Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/donald-trump-is-the-47th-president-of-the-united-states.1028550/page-43#post-131270796

User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia

Her position on Palestine was terrible.

The world will be lucky to still have a Palestine or Gaza Strip in 4 years. Trump and the GOP will arm Israel unconditionally.

Maybe democrats will actually learn from this election, right... right? Just shameful to lose to this guy twice now. Run on good policy and not orange man bad. Show how your policies will make things better not how the other guy will makes things worse.

Maybe.

I've become pretty furious with the progressive wing of the Democrats, and judging by the Proposition 36 result in California, I doubt I'm the only one. "Defund the police" was a branding shitshow.




Democrats need to be able to easily, confidentially, and unilaterally say things like:

We will enforce drug laws for cocaine, fentanyl, meth, prescription painkillers, etc.

We will enforce anti-gang laws, including retail theft and car theft, and will jail offenders as the law requires.

We will enforce immigration laws, including the deportation process, and believe our country should have a border. We can't let everyone in.

We want women's sports to be reserved for people born into a woman's body. Sports exist to inspire us. They show us what the human body and mind are capable of when pushed to their limits. Dividing based on birth sex protects that spark of inspiration.

We think that guns are inherently bad for society, or at best, neutral. Assault weapons should be banned.

We think the wealth gap is a long-term problem that will require government intervention.

We are the party of freedom. We will protect your right to vote, right to bodily autonomy, and right to do what's best for your children.

Gotta love how the radioactive unpopular position that only matters to a vanishingly small minority needs to be a ride or die plank for an entire party.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-presidential-house-senate-elections-were-n%CC%B5o%CC%B5t%CC%B5-going-back.1026573/page-306#post-131305428

It's not that the broader left can't win, it's that we constantly get caught up in these larger arguments instead of focusing in on the actual problem.

Think about it this way: You have a flat tire due to a pothole and you're stuck on the side of a highway with no cell and a broken jack. Two people pull up and offer you help. One of them talks about how we're not doing enough to fix potholes and need to spend more on infrastructure so it can last, while the other offers to call his brother's tow truck and stick you with a bill you can't pay. Which one are you going to pick to help? One of them offers a real solution (albeit a shitty one) and the other is pushing a longer-term solution that won't actually help you right that moment. Instead of talking about infrastructure we should be offering to help change the damn tire!

It's not that the policies are bad, it's that we get caught up in coming up with these big, transformative solutions to broader problems that we forget to fix the immediate issue. That's why something like the affordable care act worked so well: it didn't take a generation and people saw the positive results almost immediately. It's why AOC keeps her seat despite monied interests trying to get her out: she talks about the broader issues, but is focused on the immediate problems of her constituents and helping them with those problems.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-presidential-house-senate-elections-were-n%CC%B5o%CC%B5t%CC%B5-going-back.1026573/page-307#post-131306433

Good analogy, but also when the brother shows up, he punctures your other tires.

Honestly, yeah. The point is one side pretends to help and the other is so lost in the ideology of the thing that it amounts to no help at all. It's like, imagine running for the mayor of Gotham City and not having anything to say about the Joker or the Mafia and instead you talk generational fixes like poverty and education. You're absolutely correct that those are the underlying causes, but you're still going to lose because you're not fixing the immediate issue. That's the collective left in the US at the moment: right about the larger issues but ignoring the immediate problem and losing as a result.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Excuse me while I continue to shame everyone I know that decided not to vote because they "couldn't in good conscience vote for someone that supported genocide in Gaza."

Look the youth never fucking votes, but holy shit I'm going to bully the fuck out of them. Me trying to play nice didn't work so now I'm going to pester them with everything they have responsibility in.

I expect they'll block me after a while but hey, maybe they'll fucking think next time.

Michigan Muslims choose Hyper Genocide for Palestine, so have it.

Shaming non voters? ERA MODS, BAN THIS POSTER!

[Boredfrom]

It's not that the broader left can't win, it's that we constantly get caught up in these larger arguments instead of focusing in on the actual problem.

Why is Nepenthe a mod? Why are TransERA and HamasERa protected? 

These are your Joker and Gotham’s Mafia right there BCuck.

[DavidCroquet]

I'm actually surprised at how...calm? Era seems overall?

I thought there would be much more direct and hostile activity between HamasEra and other factions (that actually vote). I genuinely expected someone to come at Nep in a big way, specifically. 

Unless I missed it, I think--like with trans genocide--they're just sort of coming around to the fact that that all this angst is about something largely fictional.

[Potato]

4 years of this. I was looking forward to the riots and insurrections. Best we can hope for now is some funny memes.

Meanwhile Nep 

Framing this thread around progressive outreach to men is odd when it isn't a progressive that was on the ticket and lost.

(What isn't odd is the amount of people basically saying minorities need to stop being so mean to groups that oppress them.)

It also is ignoring the fact that- once again- white women broke for Trump too this time.

Ultimately, this ain't our fault. This is liberals' dumpster fire to sort out.

Please Democrats, please put a true Nep-approved progressive up next time. The disaster that was Jeremy Corbin will look like a fucking massive achievement in comparison.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-presidential-house-senate-elections-were-n%CC%B5o%CC%B5t%CC%B5-going-back.1026573/page-306#post-131305428

It's not that the broader left can't win, it's that we constantly get caught up in these larger arguments instead of focusing in on the actual problem.

Think about it this way: You have a flat tire due to a pothole and you're stuck on the side of a highway with no cell and a broken jack. Two people pull up and offer you help. One of them talks about how we're not doing enough to fix potholes and need to spend more on infrastructure so it can last, while the other offers to call his brother's tow truck and stick you with a bill you can't pay. Which one are you going to pick to help? One of them offers a real solution (albeit a shitty one) and the other is pushing a longer-term solution that won't actually help you right that moment. Instead of talking about infrastructure we should be offering to help change the damn tire!

It's not that the policies are bad, it's that we get caught up in coming up with these big, transformative solutions to broader problems that we forget to fix the immediate issue. That's why something like the affordable care act worked so well: it didn't take a generation and people saw the positive results almost immediately. It's why AOC keeps her seat despite monied interests trying to get her out: she talks about the broader issues, but is focused on the immediate problems of her constituents and helping them with those problems.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-presidential-house-senate-elections-were-n%CC%B5o%CC%B5t%CC%B5-going-back.1026573/page-307#post-131306433

Good analogy, but also when the brother shows up, he punctures your other tires.

Honestly, yeah. The point is one side pretends to help and the other is so lost in the ideology of the thing that it amounts to no help at all. It's like, imagine running for the mayor of Gotham City and not having anything to say about the Joker or the Mafia and instead you talk generational fixes like poverty and education. You're absolutely correct that those are the underlying causes, but you're still going to lose because you're not fixing the immediate issue. That's the collective left in the US at the moment: right about the larger issues but ignoring the immediate problem and losing as a result.

B-dubs you little shit, "It's not that the broader left can't win, it's that we constantly get caught up in these larger arguments instead of focusing in on the actual problem."? You literally posted the day of the election that you may not even vote in a thread where HamasEra cried about not wanting to be browbeat. You are the exact person you're posting about.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

The unironic stance of Resetera.

[Boredfrom]

I'm actually surprised at how...calm? Era seems overall?

I thought there would be much more direct and hostile activity between HamasEra and other factions (that actually vote). I genuinely expected someone to come at Nep in a big way, specifically. 

Unless I missed it, I think--like with trans genocide--they're just sort of coming around to the fact that that all this angst is about something largely fictional.

Reverse Buck Breaking.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I'm actually surprised at how...calm? Era seems overall?

I thought there would be much more direct and hostile activity between HamasEra and other factions (that actually vote). I genuinely expected someone to come at Nep in a big way, specifically. 

Unless I missed it, I think--like with trans genocide--they're just sort of coming around to the fact that that all this angst is about something largely fictional.

It's happening. The neolibs just don't have the balls to go into the HamasEra threads but they are making shots in the election threads.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-icj-orders-halt-to-israeli-offensive-on-rafah-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-429#post-131233002

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Ree factions are the equivalent of gif of those dogs that bark at each other through a barrier. Remove the barrier, they wouldn't dare.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Why do they always have such exotic names.  Lillith.  Aurora.  Seraphine.   Never Jennifer.

I would like to take this opportunity to announce that I am part of a system.

So in the coming days you may be hearing from my headmates Cool Girl, Hot Babe, and Autismo Retardo.

[BananaBlast]

I'm actually surprised at how...calm? Era seems overall?

I thought there would be much more direct and hostile activity between HamasEra and other factions (that actually vote). I genuinely expected someone to come at Nep in a big way, specifically. 

Unless I missed it, I think--like with trans genocide--they're just sort of coming around to the fact that that all this angst is about something largely fictional.

I feel the same way. Maybe some of them are probably realizing their woke insanity has helped things shape into the way the are now. Maybe some of them realize just how niche their viewpoints are. Maybe some of them feel some guilt for pressuring people to not vote for Kamala.

Maybe they really need a safe space in this time of need, and firing up the staff to the point where a mini civil war breaks out and the banhammer gets swung around more loosely probably wouldn't be the best idea.

That's not to say that some of them still aren't losing their minds for us all to see, but I feel they know better not to get too loud and disruptive, or else they'd risk a ban from their safe space.

[Uncle]

I'm actually surprised at how...calm? Era seems overall?

I thought there would be much more direct and hostile activity between HamasEra and other factions (that actually vote). I genuinely expected someone to come at Nep in a big way, specifically. 

Unless I missed it, I think--like with trans genocide--they're just sort of coming around to the fact that that all this angst is about something largely fictional.

Reverse Buck Breaking.

Buck Mending 

[benji]

[Boredfrom]

Thank god.

[Uncle]

everyone wanted to free palestine but nobody wanted to free jill-a-stein

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Starts here:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/donald-trump-is-the-47th-president-of-the-united-states.1028550/page-69#post-131303886

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://bsky.app/profile/zeovgm.bsky.social

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I don't know what to say.

I see the anger from women and LGBTQ friends, who are now living in fear.

Women's healthcare. Gay marriage. The ability for a trans person to simply exist. All in very real danger.

I'm so sorry.

But isn't this the end result of withholding votes from Kamala and protest voting third party? Are you really sorry now for cheerleading HamasEra on?

Maybe they thought Kamala had it in the bag and all of it was performative. Guess what, it wasn't. 

[HaughtyFrank]

Btw, it's now pages back, but didn't Zeo make an extra long tweet? Isn't that a feature you can only use if you pay for Twitter blue like a sucker?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Starts here:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/donald-trump-is-the-47th-president-of-the-united-states.1028550/page-69#post-131303886

Didn't the squad comfortably defend their seats? 

[D3RANG3D]

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

:DNC

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Grrr... I'm so mad, ima go on Twitter to bitch. Maybe Ree will finally detach from potential new Secretary of Social Media and Cool Shit's website, twitter.

Twitter usage is my baseline for any sort of activism. You still use it? You a faker.

[Ribosome]

I wouldn't underestimate the power of the machine. Low-information voters have to get their opinions from somewhere. You saw it with Biden and his age just a few months ago - despite how Trump's policy positions made no sense at all, MSM drilled down on how old and frail he looked, sparking the chain of events that ended in him dropping out.

lmao

[Taco Bell Tower]

Btw, it's now pages back, but didn't Zeo make an extra long tweet? Isn't that a feature you can only use if you pay for Twitter blue like a sucker?

Supposedly someone bought him the twitter blue..SUPPOSEDLY.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

TheEchosOfTheCyborg banned somewhere.

[benji]

checking in with friend noodlesoup

This is why the whole "end of democracy, Holocaust 2.0 starts immediately" talk is harmful. Look at that second post. noodlesoup is practically to his degree, until Palestine this was his entire life, he did all kinds of extracurriculars with this from this dating back pre-college, you can tell from his language how much he's into this. And he's ready to just give it all up forever because he believes a single election result means everything is worthless forever. And if you said "what about the importance for Environmental Science when the Democrats come back into power?" They'd scream THEY NEVER WILL BE ALLOWED TO, FASCISM IS HERE, THE CAMPS ARE ALREADY OPERATING!!!

This is problem with politics, to activate people you have to "raise the stakes" and the place to go then is to make every election (in reality, just Presidential elections, nobody cares about all the others even though we have a system of divided power) an existential zero-sum conflict. And that makes practical everyday politics impossible. Which eventually makes practical everyday life impossible. This is the actual lesson of the Weimar Republic and its collapse, but they aren't interested in that because it doesn't offer any fantastical solution like "if we just punched Hitler enough" or "we should scream at everyone to just do Basic Human Decency more." And those fantasies only contribute to the ratchet of degradation of actual democracy. This is the symptom Trump represents, his entire appeal is that he claims he can just make this all go away and settle all problems himself. (This was also Obama's claim, but nobody remembers.)

Hayek warned us. But he never got to analyzing it ideologically and psychologically to see why it happens.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kamala-harris-will-address-the-nation-at-4pm-est-from-howard-university.1029042/page-13#post-131305002

Royalan

This. This is who the speech was for.

Black women. Black women who knew her name
before any of you did. Black women who worried for her. Black women who within 24 hours organized and raised millions for her and set off a movement for her. Black women who aren't just gonna toss her away because she lost. Black women and Black PEOPLE who will build beyond her because of her.

That's who this is for.

And if you don't get it, you don't get it. And I feel sorry for you.

This fatty is the most cringe try-hard on a forum full of them.

[Venice]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/buy-those-books-they-don%E2%80%99t-want-you-to.1029372/

You know when a Democrat wins an election and suddenly Republicans go out and buy guns and ammo, fearing that they'll be taken away?

Do that. But for books. Spoil yourself. You need the retail therapy anyway.

Buy the books on slavery.
Buy the books on anti-racism, police brutality, assassinations of civil rights leaders.
Buy the books on human and civil rights.
Buy the LGTBQ+ books.
Buy the books on the freedom fighters and the activists and the revolutionaries.
Buy the memoirs of those leaders who fought for all of the above.
Buy the KIDS versions of these books especially.

Buy the books they will ban.

Buy books.

Don't let them burn them.

Edit: Top-of-the-Page MAGA babe doing her patriotic duty and celebrating her President's victory:

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I'm friends with lots of gays. Royalan wouldn't fit in with my gays. He's a loser.