Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Potato]

gaf

[benji]

gaf

We left that place because we always knew the owner was a Nazi chud. But also their moderation was perfect and really ideal.

[benji]

Or Bionic’s

Really odd to see somebody attempt to garner sympathy but still acting smug and unlikeable.

Soooo, it's OK to wish for KCD2 developers to go out of business and the developers to all lose their jobs, but not to wish for the Chinese spyware app to be put out of business and the internet janitors to lose their jobs?

OK, era mods. 

It's also what they want done to Meta and Twitter if you go into any thread about them or Elon. You know, the places Fiction says she has to go work at now.

[Boredfrom]

gaf

We left that place because we always knew the owner was a Nazi chud. But also their moderation was perfect and really ideal.

I mean, people only truly discussed how terrible the moderation was after the site collapsed and ERA was forming (so every reaction was behind discords). We knew that the ERA wasn’t going to be much better because most of the staff were the same guys that benefited from the shit moderation (and asked the old staff for help until people started to call out others). 

There is still people at ERA that thing that GAF was always perfect and that lore just went mask off and destroyed the site by pivoting to the right.

[benji]

Never Have Heroes Episode 16984 - Adam Sessler, despite hating Gamers, goes full mask-off fascist chud:

[benji]

Spoiler: stupid retweets I wanted to comment on but spoilered for your protection (click to show)(click to hide)

But this argues that the perceived hierarchy and tiers should exist and be violently enforced because people are able to move between them. This is incredibly misogynistic. For example, another RT right below this:

This is specifically demanding that men be solely allowed to define womanhood to the exclusion of women, a lesser tier in the hierarchy.


Fires are famously prevented by socialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster


This is not remotely close to anything Adam Smith wrote. (Though he was open borders.)

[Uncle]

fag

[Echelon]

No, but she will if the ban goes through and supposedly already has job invites from meta and Twitter

Now to play the game of 'Which of the replies is HaughtyFrank??'

Or Bionic’s

I'm literally part of the team that removes thousands of instances of hate speech and disinformation a day.

There is zero way to get it all of it, its impossible. But we are fucking passionate about it, and stomp our feet if we think we aren't doing enough and get policy to change.

And now we are getting invites from the likes of Meta and Twitter to interview.

I'm going to lose my job.

I'm going to have to join a place where hate speech is actually allowed and encouraged to continue to feed myself and my family.

So many people talking out of their ass about this shit when it's literally my actual real life job

Fucking hell we remove Trump videos for hate speech constantly.

Where the fuck else am i going to be able to continue the work I've done for like ten years now?

But sure we don't do shit, it's a right wing app, it's full of disinformation blah blah.

Also it really fucking hurts to see the majority on this forum, that I love, literally cheer for my life to be ruined.

Your "job" is to be a literal employee at the Ministry of Truth you dumb bitch. The only thing you deserve is to stock shelves and serve me food.

[Uncle]

gaf

We left that place because we always knew the owner was a Nazi chud. But also their moderation was perfect and really ideal.

I mean, people only truly discussed how terrible the moderation was after the site collapsed and ERA was forming (so every reaction was behind discords). We knew that the ERA wasn’t going to be much better because most of the staff were the same guys that benefited from the shit moderation (and asked the old staff for help until people started to call out others). 

There is still people at ERA that thing that GAF was always perfect and that lore just went mask off and destroyed the site by pivoting to the right.

the original bore was created basically for this purpose, people complained about the moderation all the time

absolutely everyone hated amirox openly on the site, and then everyone clowned on lore when he claimed he didn't know the guy

everyone thought besada was disgusting and insufferable

there was the other mod who I think was defending pedophilia

[Boredfrom]

We left that place because we always knew the owner was a Nazi chud. But also their moderation was perfect and really ideal.

I mean, people only truly discussed how terrible the moderation was after the site collapsed and ERA was forming (so every reaction was behind discords). We knew that the ERA wasn’t going to be much better because most of the staff were the same guys that benefited from the shit moderation (and asked the old staff for help until people started to call out others). 

There is still people at ERA that thing that GAF was always perfect and that lore just went mask off and destroyed the site by pivoting to the right.

the original bore was created basically for this purpose, people complained about the moderation all the time

absolutely everyone hated amirox openly on the site, and then everyone clowned on lore when he claimed he didn't know the guy

everyone thought besada was disgusting and insufferable

there was the other mod who I think was defending pedophilia

Talking about normies that keep themselves in line with the forum and followed people to ERA. The guys that thought Besada was the next Bishop until whatever discord drama happened. 

Agree that the forum was bad years before all that, but the only real time when the GAF community confronted how shit the moderation was, the Amirox arrest, it was almost instantly killed and the staff washed their hands.

[Superstar]

'Actor Djimon Hounsou says he's "definitely underpaid" and "struggling financially" despite Oscar nominations, blockbuster roles' https://www.resetera.com/threads/actor-djimon-hounsou-says-hes-definitely-underpaid-and-struggling-financially-despite-oscar-nominations-blockbuster-roles.1080147/

"I'm still struggling to make a living"

He portrays Korath the Pursuer in Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), Captain Marvel (2019) and What If...? (2021). In the DC Extended Universe, he appears as the Fisherman King in Aquaman (2018) and as the wizard Shazam in Shazam! (2019), Black Adam (2022) and Shazam! Fury of the Gods (2023). His other notable films include Stargate (1994), Gladiator (2000), Constantine, The Island (both 2005), Special Forces (2011), How to Train Your Dragon 2 (2014), Furious 7 (2015), The Legend of Tarzan (2016), A Quiet Place Part II (2021), Gran Turismo, Rebel Moon – Part One: A Child Of Fire (both 2023), Rebel Moon – Part Two: The Scargiver and A Quiet Place: Day One (both 2024).

Lol dude comes off as a total con artist and of course Reeetards will buy his story at face value. Certainly doesn't seem to be "struggling" like the rest of us.

https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/djimon-hounsou-is-renting-out-his-la-ca-property-for-11750-per-month/

[MMaRsu]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-7#post-134175420

"We should improve society by not playing Kingdom Come Deliverance 2"

💀

[Eric Cartman]

Didn’t Therin company collapsed and he was involved in some controversies?

They feel that if I get a job, it should have been given to a white person. I should never be in positions of authority, or in a position to earn accolades or achievement. If I achieve something, I got it via some help, because there's no way in hell my brown ass ever actually achieved something over a white man. Because the white man is better than me. Smarter than me. Bigger than me. More handsome than me. I am brown trash that shouldn't even bother trying to swim out of the gutter where I've been placed.

Fake ass self pity.

Oh, the guy from Dangen Entertainment personally (as in, not just as 'generic employee of company', him as an individual) called out for - at best being massively fucking incompetent and unqualified to do his job, at worst being corrupt and screwing over developer partners to steal money from them - by multiple different minority non english speaking developers?

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dangen-entertainment-robbing-indie-devs-updates-threadmarked.154748/
(notice how the topic continues long after TheTrins non-statement statement and he dips from the thread forever

Hey everyone, Nayan from DANGEN Entertainment here.

I loathe writing messages like this, because it means that something is on fire. I really wish I was writing a post about how awesome I thought X-men #2 was, or how much I’m enjoying Jedi Fallen Order.

That said, I think it’s proper that I handle the issue at hand directly. Since even before its release, the developer of Devil Engine has been verbally abusive to us, and has been hugely toxic to our entire team. The toxicity got to a point that it started to affect my mental state, and we eventually mutually agreed to a commucation proxy to get work done. (I’m happy to offer up evidence if asked, but I’m not doing so right now to keep this post legible).

There is no question that we made mistakes while working with the developer. We’re not perfect. When mistakes were made, we did our best to rectify the situation.

Soon after the release of Devil Engine, the developer assigned a proxy to receive all revenue they had earned. This was to expedite payment and make sure that they DID NOT receive payment late. Withholding tax when transferring money out of the country is a giant headache, which is why a proxy based in Japan was chosen. We paid the developer’s proxy on July 23rd, well within the rules of the contract we signed. We also supplied evidence to the developer of the payment..

And now they’re attacking one of our other developers, encouraging people to pirate the game instead of buying it. Bug Fables is an incredible game that deserves better. Moonsprout Games has been working for a very long time on the game, and has created something that we’re insanely lucky and proud to be working with. They do not deserve this.

Anyway, if anyone has questions or would like evidence, I do need to ask our counsel what we’re able to make public, as we do have an NDA in place. I hope this clears things up.

reddit (where hes not a protected user) responses:

Alright, evidence please then?

copypasting this message 1:1 from the resetera thread really shows your work ethic and just how genuine you are

I too would like to see this evidence you supposedly have.

Some evidence would be nice to make your post more than PR speech, which I hope you can provide

Could you specify what type of proxy was used for expediting the payment?

Which type of tax did you have to withhold?

" the developer of Devil Engine has been verbally abusive to us " This needs more explanation.

" There is no question that we made mistakes while working with the developer. " This needs more explanation.

Edit: Why don't you release Devil Engine in DRM-free stores? Itch.io, gog, humble, etc

Bit weird the forum that will hound people out of a job at the drop of a hat don't do shit about a grandfathered in gaf protected user with multiple accusations and no real satisfactory response, innit?

[Eric Cartman]

You know, a lot of us kind of laughed when Mo'Nique had her war with Netflix over what they tried to offer her for a comedy special. But, looking back, she had a point.

Especially when you looked at her resume (already a renown comedian, actress of a popular sitcom, and an Oscar winner) versus what they were offering other comedians without half her accolades.

She was bitching she wasn't earning as much as Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle, idiot.
She's no fucking Chris Rock or Dave Chapelle.

Its nothing to do with being black, because fucking chris rock and dave chapelle.

Amy Schumer made the same complaints. She is also no fucking Dave Chapelle or Chris Rock.

[Eric Cartman]

Also telling eras "Wow hes great though!" references are all fucking capeshit, and not Amistad

[Nintex]

This isn't hard, just have a respectful discussion and you can avoid getting banned.

Not hard to have a respectful discussion? More like Nightmare difficulty on ResetEra 

[HaughtyFrank]

'Actor Djimon Hounsou says he's "definitely underpaid" and "struggling financially" despite Oscar nominations, blockbuster roles' https://www.resetera.com/threads/actor-djimon-hounsou-says-hes-definitely-underpaid-and-struggling-financially-despite-oscar-nominations-blockbuster-roles.1080147/

"I'm still struggling to make a living"

He portrays Korath the Pursuer in Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), Captain Marvel (2019) and What If...? (2021). In the DC Extended Universe, he appears as the Fisherman King in Aquaman (2018) and as the wizard Shazam in Shazam! (2019), Black Adam (2022) and Shazam! Fury of the Gods (2023). His other notable films include Stargate (1994), Gladiator (2000), Constantine, The Island (both 2005), Special Forces (2011), How to Train Your Dragon 2 (2014), Furious 7 (2015), The Legend of Tarzan (2016), A Quiet Place Part II (2021), Gran Turismo, Rebel Moon – Part One: A Child Of Fire (both 2023), Rebel Moon – Part Two: The Scargiver and A Quiet Place: Day One (both 2024).

Lol dude comes off as a total con artist and of course Reeetards will buy his story at face value. Certainly doesn't seem to be "struggling" like the rest of us.

https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/djimon-hounsou-is-renting-out-his-la-ca-property-for-11750-per-month/

I can believe that he's not making huge amounts of money as he tends to get cast for smaller parts which is a shame since he is a pretty good actor. Though that he's straight up struggling feels a bit hard to believe

[Besticus Maximus]

It's a sign of how chud-adjacent this forum is that no one even thinks actors should be paid when someone posts a gif of them 

[HardcoreRetro]

I had to change from gold plated wagyu A5 steaks for breakfast to regular wagyu A5 steaks. I'm struggling financially. 

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-7

I fail to see why Cyberpunk gets the ban treatment and this does not.

Internal guidelines

Lol unfair. Cdpr was much more benign compared to the outward hostility of DV.
Stand for something or stand for nothing etc

He said the thing

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-2#post-134111160

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whew this thread took like 5 minutes to get heated. looks like we gotta go back to elementary school for learning how to talk to other people

• hating the director is fine (we all probably should)
  
• not supporting the game is fine (totally reasonable to boycott)
  
• somehow shifting blame to people that work at the studio is lame; the economy is way too brutal and games industry is way too cutthroat to expect people to just "find a new job"
  • somehow shifting blame to people that work at the studio is lame; the economy is way too brutal and games industry is way too cutthroat to expect people to just "find a new job"
    

• getting super hostile with someone for having interest in the game is probably not a great use of energy. 99% of Era is left-leaning politically, so save it for the actual chuds and pseudo-nazis
  • a measured "hey, maybe reconsider this game" is totally reasonable though

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No. They are actively supporting the man and even if they can;t find another job in the games industry, they can find one elsewhere.
4. For starters, no, Era is not left leaning. The other is that in this climate if you knowingly and willingly support shitty people and companies then you deserve all the shit that comes your way (After said initial, hey, reconsider this game convo).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-3#post-134114175

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Yeah fuck it, its not as if the entire video game industry is imploding with thousands of people losing their jobs already - lets just hope a few hundred more get cut all because 1 public prick is involved, nothing to do with the actual quality/merit of the game itself!

Get real.

What an absolutely arrogant, narrow-minded thing to say. Did you say this about all the other devs who have lost their jobs the last two years? How on earth can you say every single person in a studio is complicit? We're talking about programmers, sound design, HR, finance - several area's who have nothing to do with the design of the game - they are complicit and therefore deserve to lose their jobs? Jesus christ.

Spare me the pearl clutching. We in the end responsible for who and what we work for. If you are happy with this being in the project you work on from previews above:

In particular, it settles happily into the concept of a medieval society in which women are ornaments, bystanders, forgiving confidants, and objects of lust. The first time you see a woman in Deliverance 2's world, beyond the intro cinematics, it's as part of an Ovidian stealth tutorial where you and Hans sneak up on some bathers. The first female character you have an actual conversation with is a healer; the second is the healer's daughter, who promptly launches into the role of Henry's bedside therapist.

I don't think this is all there is to Deliverance 2's depictions of women - I've had some relatively non-lecherous chats with at least three, one of them admittedly a brothel owner - but the framework we are working with here is very much Boys Will Be Boys and Oh You (Hands On Hips). I'm interested to discover whether this will change. Deliverance 2's opening is dominated by the chemistry between Henry and Sir Hans, with Sir Hans serving as the unapologetic piece of shit who both enables Henry's boorishness and makes you feel better because you're not that bad. But there are traces of something more engaging there.

You are complicit. Just like how people who work for oil companies are complicit in the ruining of this planet. You can not absolve yourself from this responsibility. I have switched jobs and lost jobs just over ethical shit like this in my lifetime. And I have turned down defense project jobs involved in developing weapons for the US government for the exact same reason. These people live in the European Union where they can work in whatever industry they want. So yes finding a new job is a solid argument.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-5#post-134139969

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Btw, watched the video in the OP and, just as the boredom from all the historically accurate mayonnaise on display set in the stealth tutorial involved attempting to and successfully spying on busty women with very wet clothes on while they're doing laundry because "boys will be boys amirite, sexual harassment is fun actually"

Dude even essentially said

"Bro, listen....FEMALES!" before doing so, also this is followed by attempted SA.

yea....i'm good.

Yeah, but it's "historically accurate", and the "game looks so good!".

"Game looks so good I don't care if I support a Nazi and those who are still willingly working for him even though he has been very open about where he stands for the last six years. I NEED MAH GAME!"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-6#post-134145573

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Calm down lol its just a video game, if you dont want to support it, theres no need to come to the thread and blast people that just want to play a good crpg

Agreed. These people need to calm their tits, including the mods who banned conhorlio

People complaining about this game are just as bad as people complaining about "woke" games elsewhere.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-6#post-134148666

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If 9 people sit down at a table with 1 Nazi without protest, there are 10 Nazis at the table.

Where was this banning energy when the burka brigade were shitting up every Stellar Blade thread

[nampad]

Thread backfire:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-the-f-k-is-my-upstairs-neighbor-doing.1046583/page-3#post-134103909

Resetera behavior 101.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-2#post-134111160

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[/list]
[/list]
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No. They are actively supporting the man and even if they can;t find another job in the games industry, they can find one elsewhere.
4. For starters, no, Era is not left leaning. The other is that in this climate if you knowingly and willingly support shitty people and companies then you deserve all the shit that comes your way (After said initial, hey, reconsider this game convo).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-3#post-134114175

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Spare me the pearl clutching. We in the end responsible for who and what we work for. If you are happy with this being in the project you work on from previews above:
You are complicit. Just like how people who work for oil companies are complicit in the ruining of this planet. You can not absolve yourself from this responsibility. I have switched jobs and lost jobs just over ethical shit like this in my lifetime. And I have turned down defense project jobs involved in developing weapons for the US government for the exact same reason. These people live in the European Union where they can work in whatever industry they want. So yes finding a new job is a solid argument.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-5#post-134139969

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Yeah, but it's "historically accurate", and the "game looks so good!".

"Game looks so good I don't care if I support a Nazi and those who are still willingly working for him even though he has been very open about where he stands for the last six years. I NEED MAH GAME!"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-6#post-134145573

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Agreed. These people need to calm their tits, including the mods who banned conhorlio

People complaining about this game are just as bad as people complaining about "woke" games elsewhere.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-6#post-134148666

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If 9 people sit down at a table with 1 Nazi without protest, there are 10 Nazis at the table.

Where was this banning energy when the burka brigade were shitting up every Stellar Blade thread

Admins and mods are fucking the burka regulars

[Snoopy]

Watch out everyone. Dubs is back on his fence again

For everyone in the back: DO NOT ATTACK EACH OTHER FOR YOUR STANCE ON THIS GAME IN ANY WAY OR YOU GET BANNED. DO NOT BE DISMISSIVE OF THE ISSUES WITH THIS GAME OR GET BANNED.

[Besticus Maximus]

There's a lot of people asking why we banned Cyberpunk and Hogwarts but we're not banning this. Truth is guys, it's all really complicated.

We now have a policy framework by which we can assess these things. We can't tell you what that is because doing that would undermine the point right? Like what's the point of banning people if people know the rule they're breaking, they just won't do the thing and stay hidden in the shadows like hyenas!

Plus and this should seem fairly obvious but the policy coming in after Cyberpunk and Hogwarts means we can't really judge them by this new framework. For one reason, among many, it would mean you guys would know what rule it is you're breaking before you do it and then we are back to square one.

I also want you all to think more about the concept of time and what it means for being in the now. Like if, in another time, we banned one game, then that doesn't mean we have to do it again, because this is a different time, and that means this time is different.

[kaleidoscopium]

Which reminds me, I need to remove the first Kingdom Come from my Steam library. I kickstarted it back in like a whole ass decade ago. I threw the physical stuff in the garbage. But I guess I forgot to take out the digital trash.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-2-preview-thread.1079187/page-7#post-134175420

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-got-death-threats-when-men-thought-i-put-feminist-gesture-in-video-game-bbc.1080183/#post-134175729

Toxic straight masculinity and virulent misogyny is literally destroying the world. We are all being crushed by the fragile egos of men who cannot be human, and refuse to be humane.

Counterpoint:

Thread backfire:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-the-f-k-is-my-upstairs-neighbor-doing.1046583/page-3#post-134103909

[Straight Edge]

Which reminds me, I need to remove the first Kingdom Come from my Steam library. I kickstarted it back in like a whole ass decade ago. I threw the physical stuff in the garbage. But I guess I forgot to take out the digital trash.

[Daffy Duck]

1736695073[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-got-death-threats-when-men-thought-i-put-feminist-gesture-in-video-game-bbc.1080183/#post-134175729

Toxic straight masculinity and virulent misogyny is literally destroying the world. We are all being crushed by the fragile egos of men who cannot be human, and refuse to be humane.

Counterpoint:

1736545602[/url]']
Thread backfire:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-the-f-k-is-my-upstairs-neighbor-doing.1046583/page-3#post-134103909

I mean, why would you put in a gesture that makes it look like you’re taking the piss out of people with a micro penis! Do better SK game developer!

*this is not condoning the harassment, just saying maybe don’t put potentially offensive content in your game

Tell me you have a small dick without telling me you have a small dick

Why are posts like this OK? Body shaming is body shaming!!

Also hilarious how they trying to defend the gesture but lose their minds when woke one throws the 👌🏻 symbol 😂

[Straight Edge]

That's what these types of people do. They take great joy in parading their shitty values and getting into fights online. It's sad and pathetic