Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

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[Hap Shaughnessy]

Post is already deleted.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

A Nintex in the streets and a Melody Shreds in the sheets

[HaughtyFrank]

We're Going To Put The Most Qualified People In Power: That means straight, Christian White men with children that are biologically theirs. You need DEI/affirmative action policies that favor dipshit blacks over competent Whites because blacks can't compete. When you say that abolishing DEI is White supremacy and the cisheteropatriarchy or whatever, you're actually correct, just not for the reasons you think. Meritocracy is de facto pro-White, pro-male, and pro-straight, because Whites are just better than blacks, men are just better than women, and straights are just better than fags.

I'd prefer it that if someone goes full account suicide they then wouldn't also end up confirming every stereotype about Trumpers

[Averon]

Of course my family partook in basic Thanksgiving activities. What does that have to do with my personal ability to acknowledge what Indigenous folks are saying, and in turn call out people for not giving a shit?

so what did you do this thanksgiving thankstaking to correct the wrongs of colonialism?

What word salad will Nep say to deflect this?

[Ribosome]

with "We The People" sleeve tattoos

Now let's not go too far here.

[D3RANG3D]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-presidential-house-senate-elections-were-n%CC%B5o%CC%B5t%CC%B5-going-back.1026573/page-358#post-132247611

So, I've taken a break from Thanksgiving Dinner prep to write this message, which you should consider carefully.

Key takeaways from the 2024 Presidential Election:

You Need The Non-Hispanic White Vote: Even now, non-Hispanic Whites make up a majority of the US population, and that percentage may increase under Donald Trump and future Republican leadership. You need this demographic in a way that you don't need the black vote or the hispanic vote. Whites decide election outcomes, so if a policy upsets Whites and the Democrats want to win in the future, they're going to just have to ditch it. This probably means having a rather contrite attitude with regards to that party's disgusting history of DEI/affirmative action/etc policies that discriminate against Whites.

America Didn't Fail The Democrats, Democrats Failed America: Donald Trump didn't win the election because of "ignorance," voters being "low-information," or any other condescending bullshit you can come up with. He won the election because he was a superior candidate to Kamala Harris. We can get into the weeds on what makes Trump so much better than Kamala, but the debate on which is the better candidate is over. Trump > Harris, and Trump voters > Harris voters. Learn your place now so that you can maybe have an argument in 2028.

You Lost The Moral High Ground: Really, it's debatable if you ever had the moral high ground to begin with, but today, you absolutely do not. You need to show some humility and accept that the directionality of moral judgment is going to be from the Pepe-Wojak people and religious conservatives with "We The People" sleeve tattoos to the danger hairs and the they/them retards, and not the other way around. This means you need to stop making condescending remarks to these people, as they are (rightly) judging you for your bad choices in life and your idiot politics.

You Don't Have A "Messaging" Problem, Your Party Just Sucks: The issue with your party and its campaign isn't "messaging." It's actually that your party, its policies/attitudes, and from the people in it running for office all the way down to the everyday voter, is just shit. You're evil, annoying, frustrating people who will lie, cheat, and steal, who will denigrate your betters and then demand respect from them, respect that you will not reciprocate. This was morally wrong when you were the "winners" (the outcome of the 2020 "election" is, ah, rather suspect, to put it politely, but your shitbag candidate did take office for 4yrs), but now that you're losers in the most literal sense, it's also just plain fucking dumb. Don't morally posture to people who decide your fate, and have good reason to make negative determinations about it.

You Need To Internalize Critiques From The Right: This election should have been a teachable moment for you. This isn't a time for you to start hyperventilating about how illegals will be deported or about how you can't have postnatal abortions. It's not time to scream about "fascism." It's a time for humble reflection, not moralizing and doubling down.

You Will Never Be A Woman: But actually, though. All of the -ists and the -phobes were right. You were wrong. Men aren't women. Men can't become women, and women can't become men. People and institutions that understand this, as a category, hold intellectual and moral stature over those who do not, as a category. Having a history of this kind of thing, or displaying pronouns in your bio, display name, or signature, is a stain on your record. Your sin and your stupidity will not be easily washed away.

"Experts" Didn't Earn It: If you wanted us to respect your "experts" you shouldn't have spent the last decade or two filtering explicitly for politics and race. Giving someone credentials for being black or whatever tarnishes those credentials. And yes, showing preferential treatment in hiring/admissions/etc to certain races over others is giving them credentials on the basis of race. Period. Since your "experts" didn't earn their credentials, those of us with brains do not need to take them even the least bit seriously. The people we hold in esteem, by contrast, have earned their stature, and so you are required to take them seriously.

We're Going To Put The Most Qualified People In Power: That means straight, Christian White men with children that are biologically theirs. You need DEI/affirmative action policies that favor dipshit blacks over competent Whites because blacks can't compete. When you say that abolishing DEI is White supremacy and the cisheteropatriarchy or whatever, you're actually correct, just not for the reasons you think. Meritocracy is de facto pro-White, pro-male, and pro-straight, because Whites are just better than blacks, men are just better than women, and straights are just better than fags.

Git Gud Or Git Gone: Get some real skills that actually build up America or go away. We aren't worshiping do-nothing Shanequas and HR hall monitors anymore. Get a real job, marry someone with a real job (if they'll take you), or shut the fuck up. To be clear, bitching about how big tits in video games isn't a real job, nor is crying about how IQ tests are discrimination to the EEOC. We're getting rid of all that bullshit.

Choose Your Words Carefully: Through 2020, there was an ethos that we should all be free to think what we want without being punished for it, even outside of a strictly sense. You killed that ethos, opting instead to do everything in your power to shut up your political rivals who knew more than you about basically everything. You even used the government to pressure big tech to censor anybody who questions your batshit ideas. Consequently, we no longer have to respect your right to express yourself. If we deem what you have to say to be too "woke" or whatever, you're gone. Be careful, because your livelihoods, your social status, and your ability to live a normal are now on the line. Before you consider making one of your leftarded utterances in public, consider: is it worth losing your job over it, and going homeless? Remember, you chose for things to be this way, so you're at fault.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving with your families, assuming they let you back into the fold after you spent the last several years disowning them for not voting for your literal DEI candidates.

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[Averon]

Of course my family partook in basic Thanksgiving activities. What does that have to do with my personal ability to acknowledge what Indigenous folks are saying, and in turn call out people for not giving a shit?

so what did you do this thanksgiving thankstaking to correct the wrongs of colonialism?

What word salad will Nep say to deflect this?

We got our answer: "How dare you even ask that question!!!!!!"

Don't ask Black people that question.

The audacity.

"Hey, n-word, what are you doing to fix this country?"

[HaughtyFrank]

so what did you do this thanksgiving thankstaking to correct the wrongs of colonialism?

What word salad will Nep say to deflect this?

We got our answer: "How dare you even ask that question!!!!!!"

Don't ask Black people that question.

The audacity.

"Hey, n-word, what are you doing to fix this country?"

Is this black fragility?

[benji]

There is nothing wrong with being horny, as long everyone is an ADULT.

'Being horny' internet style, IRL especially, is weird behaviour. If your personality at work is walking around acting like it won't suck itself you are almost undoubtedly an absolute wrongun.

Flirting etc is something else entirely, because when you're doing a cheeky flirt you don't go 'I LIKE SEX DO YOU LIKE SEX WHAT SEX DO YOU LIKE I LIKE THIS ONE' direct to another user. However it tends to be the case that people who can successfully flirt or drive engagements towards sex do not need to talk about sex at all and it's the ones who cannot who do.

You can see their logic so easily:
1. If a woman did this I would find it attractive.
2. I am a woman, therefore this will be attractive to others.

[benji]

so what did you do this thanksgiving thankstaking to correct the wrongs of colonialism?

What word salad will Nep say to deflect this?

We got our answer: "How dare you even ask that question!!!!!!"

Don't ask Black people that question.

The audacity.

"Hey, n-word, what are you doing to fix this country?"

Weird how you wanted to hold a Black woman responsible for this then.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Hey, n-word, what are you doing to fix this country?

[Averon]

And here come the bans:
User banned (3 months): dismissive commentary, prior bans for similar behavior

This is why we lose elections

User banned (1 month): dismissive commentary

Yeah, completely insufferable.

User banned (1 month): dismissive commentary

Yeah not gonna lie immediately thought the same thing.

Just let people enjoy the day off with family. Save the proselytizing for another day.

User banned (1 month): dismissive commentary

It's the truth. We all know it and let a few loud voices shout us down. Look how the "Is all reading political?" thread turned out. Voices shouting down the mildest of takes until all discourse just stopped. We've become the parody.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/australias-parliament-approves-social-media-ban-for-children-under-16.1047336/

Soon it'll be the US and Crossing Eden will be in tears. 

[Boredfrom]

And here come the bans:
User banned (3 months): dismissive commentary, prior bans for similar behavior

This is why we lose elections

User banned (1 month): dismissive commentary

Yeah, completely insufferable.

User banned (1 month): dismissive commentary

Yeah not gonna lie immediately thought the same thing.

Just let people enjoy the day off with family. Save the proselytizing for another day.

User banned (1 month): dismissive commentary

It's the truth. We all know it and let a few loud voices shout us down. Look how the "Is all reading political?" thread turned out. Voices shouting down the mildest of takes until all discourse just stopped. We've become the parody.

Some mod got mad. Hello Nepenthe.

[Potato]

What the fuck is going happening on Famiboards, anytime it's posted here it's feels like it's just one layer of an onion of insanity 

Dude, the worst of the Nintendo retards from Resetera set it up. What did you expect to happen?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-presidential-house-senate-elections-were-n%CC%B5o%CC%B5t%CC%B5-going-back.1026573/page-358#post-132247611

So, I've taken a break from Thanksgiving Dinner prep to write this message, which you should consider carefully.

Key takeaways from the 2024 Presidential Election:

You Need The Non-Hispanic White Vote: Even now, non-Hispanic Whites make up a majority of the US population, and that percentage may increase under Donald Trump and future Republican leadership. You need this demographic in a way that you don't need the black vote or the hispanic vote. Whites decide election outcomes, so if a policy upsets Whites and the Democrats want to win in the future, they're going to just have to ditch it. This probably means having a rather contrite attitude with regards to that party's disgusting history of DEI/affirmative action/etc policies that discriminate against Whites.

America Didn't Fail The Democrats, Democrats Failed America: Donald Trump didn't win the election because of "ignorance," voters being "low-information," or any other condescending bullshit you can come up with. He won the election because he was a superior candidate to Kamala Harris. We can get into the weeds on what makes Trump so much better than Kamala, but the debate on which is the better candidate is over. Trump > Harris, and Trump voters > Harris voters. Learn your place now so that you can maybe have an argument in 2028.

You Lost The Moral High Ground: Really, it's debatable if you ever had the moral high ground to begin with, but today, you absolutely do not. You need to show some humility and accept that the directionality of moral judgment is going to be from the Pepe-Wojak people and religious conservatives with "We The People" sleeve tattoos to the danger hairs and the they/them retards, and not the other way around. This means you need to stop making condescending remarks to these people, as they are (rightly) judging you for your bad choices in life and your idiot politics.

You Don't Have A "Messaging" Problem, Your Party Just Sucks: The issue with your party and its campaign isn't "messaging." It's actually that your party, its policies/attitudes, and from the people in it running for office all the way down to the everyday voter, is just shit. You're evil, annoying, frustrating people who will lie, cheat, and steal, who will denigrate your betters and then demand respect from them, respect that you will not reciprocate. This was morally wrong when you were the "winners" (the outcome of the 2020 "election" is, ah, rather suspect, to put it politely, but your shitbag candidate did take office for 4yrs), but now that you're losers in the most literal sense, it's also just plain fucking dumb. Don't morally posture to people who decide your fate, and have good reason to make negative determinations about it.

You Need To Internalize Critiques From The Right: This election should have been a teachable moment for you. This isn't a time for you to start hyperventilating about how illegals will be deported or about how you can't have postnatal abortions. It's not time to scream about "fascism." It's a time for humble reflection, not moralizing and doubling down.

You Will Never Be A Woman: But actually, though. All of the -ists and the -phobes were right. You were wrong. Men aren't women. Men can't become women, and women can't become men. People and institutions that understand this, as a category, hold intellectual and moral stature over those who do not, as a category. Having a history of this kind of thing, or displaying pronouns in your bio, display name, or signature, is a stain on your record. Your sin and your stupidity will not be easily washed away.

"Experts" Didn't Earn It: If you wanted us to respect your "experts" you shouldn't have spent the last decade or two filtering explicitly for politics and race. Giving someone credentials for being black or whatever tarnishes those credentials. And yes, showing preferential treatment in hiring/admissions/etc to certain races over others is giving them credentials on the basis of race. Period. Since your "experts" didn't earn their credentials, those of us with brains do not need to take them even the least bit seriously. The people we hold in esteem, by contrast, have earned their stature, and so you are required to take them seriously.

We're Going To Put The Most Qualified People In Power: That means straight, Christian White men with children that are biologically theirs. You need DEI/affirmative action policies that favor dipshit blacks over competent Whites because blacks can't compete. When you say that abolishing DEI is White supremacy and the cisheteropatriarchy or whatever, you're actually correct, just not for the reasons you think. Meritocracy is de facto pro-White, pro-male, and pro-straight, because Whites are just better than blacks, men are just better than women, and straights are just better than fags.

Git Gud Or Git Gone: Get some real skills that actually build up America or go away. We aren't worshiping do-nothing Shanequas and HR hall monitors anymore. Get a real job, marry someone with a real job (if they'll take you), or shut the fuck up. To be clear, bitching about how big tits in video games isn't a real job, nor is crying about how IQ tests are discrimination to the EEOC. We're getting rid of all that bullshit.

Choose Your Words Carefully: Through 2020, there was an ethos that we should all be free to think what we want without being punished for it, even outside of a strictly sense. You killed that ethos, opting instead to do everything in your power to shut up your political rivals who knew more than you about basically everything. You even used the government to pressure big tech to censor anybody who questions your batshit ideas. Consequently, we no longer have to respect your right to express yourself. If we deem what you have to say to be too "woke" or whatever, you're gone. Be careful, because your livelihoods, your social status, and your ability to live a normal are now on the line. Before you consider making one of your leftarded utterances in public, consider: is it worth losing your job over it, and going homeless? Remember, you chose for things to be this way, so you're at fault.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving with your families, assuming they let you back into the fold after you spent the last several years disowning them for not voting for your literal DEI candidates.

Gee, that veered into racism really quickly. 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

This is why we lose elections

[Potato]

This is why we lose erections

Fixed

[benji]

As some posters pointed out, Thanksgiving isn't a negative holiday for Native Americans. It's about their good faith, about their helping others, about what could have peacefully been, etc.

The "progressives" only hate it because they reflexively hate anything that reminds them of America's total victory. Nepenthe's all about neighborhood pods now but is screeching at white people to overthrow a holiday all about communal charity for your fellow man. The Native Americans established a neighborhood pod for the struggling Pilgrims.

[benji]

Also, the Pilgrims weren't "white" colonialists. They were persecuted minorities, marginalized people of Europe, refugees from cishet oppression, etc.

Nobody in Europe thought this was going to be some profitable colonies to extract resources from, it was a dumping ground.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

It's just asking to reflect on something that still impacts indigenous people today, and a lot of y'all are like lol who cares.

The OP is not a call to action. Didn't ask any of y'all to actually DO shit.

Because "reflecting" is performative horsecrap that does nothing for anyone that isn't yourself. The point of reflecting is to inculcate a sense of moral righteousness; those that want to help, do. Reflecting is the "thoughts and prayers" of activism.

I'm sure this person is banned but they're absolutely right, it's performative bullshit. If you gave a shit about changing the opinions of people you supposedly love or care about you'd make an effort year round, instead these dipshits jerk off to the thought of annoying everyone at thanksgiving in what will presumably be the most incoherent screeching of an argument you've ever heard.

The only people they'll be impressing by revealing the true history of thanksgiving are going to be their tablemates at the children's table.

[benji]

Again, an instance where they have no concept of history. The First Thanksgiving was over a century after Columbus. It was nearly a century after Cortes died. The Mayflower had less than a hundred colonists. They erase all of history to make it seem like Columbus stumbled across the Caribbean, then a bunch of whites busted their ass across the sea to setup Boston and steal all the wealth. (By the time the Massachusetts Bay Company was established there were barely any Native Americans in the area (no more than a couple thousand), the already small population had mostly died off decades earlier. Plus it's Boston, it fucking sucked if you could just head south!)

By the time it became a state, 150 years later, there were only 300,000 people in all of Massachusetts. This was 10% of all Americans across the entire set of Thirteen Colonies!

We're talking about 300 years of events here. That themselves happened nearly 300 years ago. Yeah, definitely hold your uncle and nieces responsible for this shit.

[books]

Skillzilla and digitalop seem to always pop up right before nepnep comes barreling through. Probably coordinating in their discords.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

And genuinely, who the fuck cares? Does anyone after about 5th grade give the slightest shit about the history of the holiday?

[benji]

You can't hold Black Americans responsible (except Kamala) but you can hold white American responsible even though:
-The originals were persecuted minorities who fled oppression.
-The bulk of white American lineages probably came later, especially any Irish, Italians, etc. well after both the Founding and Black Americans came.
-Not a single white person alive today did anything back then.
-Not a single white person alive today could "remedy" anything about any crimes from back then.
-There's more Native Americans alive today than back then, and they're collectively far wealthier.
-Black Americans continue to massively benefit from the "colonialism" that occurred.

[benji]

As some posters pointed out, Thanksgiving isn't a negative holiday for Native Americans. It's about their good faith, about their helping others, about what could have peacefully been, etc.

The "progressives" only hate it because they reflexively hate anything that reminds them of America's total victory. Nepenthe's all about neighborhood pods now but is screeching at white people to overthrow a holiday all about communal charity for your fellow man. The Native Americans established a neighborhood pod for the struggling Pilgrims.

Also, the Pilgrims weren't "white" colonialists. They were persecuted minorities, marginalized people of Europe, refugees from cishet oppression, etc.

Nobody in Europe thought this was going to be some profitable colonies to extract resources from, it was a dumping ground.

Again, an instance where they have no concept of history. The First Thanksgiving was over a century after Columbus. It was nearly a century after Cortes died. The Mayflower had less than a hundred colonists. They erase all of history to make it seem like Columbus stumbled across the Caribbean, then a bunch of whites busted their ass across the sea to setup Boston and steal all the wealth. (By the time the Massachusetts Bay Company was established there were barely any Native Americans in the area (no more than a couple thousand), the already small population had mostly died off decades earlier. Plus it's Boston, it fucking sucked if you could just head south!)

By the time it became a state, 150 years later, there were only 300,000 people in all of Massachusetts. This was 10% of all Americans across the entire set of Thirteen Colonies!

We're talking about 300 years of events here. That themselves happened nearly 300 years ago. Yeah, definitely hold your uncle and nieces responsible for this shit.

You can't hold Black Americans responsible (except Kamala) but you can hold white American responsible even though:
-The originals were persecuted minorities who fled oppression.
-The bulk of white American lineages probably came later, especially any Irish, Italians, etc. well after both the Founding and Black Americans came.
-Not a single white person alive today did anything back then.
-Not a single white person alive today could "remedy" anything about any crimes from back then.
-There's more Native Americans alive today than back then, and they're collectively far wealthier.
-Black Americans continue to massively benefit from the "colonialism" that occurred.

Counterpoint:

[Potato]

Also, the Pilgrims weren't "white" colonialists. They were persecuted minorities, marginalized people of Europe, refugees from cishet oppression, etc.

Nobody in Europe thought this was going to be some profitable colonies to extract resources from, it was a dumping ground.

Once again, all knowledge on Resetera is derived from Hollywood films and 6 hour YouTube videos.

[Averon]

Notice how the two people closest to Native American people in that entire thread said that Thanksgiving was completely fine:

as someone with Indigenous and European Spanish ancestry (because... yeah), this whole thread is fucking embarrassing. smh.
Eat some protein and some pie, tell your friends and family you love them. Wish them a Happy Thanksgiving... or don't. Don't be weird about it.

It's interesting, I work for a Nation Tribe, and they very much still treat Thanksgiving as a holiday to be celebrated. They are proud of their heritage and history, doing what they can to preserve the culture as much as possible, however, Thanksgiving is still seen as a time to celebrate and give thanks to a lot of them. I also believe that it's been something that is deeply rooted in our culture, so I'm not sure if they would ever change anything at this point. A lot of the people now that are Tribe members are of mixed descent, so I imagine the ideas and beliefs have become intertwined, changed, or disregarded as people in the area and the state have become more diverse. That's not to say all of the Natives of the Tribe I work for feel that way, but just talking to people about it, many of the members just talk about the food they are going to eat and what their plans are for the day, rarely, if ever, talking about the awful history that comes with this particular holiday.

They were completely ignored. The only people getting mad and upset about Thanksgiving as a concept were terminally online white liberals and two larping black socialists.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/page-5#post-132258549

You all fucking suck.