Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)
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Trump tells Harris I'll see your one genocide and raise you one more within the first 10 days I am in office

don't fucking even conflate the numbers of dead in Gaza with first world trans "genocide". Infuriating.  Hmph
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Anybody know some good conspiracy forums that are fun to read? Tinfoil
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(01-28-2025, 11:27 PM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: Anybody know some good conspiracy forums that are fun to read? Tinfoil


Arsenal fans are always good for some wildly belligerent paranoia
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(01-28-2025, 11:27 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Trump tells Harris I'll see your one genocide and raise you one more within the first 10 days I am in office

don't fucking even conflate the numbers of dead in Gaza with first world trans "genocide". Infuriating.  Hmph
Also erasure of the ongoing Indigenous and Black genocides in Amerikkka.
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(01-28-2025, 11:27 PM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: Anybody know some good conspiracy forums that are fun to read? Tinfoil
https://realrawnews.com/ has comments.

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(01-28-2025, 11:35 PM)benji wrote:
(01-28-2025, 11:27 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: Trump tells Harris I'll see your one genocide and raise you one more within the first 10 days I am in office

don't fucking even conflate the numbers of dead in Gaza with first world trans "genocide". Infuriating.  Hmph
Also erasure of the ongoing Indigenous and Black genocides in Amerikkka.

You think white liberals care about that?  lol
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don't fucking even conflate the numbers of dead in Gaza with

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14.88 price. Every pillow MUST go!
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Kyuuji, https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-signs-eo-banning-under-19-gender-affirming-care.1094301/#post-135001476 wrote:Fucking monsters. Isn't a grave deep enough for this evil and everyone complicit in it.

Quote:(ii) within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) shall publish a review of the existing literature on best practices for promoting the health of children who assert gender dysphoria, rapid-onset gender dysphoria, or other identity-based confusion.
The Cass Review will be the only thing they care to pay attention to won't it.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-considers-making-netflix-users-pay-license-fee-to-fund-bbc.1093950/

This is the REAL fucking news. You got a license for that TV?

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(01-28-2025, 11:47 PM)Gameboy Nostalgia wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-considers-making-netflix-users-pay-license-fee-to-fund-bbc.1093950/
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Quote:Norway too. I haven't heard anyone complain about it since, but everyone complained before the change.
How transphobic are your national broadcasters?
TheEchosOfTheCyborg wrote:Let's not forget that their news has a long history of showing their arses in the name of "balance" (which always seems to be in favour or anti-science), whether it was their absolutely shoddy handling of Climate Change or their constant pushing and support of Andrew Wakefield (and the de-humanizing of Autistic people) during the MMR scare.
Quote:They've been very pro-Israel too.
TheEchosOfTheCyborg wrote:
Quote:It's an interesting contradiction with how left wing economically this largely middle-class forum actually is when it comes round to 'yeah, you might have to pay some tax to fund this public infrastructure' rather than some nebulous billionaire solving every problem.

Even if you, quite rightly, take issue with the BBCs reporting, especially on the likes of LGBT rights, the news wing still makes up less than 10% of the yearly budget (e.g. in 2022-23 https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/BBC-DO-2022-23.pdf , News and Current Affairs £342mn of the total £4,442mn broadcasting expenditure) , should everything else the BBC does be tossed to the kerb because one segment of the business is in desperate need of reform (and I suppose following the logic to its endpoint, that part should be defunded rather than fixed?). Accepting "Nah, defund it, we can't fix it" is a dangerously, deliberately tory induced line of thought that they built towards over the last decade and a half and I just can't support it.

So nah, even though I literally don't even own a TV, I'm more than willing to put my (tax) money where my mouth is and say a national broadcaster is the right thing to do and that the public in general should expect to pay for it (not that I have a choice in Germany, lol). There are discussions to be had about the form of taxation that a fixed fee per household isn't the right way to do things given that it's disproportionately affecting lower incomes, but that's not the kind of discussion being suggested by the various posts of "go fuck yourself, lol".
https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/07/04/bbc-pride-news-staff-protests/
https://www.thepinknews.com/2020/07/30/bbc-pride-trans-hate-campaign-mermaids-action-line-transphobia-gender-trust/

And that's not even getting into the amount of support BBC presenters have supported the like of Rowling and have supported Transphobia.

So kindly not tell me to fund an organization that has repeatedly made it clear what they think of me. And given the state of the Labour government right now, no fucking way is this getting reformed or fixed under their regime.
Kyuuji wrote:If you need to rely upon the people you're content to paint as sexual predators and propagandise against in order to stay afloat then I'd call that a pretty idiotic plan.
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Quote:They've been very pro-Israel too.
Full mask off this time round aswell.

I have no interest in funding this organisation, let it find it's own funding or let it die.
Messofanego wrote:Nah, BBC can die off for all I care.

More wisdom:
Quote:Make it a non-profit that survives based on donations, like Wikipedia.

Quote:Maybe have Netflix pay for it and make it a law that it is forbidden to pass the cost to consumers?
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-signs-eo-banning-under-19-gender-affirming-care.1094301/#post-135001335 wrote:so many kids are gonna end up dead now 😭
Quote:If it was legal to say certain phrases, a lot of people would be saying those phrases
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Quote:The Cass Review will be the only thing they care to pay attention to won't it.
Well the Cass Review is "real science"! 
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The Cass Review is fucking garbage
Quote:suicide rate wasnt high enough huh

i feel so very much hate
Quote:Ah yes confusion, the ol buzzword.

Unsure if you're straight? Unsure if you're dysphoric? Wrong! You're just confused, it will pass. If it doesn't, well, that's what the camps have been for already. They'll beat or torture convince you that you WERE confused.

We have dozens of stories of troubled youth camps and that's the exact kind of shit they want to use to "help" "confused" people.

Not trained psychologists though, nah. I weep for my trans friends, tears my heart out.
Speedstersonic wrote:I have no words that i can say here.

If anyone ever needs a place to hide or help or to talk around the DC area, i am here

Fucking evil beyond evil
Quote:Call your people. Bring them in.

Protect your necks.
Quote:US government interfering in people's lives. Typical Republicommies.
What's the suicide rate for trans kids versus cis kids of the same gender and, statistically, how does gender affirming care affect it? Society

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Here's why they're stupid and nobody should listen to them: they're completely ignorant of how that single question completely stacks the deck against them based on basic decades old well accepted psychological research.
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Quote:Not sure why we need to try and find every single thing from years ago to try and tear people down.

Actually posted by Jeff Marvel. I assume he's had a stroke


https://www.resetera.com/threads/hudson-thames-peter-parker-spider-man-on-%E2%80%98your-friendly-neighborhood-spider-man%E2%80%99-%E2%80%9Cmy-biggest-fear-was-that-it-was-gonna-be-annoying-and-woke%E2%80%9D.1093830/page-5#post-134997135
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-seems-like-an-activision-blizzard-employee-is-sending-screenshots-of-internal-slack-messages-to-right-wing-twitter-users-to-encourage-harassment.1094319/

Lefties leak right-leaning chats to lefties: "Bigots at company EXPOSED by brave whistleblower!"

Righties leak left-leaning chats to righties: "Some cowardly BIGOT is secretly doxxing innocent company employees to encourage HARASSMENT!"
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(01-28-2025, 11:59 PM)Snoopy wrote:
Quote:Not sure why we need to try and find every single thing from years ago to try and tear people down.

Actually posted by Jeff Marvel. I assume he's had a stroke


https://www.resetera.com/threads/hudson-thames-peter-parker-spider-man-on-%E2%80%98your-friendly-neighborhood-spider-man%E2%80%99-%E2%80%9Cmy-biggest-fear-was-that-it-was-gonna-be-annoying-and-woke%E2%80%9D.1093830/page-5#post-134997135

If it's something he likes then they CAN'T be chuds. See Linkin Parks new singer.
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Quote:Whoever leaked this should be buried under the jail,
Quote:Well I hope they get caught soon and get every legal action possible taken against them. Even in this version of the US justice system, leaking internal communication has to be a major offense that ABK will take very seriously.
Quote:An internal leak of PII can be a major issue for ABK / MS. If it was me I'd be looking at legal advice to take action against them.
Quote:Nah, find this person and punch them in the fucking throat. Tired of playing nice with these fuckheads.
Wut 

They're stupid Slack messages:
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(01-28-2025, 11:59 PM)PogiJones wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-seems-like-an-activision-blizzard-employee-is-sending-screenshots-of-internal-slack-messages-to-right-wing-twitter-users-to-encourage-harassment.1094319/

Lefties leak right-leaning chats to lefties: "Bigots at company EXPOSED by brave whistleblower!"

Righties leak left-leaning chats to righties: "Some cowardly BIGOT is secretly doxxing innocent company employees to encourage HARASSMENT!"

Well? Where's the messages?  Hmph
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(01-29-2025, 12:08 AM)benji wrote:
Quote:Whoever leaked this should be buried under the jail,
Quote:Well I hope they get caught soon and get every legal action possible taken against them. Even in this version of the US justice system, leaking internal communication has to be a major offense that ABK will take very seriously.
Quote:An internal leak of PII can be a major issue for ABK / MS. If it was me I'd be looking at legal advice to take action against them.
Quote:Nah, find this person and punch them in the fucking throat. Tired of playing nice with these fuckheads.
Wut 

They're stupid Slack messages:

That's it?  lol
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I don't know if there's other "leaked" messages, that was what GameDeveloper linked in the story.

The story says this:
Quote:Activision Senior QA tester Sam Hudson appeared to confirm the ongoing harassment in a post on LinkedIn on January 25 and stated several of their colleagues had been "doxxed."

"This employee took screenshots of ABK wide discussions about the safety of our protected information (like name changes and visa statuses) and sent them to an an extremely racist, sexist, and transphobic individual on Twitter who has over a 100 thousand followers," they added.

"It is even more dangerous to be trans or an immigrant at Activision now apparently, as someone who works with us has no problems doxxing people."
But it's obviously referring not to any employee information but the message in the original tweet:
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The claims of harassment and "doxxing" seem to be based on nothing other than the images showing people's names.
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I can't believe Benji works for Blizzard.
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(01-29-2025, 12:16 AM)benji wrote:
Quote:Activision Senior QA tester Sam Hudson
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Quote:At work, I have also been an Inclusive Game Design Ambassador for the past year and a half. I have researched and created documents for various projects as an IGD Ambassador. I have also been part of the ABK wide LGBTQIA+ leadership team, and have successfully lead two pride celebrations at the Austin Activision QA office. Last year, with collaborative efforts, I was able to get ABK into Austin Pride’s festival as a booth for the first time ever which greatly increased company visibility and showed ABK’s support of the Queer community. At my office I am also part of the Employee Engagement Committee and have helped collaborate and create various events in the office for my coworkers to celebrate and enjoy. Since working at ABK, I have worked on many COD games and gotten experience in many avenues. I could not do all of this without the amazing support of my coworkers, leadership (looking at you Adrian Ledda and Alayna Cole), as well as amazing managers (Jake Insinna especially).

Imagine if ResetERA.com dedicated itself to digging into the reporting and claims made around the gaming industry with an eye on skepticism of all dominant narratives instead of rushing to the same easy to predict mindless screeching that buys into whatever any idiot says that confirms what they don't need any evidence to already always know.
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Climate breakdown thread gets a pin and the trans genocide thread doesn't? Yikes
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(01-29-2025, 12:32 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: Climate breakdown thread gets a pin and the trans genocide thread doesn't? Yikes

Because trans genocide threads are counter productive!  Hmph
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(01-29-2025, 12:32 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: Climate breakdown thread gets a pin
Great sign when the thread starts off with something false:
Quote:Before we begin, a gentle reminder that climate scientists back and call for disruptive action from the public and if you read their reports, you will see how increasingly radical they're becoming with their language.
Then immediately posts a graph that debunks his central claim:
Quote:Let's start with something I'm sure most of us are probably at least passively aware of.

1.5 Degrees
You have probably seen the news that in 2024 we breached the 1.5 degree of warming climate target that we had collectively agreed to try and avoid.
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You can see more clearly in the second image that not only did we breach it, we were over the limit for almost the entire year.
This graph shows it's clearly an outlier year versus every other year ever but the one before and so much of one that you should not take it as any meaningful information. Look at the fucking gap between the second half of the year and every year ever before! Yet this is the crux of the rest of the entire post.

Then it ends by admitting it's all propaganda and not actually anything to do with nature or science or physics:
Quote:I'm aware I haven't even begun to talk about this in relation to the realities of politics or class/wealth yet, the fires in LA or the floods in Valencia, as well as many other things such as the media, technology and overshoot in both it's definitions. The food industry, ocean acidification. Christ it's never ending. I will try and add things when I can so potentially much more to come depending on if/when I get round to it and how this goes I guess. Short version though is our lives and lifestyles are soon going to be changing. We might not like it, you might not want to talk about it, but Nature and physics don't give a fuck. This is just the beginning.

Call in the non-skeptics who believe any doomer propaganda they see because it confirms their self-loathing of humanity and don't give a shit about actual science or data:
Lord Fanny wrote:I appreciate the effort you put into all this, but to be frank, if the intention was to educate people who demonize JSO, then I think you've wasted your time. The kind of people who say stuff like JSO being just as bad as climate change deniers or whatever aren't going to be swayed by facts and figures. It's more about ideology and/or denial than them misunderstanding something.

If you just wanted to put together concise details about how we're all fucked and there's no hope then I mean, you did well there I suppose lol
Quote:What can one do individually? Because this triggers my anxiety on a major level but I don't know what to do other than despair :(
Quote:I went from the desperation phase to complete dissociation somehow. Same thing with politics, maybe it's the medicine working.
Nepenthe wrote:
Quote:What can one do individually? Because this triggers my anxiety on a major level but I don't know what to do other than despair :(
Organize your local community to look for potential issues that could be exacerbated by climate change, and to get your community as green and self-sufficient as possible.

Or if you have little to nothing to lose, direct action and sabotage of fossil fuel infrastructure.
DRINK HEAD TO TOE SOUL PLAYA 

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Quote:What can one do individually? Because this triggers my anxiety on a major level but I don't know what to do other than despair :(
For legal purposes and purposes of not ending up the subject of moderation on here - I'm not saying sabotage.

But as things start to get more dire, we'll probably see more instances of sabotage.
Quote:It's chilling when you stop and think of how drastically wildlife has dropped over the past few decades - and just in places visible to us, in human-adjacent areas. Less birds, less bugs, less everything. And thats just a prelude.

I don't think there's any political action that's really unjustified when it comes to climate change, but even if we slammed on the breaks now it's be too late. We need to start thinking in terms of preparing for an apocalypse rather than preventing it - on a personal level, community level, global level. Everything else is shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Quote:Would add confronting pension, university funds and institutional investors that have salted away money on fossil fuel-dependent industries.
That too. Honestly though, we should've been set up shop outside of the houses of these oil barons.
Quote:I spend every day feeling obscenely guilty for having kids and forcing them into this mess of a world.
Quote:Serious question. Should we still invest in our 401k then? At one point do we think all the stocks will crash?
Quote:One analogy that has always scared me and at the same time comforted me is the idea of the climate casino. Think of the climate system as dice.

Within the climate systems there is still some random chance at play---what climate change does is change the way those dice are weighted--every little bit of warming means a higher chance of heatwaves, drought, etc.

However, it doesn't just mean that warming makes things worse or more likely to be bad. It also means that whatever steps you take to keep things from getting worse means a small chance of something bad not happening.

So maybe, just maybe, the things I do to slow down the degradation is that slight difference needed to avoid certain disasters. Or at least, that's how I stay motivated to do things.
This is an incredibly stupid analogy for a complex self-regulating system. SCIENCE! 
Quote:Sooner or later we'll all have little to nothing to lose. And I fear we're all in denial about how close that time really is.
Quote:Yep. Speaking for myself, but even though I intellectually know things are really fucking bad, I am in still in denial on many levels. It's the only way I can keep functioning without surrendering to complete and utter despair.
OP wrote:I've added the trigger warning back to the OP. Some top posts already, I've not read that new report on degrowth yet. Thanks for sharing Booshka.
Booshka wrote:
Quote:https://decarbonization.visualcapitalist.com/global-co2-emissions-through-time-1950-2022/

I mean if the developing countries can just keep polluting, the changes we make barely matter.
This isn't true, per capita emissions of global south countries are way less than the countries in the north, and the extraction/exploitation that the north does to the south contributes heavily to emissions and unequal exchange. The world needs climate reparations for the countries that have been ravaged by colonialism and fossil capitalism. Developing countries can build up dirty while getting renewable infrastructure online, and northern countries can reduce their emissions and resource strain while also pivoting to renewables.

The problem is the profit motive, oil and gas is more profitable than renewables, so that's where the investments are going. Corporations have to be forced to pivot their investments and production, they can't be allowed to live by the whims of the profit motive.
Orayn wrote:It's not looking good for us.
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Quote:Per capita is meaningless as it's total co2 pumped into the atmosphere that matters.

The fact of the matter is, if everyone were as rich as the developed world we'd be swamped. This is just the small print that's always sidestepped.
It's literally not sidestepped, the paper I linked speaks directly on this. Not everyone from the global south needs to live like a gas guzzling Costco loving American, but more importantly, neither do Americans.
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Quote:Absolutely it is sidestepped. China's per capita GDP is about 1/5 of the US, it's a middle income country , it's emmssions are already double that of the US due to its population and that's with half a decade of stagnant growth. India is the next one If it were to grow to about half as rich as China in the next 20 years, we'd be borked without major cuts elsewhere. (e.g. the developed world)

Maybe Musk and his bozos will move to Mars by then and reduce emissions, more than likely there will be revolution long before that happens.
Where does the world get all its stuff from, who makes it? It's not just their population, that's Malthusian nonsense. There are much larger and more complex systems at play for why China is emitting more than the US, even while it gets ahead of a host of renewables targets well before the rest of the world does. The per capita GDP number of China is actually a good indicator because it is around 12,000 USD and they have good human development indices, so it shows a way forward to not tie GDP with quality of life.
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(01-28-2025, 11:46 PM)benji wrote:
Kyuuji, https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-signs-eo-banning-under-19-gender-affirming-care.1094301/#post-135001476 wrote:Fucking monsters. Isn't a grave deep enough for this evil and everyone complicit in it.

Quote:(ii) within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) shall publish a review of the existing literature on best practices for promoting the health of children who assert gender dysphoria, rapid-onset gender dysphoria, or other identity-based confusion.
The Cass Review will be the only thing they care to pay attention to won't it.

Isnt that the whole point of Cass Review? To indicate there is little real scientific studies about how to treat gender dysphoria?
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(01-29-2025, 12:53 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Isnt that the whole point of Cass Review? To indicate there is little real scientific studies about how to treat gender dysphoria?
You forget that the Cass Review is "debunked" and "garbage" as is any other review that comes to the same conclusions to date or in the future. This is settled science and not to be questioned.
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For posterity, and the comedy of the guy afraid of being banned for saying to commit terrorism like Nepenthe did:
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As she drives her shit class Nissan around her expensive suburb "stop fossil fuel!"
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Nep Guevara wrote:Or if you have little to nothing to lose, direct action and sabotage of fossil fuel infrastructure.

You first, NepNep.
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The Cass Report has been utterly discredited and you have been blocked and reported.
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