“Every day, I come by your house and I pick you up.

[Polident]

Top Gun Maverick, yet again

Thinking on it, it’s the only movie released in the past five years I’ve rewatched. And more than a few times.

[Potato]

It was awful. It really was. Tonally so different from the original. Had more in common with capeshit.

[Polident]

It’s different if you’re an American. At its core it’s the spiritual battle between baby boomers and younger generations. Even Mav’s arc with Rooster is letting go of handicapping and sabotaging his potential.

[Chudder Barbarity]

In light of current events:

I've enjoyed almost all of the handful Lynch films I've watched (favourite is probably Lost Highway) except for Blue Velvet. That movie is straight up garbage, I have no idea why that one is his most acclaimed.

And I've watched twin peaks up to the reveal. do i have to watch the filler arc or can I just skip to then end?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Top Gun Maverick, yet again

Thinking on it, it’s the only movie released in the past five years I’ve rewatched. And more than a few times.

Is it streamable?

oh wait i saw it already

[Snoopy]

I saw Blue Velvet in the cinema as part of a double bill with Betty Blue. Betty was on first and the place was packed out. Then Blue Velvet came on. It got to “that” bit and I heard noise behind me. So I looked back and people were leaving in droves. By the time it ended the place was almost empty, but I fucking guarantee every single one of those people who stormed out will be singing it’s praises today.

[chronovore]

Watched SYNCHRONIC, a horror-adjacent sci-fi movie with Anthony Mackie. The first 30 minutes are really good. It builds its world and lore, and explores the two main leads' lives, a couple of EMTs who had bigger dreams, dealing with some squalid shit in NOLA. Sometimes it's not clear if the characters are having visions, remembering things, or a third plot-based experience. And that's fine, it's really good. Then the 2nd act turn hits, and subtlety and nuance leave the frame. It changes from something beautifully shot to something much more workmanlike, borderline Asylum production, but with better lighting. The film changes its focus to exploring the mechanics of their central plot conceit, rather than the stuff that made act 1 flow so well. 

There are several interesting ideas they touch on, and a couple are explored, a few others remain untouched. This is a good movie that could have been great. I wonder if having two directors, there may have been a hand-off at some point that accounts for the inconsistency in tone and content.

[Polident]

In light of current events:

I've enjoyed almost all of the handful Lynch films I've watched (favourite is probably Lost Highway) except for Blue Velvet. That movie is straight up garbage, I have no idea why that one is his most acclaimed.

And I've watched twin peaks up to the reveal. do i have to watch the filler arc or can I just skip to then end?

My original post was about how his only movie I haven’t fully watched was Inland Empire. Tried to with my roommate but he kept complaining about why a guy was riding a lawnmower. Now I’m realizing that wasn’t Inland Empire at all. It was The Straight Story. That’s two of his movies I haven’t watched. And now I’m thinking back to what I asked the video rental guy if he gave me it instead of Inland Empire.

[chronovore]

You have… video rental guys still?

[chronovore]

I have made the mistake, and continue to make the mistake, of watching the DCEU films, starting with MAN OF STEEL, and so far continuing with BATMAN V SUPERMAN, which is only slightly less inane. Cavill makes a great Superman. Batfleck is more compelling than most seem willing to acknowledge. It doesn't help that Michael Keaton's return to the role in FLASH is a goddamned triumph, and the best part of that film. 

I thought Snyder writing was the problem, but MoS is David S. Goyer and FUCKING CHRISTOPHER NOLAN. No writing credit for Snyder at all. WTF? Goyer also wrote BvS, while apparently smoking the remnants of whatever he was on while writing Blade: Trinity. Man, looking at Goyer's history, he's responsible for some great stuff and also some amazing garbage. 

Snyder still should not be allowed to write, but good golly, apparently this wasn't on him?

[Potato]

The DCEU really will go down as the most colossal waste of acting talent in history. 

Cavill was a superb Superman. I also thought Batflec was very good in the role.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Still disappointed we never got a solo Batfleck flim.

[Polident]

Writing credits are loopy. MOS was all Goyer. His credit on BVS is from writing an earlier draft. Like how Avengers is in part credited to the writer of Incredible Hulk.

Really like the main series and I don’t want to be harsh on Goyer, but I think the writer of BVS and JL could’ve made it richer. There are a lot of great moments and ideas. Inevitably, there’s a blue sky laser to turn off at the end. Like Avengers and Transformers 3 and a half dozen other movies. It’s arguably the best of the blue lasers with its dubstep gravity hammer.

As for the rest, honestly they’re about as bad or good as other superhero movies to me. It was pretty funny how The Flash shot a handful of endings because they couldn’t decide what the next move was. #savebatgirl

[benji]

Goyer wrote the original draft, Snyder "wrote" with Terrio on the final draft (from what I understand Snyder rewrites scripts more on set, Terrio would have written the screenplay as typically understood), then the later two wrote Zack Snyder's Justice League. The Ultimate Edition of BvS is the "correct" one, especially since it doesn't cut out Clark's plotline. Terrio discusses some of his changes to what Goyer must have wrote in this interview: https://archive.ph/DA2ou

Affleck is the one who brought in Terrio and probably essentially protected him until he and Snyder hit it off:

Can we start at the beginning with Zack? You worked on Batman v Superman. Can I assume that was a good experience, at least with him, since you signed on to another movie?
Ben [Affleck] called me and said that he was working on this film, which was a Superman film in which he was going to play Batman. So he asked if I would read the script and consider doing a rewrite. He asked if I would do some character work. So it was already determined and storyboarded that Batman was going to be trying to kill Superman and that Batman was going to have gone down a dark road. He was branding criminals, and it had certain dark elements that were nonnegotiable and already in the story.

What did Affleck want you to do?
My job was to create a story and a tone, really, in which Batman could be that person, and in which two heroes could get to the point where they’re fighting to the death.

What was your approach?
I came into it thinking the only way that this could work is as a fever dream or as a revenge tragedy. I thought, How do we create a story in which Bruce Wayne is traumatized by the war of Krypton coming to Earth, and in which he enters into this kind of madness? He becomes Captain Ahab, and he won’t listen to saner voices, like Alfred, for example, who are telling him to just see reason. He’s a man possessed.

You can see in some of the SnyderCon panel stuff that Terrio and Affleck had basically the same idea for Batfleck and that's why Affleck threw his weight around to bring him in for both BvS and the then Batfleck movie. They really took seriously the idea of what would an older Batman really be like mentally and personality wise since he's had as much, if not more, trauma since becoming Batman as he had from his parents killing.

BUT the overall arc of the five films was Snyder:
1. Superman becomes known to the world through Zod. (Man of Steel)
2. Luthor manipulates Bruce into trying to kill Superman, who dies a hero, while Bruce also discovers the other heroes. (BvS)
3. Steppenwolf signals the existence of Darkseid, Bruce and Diana gather the others and bring Superman back to life to form the Justice League. (ZSJL)
4. Justice League fights Luthor's Legion of Doom, Darkseid arrives, kills Lois and corrupts Superman then kills Diana. (JL part 2)
5. In the post-Anti-Life Nightmare, Batman forms the group seen in epilogue of ZSJL who does some stuff to have Flash send a message back in time so that Bruce sacrifices himself in Lois' place. (Bruce not having told anyone what he intends to do.) Her son (depending on the version the son is either Clark's or Bruce's) late becomes the new Batman and that later Justice League ushers in a new utopia or some shit. (JL part 3)

The storyboards of the original plan (when it was four, not five films) that some fans colored and put together with readable text can be seen at: https://online.fliphtml5.com/yjyao/nvio/

I obviously liked BvS (Ultimate) at the time but ZSJL made me love it after you can see the next part of Bruce's (and Diana) character arc. He's come back from the brink of madness in BvS and has to become a leader to a team in order to even have a chance against Darkseid. As he says multiple times to Alfred, he has to have faith in them and especially Clark, or everything he's done with his life is worthless. There are no heirs (not even Robin's), there is no family, Gotham will wash away his "legacy" as Batman in no time, Darkseid is an actual evil god, etc. He thought saving the world from Superman was it, but it's putting his faith in Superman and others (including the Joker and Deathstroke) to fight a greater and true evil. (And obviously, Snyder makes him sacrifice as the last step in copying the plotline of Excalibur.)

[Potato]

This looks amazing

[Polident]

Losers talking about superhero movies!

Anyway, somebody spoiled that Metal Sonic is in Sonic the Hedgehog 4 before I had the chance to watch Sonic the Hedgehog 3. Fuming. Shaking.

[Polident]

Sonic 3

Something like 90% of this movie feels like ultimate fan service to Sonic fans. At least I’m assuming. You have Shadow riding a motorcycle shooting a gun. You have the ending of Sonic Adventure 2 recreated with Crush 40 on the soundtrack. You have a Chao Garden. Minimal humans with the exception of Jim Carrey playing two characters. There’s a choreographed dance scene between both Jim Carrey characters set to chemical brothers. And Super Sonic fighting Shadow being a homage to Superman vs Zod in Man of Steel was unexpected. They flat out use the same shots at points. Entertaining.

[DavidCroquet]

This looks amazing

It was...interesting. Definitely a thinker. I was expecting something I dunno...more popcorn cutesy.

I went to the bathroom afterward and while I was in there I overheard a dad comforting his 3-4 year old son who was crying as he recounted several specific scenes. The fact that it was able to provoke such an emotional response from a kid that small with no dialogue (and a lot of ambiguity) really impressed me.

It's not scary or gory or anything like that. In fact, even the sad parts are played pretty low-key.

[Potato]

That makes me even more keen to see it.

[DavidCroquet]

Losers talking about superhero movies!

Anyway, somebody spoiled that Metal Sonic is in Sonic the Hedgehog 4 before I had the chance to watch Sonic the Hedgehog 3. Fuming. Shaking.

The pop off in my theater when the other spoiler character surprised me. 

Like, I have historically known that character to be the sort of tipping point into "Sonic's stupid fucking friends" territory for many years. Now I fully expect people shitting and crying with excitement when it turns out Froggy is the post-credits reveal character in Sonic 5.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

How can Sonic get video game movies so right while all other films get them so wrong?!

[chronovore]

(…)(And obviously, Snyder makes him sacrifice as the last step in copying the plotline of Excalibur.)

Wow, that's a lot of information, thanks! 

BTW, I was pretty sure Snyder was aping Excalibur when Superman impales Doomsday, Doomsday impales Superman right back, and then Supes PULLS THE SPIKE FURTHER INTO HIMSELF so he can get an extra deep stab on Doomsday. "Come, father. Let us embrace…" Thanks for confirming Snyder is cribbing hard from superior films.

[chronovore]

Still disappointed we never got a solo Batfleck flim.

Probably not as disappointed as Ben Affleck, but yeah. I am too.

[Snoopy]

Stupid pirate version of Anora didn't have subtitles. WTF. Now I'll have to wait until it's streaming. Fuck you Trump. This would never have happened under Biden.

[killamajig]

https://yifysubtitles.ch/movie-imdb/tt28607951

[Nintex]

I watched Aquaman and the Last Kingdom.

What a weird movie, it's like half of it was rewritten(?) to placate certain cast members and avoid specific interactions between them.

[benji]

(…)(And obviously, Snyder makes him sacrifice as the last step in copying the plotline of Excalibur.)

Wow, that's a lot of information, thanks! 

BTW, I was pretty sure Snyder was aping Excalibur when Superman impales Doomsday, Doomsday impales Superman right back, and then Supes PULLS THE SPIKE FURTHER INTO HIMSELF so he can get an extra deep stab on Doomsday. "Come, father. Let us embrace…" Thanks for confirming Snyder is cribbing hard from superior films.

He also did that one podcast talking about it and Blue Velvet: https://art19.com/shows/movies-that-changed-my-life/episodes/d36bed6d-96b5-4c40-940d-5215cc48ba66

[Snoopy]

https://yifysubtitles.ch/movie-imdb/tt28607951

Yeah, but I've become so entitled that if there's subs all the way through a film instead of just the foreign parts. That's it. I'm done. I won't put up with it. It's unprofessional. 



Anyway. We watched Baker's Red Rocket. That was pretty great. Not as good as Tangerine, but it was a good time.

[killamajig]

https://yifysubtitles.ch/movie-imdb/tt28607951

Yeah, but I've become so entitled that if there's subs all the way through a film instead of just the foreign parts. That's it. I'm done. I won't put up with it. It's unprofessional. 



Anyway. We watched Baker's Red Rocket. That was pretty great. Not as good as Tangerine, but it was a good time.

Yeah, I watched it because of these hacks...

they were right, it was pretty good.

[Potato]

Finally got around to watching Blade Runner 2049.

Villeneuve is such a good director. Hoping Amazon doesn't fuck up the 2099 series.