Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cbs-tiktok-says-it-plans-to-shut-down-site-in-the-us-unless-supreme-court-strikes-down-law-forcing-it-to-sell.1078593/page-38#post-134544573

User banned (1 month): Sinophobic. Account in junior phase.

I don't get this crusade for saving tik tok. It's literally CCP spyware.

[benji]

Yeah and that happened before the huge network effect made Instagram and Twitter unkillable. Just look at what X is today, and how its still very much alive.

Again, they couldve just regulated it. A ban is a move to kill any non-US owned social media.

How could they have "regulated" TikTok in a way that ensures it's not sending data to its parent company?

Why haven't they banned any European owned social media? Is it because corporations from those countries will actually follow reciprocal laws?

[Pwnz]

Did the voters "punishing" and protest voting Biden and Harris over Gaza really think Trump would have a better stance on this and do better ?

Sheesh

No. The point was that abetting genocide was a step too far for some voters.

Democrats could've easily remedied this conundrum by not abetting genocide.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-not-confident-in-gaza-ceasefire-expected-to-lift-us-suspension-of-2000-lb-bombs-to-israel-and-reverse-sanctions-on-west-bank-settlers.1087860/page-2#post-134657199

Yes, the POTUS can just take the wheel of an autonomous nation and fix everything. What a delusional person.

[Nintex]

Yeah and that happened before the huge network effect made Instagram and Twitter unkillable. Just look at what X is today, and how its still very much alive.

Again, they couldve just regulated it. A ban is a move to kill any non-US owned social media.

How could they have "regulated" TikTok in a way that ensures it's not sending data to its parent company?

Why haven't they banned any European owned social media? Is it because corporations from those countries will actually follow reciprocal laws?

The list of European owned social media:

[Propagandhim]

Lol what stupid circular logic. "Sex determines the reproductive cells you make, the reproductive cells you make determine your sex".

Actually, I realized this isn't remotely circular logic at all if you understand what sex actually is and what its biological purpose is.  
They hate the science so much they essentially want to eliminate biology as real and demand that it must be defined from nothing. As if the entire reason we exist in the first place has no role at all in how it's defined.
It's some kind of ancient humans must not be animals religious shit. 

It's completely unidirectional, not circular.  Chromosomal sex is established at fertilization and initiates a sex differentiation path in development.  The developmental pathways organize the body toward producing either male gametes or female gametes.   This organization path occurs whether or not an individual actually produces gametes - which is why you dont just say a guy who clearly has undergone the male development path is not a guy if he can't produce sperm (and same for women who are barren), and they know this.  Everyone knows this.  The logic goes completely in one direction.

[benji]

The list of European owned social media:

There's plenty, I didn't say European owned social media with a global presence and billions of users. The point is that if the United States has an issue with some platform they can call up the Germans or whoever else and there's a strong likelihood that they have a law on the books against whatever and will enforce it. This is not the case with China who as Ryan Davis said don't care.

This is the complaint about TikTok. I think the complaint is stupid because the US data is worthless, but the boomers in Congress are convinced this shit is serious important top secret information and the CCP will use it for nefarious ends. You can't call up the CCP and ask them to stop because they'll just laugh. The "criminal" is the same entity as the police.

[Nintex]

The list of European owned social media:

There's plenty, I didn't say European owned social media with a global presence and billions of users. The point is that if the United States has an issue with some platform they can call up the Germans or whoever else and there's a strong likelihood that they have a law on the books against whatever and will enforce it. This is not the case with China who as Ryan Davis said don't care.

This is the complaint about TikTok. I think the complaint is stupid because the US data is worthless, but the boomers in Congress are convinced this shit is serious important top secret information and the CCP will use it for nefarious ends. You can't call up the CCP and ask them to stop because they'll just laugh. The "criminal" is the same entity as the police.

Name a German social media network, I'll wait. 

[benji]

Also note that the EU has the same problem with the US. They can't call up the US and get EU laws against hate speech or misinformation enforced against Twitter or whoever because the US government doesn't have this power. But the EU is smart enough to know that blocking everything US would be stupid especially because the US will actually enforce the criminal laws it does have.

[benji]

Name a German social media network, I'll wait. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:German_social_networking_websites

You're very ignorant if you think countries that don't speak English don't have non-English social media. Even the UK and Canada and Australia have their own but Facebook in particular has gone to great lengths to conquer these regions.

[Propagandhim]

The list of European owned social media:

There's plenty, I didn't say European owned social media with a global presence and billions of users. The point is that if the United States has an issue with some platform they can call up the Germans or whoever else and there's a strong likelihood that they have a law on the books against whatever and will enforce it. This is not the case with China who as Ryan Davis said don't care.
This is the complaint about TikTok. I think the complaint is stupid because the US data is worthless, but the boomers in Congress are convinced this shit is serious important top secret information and the CCP will use it for nefarious ends. You can't call up the CCP and ask them to stop because they'll just laugh. The "criminal" is the same entity as the police.

Name a German social media network, I'll wait.  

Xing

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/space-x-to-space-reich-elon-musk%E2%80%99s-salute-on-tv-gone-wrong-right.1087218/page-5#post-134618103

Canada also has nuclear weapons.

[DavidCroquet]

Did the voters "punishing" and protest voting Biden and Harris over Gaza really think Trump would have a better stance on this and do better ?

Sheesh

No. The point was that abetting genocide was a step too far for some voters.

Democrats could've easily remedied this conundrum by not abetting genocide.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-not-confident-in-gaza-ceasefire-expected-to-lift-us-suspension-of-2000-lb-bombs-to-israel-and-reverse-sanctions-on-west-bank-settlers.1087860/page-2#post-134657199

Yes, the POTUS can just take the wheel of an autonomous nation and fix everything. What a delusional person.

Well Trump did it! Sorta...actually jury is still out on that one...but there was a press release and some aid trucks! What'd biden do besides build a pier lol (why is the pier funny again?)

Anyway none of this discussion directly solves the problem of capitalism.

[benji]

I doubt there's a less likely scenario than Canada nuking the country it shares the world's longest border with and that nearly all of its population except Alberta lives just across from.

[nachobro]

The list of European owned social media:

OnlyFans

[Pwnz]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-not-confident-in-gaza-ceasefire-expected-to-lift-us-suspension-of-2000-lb-bombs-to-israel-and-reverse-sanctions-on-west-bank-settlers.1087860/page-2#post-134657199

Yes, the POTUS can just take the wheel of an autonomous nation and fix everything. What a delusional person.

Well Trump did it! Sorta...actually jury is still out on that one...but there was a press release and some aid trucks! What'd biden do besides build a pier lol (why is the pier funny again?)

Anyway none of this discussion directly solves the problem of capitalism.

Yeah they have the attention span of gnats.

All tripping over themselves about every EO.

Like yes my politics don't align with the EOs but this isn't the first rodeo. Trump will make a bunch of dubious EOs and like 20% of really shitty ones will stick after months of court battles.

Long term in not particularly worried. House margins too small. We might get corporate tax cuts which are whatever add it to the pile of treasury notes, that'll fix prices.

But otherwise it's just political theater with some people getting impacted but rarely is it people on that forum.

[DavidCroquet]

The list of European owned social media:

There's plenty, I didn't say European owned social media with a global presence and billions of users. The point is that if the United States has an issue with some platform they can call up the Germans or whoever else and there's a strong likelihood that they have a law on the books against whatever and will enforce it. This is not the case with China who as Ryan Davis said don't care.

This is the complaint about TikTok. I think the complaint is stupid because the US data is worthless, but the boomers in Congress are convinced this shit is serious important top secret information and the CCP will use it for nefarious ends. You can't call up the CCP and ask them to stop because they'll just laugh. The "criminal" is the same entity as the police.

Is it tho? Even if China thought so beforehand, seeing zoomers (and midlife transbians) make olympic-level leaps of logic to justify everything from not voting to downloading 小红书 for "freedom of speech" has got to have been a wakeup call. 

Also you know Gaetz is on Tiktok with itchy DM fingers. Surely some other actual high-value targets are self-defeatingly active on the app as well. 

Also as a confession of my own stupidity, I just now confirmed that 小红书 is literally Little Red Book. I didn't realize "RedNote" was only the American name. Imagine if the premier social media in the US was called DeclarationOfIndependence, and arguing that you weren't being propagandized by using it.

[benji]

How many Trans Activists went full on tirades against Israel and Biden? Not because they give a shit about the conflict, but because social media brain rot.

Alejandra Caraballo made a bunch of tweets the other day calling Biden the worst President at the worst time, blah blah blah, and had tweets attacking Kamala for not stopping the genocide. Two years ago has a whole shitload of Dark Brandon tweets pretending Biden was going to eliminate all student loans, do Medicare 4 All, arrest Elon, etc. Also has tweets in the last month demanding Biden arrest Elon. And also has all kinds of tweets bitching about how Biden only mentioned trans women once in the State of the Union speech. 

Also has tweets declaring fascism is here and how we'll have to start violent resistance with Trump taking power.

These narcissists don't even listen to themselves.

[Nintex]

Name a German social media network, I'll wait. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:German_social_networking_websites

You're very ignorant if you think countries that don't speak English don't have non-English social media. Even the UK and Canada and Australia have their own but Facebook in particular has gone to great lengths to conquer these regions.

Have you looked up any of those sites? Because like the German economy, they're mostly dead.

getamen.com = domain for sale
Alumniportal Deutschland = NGO portal not really a public social media network
http://www.dol2day.com/ = just look at it 
Foodsharing.de = food sharing app, not a real public social media network
gays.com = dating site, not a public social media network
Hospitality_Club = AirBnB type site, no longer online
independent-collectors.com = curated art platform, not a public social media network
jappy.com = looks dead but still online, so this is first genuine social media network
Mister Wong = no longe online
Nebenan = next door neighbour type app, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt
oneview.com = no longer online
qeep.net = turned into a dating app
qype = merged with Yelp
smeet = closed down
spacehey.com = vintage myspace clone
stayfriends.de = turned into a service to find class pictures
StudiVZ = no longer online
toytown germany = no longer online
virato = no longer online
vive.me = no longer online
wer-kennt-wen.de = no longer online
xing.com = job board, but I suppose LinkedIn is too, so benefit of the doubt?
Yasni = search engine with no interaction

There are no valuable French and German internet companies, zero. 
In The Netherlands we have a few. The Germans and French don't even have something the size of Vinted or Booking.com .

[benji]

Is it tho? Even if China thought so beforehand, seeing zoomers (and midlife transbians) make olympic-level leaps of logic to justify everything from not voting to downloading 小红书 for "freedom of speech" has got to have been a wakeup call.

How does this create value in their data? You're not extrapolating from their bulk data to some value it provides to the CCP. You're skipping all the steps by simply assuming that the bulk data has value rather than is completely worthless like it's been to all social media companies.

If you're saying that we need to seal off the United States from foreigners because foreigners might convince Americans to be stupid then that's a problem that sealing off America will not solve and probably only make worse.

Also you know Gaetz is on Tiktok with itchy DM fingers. Surely some other actual high-value targets are self-defeatingly active on the app as well. 

Again, individual stupidity does not justify the police suppressing everyone to protect idiots from their mistakes that they are going to make anyway.

The CCP gaining influence with stupid politicians is not a problem that TikTok alone creates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Swalwell#Contact_with_suspected_Chinese_spy

Have you looked up any of those sites? Because like the German economy, they're mostly dead.
...
There are no valuable French and German internet companies, zero. 
In The Netherlands we have a few. The Germans and French don't even have something the size of Vinted or Booking.com .

Have you bothered to read any of the posts to understand what the point is that being made rather than the irrelevant non-sequitur you're pursuing as if it was wlw fiction?

[benji]

[Nintex]

I dunno, you said plenty. There aren't plenty.
It's fucking dead jim. European tech is dead, moving out of Europe or threatening to do so (ASML, Mollie, Spotify etc.)

We have regulations for industries that no longer exist. 

Spotify might also move and that's one of the few last big ones
https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/spotify-slams-outdated-bureaucracy-in-sweden-as-it-moves-parts-of-250-jobs-from-its-home-market-after-court-ruling-over-night-shifts/

There was recently a court ruling against night shifts. Anyone who has ever worked with developers knows that many of them prefer to work at night.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tiktok-shuts-down-app-for-all-u-s-users-with-a-popup-message-telling-users-president-trump-is-working-to-reinstate-the-app.1086288/page-10#post-134553963

User banned (1 month): sinophobic rhetoric

Yeah and that happened before the huge network effect made Instagram and Twitter unkillable. Just look at what X is today, and how its still very much alive.

Again, they couldve just regulated it. A ban is a move to kill any non-US owned social media.

It wasn't just "network effects," in Meta's case it was their google-like acquisition spree and targeting of certain elite groups of people. Twitter stayed relevant by in a similar way by getting a bunch of ridiculously famous people to post on it for a long time.

Many social networks have died in the past, they are not unkillable, it was smart consolidation that kept them on top and it'll be regulatory capture that keeps them there.

Calling it the 'CCP dancing app' is so out of touch lol

keep saying out of touch like it'll stick, lol, that app is going to be filled to the brim with pro-Trump shit if/when it comes back under his watch. Are you still gonna want to use it then?

So you seem to be on a bit of an aggro arc, but I wanted to just chime in that it seems that you fundamentally misunderstand the utility of TT's algorithm in helping small marginalized communities find each other in a way no other app does. Hence it's popularity. Over a hundred million people are having their digital 3rd space communities obliterated with this, and if you can't empathize with that, I don't know what to tell you.

I think small marginalized communities deserve a better "digital 3rd space community" than TikTok. I do not think running to a CCP-influenced app like a protection racket will work out well for anyone.

Who signs off on these bans? Literally not a single part of this is sinophobic. It's sad how whipped the userbase at this point is that they can't even stand up to this anymore

[benji]

I dunno, you said plenty. There aren't plenty.
It's fucking dead jim. European tech is dead, moving out of Europe or threatening to do so (ASML, Mollie, Spotify etc.)

We have regulations for industries that no longer exist. 

Spotify might also move and that's one of the few last big ones
https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/spotify-slams-outdated-bureaucracy-in-sweden-as-it-moves-parts-of-250-jobs-from-its-home-market-after-court-ruling-over-night-shifts/

There was recently a court ruling against night shifts. Anyone who has ever worked with developers knows that many of them prefer to work at night.

You got hit with Xing and OnlyFans and you're offering Spotify yourself. CONFIRMING the point you keep avoiding to chase some irrelevancy that is obviously false anyway.

[Nintex]

I dunno, you said plenty. There aren't plenty.
It's fucking dead jim. European tech is dead, moving out of Europe or threatening to do so (ASML, Mollie, Spotify etc.)

We have regulations for industries that no longer exist. 

Spotify might also move and that's one of the few last big ones
https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/spotify-slams-outdated-bureaucracy-in-sweden-as-it-moves-parts-of-250-jobs-from-its-home-market-after-court-ruling-over-night-shifts/

There was recently a court ruling against night shifts. Anyone who has ever worked with developers knows that many of them prefer to work at night.

You got hit with Xing and OnlyFans and you're offering Spotify yourself. CONFIRMING the point you keep avoiding to chase some irrelevancy that is obviously false anyway.

OnlyFans is outside the EU. Spotify is a music streaming service, not a social network.

[benji]

OnlyFans is outside the EU. Spotify is a music streaming service, not a social network.

Holy fucking shit you're dumber than I thought.

[Nintex]

OnlyFans is outside the EU. Spotify is a music streaming service, not a social network.

Holy fucking shit you're dumber than I thought.

1 or 2 is not plenty.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-20-2025-marco-rubio-receives-99-0-senate-confirmation-vote-to-become-secretary-of-state.1087419/#post-134636133

[quote=Darkwing]Rubio was the most qualified (least worst), this isn't worth the fight

I mean when history is written and "he was the most qualified Nazi" is the excuse, it's not gonna hold up well.

Unironically how the US won the space race

[nachobro]

OnlyFans is outside the EU. Spotify is a music streaming service, not a social network.

you said european, not eu you dutch retard

[benji]

1 or 2 is not plenty.

You not only haven't established your case you've disproven your complaint. There are plenty, you're arbitrarily attempting to exclude them by citing irrelevancies that don't matter to the original point. The existence of a single one backs up the original statement and we have not only established the existence of multiple ones but massive global ones that enhance the original point which only needed a single one at all no matter how few users it had.

[Uncle]

The armchair industry experts of Era shocked to learn how concept art is made https://www.resetera.com/threads/ea-accused-of-using-a-gaza-bombing-photo-from-2021-in-the-artwork-for-their-next-battlefield-game.1087281/

I want to say Last of Us or one of the newer Mortal Kombats was in the news cycle for artists using real gore and snuff videos as reference material.

Gross, also makes me wonder if this is AI artwork. I'd hope a human artist wouldn't use a photo of a genocide as reference.

It's probably AI too I'd imagine

This is what I'm thinking.
EA used AI and ran with it. Of course AI will use real images as a reference.

That looks blatant. Curious how it ended up there, whether it was simply copy paste or AI

all the BF6 artwork they showed had AI artifacts.
Eg one had completley messed up iron sights on a M4 other illogical things in it.
This most likely was an AI artwork.

 

if AI was used in the concept art it's not the part that exactly duplicates part of a random real photo

you can get "mona lisa" or "thanos from disney's marvel's avengers" but you're not getting "photo from gaza war taken by cnn photographer on 8-13-2024"

using AI would be less likely to cause situations like this

of course when it is settled leftist law that AI Is Stinky then you can bet no one there would've ever used it to be able to know this