChatGPT.

Evidently many on era are clearly not ready for this conversation.

[garamonde]

I get the irony of saying this here, of all places, but it's crazy how much they complain and whine about the mildest things. Ain't just Planet Smasher, he's the GOAT, but it's a never ending hivemind of pure negativity. 

Although calling those weirdos a bunch of negative Nancys would probably have them whining about misgendering or some stupid shit. 

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/page-3#post-132253020

It's interesting, I work for a Nation Tribe, and they very much still treat Thanksgiving as a holiday to be celebrated. They are proud of their heritage and history, doing what they can to preserve the culture as much as possible, however, Thanksgiving is still seen as a time to celebrate and give thanks to a lot of them. I also believe that it's been something that is deeply rooted in our culture, so I'm not sure if they would ever change anything at this point. A lot of the people now that are Tribe members are of mixed descent, so I imagine the ideas and beliefs have become intertwined, changed, or disregarded as people in the area and the state have become more diverse. That's not to say all of the Natives of the Tribe I work for feel that way, but just talking to people about it, many of the members just talk about the food they are going to eat and what their plans are for the day, rarely, if ever, talking about the awful history that comes with this particular holiday.

shhhhh..the non-indigenous are debating it for us.

Indigenous people aren't a monolith.

What a fucking cunt Clicky is there, beyond parody. Imagine if someone said the same thing to them in one of the trans topics. They'd be nuked from the forum.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Trans people rank higher than indigenous folk, transphobe.

[Potato]

Notice how the two people closest to Native American people in that entire thread said that Thanksgiving was completely fine:

as someone with Indigenous and European Spanish ancestry (because... yeah), this whole thread is fucking embarrassing. smh.
Eat some protein and some pie, tell your friends and family you love them. Wish them a Happy Thanksgiving... or don't. Don't be weird about it.

It's interesting, I work for a Nation Tribe, and they very much still treat Thanksgiving as a holiday to be celebrated. They are proud of their heritage and history, doing what they can to preserve the culture as much as possible, however, Thanksgiving is still seen as a time to celebrate and give thanks to a lot of them. I also believe that it's been something that is deeply rooted in our culture, so I'm not sure if they would ever change anything at this point. A lot of the people now that are Tribe members are of mixed descent, so I imagine the ideas and beliefs have become intertwined, changed, or disregarded as people in the area and the state have become more diverse. That's not to say all of the Natives of the Tribe I work for feel that way, but just talking to people about it, many of the members just talk about the food they are going to eat and what their plans are for the day, rarely, if ever, talking about the awful history that comes with this particular holiday.

They were completely ignored. The only people getting mad and upset about Thanksgiving as a concept were terminally online white liberals and two larping black socialists.

Replace "Thanksgiving" with any other Resetera controversy and this sentence is still 100% accurate.

[benji]

What a fucking cunt Clicky is there, beyond parody. Imagine if someone said the same thing to them in one of the trans topics. They'd be nuked from the forum.

Yikes, oof, going to really need you to not dismiss concerns about transphobia.

[DavidCroquet]

Notice how the two people closest to Native American people in that entire thread said that Thanksgiving was completely fine:

as someone with Indigenous and European Spanish ancestry (because... yeah), this whole thread is fucking embarrassing. smh.
Eat some protein and some pie, tell your friends and family you love them. Wish them a Happy Thanksgiving... or don't. Don't be weird about it.

It's interesting, I work for a Nation Tribe, and they very much still treat Thanksgiving as a holiday to be celebrated. They are proud of their heritage and history, doing what they can to preserve the culture as much as possible, however, Thanksgiving is still seen as a time to celebrate and give thanks to a lot of them. I also believe that it's been something that is deeply rooted in our culture, so I'm not sure if they would ever change anything at this point. A lot of the people now that are Tribe members are of mixed descent, so I imagine the ideas and beliefs have become intertwined, changed, or disregarded as people in the area and the state have become more diverse. That's not to say all of the Natives of the Tribe I work for feel that way, but just talking to people about it, many of the members just talk about the food they are going to eat and what their plans are for the day, rarely, if ever, talking about the awful history that comes with this particular holiday.

They were completely ignored. The only people getting mad and upset about Thanksgiving as a concept were terminally online white liberals and two larping black socialists.

Era has extended their disdain of the Jews to all members of any tribe.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Trans people rank higher than indigenous folk, transphobe.

I believe it's actually transphobic to state that they weren't always here in America

[DocWager]

Man, that Thanksgiving thread is a perfect example on how much the forum is controlled by bad faith arguments. This all started with Gaf, and it’s all gotten worse since. Now they’re like “Oh these comments from earlier… Oof”. Shut the fuck up already. You ain’t above this shit. You anti-social dweeb who doesn’t have the courage to get off your ass to visit family. “Oh but my family is racist”. Really? Are they all? I thought you were a commie who believes in togetherness. But you seem to not understand what the definition of communism is. Communism to you is being negative towards anything from your homeland. Acting like Europe is some over the rainbow beauty that is far out of reach. How about you go to your dad, and mom’s fridge like you do every year. Pull out the cranberries.

What?

The mash potatoes.

What? 

Turkey.

What?

The stuffing!

What?

The homemade sweet potato pie.

What?

Then wash it down with an ice cold beer.

What?

Two beers!

What?

Three!

What?

Let’s make it the whoooooooooole six pack!

[Eric Cartman]

What’s your excuse for not making your own holiday?

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/page-6#post-132264624

This post is telling me you misinterpreted the "this is why we lose elections" posts. They weren't referencing indigenous issues, colonialism, or even Thanksgiving. They were making a broader point about the mentality behind this stuff. I think you took it too literally. Intent isn't always easy to decipher on the internet but I'm like 95% sure that s what they was referring to… general, nonspecific commentary on, the moral grandstanding and shaming the left can be guilty of. Nothing to do with the actual topic of the thread, which I guess is a problem of its own.

Racist white people are why we lose elections. You can even see it happening in this thread. You can even see it happening in this logic. People that keep saying this are pretty much admitting that marginalized folk pointing out history l, which is literally all this thread did, is "moral grand standing," but that simple action is taken by lots of white people as, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO OR IMMA BE A BIGOT!

Supposed "liberal" White people will come on the internet and talk about why we lose elections but won't tell their uncle Jim and aunt Pam they're bad people for being racist.

Also, lol @ you being so patronizing to a Black woman. Check yourself. She's smart and knows what she read

Patronizing? Are you fr? Nobody allowed to point out somebody might've misinterpreted shit without being labeled like that? You're outta pocket, man.

My point was that I think folks in this thread reading those posts as "blaming indigenous people for losing elections" are missing the intent. They were broader commentary on the mentality behind this stuff, not literally about indigenous people and Thanksgiving, That's how I interpreted them at least. They were def a thread derail

RIP

[killamajig]

Skillzilla and digitalop seem to always pop up right before nepnep comes barreling through. Probably coordinating in their discords.

I think the BCT has moved on from trying to get Slayven to sort things. Neppy is the new sheriff in town and she gonna sort everything and everyone.

This is my theory how the offsite discords work.....

Skillz and Digital are the troops that get the enemy to fire on them so the heavy artillery (Nep) can pinpot the targets and destroy (ban) them. The Trans Mafia works the same way. They have their recon element (Clicky, Malds) to pin down the targets while the heavy stuff (deimosmasque, AliceAmber, plagerize) can plan for the counter attack to wipeout the unsuspecting members that thought it was just a small skirmish.

[Nintex]

Remember play it tactical

[cRumB]

Imagine getting triggered by this shit lol  
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jd-vance-owns-the-libz-by-photoshopping-himself-to-be-trumps-wife.1048044/

[DavidCroquet]

Imagine getting triggered by this shit lol  
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jd-vance-owns-the-libz-by-photoshopping-himself-to-be-trumps-wife.1048044/

“these people are so weird!”

- Tim Walz, 1964 - 2024. RIP 🪦

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-talk-about-the-nazi-past-of-smogon-competitive-pokémon-fan-site-cecilly.1048092/

TL;DR:

* Smogon, the competitive Pokémon fan community as it began in 2004 was very, very different to its modern self.
* It's name and mascot is an artifact of a gas chamber joke and both a trolling device for, and I quote, "edgy teenagers".
* At its inception it was split into 2 main forums: a Pokémon Strategy General forum; and a "Smogon's Great Nazi Empire" one. The latter forum was the one with the most amount of activity.
* While unconfirmed, it's believed some of its early members were genuine pro-Nazis.
* Saying the current Smogon community is a whole different beast now is a massive understatement, to the point it's origins being uncovered back in last year came up as a massive shock to many.
* Cecilly thinks people quickly moving on from the previous revelation is worrying as it underplays just how invasive, toxic, and dangerous Nazi imaginery can be, more so given that the site started, by some of its early members' admissions, as a way for edgy tennagers (the target demography most susceptible to propaganda) to mock Nazism.
* Why didn't Smogon succumb to its roots? Simple: it became diverse and accepting of others while being loud about it. And that goes against everything fascism stands for.

So the problem… already sort itself out? 

She wants everyone there to be perpetually depressed and being sorry for shit they didn’t know about until a year ago?

It is a coincidence that the person that made video is a TransFemale looking for attention?

[Boredfrom]

Imagine getting triggered by this shit lol  
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jd-vance-owns-the-libz-by-photoshopping-himself-to-be-trumps-wife.1048044/

Honestly, JD Vance is a weirdo sell out.

[killamajig]

Imagine getting triggered by this shit lol  
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jd-vance-owns-the-libz-by-photoshopping-himself-to-be-trumps-wife.1048044/

Era doesn't get that if your're on the right you can look at that and think JD has a sense of humor. They think everyone sees the world as they do.

Now they are getting their jollies making fun of this meal.

"That cornbread looks dry! AHAHAHAHA!!!" we have fun.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-talk-about-the-nazi-past-of-smogon-competitive-pok%C3%A9mon-fan-site-cecilly.1048092/#post-132266538

There also used to be a hidden forum that would post nudes of underaged female users.

hi chaos!

How do I know? Was I participating in the forum when it was obviously a hive of Nazi activity? Why did I wait until now to share this information? 

Don't ask Black people that question 💅

[Boredfrom]

He has a sense of humor that he sold himself out to be Trump’s bitch.  

My mother was watching Hillbilly Elegy a month ago and she liked it (her tastes, you know) but when I told her that JD Vance is Trump’s VP she was like “WTF!?”.

[Jansen]

That Thanksgiving plate does deserve to be made fun of. Looks like some shit you'd get from meals on wheels

[Boredfrom]

Smogon is filled with a history of predators (in notable leadership positions) targeting children on both the forums and Pokemon showdown. They had to create "User Safety" volunteer positions just to help combat this stuff. I've been involved with the forum since 2007 so I've seen it all.

This is what people should be worried about.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-talk-about-the-nazi-past-of-smogon-competitive-pok%C3%A9mon-fan-site-cecilly.1048092/#post-132266538

There also used to be a hidden forum that would post nudes of underaged female users.

hi chaos!

How do I know? Was I participating in the forum when it was obviously a hive of Nazi activity? Why did I wait until now to share this information? 

Don't ask Black people that question 💅

Being fair, this has been an open secret if you follow lolcow/troll forums. Hell, I think someone at Era made a thread about it.

[Eric Cartman]

TL;DR:

* Smogon, the competitive Pokémon fan community as it began in 2004 was very, very different to its modern self.
* It's name and mascot is an artifact of a gas chamber joke and both a trolling device for, and I quote, "edgy teenagers".
* At its inception it was split into 2 main forums: a Pokémon Strategy General forum; and a "Smogon's Great Nazi Empire" one. The latter forum was the one with the most amount of activity.
* While unconfirmed, it's believed some of its early members were genuine pro-Nazis.
* Saying the current Smogon community is a whole different beast now is a massive understatement, to the point it's origins being uncovered back in last year came up as a massive shock to many.
* Cecilly thinks people quickly moving on from the previous revelation is worrying as it underplays just how invasive, toxic, and dangerous Nazi imaginery can be, more so given that the site started, by some of its early members' admissions, as a way for edgy tennagers (the target demography most susceptible to propaganda) to mock Nazism.
* Why didn't Smogon succumb to its roots? Simple: it became diverse and accepting of others while being loud about it. And that goes against everything fascism stands for.

Its dangerous to... mock nazism?