Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-question-man-in-pa-over-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-carrying-suppressor-manifesto-and-fake-id.1055997/page-45#post-132776397

AliceAmber locked thread:

We're no longer interested in hosting this topic. It has long since lost the plot. As every American knows, there are a *lot* of problems with the private healthcare system, and you are not required to care about a CEO's death, nor would we ask you to. But the shooter wasn't a hero either, as more information about him is coming to light. The comparisons for the informant have become wildly inappropriate. We also wouldn't recommend making memes on doing your own version of this, on this forum or elsewhere. Any future threads on this topic will be locked.

This reads like forum trying to avoid any sort of legal issues around users posts. I wonder even if the guy might have a resetera account

This seems quite unusual honestly

That was definitely forced on them by the MOBA overlords. How long until they start paying attention to more of the crazy on there?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tgas-players-voice-final-nominees-black-myth-wukong-wuthering-waves-genshin-impact-elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-and-zenless-zone-zero.1055919/page-8#post-132694464

User banned (1 month): Sinophobic rhetoric

three identical gachas, a fromsoft game and an astroturf campaign, yep that's the game awards!

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tgas-players-voice-final-nominees-black-myth-wukong-wuthering-waves-genshin-impact-elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-and-zenless-zone-zero.1055919/page-9#post-132701394

Can't wait for all of the propaganda games. I mean the West has Call of Duty. The CCP has to come up with something pretty quick

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/itch-io-site-down-due-to-funko-of-funko-pop-fame-using-ai-brand-protection-software.1055409/page-2#post-132670908

User Banned (1 Month): Antisemitic comment. The country of the company has nothing to do with the topic.

Another day, another shitty scammy Israeli tech company

[benji]

Don't think I'm not side eyeing all the cis people rushing to complain about staff locking that thread and calling it the most important event in history when the far-right government of the UK literally announced the literal extermination of all trans people today and they're completely silent about it.

Another example of why trans people have fled the forum and the staff don't have enough trans members.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tgas-players-voice-final-nominees-black-myth-wukong-wuthering-waves-genshin-impact-elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-and-zenless-zone-zero.1055919/page-8#post-132694464

User banned (1 month): Sinophobic rhetoric

three identical gachas, a fromsoft game and an astroturf campaign, yep that's the game awards!

>Complaing about “Three identical Gachas”

>Same dude was shilling Concord as the second coming…

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/photos-showing-face-of-man-sought-in-killing-of-insurance-c-e-o-focus-manhunt.1052907/page-27#post-132615771

User Banned (1 Month): Xenophobic Rhetoric

I haven't kept up with the whole thread but the dude definitely looks a bit Middle Eastern to me, I think it's the eyes.

[Eric Cartman]

Again, like I said in my big post, if there's new news feel free to make a new thread. We even have a TRB banner ready for when that happens. For some reason I feel like literally everyone is glossing over the fact I said that.

I also want to note that part of the problem is that people are starting to "joke" about assassinations like this one in other contexts. We literally had someone joke about assassinating a federal judge, something that is generally taken pretty seriously by law enforcement given they are already an assassination risk. What do people think happens when that sort of joking makes it's way over to gaming side or other less serious topics? Seriously, it's bad for everyone.

your concern that people are casually and unironically talking about extra judicial killings of, well, fucking anyone that belongs in the manifesto they'd write before doing it is that it would look bad if it happened on the main forum too?

[benji]

Cis people need to arm up and organize.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-question-man-in-pa-over-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-carrying-suppressor-manifesto-and-fake-id.1055997/page-41#post-132754977

User banned (permanent): Troll account

Evil prevails when good men do nothing

Let's kill them all then, why not? Where will you stop in your lynching spree? Where's the limit? Is there any? How many people deserve to die?

How much blood will satiate you?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-question-man-in-pa-over-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-carrying-suppressor-manifesto-and-fake-id.1055997/page-45#post-132776397

AliceAmber locked thread:

We're no longer interested in hosting this topic. It has long since lost the plot. As every American knows, there are a *lot* of problems with the private healthcare system, and you are not required to care about a CEO's death, nor would we ask you to. But the shooter wasn't a hero either, as more information about him is coming to light. The comparisons for the informant have become wildly inappropriate. We also wouldn't recommend making memes on doing your own version of this, on this forum or elsewhere. Any future threads on this topic will be locked.

This reads like forum trying to avoid any sort of legal issues around users posts. I wonder even if the guy might have a resetera account

This seems quite unusual honestly

https://www.resetera.com/threads/police-question-man-in-pa-over-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-carrying-suppressor-manifesto-and-fake-id.1055997/page-45#post-132776397

Edit: After internal discussion we have decided to let a new thread happen once more news develops. However we will be stricter with the rules moving forward. We have made a statement in the CCD.

[benji]

 Thank you Ted for being an ally, though you should be arming up and getting in the streets as well.

No, not "full Twitter"

[Eric Cartman]

designated hate group, designated by who?

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MY WIFE

[DavidCroquet]

The internal discussion: "guys, we can't let NeoGAF have a more civil and drama-free topic on this incident than we do...that's humiliating!"

[benji]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Hear us out!

Hey! Where are you going?


Where you going?

Come back!

[DavidCroquet]

What did Jesse Singal do, exactly?

I'm not reading that bluesky bible that Ted resharted or whatever. What was his "JK essay" moment?

Top of page  writing motivation

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[Uncle]

the reply does not say "it is with regret that we inform you that your daughter was mistakenly left out of the audit," it simply says she was left out of the audit

there are many reasons that any individual person may have been left out of such an audit

perhaps steps the parents took to protect their daughter's identity/information ironically made them unable to include her in the audit

perhaps she did not meet the specific requirements for being counted among those in the audit (did she go to Tavistock within a certain year range?)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/review-of-suicides-and-gender-dysphoria-at-the-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-foundation-trust/review-of-suicides-and-gender-dysphoria-at-the-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-foundation-trust-independent-report

I have examined the figures provided by NHSE on deaths in each year between 2018-19 and 2023-24. They are based on an internal audit by the Tavistock of deaths among current and former GIDS patients, divided by age (under 18 or 18 plus) and cause of death (suicide or other/suicide not confirmed).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Litman

Alice Litman was a transgender woman from Brighton, England, a notably LGBT-friendly city. She took her own life in May 2022, aged 20, after spending 1,023 days waiting for her first appointment with the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS). Her case received criticism due to the duration of her wait to receive gender-affirming care and insufficient mental healthcare. Litman's death led to an inquest and a prevention of future deaths report.

Tavistock is not mentioned in the article, perhaps due to never having officially gone there she was not counted in the audit of their data

also she was age 20, and you can see in the above quote that patients were divided by age for under 18 and 18+, and their conclusions were specifically with regard to trans YOUTH:

The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide in young gender dysphoria patients at the Tavistock.

also, would +1 have suddenly made a massive difference in the data?

The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide by young patients attending the gender services at the Tavistock since the High Court ruling in 2020 or after any other recent date. The figures for the 6 years covered in this review are 12 suicides in total, 2 per year on average, of whom half were under 18. With small numbers, single-figure differences can be expected and causal explanations are unreliable.

[Uncle]

What did Jesse Singal do, exactly?

I'm not reading that bluesky bible that Ted resharted or whatever. What was his "JK essay" moment?

I have "jk ese" moments all the time here with boredfrom

[Potato]

the most significant non-election event in recent US history

These cocks seriously think this is the start of their revolution. 

Problem is that they're all just waiting around for someone else, anyone else to take action.

[benji]

What did Jesse Singal do, exactly?

I'm not reading that bluesky bible that Ted resharted or whatever. What was his "JK essay" moment?

He supports everything trans rights but believes there's not enough established medical and scientific evidence for transitioning children as activists claim. But he still supports the transition of children in all instances.

As you can see, he is literally a Nazi propagandist.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/las-vegas-judge-attacked-by-defendant-during-sentencing-hearing.801723/page-6#post-132776571

Every other Black person who steps in front of that judge is fucked from the jump no matter how much rehabilitation they put in.

I'm surprised this post didn't get called out more…

[benji]

Watching the video again, it seems like the guy repeatably punching him in the head would deserve a similar sentence.

I am a reasonable person but I also understand that the guy has clear medical condition that doesn't seem to be addressed.


And that same fight in the street would not have been Attempted Murder. It's only that because of the context of the judge.

Personally, I don't see it rising to the level of attempted murder. It shouldn't be the business of the court system to try to read the minds of the accused. I'd need something more concrete to suggest actual attempted murder, like him carrying a knife or something. He was restrained far too quickly to, in my opinion, pass what the legal bar should be for attempted murder.

I think it's a decent assumption that he might have tried to kill her, and in a civil court I think it could pass the standard of balance of probabilities, but I think these kinds of things should be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal law, and I really, really don't see that here. Unless there's further evidence that I haven't heard in these articles, anyway.

To clarify , when I mean street I mean not in this environment. Doesn't have to be a street fight, Folks jump over the counter at Wendy's to fight employees or Waffle Houses and its not Attempted Murder. I'm saying that a schizophrenic defendant off meds should not be considered in the same manner as a traditional person on trial. What the video clearly show is this man is not right and that should be addressed not made an example of or setting precedence based on extraordinary circumstance. We need to stop this.


My own biases don't let me see this as Attempted Murder however, I wonder why other people see this so easily as attempted murder?

His prior charges for attempted murder (using a baseball bat) combined with the fact he plead guilty to trying to kill the judge.

I never saw he was charged with Attempted Murder before. I saw Attempted Battery. As for his plea on AM on the judge....that is suspect as FUCK! But my history with the justice system colors my context. YMMV.

[HaughtyFrank]

also, would +1 have suddenly made a massive difference in the data?

The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide by young patients attending the gender services at the Tavistock since the High Court ruling in 2020 or after any other recent date. The figures for the 6 years covered in this review are 12 suicides in total, 2 per year on average, of whom half were under 18. With small numbers, single-figure differences can be expected and causal explanations are unreliable.

Don't worry they wouldn't just report it as one more suicide. The same activists already did the "Suicide rates spike 300%!" spiel when like 3 more people died or something.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/there-is-an-employee-with-the-same-name-as-me-at-my-current-workplace-so-i-couldnt-use-my-preferred-name.808905/page-3#post-132774375

I had to update the first post because I have a thread ban lol.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/there-is-an-employee-with-the-same-name-as-me-at-my-current-workplace-so-i-couldnt-use-my-preferred-name.808905/#post-118079028

Short story:

I am working in here for a year and when people call which name I prefer I said I don't mind but sadly they picked the other one because there is another person who has my preferred name. Now I can't undo this.

Update after one year:

Nothing changed in one year and it still bothers me. I am planning to say "please use this while talking to me" to my colleagues. If they continue using my other name, I'll start calling them with their other names or just surnames. Or maybe I'll ignore them if they call my not preferred name. Why I have to work with immature people?

 

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/las-vegas-judge-attacked-by-defendant-during-sentencing-hearing.801723/page-6#post-132776046

That's what I actually find more questionable. Why did he plead guilty to attempted murder but is now saying that he didn't intend to kill her. Given he has mental health issues it makes me wonder in what state of mind he was when he pleaded guilty

This topic in particular is my "am I becoming a jaded old man" mental worry stone. 

I used to be very sympathetic to this kind of concern, but now I'm like...who gives a a shit?

"Yeah he definitely attempted murder, and yeah, he did a shit job of defending himself--but since both of those things are because he's wackadoo in the noggin, we should...let him get back to hanging around sane people sooner???"

[Uncle]

also, would +1 have suddenly made a massive difference in the data?

The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide by young patients attending the gender services at the Tavistock since the High Court ruling in 2020 or after any other recent date. The figures for the 6 years covered in this review are 12 suicides in total, 2 per year on average, of whom half were under 18. With small numbers, single-figure differences can be expected and causal explanations are unreliable.

Don't worry they wouldn't just report it as one more suicide. The same activists already did the "Suicide rates spike 300%!" spiel when like 3 more people died or something.

which is also why one more reported death would not have impacted the other 4 claims in the review ("80% of the claims, the overwhelming majority of them, still stand!")

The way that this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide. One risk is that young people and their families will be terrified by predictions of suicide as inevitable without puberty blockers - some of the responses on social media show this.

The claims that have been placed in the public domain do not meet basic standards for statistical evidence. To be reliable, evidence should be objective, unbiased and open to independent scrutiny. It should admit uncertainty.

[Uncle]

But he still supports the transition of children in all instances.

As you can see, he is literally a Nazi propagandist.

unironic agree????

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/las-vegas-judge-attacked-by-defendant-during-sentencing-hearing.801723/page-6#post-132776046

That's what I actually find more questionable. Why did he plead guilty to attempted murder but is now saying that he didn't intend to kill her. Given he has mental health issues it makes me wonder in what state of mind he was when he pleaded guilty

This topic in particular is my "am I becoming a jaded old man" mental worry stone. 

I used to be very sympathetic to this kind of concern, but now I'm like...who gives a a shit?

"Yeah he definitely attempted murder, and yeah, he did a shit job of defending himself--but since both of those things are because he's wackadoo in the noggin, we should...let him get back to hanging around sane people sooner???"

I mean, he's going to be found guilty anyway and get an even harsher sentence then for not accepting a plea. They're imagining some fantasy scenario where has some kind of airtight defense against what he did that a public defender will be able to put over the state with a jury. 

[Boredfrom]

I understand what's being said in terms of how someone should act within a courtroom, but something about this statement comes off as lumping everyone with mental issues into a danger category (since the perp apparently has a diagnosis), and I don't think you meant it that way. Maybe an edit?

That dude got a lot of chances and leniency.

[benji]

"Yes, ladies and gentleman of the jury, the defendant is on video jumping over the desk while screaming he'll kill the judge, but don't you see that he was putting systemic issues in front of us to begin organizing about? And that he's mentally ill so his repeated violence is not his fault, just bad luck? You must acquit and hold the entire system accountable. Ask yourself, what would the Black Panthers have done?"