Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Shecky Fragbaum]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outgoing-sony-pictures-ceo-kraven-and-madame-web-were-not-bad-films-for-some-reason-the-press-decided-they-didnt-want-us-making-them.1069404/page-5#post-133493319

…the discourse around the Sony universe is super annoying. There's this smug attitude that the MCU is this sacred property that how dare Sony try to shape a universe around it. So before a trailer even drops, people are shitting on the movie. And then when a trailer does drop and it looks like every other MCU movie, the comments are still what you would expect.

So while I do think the CEO is likely delusional, it also wouldn't matter how quality the films are because people have already made up their minds. Venom is a great point because there's nothing offensive about that movie that you couldn't attribute to 90% of MCU films, but yet those movies are generally spared.

Beautiful post right there. My man you hit the nail on the head, god bless. 

Because that's not true.

The original Venom is the least bad out of the live action Sony films but it is still a poor film that is held up by the genuinely entertaining relationship between Eddie and Venom, and a "wtf is he doing" performance by Tom Hardy.

And just to be clear, as you said you haven't even seen the other movies: all of the other live action Sony films (Morbius, Web, Kraven, Carnage, The Last Dance) are much worse than the original Venom. Almost every single MCU film is better. Even Eternals is a better-made film in terms of directing, editing, acting.

Look at the italics on this… that's when you know you hit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outgoing-sony-pictures-ceo-kraven-and-madame-web-were-not-bad-films-for-some-reason-the-press-decided-they-didnt-want-us-making-them.1069404/page-5#post-133495164

Huh?

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[kaleidoscopium]

Also, the trans character ended up being one of my favorite characters. What a badass…

https://www.resetera.com/threads/squid-game-season-2-ot.1069296/page-3#post-133503621

Uh oh… trans mafia won’t like it if this is a common sentiment

[Straight Edge]

Venom movies are the best marvel movies.

I still haven't seen the third one but I will bet it's true.

that is factually untrue

[Alpacx]

I'm mostly surprised by apparent adults writing Christmas wishlists. Are you fucking kidding me?

My family still does this for birthdays and Christmas. They aren't ironclad and I've given or recieved a really great gift which wasn't on the list but they make things easier.

If be interested in knowing what the Eras who recieved gifts with malice gave to their family members. $99 on nothing.


Could have sworn I saw this posted here yesterday, but this ban is insane for an unlocked thread with 5 pages.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/reddit-the-23-steps-of-purchasing-my-kid-a-sony-pc-game-on-steam-for-christmas.1069827/
 User banned (2 months): Creating a low effort thread with the intent of platform wars. Multiple prior bans for the same behavior. Threadmaking privileges revoked.
dex3108

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/yakkocmn-the-real-cost-of-gacha-games.1069875/#post-133504440

I think these games have a fair share of fans here on Era, and they will tell you to just ignore the negative impacts of gacha titles because they like exploring those games worlds, or they like the gameplay, or they like the designs (ha). They’re a perfect illustration of the normalization of these games and their addictive design practices.

Or they would say they agree the game's have issues but also enjoy playing them because some are actually fun games too.

Yes, they truly are a perfect illustration of the normalization of these games and their addictive design practices.

Honestly, get off your high horse here. We can talk about these issues without talking down to people who play the games.

I’ll stay on my horse thank you.

Okay mate lol, be careful up there then. You're probably not as balanced as you think you are.

[Besticus Maximus]

I wonder why all the women who hate women thread regulars are so into gacha 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Venom movies are the best marvel movies.

I still haven't seen the third one but I will bet it's true.

that is factually untrue

banned

[DocWager]

Venom movies are the best marvel movies.

I still haven't seen the third one but I will bet it's true.

that is factually untrue

banned

Great another forum with vindictive admin and mods.

[kaleidoscopium]

No, they don't. You're projecting.

We are talking about movies that are at 10% on RottenTomatoes. It is completely crazy to think that part of the reason for that is critics who don't want Sony having the rights to Spider-Man.

Conspiracy nonsense.

They are very bad movies. Some of the worst I the genre. That's why they got bad reviews. Why is that difficult to come to terms with?

Also, there are literally examples that prove what you're claiming incorrect. Both Spider-Verse movies got amazing reviews despite being Sony. Days of Future Past was lauded despite being Fox. Eternals got poor reviews despite the "perception" (to use your wording) of the MCU being hit after hit at the time.

The majority of critics just review the movie for what it is.

…

Venom being successful at the box office in no way proves him right. If anything, Venom's success simply added to their delusion. He thinks that if audiences like the Venom movies, there must be some nefarious reason why the same isn't the case for Kraven and Madame Web.

And that's where the delusion comes into play: this CEO (and other executives like him) don't actually understand what they're talking about. To them, Spider-Man is Spider-Man. They think, "If Venom is successful, Kraven will be too. They're both Spider-Man, after all!"

When in reality, Venom is successful because he's one of the most popular comic book characters of all time, while no one gives a shit about Kraven.

Of course, there is a way to get people to care about Kraven: make an awesome movie. Marvel Studios did that with Guardians of the Galaxy. But when the film is both terrible and about a character no one cares about, that is an instant setup for failure.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outgoing-sony-pictures-ceo-kraven-and-madame-web-were-not-bad-films-for-some-reason-the-press-decided-they-didnt-want-us-making-them.1069404/page-6#post-133509021

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/yakkocmn-the-real-cost-of-gacha-games.1069875/#post-133504440

People thinking that Mihoyo gacha is worse than Fate Grand/Order or Fire Emblem Heroes (a Nintendo money maker).

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/better-not-click-if-youre-enjoying-a-happy-christmas-did-you-ever-find-out-your-parents-no-longer-love-you-and-how-did-you-react-cope-with-it.1069110/#post-133450683

I've been a shutin for many years now, without irl friends, unemployed due to health reasons (both physical and mental), and the relationship with me and my parents has only been getting worse, since they always had a "money is everything" mindset, whereas I, even before I got into my situation, never cared about money at all. Not because I was rich, but because I never liked the idea of letting money dictate my happiness. So since I've been unemployed for most my life, nothing I ever did was of value to my parents. "Does it make money?" - "No" - "Kthxbye". Like that.

I don't believe this for one second

his parents don't care about money, they care about him contributing to society and taking a little personal responsibility for once

Those ungrateful pricks are unhappy because they are ungrateful pricks, not because mommy didn’t buy you the toy you wanted for Christmas. 

This shit is kind of infuriating because behind each of these stories I see two parents trying their best to help their shitty sons and daughters. 

Makes me want to start a support pod for these low-life piece of shit goons moms and dads.

Remember, they constantly project. They are absolutely convinced everyone else thinks everything is about money because they're greedy shits who can never stop posting about how they hate other people doing things they want to do rather than what they want them to do. Those people are the "greedy" ones, the parents are "money obsessed", cis people can never stop thinking about gender, white people never stop thinking about race, etc.

Like, what are the odds his parents recognize his money obsession and think they're making what they think is the best appeal possible to him? Not knowing that he despises himself and so projects what he hates about himself onto everyone else to blame them for him not getting what he wants at all times.

They know appealing to him because it will be good for him, it will help them, it will help society in general, has no appeal to him because he's a narcissist and believes everything is about him. Especially when people deny it's about him, it's really about him. That's how he knows Palestine will cease to exist when Gaza does and nobody in Germany cares about this like he does. Nobody in Germany is taking action against it like he is! As he doesn't even bother to find out what if any pro-Palestine or anti-Israel groups exist in the country other than what he gleans from a minor amount of paying attention to the national news headlines.

His parents must be this way, they must be spiteful and hateful and plotting and sending secret messages through gifts, because that's what he would do if he was in their situation! Everybody is always me but because they aren't doing things the way I want that proves they're malicious, why else would they do something from what I want?

How many of that forum's complaints about anything can be broken down this way? It seems like most of them, if not the near whole amount. Always a constant paranoia and fear and anger that everyone else thinks what they do, and that's why other people need to be stopped and forced to do what I want.

Nice bottle of bourbon, and the whole family is going to see Linkin Park in 2025. Also got a pair of ear plugs.

Explains so much

Are the ear plugs for the Linkin Park concert?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/car-drives-into-a-crowd-at-the-magdeburg-germany-christmas-market-leaving-60-80-injured-1-dead.1066608/page-4#post-133314780

If you ever see someone crying about immigration, really anywhere, at any time, toss em in the fucking dumpster.

Racist pieces of shit think that mewling about foreigners with the euphemism "immigration" is a convenient way to skirt past charges of bigotry.

The problem is that historically, and still, most immigrants are of the same race as the complainers. Especially if we include Asians properly as white adjacent. For example, in the US, 80% of immigrants continue to be white or white adjacent. The EU situation is really only slightly different because of the smaller populations and a temporary (hopefully) increase in refugees, if we discount the latter, it's mostly same race.

Which indicates a problem with your theory, you'd be safer to say xenophobic versus racist but this would undercut what you want to say because I suspect you wouldn't want to include, say, French people complaining about German or Romanian immigrants.

It'd also do further damage to your argument because it's entirely tautological. If you weren't xenophobic in some way you wouldn't be against immigration. And very very few people can truly be non-xenophobic. For example, what if I proposed that wherever you live, the city, should import the entire collective nation of Jewish people and fund them for a while. Remember, you don't want to skirt past charges of bigotry. So I hope you don't complain when there's an increase in synagogues, racist (aka kosher) butcher shops and Zionist groups. But now your original complaint against the person has been rendered comparatively toothless since you aren't as pristine as when you were alleging racism. 

Instead you're existing in a favorable cultural position for progressives in which they can pretend to be open borders in theory while actually opposing the position in practice. A true open borders position could not be hostile to free trade nor "cultural appropriation" and other such typical progressive complaints. Which is what reveals the actual underlying progressive position in which people who look different but are not different in any other way are what's acceptable. This is arguably more xenophobic than the more traditional position, which is less hostile to immigration than it is towards perceived relative cultural changes. It is in fact quite ironic that those who oppose open borders, or immigration in general, often say something like "they should stay there and improve their countries" which isn't really any different from the ethnic/racial separatist arguments from progressives like Nepenthe. One difference is that they seem less hostile to importing the goods, art, culture, etc. from those foreigners to the tastes of locals than progressives who argue for more stringent walls be placed against those things while pretending they'd be fine with the people themselves. (Even though this is settler colonialism.)

There's also the fact that a socialist nation would inherently not really participate in immigration much like it could not do foreign trade because socialism is autarky but this post is already too long and about things nobody will read which just proves y'all aren't ready for that conversation.

[HaughtyFrank]

No, they don't. You're projecting.

We are talking about movies that are at 10% on RottenTomatoes. It is completely crazy to think that part of the reason for that is critics who don't want Sony having the rights to Spider-Man.

Conspiracy nonsense.

They are very bad movies. Some of the worst I the genre. That's why they got bad reviews. Why is that difficult to come to terms with?

Also, there are literally examples that prove what you're claiming incorrect. Both Spider-Verse movies got amazing reviews despite being Sony. Days of Future Past was lauded despite being Fox. Eternals got poor reviews despite the "perception" (to use your wording) of the MCU being hit after hit at the time.

The majority of critics just review the movie for what it is.

…

Venom being successful at the box office in no way proves him right. If anything, Venom's success simply added to their delusion. He thinks that if audiences like the Venom movies, there must be some nefarious reason why the same isn't the case for Kraven and Madame Web.

And that's where the delusion comes into play: this CEO (and other executives like him) don't actually understand what they're talking about. To them, Spider-Man is Spider-Man. They think, "If Venom is successful, Kraven will be too. They're both Spider-Man, after all!"

When in reality, Venom is successful because he's one of the most popular comic book characters of all time, while no one gives a shit about Kraven.

Of course, there is a way to get people to care about Kraven: make an awesome movie. Marvel Studios did that with Guardians of the Galaxy. But when the film is both terrible and about a character no one cares about, that is an instant setup for failure.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outgoing-sony-pictures-ceo-kraven-and-madame-web-were-not-bad-films-for-some-reason-the-press-decided-they-didnt-want-us-making-them.1069404/page-6#post-133509021

He's truly so funny. Meanwhile when Times declared Dragon Age Veilguard game of the year he was happy to defend it and didn't care at all about its Metacritic score

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outgoing-sony-pictures-ceo-kraven-and-madame-web-were-not-bad-films-for-some-reason-the-press-decided-they-didnt-want-us-making-them.1069404/page-6#post-133509441

just openly clowning this dude now might be the most hated poster there

[Taco Bell Tower]

Why do you think Ree users celebrated when Zeo got three months ban and were able to have fun Marvel threads while Alexandros was all   for it

[nachobro]

cause he's also an annoying standoffish cunt. dude is a lawyer/larps as a lawyer and posts in the same manner. look up his posts on resetti / metacouncil about epic v apple or egs in general. he's the same sort of "always right" type of poster that regards anything that disagrees with him as "factually incorrect"

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Imagine caring that much about movies.

[BIONIC]

Imagine caring that much about movies.

Listen, I grew up on Spider-Man. My first comic ever was Web of Spider-Man #117. That means I have nostalgia for the damn Clone Saga and all of its "90s superhero comic"-ness.

If Sony made a good Kraven movie, I would have been there at 7 PM on Thursday night as I am for most MCU films. I want all of these movies to be good.

[benji]

Listen, I grew up on Spider-Man. My first comic ever was Web of Spider-Man #117. That means I have nostalgia for the damn Clone Saga and all of its "90s superhero comic"-ness.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The only movie I really care about is is American History X.

[benji]

Listen, I grew up on Spider-Man. My first comic ever was Web of Spider-Man #117. That means I have nostalgia for the damn Clone Saga and all of its "90s superhero comic"-ness.

Though I guess does this explain his love of the dreck he does. The writing (especially plotting) of most MCU and modern Star Wars garbage is pretty much the same as the worst of the 90's big comics.

Love that he thinks it's "comicness" and not the result of bankrupt (some literally like Marvel) companies trying to sell purely to the collectors aftermarket by producing as many random SHOCKING events as possible in hopes they'll drive up prices for the issues eventually. Which is pretty much how Feige plots the films and series and is notoriously JJ Abrams opinion of how all plotting should be done.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/remember-mary-jane-is-with-a-gigachad-being-an-amazing-superhero-while-raising-the-son-of-peter-parkers-greatest-enemy.1069983/

Slayven enjoying NTR/Cuckold stories.

[Boredfrom]

I don’t see every single anime out there.  

I’m pretty casual all things considered.

For the curious, is apparently a scene from this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erased_(manga)

And the context is that “anime fans whined about the ending because he didn’t get the girl”, at least this is what I get by Era commenting on it. Maybe the drama was for another reason altogether and Era just conveniently misremembered, I dunno.



EDIT: Is a Cast Away ending      . But with a coma instead of a island.

Hardcore blue balling.

I did watch that mediocre show when it aired and basically the main character travels in time, keeping his memories as an adult, to save a little girl that was supposed to die, he succeeds and she ends up having a normal life. 

Weebs got upset he didn't banged her. They are that retarded.

He is in coma for 15 years and the killer is the one that ends having a boner for him.

Yeah, I can see that being a raw deal even if he has magical time travel powers.

[Jansen]

The only movie I really care about is is American History X.

My favorite scene is the curbstomp

[kaleidoscopium]

I haven't been absurd at all. Not in the slightest. I'm not even the only person debating you in this thread. But you do you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outgoing-sony-pictures-ceo-kraven-and-madame-web-were-not-bad-films-for-some-reason-the-press-decided-they-didnt-want-us-making-them.1069404/page-6#post-133517001

[Jansen]

Nothing much to add, only ever saw Venom 1 was which I thought was okay but forgettable (just had to look up who the villain was). Would love to know just how many mandates and interference these films had from the higher ups, especially from Tom Rothman given everything he pulled during his days at Fox with their Marvel movies. It wouldn't be surprising if they really did think these films were good, assuming just adding parts together from successful films (plus these executives own egos) would automatically make a good film because they don't understand filmmaking.



One of the frustrating things is how after Madame Web they went instantly to "WOMEN DON'T SELL!", especially when it was discovered the shit they were pulling with Silk. Honestly, I don't want a Silk show or film under them because I don't want her reputation tainted; I just know ANY time Madame Web or any of women Spidey characters from it gets brought up now in any context, their is going to be an arsehole who won't let that film go and keep saying "No women! Only Peter!"



One thing I always wondered about they way people reacted to the name Morbius is if people did the same back in the 50s? For those who don't know, Morbius's name is a reference to Dr. Edward Morbius, one of the main characters from Forbidden Planet, once of the most influential and beloved Sci-Fi which has been credited as being one of the main inspirations for Star Trek along with works like H.G. Wells Shape of Thing To Come. Always seemed weird that never got acknowledged during the height of the memes (which I admit I got sick of, especially when people kept cramming that joke into anything regardless if it made sense or was funny (because stealing other people's jokes makes ME funny /s)).

Just for once make a normal post

[Taco Bell Tower]

I haven't been absurd at all. Not in the slightest. I'm not even the only person debating you in this thread. But you do you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outgoing-sony-pictures-ceo-kraven-and-madame-web-were-not-bad-films-for-some-reason-the-press-decided-they-didnt-want-us-making-them.1069404/page-6#post-133517001

[Potato]

I'm mostly surprised by apparent adults writing Christmas wishlists. Are you fucking kidding me?

My family still does this for birthdays and Christmas. They aren't ironclad and I've given or recieved a really great gift which wasn't on the list but they make things easier.

If be interested in knowing what the Eras who recieved gifts with malice gave to their family members. $99 on nothing.


Could have sworn I saw this posted here yesterday, but this ban is insane for an unlocked thread with 5 pages.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/reddit-the-23-steps-of-purchasing-my-kid-a-sony-pc-game-on-steam-for-christmas.1069827/
 User banned (2 months): Creating a low effort thread with the intent of platform wars. Multiple prior bans for the same behavior. Threadmaking privileges revoked.
dex3108

I've been saying this for so long. Most of these idiots came into gaming in the PS1 and PS2 generations and have never got out of the console warrior phase of their lives. The moderation is the worst of the bunch and was the same at NeoGoof.

[Nintex]

Let's just touch on "Madame Web" for a moment. "Madame Web" underperformed in the theaters because the press just crucified it. It was not a bad film, and it did great on Netflix. For some reason, the press decided that they didn't want us making these films out of "Kraven" and "Madame Web," and the critics just destroyed them. They also did it with "Venom," but the audience loved "Venom" and made "Venom" a massive hit. These are not terrible films. They were just destroyed by the critics in the press, for some reason.

Also registering and signing up new accounts is actually hell these days.
Try installing Windows on a fresh laptop and creating a new Windows account on that same new laptop. It'll just infinite loop the bot captchas.

You need at least one other already verified device to create an account. So good luck starting fresh.

[clockwork5]

I haven't been absurd at all. Not in the slightest. I'm not even the only person debating you in this thread. But you do you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/outgoing-sony-pictures-ceo-kraven-and-madame-web-were-not-bad-films-for-some-reason-the-press-decided-they-didnt-want-us-making-them.1069404/page-6#post-133517001

You are objectively correct

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vivek-on-american-mediocrity-culture.1070118/

Absolute gold mine of 

Vivek is literally talking about them directly being the mediocre cunts they are, making excuses for their laziness by inventing and self-diagnosing mental illness, deifying starving artist lifestyles, but they're just playing the man and not the message. 

It's so much 

There's too much to single out any posts, but have at it Benji. Can't wait to hear your takes.