Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Averon]

You gotta wonder how much more miserable Nep would be without that admin status. You just know she covets that ResetERA admin status she got like it's gold. The big, loud fish in the tiny pond that's ResetERA gives her life purpose.

[books]

Expert of all things, especially alcohol levels over the internet and white baby killing advocate, admin NepNep.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mexico-shuts-watchdog-agencies-intensifying-fears-for-its-democracy.1048458/

What the fuck is Sheinbaum doing. I thought she was an AMLO-style leftist.

What the fuck is Sheinbaum doing. I thought she was an AMLO-style leftist.

Did you simply not pay attention to AMLO's presidency? He had been shutting down watchdogs (and trying with the electoral institute) left and right

Did you simply not pay attention to AMLO's presidency? He had been shutting down watchdogs (and trying with the electoral institute) left and right

To be fair, I've only heard glowing things about AMLO from leftists generally. But come to think of it, none were actually from Mexico

That is how they get away with it in international matters. I remember when the guardian ran a note about the “alcoholism” of a past president (a bitter rival of AMLO) but there was no credible source at all. Years later The Guardian retracted the note. 

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the cynic and paranoid of me would be surprised if a lot of this people ran the same circle as Trump, just changing politics. Like a bizarre remnant of the Cold War.

[Lonewulfeus]

Her admin position is the only form of control nepenthe has had or ever will have and she knows it.

[Propagandhim]

Props to skillzilla81 MDCrabCakeFan86 and others for wading through the tone policing, concern trolling, and bad faith posting throughout this thread. Such folks know they can't argue against the actual message otherwise they would get rightly dogpiled, so they cherry pick, focus on respectability politics, and communication SKILLS.

Folks can't argue against anything because REE is a giant hug box safe space and anyone who dissents even slightly gets dogpiled and then banned for breaking non-existent rules.

You won't let "such folks argue against the actual message" because you will lose, and lose bad. It's hilarious and pathetic.

You can't be on the wrong side of history Nepenthe.

Mad props to skillzilla, MDCrabCakeFan86, and Nepenthe.  Mad props.  For doing the brave thing and complaining about white people being the cause of all our problems on Resetera dot com.  That is....i mean, god, just mad props for that kind of bravery.  And they hit 'em with the truth and yall were like "whoah".  Folks, you're not gonna see this kind of thing often on Resetera.  This is a real gem.  

Mad
ass
props

[Propagandhim]

I'm not ever gonna be the one to act surprised at how people are the way they are. I know why y'all act like this. So I'll be the one to tell y'all when you act out that you ain't shit and leave it at that.

... and ban you for:

• dismissive commentary not engaging with the source material
  
• inflammatory commentary in a sensitive thread
  
• dismissive commentary, prior bans for similar behavior
  
• dismissive commentary
  
• dismissive commentary
  
• dismissive commentary
  
• dismissive commentary
  
• thread whining and inflammatory commentary
  

The only reason you don't get pile driven into the ground in every topic you inject yourself into is because you have the power to ban the people who would deliver said pile driver. You fucking drone on about corporate this and corporate that, while volunteering for a multimillion dollar corporation that doesn't give a single fuck about you. Think about that. You hypocritical fucking annoying ass bitch.

She would pay to be a mod on Era.  Let's not kid ourselves.

[Uncle]

tbf most of us would pay to be a mod on era for a day or two 

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/page-9

I think it's pretty easy to infer some level of guilt is meant to be felt with the statement, perhaps not an entire condemnation of the individual, but it's easy to see why the title would make people feel a certain way. Is the post meant to simply supply information and nothing more, or is there something one should be considering to do with said information?

Basically, should one feel bad knowing this, while partaking in the holiday? Not partake at all? Fight family who do partake, or? I personally don't have much a horse in this race, as I don't really care about Thanksgiving on the commercial end, but I do like Christmas despite being an atheist, and having all sorts of opinions against religion, so I kind of get it.

I enjoyed reading the OP as I felt it supplied some information I wasn't fully aware of, but if I did partake and decided to keep partaking, I'm not sure if that means I become the bad guy now, or something else. It's not easy to read the intent here sometimes, as people seem often determined to turn anyone into enemies, even if they're supposed to be on the same side as it were.

I do think the way some people smugly dismissed the OP was definitely inappropriate though, it's still good to know history, even if you have decided to put your own spin on modern day events.

If one is inferring guilt from a reminder about the mere existence of oppression, then that is a personal admittance that one, presumably as a literate and indepedent adult, should be able to constructively confront and question. One should have the abilty to take a second and ask "Why do I feel this way? What is driving me to feel attacked? Why am I centering myself in a conversation about a much bigger issue?"

These are basic emotional regulation skills that should've been exercised and strengthened back in one's college years. And yet given the demographics of this forum, we have people with a decade or more of life on that age range who still gnash and complain about being made to feel "guilty" because they were struck, personally wounded, by a mere textual reminder that one of the few holidays they pitifully receive from a system they understand oppresses them but yet they actively choose not to fight against is indeed ultimately about whitewashing a nasty colonial history that continues nearly unimpeded to this day.

Fuck your personal guilt.

No one is owed a sparing from difficult feelings that result from understanding one's potential complicity within a world that fundamentally operates on oppression. No one is owed grace, and sympathy, and comfy emotional insulation from lazy liberalism and reactionary defensiveness in the face of segregation and genocide. It's like handing a bratty toddler a cupcake to pacify them instead of allowing the extinction of the negative behavior in the effort to educate. Being a minority is also not an out either. These are not the issues we should be focusing on.

Which brings me to my reiterated point that people are more interested in trying to run defense of Era members' emotional immaturity and subsequent complicity with a pervasive negative peace than the issue the OP outlined. You ask about how you're supposed to feel and what you can do about the holiday when these questions were literally answered by the two articles in the OP discussing the matter! Literally ignoring the contributions of Indigenous people to continue this useless conversation about how SAD some people felt because their special day off was so callously ruined and trampled on by a forum thread.

And yet you insist that we are on the same side. No we are not.

These mere feelings, these squealing tantrums of defiance, these tearful insistences on centering one's self in every single issue are not constructive. They're not defensible. They're not cute. Some of y'all need to finally grow up, get over yourselves and your special feelings, learn how to take a second or two to question your emotional approach to difficult issues, maybe practice hardening yourself by actually talking about these things in real life, and do further research on what solidarity starts to look like.

Because complaining about how a damn thread title hurt your feelings when Indigenous folks are out here trying to resist genocide just ain't it.

These mere feelings, these squealing tantrums of defiance, these tearful insistences on centering one's self in every single issue are not constructive. They're not defensible. They're not cute. Some of y'all need to finally grow up, get over yourselves and your special feelings, learn how to take a second or two to question your emotional approach to difficult issues

Does anyone know how many spider mans i can have on the screen before I get my electricity cut off?

 

maybe practice hardening yourself by actually talking about these things in real life, and do further research on what solidarity starts to look like.

Say it loud for those in the back.  Do. The.  Fucking.  Work. 

Bother Your Family On their Day off  Like Malcolm  X would've done

[Kyon1988]

I'm really starting to hate "y'all" because of nepnep

[books]

*Lucio hits you with the colonial sound blast!*

[Propagandhim]

i think what it comes down to is, yall aint ready to systemically organize and do the research.  yall aren't doin none of the theory.  And these little insistences of not doing the organizing research systemically is why Korean Crab Cakes Fan is feeling targeted on Thanksgiving.  I mean yall aint doin' even the smallest, most BASIC amount of theory right now.  And you're getting emotional about it.

[HaughtyFrank]

And yet the second someone asked her about what she did this Thanksgiving to fight colonialism she got her feelings all hurt

[Averon]

And yet the second someone asked her about what she did this Thanksgiving to fight colonialism she got her feelings all hurt

"Don't you dare ask Black people that question, White Devil!!!" was literally their response to that

[Propagandhim]

And yet the second someone asked her about what she did this Thanksgiving to fight colonialism she got her feelings all hurt

"Don't you dare ask Black people that question, White Devil!!!" was literally their response to that

And sensing there would be issues that trans people might respond to in the same way, Nepenthe quickly became trans (even though she constantly reminds everyone she's a "Black woman" every 5 seconds) so she can't be excluded from that conversation, either.   I gotta hand it to her.  She's good.  She knows the theory.

[Potato]

Props to skillzilla81 MDCrabCakeFan86 and others for wading through the tone policing, concern trolling, and bad faith posting throughout this thread. Such folks know they can't argue against the actual message otherwise they would get rightly dogpiled, so they cherry pick, focus on respectability politics, and communication SKILLS.

Folks can't argue against anything because REE is a giant hug box safe space and anyone who dissents even slightly gets dogpiled and then banned for breaking non-existent rules.

You won't let "such folks argue against the actual message" because you will lose, and lose bad. It's hilarious and pathetic.

You can't be on the wrong side of history Nepenthe.

Mad props to skillzilla, MDCrabCakeFan86, and Nepenthe.  Mad props.  For doing the brave thing and complaining about white people being the cause of all our problems on Resetera dot com.  That is....i mean, god, just mad props for that kind of bravery.  And they hit 'em with the truth and yall were like "whoah".  Folks, you're not gonna see this kind of thing often on Resetera.  This is a real gem.  

Mad
ass
props

Real hard work to argue on a forum when one of them is the literal forum cop, one is a protected user and the other is an obvious alt of a permanently banned user who no one seems to be able to recognise.




Edit: Saw this too 

Also every holiday in NA is basically for retail. They basically morphed them into shopping events instead of creating something meaningful like in Europe.

It's exactly the same in Europe.

And somehow they can't see that all these "woke" companies with their rainbow this and DEI that are not doing exactly the same thing with their causes? 

[Averon]

I don't understand where in this thread people are upset about the problematic origins of Thanksgiving, but rather the sanctimonious tone of the thread itself (keep in mind it's been edited). At worst people were rude and apathetic to the content in the OP, but it's not like anyone was denying historical fact. But by page 9, it's devolved into anyone celebrating Thanksgiving must be a mask off white oppressive racist (slight exaggeration, but not far off).

Sure, go ahead and call people out for being dismissive or trying to tone police, but the immediate escalation from people that everyone must be fragile white racists that don't want to know the truth about America took this thread from 0 to 60 for no reason, and completely derailed any chance of people engaging with the actual topic.

Bjomesphat's making too much sense, so expect a petty "dismissing concerns" ban from Nep shortly.

[KillRideMedley]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-deal-with-any-family-bullshit-this-thanksgiving.1048497/
 
Finally

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/page-9

I think it's pretty easy to infer some level of guilt is meant to be felt with the statement, perhaps not an entire condemnation of the individual, but it's easy to see why the title would make people feel a certain way. Is the post meant to simply supply information and nothing more, or is there something one should be considering to do with said information?

Basically, should one feel bad knowing this, while partaking in the holiday? Not partake at all? Fight family who do partake, or? I personally don't have much a horse in this race, as I don't really care about Thanksgiving on the commercial end, but I do like Christmas despite being an atheist, and having all sorts of opinions against religion, so I kind of get it.

I enjoyed reading the OP as I felt it supplied some information I wasn't fully aware of, but if I did partake and decided to keep partaking, I'm not sure if that means I become the bad guy now, or something else. It's not easy to read the intent here sometimes, as people seem often determined to turn anyone into enemies, even if they're supposed to be on the same side as it were.

I do think the way some people smugly dismissed the OP was definitely inappropriate though, it's still good to know history, even if you have decided to put your own spin on modern day events.

If one is inferring guilt from a reminder about the mere existence of oppression, then that is a personal admittance that one, presumably as a literate and indepedent adult, should be able to constructively confront and question. One should have the abilty to take a second and ask "Why do I feel this way? What is driving me to feel attacked? Why am I centering myself in a conversation about a much bigger issue?"

These are basic emotional regulation skills that should've been exercised and strengthened back in one's college years. And yet given the demographics of this forum, we have people with a decade or more of life on that age range who still gnash and complain about being made to feel "guilty" because they were struck, personally wounded, by a mere textual reminder that one of the few holidays they pitifully receive from a system they understand oppresses them but yet they actively choose not to fight against is indeed ultimately about whitewashing a nasty colonial history that continues nearly unimpeded to this day.

Fuck your personal guilt.

No one is owed a sparing from difficult feelings that result from understanding one's potential complicity within a world that fundamentally operates on oppression. No one is owed grace, and sympathy, and comfy emotional insulation from lazy liberalism and reactionary defensiveness in the face of segregation and genocide. It's like handing a bratty toddler a cupcake to pacify them instead of allowing the extinction of the negative behavior in the effort to educate. Being a minority is also not an out either. These are not the issues we should be focusing on.

Which brings me to my reiterated point that people are more interested in trying to run defense of Era members' emotional immaturity and subsequent complicity with a pervasive negative peace than the issue the OP outlined. You ask about how you're supposed to feel and what you can do about the holiday when these questions were literally answered by the two articles in the OP discussing the matter! Literally ignoring the contributions of Indigenous people to continue this useless conversation about how SAD some people felt because their special day off was so callously ruined and trampled on by a forum thread.

And yet you insist that we are on the same side. No we are not.

These mere feelings, these squealing tantrums of defiance, these tearful insistences on centering one's self in every single issue are not constructive. They're not defensible. They're not cute. Some of y'all need to finally grow up, get over yourselves and your special feelings, learn how to take a second or two to question your emotional approach to difficult issues, maybe practice hardening yourself by actually talking about these things in real life, and do further research on what solidarity starts to look like.

Because complaining about how a damn thread title hurt your feelings when Indigenous folks are out here trying to resist genocide just ain't it.

These mere feelings, these squealing tantrums of defiance, these tearful insistences on centering one's self in every single issue are not constructive. They're not defensible. They're not cute. Some of y'all need to finally grow up, get over yourselves and your special feelings, learn how to take a second or two to question your emotional approach to difficult issues

Does anyone know how many spider mans i can have on the screen before I get my electricity cut off?

 

maybe practice hardening yourself by actually talking about these things in real life, and do further research on what solidarity starts to look like.

Say it loud for those in the back.  Do. The.  Fucking.  Work. 

Bother Your Family On their Day off  Like Malcolm  X would've done

Gentle reminder that not one single indigenous voice on Resetera has been raised in resistance to Thanksgiving Day.

[Potato]

I'm really starting to hate "y'all" because of nepnep

You should anyway.

[Taco Bell Tower]

And yet the second someone asked her about what she did this Thanksgiving to fight colonialism she got her feelings all hurt

"Don't you dare ask Black people that question, White Devil!!!" was literally their response to that

YT users on Ree when dealing with NepNep and BTC

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-deal-with-any-family-bullshit-this-thanksgiving.1048497/
 
Finally

Why do they lie about everything?

Someone brought COVID and now we all have it.

My mom decided that was a good time to talk her antivax shit, for some reason.

My Aunt died (separately) and we can't attend the funeral tomorrow because of COVID

Pretty bad Thanksgiving

Wasn't Thanksgiving like 24 hours ago? No chance everyone developed COVID in that timeframe. Also, ain't no chance his aunt died and her funeral is tomorrow. Shit just doesn't move that fast.

[EaldNarche]

Good lord, the thanksgiving threads are still going and thanksgiving is over. They gotta pack it up and wait for next year's at this point. Gobble gobble...

[clockwork5]

Jesus Christ Nep…

Now I know how that lady felt when she pulled out the coupon for her medication.

[imsotired]

It's not about thanksgiving, it's that post election there has been some pushback and that thread had more of it than I have seen anywhere else on the site.  Nep is just crushing dissent before people start getting the idea that they are allowed to say what they really think.

[MMaRsu]

Americans and their holidays..

[Polident]

At least there’s nothing controversial about Black Friday.

[Greatness Gone]

Actually, *Dark Friday is the politically correct term. 

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/page-8#post-132283983

It's awful, I feel like I'm being attacked as an Asian American, specifically Korean American simply for pointing out the actual history of Thanksgiving and I don't appreciate it one bit.

How weird. That other guy who posted Baltimore news stories until he was permanently banned was Korean too.

[Polident]

Actually, *Dark Friday is the politically correct term. 

You know, I’m sure somebody argued that despite the “black” being a positive. Referring to companies getting out of the red into profitability. 2020 was a weird time. It’s for the best we collectively pretend it never happened.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/page-8#post-132283983

It's awful, I feel like I'm being attacked as an Asian American, specifically Korean American simply for pointing out the actual history of Thanksgiving and I don't appreciate it one bit.

How weird. That other guy who posted Baltimore news stories until he was permanently banned was Korean too.

Wait until we find out they're both autistic and morbidly obese!