Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[HaughtyFrank]

I'll take a life sized Al Bundy from Married with Children.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-2#post-134111160

User banned (1 week): attacking other posters

whew this thread took like 5 minutes to get heated. looks like we gotta go back to elementary school for learning how to talk to other people

• hating the director is fine (we all probably should)
  
• not supporting the game is fine (totally reasonable to boycott)
  
• somehow shifting blame to people that work at the studio is lame; the economy is way too brutal and games industry is way too cutthroat to expect people to just "find a new job"
  • somehow shifting blame to people that work at the studio is lame; the economy is way too brutal and games industry is way too cutthroat to expect people to just "find a new job"
    

• getting super hostile with someone for having interest in the game is probably not a great use of energy. 99% of Era is left-leaning politically, so save it for the actual chuds and pseudo-nazis
  • a measured "hey, maybe reconsider this game" is totally reasonable though

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No. They are actively supporting the man and even if they can;t find another job in the games industry, they can find one elsewhere.
4. For starters, no, Era is not left leaning. The other is that in this climate if you knowingly and willingly support shitty people and companies then you deserve all the shit that comes your way (After said initial, hey, reconsider this game convo).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-3#post-134114175

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Yeah fuck it, its not as if the entire video game industry is imploding with thousands of people losing their jobs already - lets just hope a few hundred more get cut all because 1 public prick is involved, nothing to do with the actual quality/merit of the game itself!

Get real.

What an absolutely arrogant, narrow-minded thing to say. Did you say this about all the other devs who have lost their jobs the last two years? How on earth can you say every single person in a studio is complicit? We're talking about programmers, sound design, HR, finance - several area's who have nothing to do with the design of the game - they are complicit and therefore deserve to lose their jobs? Jesus christ.

Spare me the pearl clutching. We in the end responsible for who and what we work for. If you are happy with this being in the project you work on from previews above:

In particular, it settles happily into the concept of a medieval society in which women are ornaments, bystanders, forgiving confidants, and objects of lust. The first time you see a woman in Deliverance 2's world, beyond the intro cinematics, it's as part of an Ovidian stealth tutorial where you and Hans sneak up on some bathers. The first female character you have an actual conversation with is a healer; the second is the healer's daughter, who promptly launches into the role of Henry's bedside therapist.

I don't think this is all there is to Deliverance 2's depictions of women - I've had some relatively non-lecherous chats with at least three, one of them admittedly a brothel owner - but the framework we are working with here is very much Boys Will Be Boys and Oh You (Hands On Hips). I'm interested to discover whether this will change. Deliverance 2's opening is dominated by the chemistry between Henry and Sir Hans, with Sir Hans serving as the unapologetic piece of shit who both enables Henry's boorishness and makes you feel better because you're not that bad. But there are traces of something more engaging there.

You are complicit. Just like how people who work for oil companies are complicit in the ruining of this planet. You can not absolve yourself from this responsibility. I have switched jobs and lost jobs just over ethical shit like this in my lifetime. And I have turned down defense project jobs involved in developing weapons for the US government for the exact same reason. These people live in the European Union where they can work in whatever industry they want. So yes finding a new job is a solid argument.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-5#post-134139969

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Btw, watched the video in the OP and, just as the boredom from all the historically accurate mayonnaise on display set in the stealth tutorial involved attempting to and successfully spying on busty women with very wet clothes on while they're doing laundry because "boys will be boys amirite, sexual harassment is fun actually"

Dude even essentially said

"Bro, listen....FEMALES!" before doing so, also this is followed by attempted SA.

yea....i'm good.

Yeah, but it's "historically accurate", and the "game looks so good!".

"Game looks so good I don't care if I support a Nazi and those who are still willingly working for him even though he has been very open about where he stands for the last six years. I NEED MAH GAME!"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-6#post-134145573

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Calm down lol its just a video game, if you dont want to support it, theres no need to come to the thread and blast people that just want to play a good crpg

Agreed. These people need to calm their tits, including the mods who banned conhorlio

People complaining about this game are just as bad as people complaining about "woke" games elsewhere.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-6#post-134148666

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If 9 people sit down at a table with 1 Nazi without protest, there are 10 Nazis at the table.

[BIONIC]

I'll take a life sized Al Bundy from Married with Children.

Finally a man of refined taste on this dumpster site.

[railGUN]

Mr Beast helps 2000 people walk again and Neps response:

This is why America will never be free.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wccftech-ci-games-will-not-integrate-dei-elements-in-their-games-to-maximizing-player-enjoyment-publisher-of-lords-of-the-fallen.1079157/page-5#post-134124930

User banned (permanent): troll account

what exactly is every-man's perception of dei? because none of this makes sense at face value, how would dei dimish someones enjoyment of a thing

To prioritize minorities, that are often not minorities, at the expense of another group to fix a perceived past wrong that the people you are now discriminating against to make this happen, where never involved with but being punished for.

DEI from hiring perspectives is absolutely not inclusive and the ideology as a whole is not either, rather it utilizes a motte-and-bailey fallacy, falling back on "you don't like [insert category] here" as an argument whenever is is targeted (which is in this very thread with people saying thing akin to you just don't want black/gay people in games etc, which is not what is being said), but then DEI drives hiring of particularly kinds of people based on categories, which is what it is also designed to address the problem of happening in the past (it replicates the problem it says it wants to solve). It seems most people have realized that it represents an ideology that is far more nefarious then that though and is actively racist and sexist in how it has been used.

It is an ideology that involves rather extreme levels of prejudice and discrimination against certain groups based on what they want and don't want based on characteristics like sex and race that have no bearing for example in hiring on the work to be done.

All racists have always had there justifications and reasons that they felt where sound arguments. But ultimately if you hire someone, give someone preferential treatment to what you otherwise would have because of there race or gender, then you are a racist and polite society should shun you. Which is what is happening to DEI.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wccftech-ci-games-will-not-integrate-dei-elements-in-their-games-to-maximizing-player-enjoyment-publisher-of-lords-of-the-fallen.1079157/page-7#post-134140818

User banned (permanent): Troll account

Good, just make good games now

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-square-enixs-magnum-opus.1076472/page-6#post-134066571

User Banned (1 Month): Homophobic Slur; Hostility

Lmao FF7 fanboyism and nostalgia is something else, jesus christ.

Fag

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-square-enixs-magnum-opus.1076472/page-6#post-134066571

User Banned (1 Month): Homophobic Slur; Hostility

Lmao FF7 fanboyism and nostalgia is something else, jesus christ.

Fag

Just a month for that

Maybe ree really is a chud website

[Averon]

It really is amazing how many chances ERA mods give to users they deem as racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic, etc...

Like, is a month ban really gonna make a racist less racist when they inevitably come back to ERA? Will ArkhamFantasy be less homophobic when he returns?

But saying you don't like DEI gets you an instant perma ban, not question

[Lonewulfeus]

1736627671[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-square-enixs-magnum-opus.1076472/page-6#post-134066571

User Banned (1 Month): Homophobic Slur; Hostility

Lmao FF7 fanboyism and nostalgia is something else, jesus christ.

Fag

I love when the ban message is longer than the post 

[Boredfrom]

To prioritize minorities, that are often not minorities, at the expense of another group to fix a perceived past wrong that the people you are now discriminating against to make this happen, where never involved with but being punished for.

DEI from hiring perspectives is absolutely not inclusive and the ideology as a whole is not either, rather it utilizes a motte-and-bailey fallacy, falling back on "you don't like [insert category] here" as an argument whenever is is targeted (which is in this very thread with people saying thing akin to you just don't want black/gay people in games etc, which is not what is being said), but then DEI drives hiring of particularly kinds of people based on categories, which is what it is also designed to address the problem of happening in the past (it replicates the problem it says it wants to solve). It seems most people have realized that it represents an ideology that is far more nefarious then that though and is actively racist and sexist in how it has been used.

It is an ideology that involves rather extreme levels of prejudice and discrimination against certain groups based on what they want and don't want based on characteristics like sex and race that have no bearing for example in hiring on the work to be done.

All racists have always had there justifications and reasons that they felt where sound arguments. But ultimately if you hire someone, give someone preferential treatment to what you otherwise would have because of there race or gender, then you are a racist and polite society should shun you. Which is what is happening to DEI.

(Better expressed than most people have done in the bore, to be honest  )

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-r-word%E2%80%99s-comeback-is-a-grim-sign-of-our-political-moment-miles-klee-rolling-stone.1077369/page-4#post-134041113

User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory Commentary; Inappropriate Point of Comparison; Dismissing Concerns of Ableism

Again, people think their bubbles are representative of the population. At most, people may have stopped using it around others that they knew would push back or call them out.

As a non-american I've always found funny how people latched so much on this word against all other euphemisms that mean the same thing and got incorporated into the day-to-day lexicon. Also it seems to be a tinge of oppression olympics from non-black people trying to have an equivalent of the n-word so black people could also be policed on their speech.

The euphemism treadmill will continue and this word will become accepted while a new one will take its place.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-fall-of-the-young-turks-kasparians-pivot-to-the-right-and-cenk-declaring-war-on-competing-leftist-outlets.1058934/page-5#post-133224093

User Banned (permanent): Concern Trolling over a Series of Posts; Account in Junior Phase

Excuse me, aren't you the one that's *checks notes* - that's accusing people of refusing to engage in the "complexities of the region" while automatically dismissing the historical relevance of one of the regions actors as irrelevant?

All I said was I don't think labelling Hezbollah and the Houthis as 'resistance organizations' in the current year while at the same time using that to hand wave criticism and concerns of people's support for them as being essentially western pearl clutching. This thread is about Ana's right wing turn and I've already apologized for derailing, however I am not going to let someone follow me and call me anti Palestinian without a response.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wccftech-ci-games-will-not-integrate-dei-elements-in-their-games-to-maximizing-player-enjoyment-publisher-of-lords-of-the-fallen.1079157/page-3#post-134103996

We need to start our own bullshit campaigns. Create some Steam "Anti-DEI Devs" Curator groups. Start spamming every company that "goes anti-DEI" with attacks against them. Call every anti-DEI chud a groomer (every accusation is a confession from them, afterall). Follow the same playbook, throw it back in their stupid faces.

[benji]

While not related to this, the title did remind me about me worry how many trans, genderfluid and Non-Binary people etc have had their identities erased post death from archaeologists and Historians declaring "MUST BE A MAN!", or "MUST BE A WOMAN!" Like throughout history we have many civilizations, groups and people who had concepts of a third gender or trans identities, and that's not even getting to the many people who lived in fear of being who they really were.

If they've been erased then how do you know they existed? And how did they have these identities before they were invented in the 1980's? And you know all those civilizations were misogynistic ones that had not just rigid gender roles but mandatory gender classes right? Why do you want to bring back either? This is important because these contradict, if not being a man means you're a "third gender" (and this was the only way it worked, women couldn't move up in status) this doesn't mean you can become a woman. And non-binary/genderfluid is a rejection of trans, and also the normal state of everyone.

request denied

(if you have the ability to enable a tag like this, don't you also have the ability to stop it from being linked?? like "the account owner has requested that this video only be watched on youtube?" is bsky retard?)

This is not Caraballo's setting it is the person they were quoting. This is a quote tweet, but the person being quoted has it set so their tweet is not shown unless you are logged in and/or you follow them, so embeds do not display it. The message needs to be rewritten because I see all kinds of people interpreting it the same way.

We were only supposed to be using this fungible value paper bullshit because carrying around goats or remembering that we owed our neighbors a bushel of wheat because they painted our side of the fence, was impractical. For money to also be a way of assessing whether or not any one of us is or is not culpable for the evil they do, or a means for some of the shittiest people the world has ever seen, to broadcast and leverage power over the rest of us, means we've REALLY lost the plot here as a species.

And now we don't even carry even that shitty, portable little representation of value anymore, money is mostly this conceptual transfer of electrons in the digital space. God may or may not exist, but the unbridled worship of this make-believe electron capturing process absolutely does exist. So we can't even get ethics and religion right anymore, as a species, either.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-much-would-we-need-to-shave-off-the-wealth-of-the-billionaires.1079517/post-134142765

This is projection, the same kind of projection that most socialists have had throughout history and why they've always targeted both abolishing money and wealth as concepts. You're reifying something into a totem, ascribing it massive power and then accusing everyone else of believing what you do about its supernatural power. At no point have you established this worship to exist.

Your point about "just electrons" is even more stupid, money represents bookkeeping, which is what those electrons do. It's a store of information, not actual value. Its value exists only because other people will accept it. It's merely a medium of exchange so you can trade things like labor without having to actually labor for each individual. Gift economies and socialized economies don't eliminate this, the same process exists just without the simple bookkeeping method. A theoretical Elon could still accrue power by accumulating required reciprocal gifts, personal favors or political clout.

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You are complicit. Just like how people who work for oil companies are complicit in the ruining of this planet. You can not absolve yourself from this responsibility. I have switched jobs and lost jobs just over ethical shit like this in my lifetime. And I have turned down defense project jobs involved in developing weapons for the US government for the exact same reason. These people live in the European Union where they can work in whatever industry they want. So yes finding a new job is a solid argument.

Love Americans who think the EU is some kind of fantasy land where you can just switch industries on a whim despite no experience in the new one let alone necessary skills or knowledge. Just dump your career and start from scratch, what do you care you've got slightly more universal healthcare and maybe slightly more welfare benefits to take the income and status hit in stride!

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-r-word%E2%80%99s-comeback-is-a-grim-sign-of-our-political-moment-miles-klee-rolling-stone.1077369/page-4#post-134041113

User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory Commentary; Inappropriate Point of Comparison; Dismissing Concerns of Ableism

Again, people think their bubbles are representative of the population. At most, people may have stopped using it around others that they knew would push back or call them out.

As a non-american I've always found funny how people latched so much on this word against all other euphemisms that mean the same thing and got incorporated into the day-to-day lexicon. Also it seems to be a tinge of oppression olympics from non-black people trying to have an equivalent of the n-word so black people could also be policed on their speech.

The euphemism treadmill will continue and this word will become accepted while a new one will take its place.

Inflammatory Commentary = Can't argue against your point, so we banned you to shut you up.

Inappropriate Point of Comparison = Your point/comparison has merit, but we hate it for arbitrary reasons, so that's a ban for you.

Dismissing Concerns of Ableism = You're going against the grain/"approved" opinion in this thread and it annoys us. That's a banning.

[Boredfrom]

So just as I suspected: she wasn't leaving Friday. I haven't heard or seen any evidence of anyone moving, which explains why she wanted to give me her phone number (despite the geniuses in this thread who were so adamant about me waiting "just one more day"). We were arguing when she told me she was moving but refused to say when.

She's still upstairs doing her infamous death walk. Like….right now. It's a bit more muffled and I was actually able to kinda sleep through it but she's still there.

He is such a bastard. The living proof that toxic masculinity is not limited to heterosexuals.

[Boredfrom]

As a non-american I've always found funny how people latched so much on this word against all other euphemisms that mean the same thing and got incorporated into the day-to-day lexicon. Also it seems to be a tinge of oppression olympics from non-black people trying to have an equivalent of the n-word so black people could also be policed on their speech.

[benji]

Even a *tiny* fraction of a billionaire's wealth could be repurposed in ways that would end needless suffering and promote the health and well-being of humanity as a whole, while having no impact whatsoever on the individual billionaire's quality of life or the scope of their influence. That's why we view that much aggregation of wealth in one person, as inherently unethical.

We were only supposed to be using this fungible value paper bullshit because carrying around goats or remembering that we owed our neighbors a bushel of wheat because they painted our side of the fence, was impractical. For money to also be a way of assessing whether or not any one of us is or is not culpable for the evil they do, or a means for some of the shittiest people the world has ever seen, to broadcast and leverage power over the rest of us, means we've REALLY lost the plot here as a species.

And now we don't even carry even that shitty, portable little representation of value anymore, money is mostly this conceptual transfer of electrons in the digital space. God may or may not exist, but the unbridled worship of this make-believe electron capturing process absolutely does exist. So we can't even get ethics and religion right anymore, as a species, either.

I'm ready to go back to goats and fence painting, IMHO.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-much-would-we-need-to-shave-off-the-wealth-of-the-billionaires.1079517/post-134142765

Actually, going back to this. This guy did a whole rant about these "make-believe electrons" in a thread where people are demanding others be charged by cops actual immediate amounts of money for having too many of these make-believe electrons hypothetically in a ledger somewhere.

This is a major problem for that thread and forum in general, they believe wealth is just numbers in a single bank account like they have and there's actually funds to be found that can then be kept in the theorized amount forever and keep magically replenishing to supply whatever they want it used for. Zero concept of time or resources. It's just mana that falls from the sky to them.

[benji]

That's the same problem that leads people to believe Elon could personally end world hunger. They think the problem of hunger is just that there's nobody buying the food from the store once.

It's like the old adage: give a man fire and he'll be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

[Straight Edge]

If you stand for nothing, you stand for nothing!

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-square-enixs-magnum-opus.1076472/page-6#post-134066571

User Banned (1 Month): Homophobic Slur; Hostility

Lmao FF7 fanboyism and nostalgia is something else, jesus christ.

Fag

A month, das et?  That would have been a permanented ban any other forums 

[Boredfrom]

I know it's been 7 pages already, but can someone explain to me what DEI means?

It means beautiful Black body when used pejoratively

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wccftech-ci-games-will-not-integrate-dei-elements-in-their-games-to-maximizing-player-enjoyment-publisher-of-lords-of-the-fallen.1079157/page-7#post-134142159

That is an also a little convenient for both left and right wing grifters, don’t you think?

[benji]

I know it's been 7 pages already, but can someone explain to me what DEI means?

It means beautiful Black body when used pejoratively

These people act like the US government didn't produce perfect examples of what it means:

[Taco Bell Tower]

I know it's been 7 pages already, but can someone explain to me what DEI means?

Are they seriously that lazy to google DEI?  

[HaughtyFrank]

She's still upstairs doing her infamous death walk. Like….right now. It's a bit more muffled and I was actually able to kinda sleep through it but she's still there.

At this point he's mad at her existing. Like what are the chances she isn't doing anything crazy and the building has just crap isolation

[benji]

"What's DEI and what's wrong with it?"  

The answer is the same for both: it's the combination of the fallacy of composition and the fallacy of division. It's a cult belief that the cult is good because it must be.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fetterman-went-on-fox-and-both-backed-the-laken-riley-bill-and-agreed-with-trump-about-acquiring-greenland.1077291/page-3#post-134033955

Did this guy's stroke legit make him conservative or something?

From what my SO tells me - possibly yes.

She's an NP and works with stroke (among countless other ailment) victims in an ER/ICU environment.

She says it is common for them to exhibit more aggressive/mean personalities and some often become more "conservative" via newly founded paranoid and xenophobic "beliefs" combined with less inhibition. Could also just be the inhibition part and they are just mask off now too.

Apparently there's tons of studies done on it and is well documented, which is wild to me lol.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fetterman-went-on-fox-and-both-backed-the-laken-riley-bill-and-agreed-with-trump-about-acquiring-greenland.1077291/page-3#post-134059806

Can we stop doing this? Where we excuse this asshole's views as the result of brain damage?

Especially when a lot of it is the boilerplate Democratic platform anyway.

Well I said possibly cause it, not definitively, so he's not being excused.

Also I never provided ANY sort of support for him in my post - he's clearly a moron by default, affected by a stroke, or both.

You're right though, my bad providing post graduate medical information that I was given from my spouse - forgot we just react here, not discuss.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fetterman-went-on-fox-and-both-backed-the-laken-riley-bill-and-agreed-with-trump-about-acquiring-greenland.1077291/page-3#post-134152587

Armchair medical diagnosis is worthless, I'm afraid. Your spouse should know that better than anyone.

It's particularly insulting in this context. But don't worry yourself about it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fetterman-went-on-fox-and-both-backed-the-laken-riley-bill-and-agreed-with-trump-about-acquiring-greenland.1077291/page-4#post-134157402

Lmao wow...everyone just eats each other alive in here eh - cannibalizing allies and sympathizers alike - no wonder GOP nut jobs swept the board.

Glad I'm not American.

[benji]

One of the flaws of DEI belief should be obvious from the fact that its supporters don't see an inherent contradiction in their demands that all minorities be overrepresented in all populations.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Did Fiction lose her job?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cbs-tiktok-says-it-plans-to-shut-down-site-in-the-us-unless-supreme-court-strikes-down-law-forcing-it-to-sell.1078593/page-17#post-134153373

Fuck it.
[Hidden content]

I'm so sorry for what you're going through and about everyone here that has been so hurtful about this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cbs-tiktok-says-it-plans-to-shut-down-site-in-the-us-unless-supreme-court-strikes-down-law-forcing-it-to-sell.1078593/page-18#post-134156208

Thank you for sharing that.

In everything that happens we often forget about human lives that are affected by these decisions. And this is a bad decision!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cbs-tiktok-says-it-plans-to-shut-down-site-in-the-us-unless-supreme-court-strikes-down-law-forcing-it-to-sell.1078593/page-18#post-134155347

My brother-in-law, and millions of others, love it because of the hate speech and disinformation they're allowed to spread and view. He's incredibly upset it might go away. So yeah, I'm gonna cheer right in that fuckers face.

So you enable right wing and hate speech because it's family, and just gloat as he move onto another platform and believe you are a great ally because you...gloat in his face

No wonder Trump won the election in the USA

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cbs-tiktok-says-it-plans-to-shut-down-site-in-the-us-unless-supreme-court-strikes-down-law-forcing-it-to-sell.1078593/page-18#post-134155734

So very true at times almost feels like it would be better for one's own blood pressure to just start ignoring the majority of what these people are saying. Only thing it does is showing that they are missing the forest for the damn trees. And they don't even care when people try to point things out to them.

This is true, too. Honestly, I just need to start using my ignore list again.

I would have been heated already if it wasn't for TikTok being helpful for my family.

Makes this place not feel safe anymore.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/apple-opposes-investor-calls-to-end-its-dei-efforts-‘we-strive-to-create-a-culture-of-belonging’.1079655/

Ohhhhhhhh, so THATs why they're in a lawsuit for illegally wiretapping most of their userbase.
They just want everyone to belong.

This ad is so ironic 40 years later