Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[benji]

Look at this news story that does everything it can to avoid saying why they're withdrawing.

LAS VEGAS -- Boise State, which twice boycotted regular-season matches with San Jose State, pulled out of the Mountain West women's volleyball tournament Wednesday night even after securing a spot in the semifinals against the Spartans.

San Jose State, which received six forfeit victories because of boycotts from Mountain West opponents, is seeded second in the conference tournament and received a first-round bye. Now the Spartans will advance to Saturday's championship match rather than take the court Friday.

Boise State released a statement that read: "The decision to not continue to play in the 2024 Mountain West Volleyball Championship tournament was not an easy one. Our team overcame forfeitures to earn a spot in the tournament field and fought for the win over Utah State in the first round on Wednesday. They should not have to forgo this opportunity while waiting for a more thoughtful and better system that serves all athletes."

San Jose State said it would issue a statement Thursday.

Boise State's announcement came hours after the Broncos defeated Utah State 25-19, 18-25, 25-20, 25-23 in the quarterfinals.

Boise State didn't commit immediately after the match to playing San Jose State. What went into its decision to withdraw from the tournament was unclear, whether it was by a team vote or a university decision.

The title match probably will go on as scheduled. San Jose State will play either top-seeded Colorado State or No. 5 San Diego State. Both teams played the Spartans this season rather than forfeit.

Mountain West members Boise State, Wyoming, Utah State and Nevada as well as Southern Utah canceled matches this season against the Spartans. Nevada's players stated they "refuse to participate in any match that advances injustice against female athletes," without providing further details.

A lawsuit was recently filed in Colorado by players from various schools against the conference and San Jose State officials calling for a Spartans player to not be allowed to participate in the tournament, citing unspecified reports asserting there was a transgender player on the San Jose State volleyball team, even naming her.

U.S. Magistrate Judge S. Kato Crews in Denver ruled Monday that the player is allowed to play, and a federal appeals court upheld the decision the following day.

The volleyball player has not spoken about her identity, and San Jose State has not commented on her identity due to federal privacy laws. ESPN is not naming the player.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

The reality of the center is that they want extremists of both wings to shut up and fuck off. But because of the left rejecting anyone they think isn't as left as them, and the right being willing to embrace anyone with any common interest, we've got this stupid meme where the center are just nazi chuds that the left seems to think is an objective fact.

These morons will never learn.

[PogiJones]

HE IS NOT THE JEFF MENTIONED IN FIRST TWEET

Prove it

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-“sweet-baby-inc”-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-144

Is not clear, but it sounds like some kind of drama is brewing between Avellone and current Obsidian because some art director in Avowed was racist against white people (and ERA says you can’t be racist against yts)

Edit: Chris Avellone once again proving he's a worthless washed up drunk with a grudge who'll happily sell out his former coworkers for internet points.

Still not clear what he did. But is funny that they bitch about Grummz coordinating with others to create outrage… WHEN THEY DO THE SAME!

Seems to be this post, in response to the Obsidian Matt guy admitting to being a knobhead and potentially causing trouble to the studio.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/chrisavellone/status/1861842922766848510
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[benji]

The reality of the center is that they want extremists of both wings to shut up and fuck off. But because of the left rejecting anyone they think isn't as left as them, and the right being willing to embrace anyone with any common interest, we've got this stupid meme where the center are just nazi chuds that the left seems to think is an objective fact.
These morons will never learn.

Read some basic theory, chud, I've cited this before but you won't listen and start organizing:

FACT CHECK:

Firstly, it is not true that fascism is only the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins. Fascism is an informal political bloc of these two chief organisations; a bloc, which arose in the circumstances of the post-war crisis of imperialism, and which is intended for combating the proletarian revolution. The bourgeoisie cannot retain power without such a bloc. It would therefore be a mistake to think that “pacifism” signifies the liquidation of fascism. In the present situation, “pacifism” is the strengthening of fascism with its moderate, Social-Democratic wing pushed into the forefront.

During the progress of the international revolution, the leading cadres of the social democratic parties and of the reformist trade unions on the one hand, and the militant capitalist organisations of the Fascist type on the other, acquired special significance as a powerful counter-revolutionary force actively fighting against the revolution and actively supporting the partial stabilisation of capitalism.

...

In its systematic conduct of this counter-revolutionary policy, social democracy operates on two flanks. The right wing of social democracy, avowedly counter-revolutionary, is essential for negotiating and maintaining direct contact with the bourgeoisie; the left wing is essential for the subtle deception of the workers. While playing with pacifist and at times even with revolutionary phrases, “left” social democracy in practice acts against the workers, particularly in acute and critical situations (the British I.L.P. and the “left” leaders of the General Council during the general strike in 1926; Otto Bauer and Co., at the time of the Vienna uprising), and is therefore, the most dangerous faction in the social democratic parties. While serving the interests of the bourgeoisie in the working class and being wholly in favour of class co-operation and coalition with the bourgeoisie, social democracy, at certain periods, is compelled to play the part of an opposition party and even to pretend that it is defending the class interests of the proletariat in its industrial struggle. It tries thereby to win the confidence of a section of the working class and to be in a position more shamefully to betray the lasting interests of the working class, particularly in the midst of decisive class battles.

The principal function of social democracy at the present time is to disrupt the essential militant unity of the proletariat in its struggle against imperialism. In splitting and disrupting the united front of the proletarian struggle against capital, social democracy serves as the mainstay of imperialism in the working class. International social democracy of all shades; the Second International and its trade union branch, the Amsterdam Federation of Trade Unions, have thus become the last reserve of bourgeois society and its most reliable pillar of support.

Side by side with social democracy, with whose aid the bourgeoisie suppresses the workers or lulls their class vigilance, stands Fascism.

...

The bourgeoisie resorts either to the method of Fascism or to the method of coalition with social democracy according to the changes in the political situation; while social democracy itself, often plays a Fascist role in periods when the situation is critical for capitalism.

In the process of development social democracy reveals Fascist tendencies which, however, do not prevent it, in other political situations, from acting as a sort of Fronde against the bourgeois government in the capacity of an opposition party. The Fascist method and the method of coalition with social democracy, are not the methods usually employed in “normal” capitalist conditions; they are the symptoms of the general capitalist crisis, and are employed by the bourgeoisie in order to stem the advance of the revolution.

[Uncle]

The reality of the center is that they want extremists of both wings to shut up and fuck off. But because of the left rejecting anyone they think isn't as left as them, and the right being willing to embrace anyone with any common interest, we've got this stupid meme where the center are just nazi chuds that the left seems to think is an objective fact.

These morons will never learn.

also, not to defend or advocate for the pointy hat people at all, but I don't think it does your argument any favors when you have to strawman your opponents

it's bad enough to just plainly state what they actually wanted, which was black people to leave their communities and "security for the white race" or whatever, killing for the sake of it wasn't the actual goal, likewise an idiot could misrepresent the other side by saying they wanted to kill whitey

[benji]

The biggest flaw with the comic is that it depicts the conflict as purely between two groups with personal interest (and one single idiot) ignoring the great masses who had no personal interest in it and actual control over what the decision would be.

Also the implication that it must be an all-encompassing single decision for all time.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

The reality of the center is that they want extremists of both wings to shut up and fuck off. But because of the left rejecting anyone they think isn't as left as them, and the right being willing to embrace anyone with any common interest, we've got this stupid meme where the center are just nazi chuds that the left seems to think is an objective fact.
These morons will never learn.

Read some basic theory

[Rendle]

Trans women have a demonstrated disadvantage in sports, which is why they should make a seperate category for trans and gender-nonconforming people. Otherwise how will these trans athletes even stand a chance.

[benji]

You realize it's going to be mandatory after everyone organizes and the Revolution happens, right?

[Greatness Gone]

Really hope that mf at Obsidian gets fired. I can imagine he just made their marketing team’s job unnecessarily harder. 

Obsidian has never completely missed for me aside from Outer Worlds, I’m looking forward to Avowed. 

[HardcoreRetro]

Obsidian retard: "Damn, I'm really owning Musk"

*Musk at home clicking the same four skills in Diablo 4*



*looks over at his second monitor*

"Rocket go brrrr!"

[benji]

Being too lazy to get a job doesn't make you economically disenfranchised. It just makes you a lazy cunt.

You sound like this far-right chud:

This slovenliness, this carelessness, untidiness, unpunctuality, nervous haste, the inclination to substitute discussion for action, talk for work, the inclination to undertake everything under the sun without finishing anything, are characteristics of the "educated"; and this is not due to the fact that they are bad by nature, still less is it due to their evil will; it is due to all their habits of life, the conditions of their work, to fatigue, to the abnormal separation of mental from manual labor, and so on, and so forth.

Among the mistakes, shortcomings and defects of our revolution a by no means unimportant place is occupied by the mistakes, etc., which are due to these deplorable—but at present inevitable—characteristics of the intellectuals in our midst, and to the lack of sufficient supervision by the workers over the organisational work of the intellectuals.

The workers and peasants are still "timid"; they must get rid of this timidity, and they certainty will get rid of it. We cannot dispense with the advice, the instruction of educated people, of intellectuals and specialists. Every sensible worker and peasant understands this perfectly well, and the intellectuals in our midst cannot complain of a lack of attention and comradely respect on the part of the workers and peasants. Advice and instruction, however, is one thing, and the organisation of practical accounting and control is another. Very often the intellectuals give excellent advice and instruction, but they prove to be ridiculously, absurdly, shamefully "unhandy" and incapable of carrying out this advice and instruction, of exercising practical control over the translation of words into deeds.

...

everyone to work conscientiously; not a single rogue (including those who shirk their work) to be allowed to be at liberty, but kept in prison, or serve his sentence of compulsory labour of the hardest kind; not a single rich man who violates the laws and regulations of socialism to be allowed to escape the fate of the rogue, which should, in justice, be the fate of the rich man. "He who does not work, neither shall he eat"—this is the practical commandment of socialism. This is how things should be organised practically. These are the practical successes our "communes" and our worker and peasant organisers should be proud of. And this applies particularly to the organisers among the intellectuals (particularly, because they are too much, far too much in the habit of being proud of their general instructions and resolutions).

Thousands of practical forms and methods of accounting and controlling the rich, the rogues and the idlers must be devised and put to a practical test by the communes themselves, by small units in town and country. Variety is a guarantee of effectiveness here, a pledge of success in achieving the single common aim—to clean the land of Russia of all vermin, of fleas—the rogues, of bugs—the rich, and so on and so forth. In one place half a score of rich, a dozen rogues, half a dozen workers who shirk their work (in the manner of rowdies, the manner in which many compositors in Petrograd, particularly in the Party printing-shops, shirk their work) will be put in prison. In another place they will be put to cleaning latrines. In a third place they will be provided with "yellow tickets" after they have served their time, so that everyone shall keep an eye on them, as harmful persons, until they reform. In a fourth place, one out of every ten idlers will be shot on the spot. In a fifth place mixed methods may be adopted, and by probational release, for example, the rich, the bourgeois intellectuals, the rogues and rowdies who are corrigible will be given an opportunity to reform quickly. The more variety there will be, the better and richer will be our general experience, the more certain and rapid will be the success of socialism, and the easier will it be for practice to devise—for only practice can devise—the best methods and means of struggle.

the prime, basic and root principle of socialism: “He who does not work, neither shall he eat.” “He who does not work, neither shall he eat”—every toiler understands that. Every worker, every poor and even middle peasant, everybody who has suffered need in his lifetime, everybody who has ever lived by his own labour, is in agreement with this. Nine-tenths of the population of Russia are in agreement with this truth. In this simple, elementary and perfectly obvious truth lies the basis of socialism, the indefeasible source of its strength, the indestructible pledge of its final victory.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

You realize it's going to be mandatory after everyone organizes and the Revolution happens, right?

You mean the revolution that supposedly will be undertaken by people too disabled or mentally unstable to be trusted with a gun?

[benji]

WHICH IS WHY WE NEED CIS ALLIES TO ARM UP AND GET IN THE STREETS

LIKE Y'ALL AREN'T EVEN LISTENING

[D3RANG3D]

I would but I have ubislop, ukraineslop, and some obsidislop to play that day...

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

The bing bing wahooo 2 player news may come and I can't miss out on being the first to make a four hour long youtube screed about that too!

[Boredfrom]

The reality of the center is that they want extremists of both wings to shut up and fuck off. But because of the left rejecting anyone they think isn't as left as them, and the right being willing to embrace anyone with any common interest, we've got this stupid meme where the center are just nazi chuds that the left seems to think is an objective fact.

These morons will never learn.

This kills me because you can tell they are also pretty insincere and conditional about this embrace... but they are willing to do it unlike online lefties. 

By this, Trump and Musk seem the champions of free speech even if they dislike it as much as any Resetera user.

[Boredfrom]

I hope all his Co workers are telling him to go suck a dick for putting them in this position

basically just went right past marketing and HR and management to unilaterally tank the game's sales

for a studio where every game they've ever released has possibly been their last

https://fandompulse.substack.com/p/avowed-art-director-matt-hansen-wants?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Matt Hansen, the Art Director for Xbox and Obsidian Entertainment’s upcoming first-person fantasy RPG Avowed, shared he wanted to remove the “too many crusty white dudes” in the video game industry.

In a screenshot shared to X from his now deleted X account, Hansen wrote, “Reminder to Black artists out there who are looking for portfolio reviews or job advice: my DMs are open, and you will always have my priority.”

He added, “We got too many crusty white dudes in this field, please let me help you replace me one day - I want to go back to living in the woods.”

Hansen’s comments were discovered after he admitted that he wanted to make Elon Musk mad with Avowed.

He reacted to Musk, who declared that “having pronouns in a fantasy game is utterly unacceptable.”

Hansen wrote, “Sickos.jpg I wanted so badly to make him mad with my game, and I cannot believe it actually happened. Just wait until you see the default, you said little shit.”

It sucks because it sounds like it is a good game.



But if is good, i doubt is going to bomb. 

[Potato]

Some dude she wants to fuck, but who probably doesn't know she exists, probably said it at a recent fight-the-power meeting.

Why would you assume that she has ever attended such a meeting?

 

She probably watched it online...as a recording.

[Potato]

I know, right? What would happen if someone decided to start a fast food restaurant? Our someone decided to use innovative techniques to develop a desirable good or service and then started using their bargaining power to corner the carrot/cup of sugar market?

You mean by like illegally hoarding stuff from the community storehouses?

Obviously that's ok if you give 30% to your local domestic terrorist gangster faction black panther chapter...

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-27-2024-daily-beast-joe-rogan-reminds-frustrated-dems-that-they-once-%E2%80%98had-me%E2%80%94i-was-on-their-side%E2%80%99.1047096/
Some nice gems in that Rogan thread

This. Every post mortum, including AOCs question to her followers, highlights that people feel abandoned or pushed away by democrats. It wasn't obvious to say, us in Era, but boy looking back it seems so obvious. We hold a lot of truths to be self evident that some crowds don't, and democrats failed to win them over by demeaning them or language policing them instead of appealing to or confronting their (no matter how ignorant) fears.

Performative allies everywhere. Be mad, Era, but look in the mirror. Remember who you're talking to at your holiday gatherings.

lol, it's happening RIGHT NOW with y'all being like, he's right, and ignoring his racist shit.

Don't pretend Rogan wanted Sanders to blow up the system. He wanted him to blow up the democratic party, so the fascists could win More easily.

ToughSoundingName is starting to get ban baited and dog piled as I post this.

Okay, but quick couple of questions, but who exactly is doing this demeaning and what language was being policed? I would also request specific examples as well

We should language police people who call Black people Planet of the Apes though, right? Right?

Like their trans panic? Should dems have given in and agree that trans people are monsters?

Yes

[Snoopy]

Avowed looks good though and it's on GP so I'll play it, even if it directly funds Rogan's genocide

[Boredfrom]

Even if you hate Musk, people should admit that Obsidian dude fucked up big time and Avellone didn’t say anything outrageous to be called “drunkard washout”. 

Era being incapable of outgrow the Tumblr/Twitter wokie discourse is genuinely depressing to me. They don’t even want to accept that minorities voted for Trump because it kills part of the self serving discourse about identity politics.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

WHICH IS WHY WE NEED CIS ALLIES TO ARM UP AND GET IN THE STREETS

LIKE Y'ALL AREN'T EVEN LISTENING

Sorry, but I disagreed about one thing once so now I'm no longer considered an ally.

[Polident]

Even if you hate Musk, people should admit that Obsidian dude fucked up big time and Avellone didn’t say anything outrageous to be called “drunkard washout”. 

Era being incapable of outgrow the Tumblr/Twitter wokie discourse is genuinely depressing to me. They don’t even want to accept that minorities voted for Trump because it kills part of the self serving discourse about identity politics.

From what I gather, Avellone was metoo’d but like definitively “won” as far as somebody could in that situation. So, he secretly has to be bad and evil and whatever to justify all the heinous shit they were saying about him. Because if he’s not the bad guy, what does that make them?

[jooseloose]

There is nothing wrong with being horny, as long everyone is an ADULT. There is a time and a place for it. In private, go ahead. In public? Nope, not happening.

Malds just creeps me out with the hentai stuff. It unnerves me and just makes my skin want to peel off my bones.

There is if you're a CIS MALE 

[Besticus Maximus]

There is nothing wrong with being horny, as long everyone is an ADULT.

'Being horny' internet style, IRL especially, is weird behaviour. If your personality at work is walking around acting like it won't suck itself you are almost undoubtedly an absolute wrongun.

Flirting etc is something else entirely, because when you're doing a cheeky flirt you don't go 'I LIKE SEX DO YOU LIKE SEX WHAT SEX DO YOU LIKE I LIKE THIS ONE' direct to another user. However it tends to be the case that people who can successfully flirt or drive engagements towards sex do not need to talk about sex at all and it's the ones who cannot who do.

[Polident]

There is nothing wrong with being horny, as long everyone is an ADULT.

'Being horny' internet style, IRL especially, is weird behaviour. If your personality at work is walking around acting like it won't suck itself you are almost undoubtedly an absolute wrongun.

Flirting etc is something else entirely, because when you're doing a cheeky flirt you don't go 'I LIKE SEX DO YOU LIKE SEX WHAT SEX DO YOU LIKE I LIKE THIS ONE' direct to another user. However it tends to be the case that people who can successfully flirt or drive engagements towards sex do not need to talk about sex at all and it's the ones who cannot who do.

[DavidCroquet]

There is nothing wrong with being horny, as long everyone is an ADULT.

'Being horny' internet style, IRL especially, is weird behaviour. If your personality at work is walking around acting like it won't suck itself you are almost undoubtedly an absolute wrongun.

Flirting etc is something else entirely, because when you're doing a cheeky flirt you don't go 'I LIKE SEX DO YOU LIKE SEX WHAT SEX DO YOU LIKE I LIKE THIS ONE' direct to another user. However it tends to be the case that people who can successfully flirt or drive engagements towards sex do not need to talk about sex at all and it's the ones who cannot who do.

“I have to use twitter, it’s The Global Town Square!”

Me in the global town square:

[books]

That Obsidian guy is an idiot. Wonder what Chris Avellone knows but refuses to share due to nda and whatnot.