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(09-06-2024, 10:01 PM)Nintex wrote: [Image: GWxNpnGWoAAdUrn?format=jpg]

Jim Ryan: GAAS  Lucille AND REMAKES  Mouf 

Japan Studio?  Nope
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(09-06-2024, 09:18 PM)killamajig wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-saw-someone-who-i-had-hoped-to-never-see-again.974457/
Quote:Uzumaki Goku

Someone I knew going to school. We didn't really get along. Typical kids stuff, even though he and I seemed to share a lot of common interests, but there was something about him that rubbed me the wrong way.

A few years pass after graduation, then word spreads on my Facebook feed that he is now a convicted sex offender. (I wondered how he didn't go to jail and someone told me his dad worked something out for him to keep him out of jail)

I remember thinking "Ah. That's why I didn't like him." Just a weird feeling that you can't explain.

A few weeks back, I was hanging out with my best friend. We were going to get food, the usual stuff, he wants to stop at the card shop for a minute and buy some Yugioh cards, they're having a tournament there that day, I say "Sure." So I let him do his thing and I wander the tables, watching people play the YGO TCG and... it was then I saw him, he was playing somebody in Yugioh, he started to look at me, but I quickly turned away and told my friend "Just do your business and let's get out of here. I don't want to be here any longer." He says sure.

So my friend comes out, I tell him the story.

But seeing that guy again now knowing he is a sex offender, seeing him play a YGO game acting like nothing happened. I was kinda disgusted

Seeing him again shook me in some way and I can't explain why.

Thankfully, he didn't come up to me, and I've been told that if he does I should act like I don't know him.

If I ever go back there, I'm worried he'll be there again. What should I do?

I just hoped I would never see him again.

Don't play Yugioh. Got nothing to do with the sex offender, just good advise.



The worst part of the story isn't even the sex offender.


It's the OP and his friend, 2 men in their late 30's, playing Yu-Gi-Oh  YOU CRAZY MAN YOU CRAZY
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(09-06-2024, 10:00 PM)Snoopy wrote:
(09-06-2024, 09:24 PM)Boredfrom wrote:
(09-06-2024, 09:20 PM)Potato wrote: Linkin Park were the rock equivalent of Backstreet Boys. It's soulless corporate garbage with a parent-approved image.

I admit is corporate garbage, I take offense with the soulless. Bolo

My mum once bought me a Marilyn Manson t shirt. I was absolutely horrified. I appreciated the effort but it meant I had to wear that ridiculous thing to please her. I would have rather worn a dress.

??? Okay. ??? 

Do you want a medal for excellence in taste?
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(09-06-2024, 10:17 PM)Boredfrom wrote:
(09-06-2024, 10:00 PM)Snoopy wrote:
(09-06-2024, 09:24 PM)Boredfrom wrote: I admit is corporate garbage, I take offense with the soulless. Bolo

My mum once bought me a Marilyn Manson t shirt. I was absolutely horrified. I appreciated the effort but it meant I had to wear that ridiculous thing to please her. I would have rather worn a dress.



??? Okay. ??? 

Do you want a medal for excellence in taste?

Yes
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(09-06-2024, 10:20 PM)Snoopy wrote:
(09-06-2024, 10:17 PM)Boredfrom wrote:
(09-06-2024, 10:00 PM)Snoopy wrote: My mum once bought me a Marilyn Manson t shirt. I was absolutely horrified. I appreciated the effort but it meant I had to wear that ridiculous thing to please her. I would have rather worn a dress.



??? Okay. ??? 

Do you want a medal for excellence in taste?

Yes

Okay

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(09-06-2024, 10:10 PM)Boredfrom wrote:
(09-06-2024, 10:02 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
(09-06-2024, 09:51 PM)Potato wrote: Soyny are pretty out of touch though...
I guess. Maybe they figured that the game will really tap into the "modern audience". At the same time I feel like in the current environment it would be downright frowned upon if Hermen Hulst gave them feedback like "Maybe some characters could be more attractive". I'm thinking about that crazy insomniac dev who had screaming matches with other devs because they were so disgusted by the idea that Rivet could have breasts in Ratchet and Clank
I suppose you start controlling or culling those toxic employees if you don’t want a repeat. Is probably more worrisome if some of the top brass actually drink the kool aid.
Is clear that people are not thrilled by this stuff and even people that enable it barely tolerates it. Stellar Blade, hogwarts Legacy and Wukong prove that there is a genuine disconnect between normal gamers and wokies. And those employees sound to be also in the minority in most cases (just brutally vocal and willing to make shit shows if the press enables them).

[hide]My bro said everyone is walking on egg shells in those type of studios and don't want to or know better not to 'trigger' people with feedback because they always take it as a personal attack.

So when someone shows something that is absolute dog shit, they will still clap and say: "What a good job!" especially if the person that made it is very insecure and easily triggered.
After all you don't want to end up at HR for being a racist or a sexist or whatever, so everyone is doing a very good job and being very brave considering the trauma of the day. Go team!

If it is just one bad thing that's not really a problem but eventually all the little things no one dared to shoot down pile up until you get stuff like Conturd.

What adds to it is that once the wokies hear what a good job they are doing, they start to change things others are making too, after all they are 'the best on the team'.

Everyone in the industry worth their salt knows, if you have one crazy blue haired person in your team at a somewhat high level that you are unable to contain you should fix your resume and GTFO. It's somewhat of an 'open secret' in the industry why Saints Row was understaffed and why RARE has been unable to put anything but Sea of Thieves DLC in production.

He thinks those gay missions in Spider-Man 2 were a containment tactic. Just let them work on the one DEI mission so everyone else can focus on the rest of the game.
It's also where are all those trans/gay community managers come from, usually they apply to be developers or artists but they are given a more 'important' job to keep them away from the actual game.[/hide]
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which is all what I was talking about when I said there are not enough assholes anymore

these character designs float right past 100 people who all say "wow! that's...that's really great..."
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Nintex wrote:He thinks those gay missions in Spider-Man 2 were a containment tactic. Just let them work on the one DEI mission so everyone else can focus on the rest of the game.

I almost believed you until that part. To on the nose, Nintex.
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(09-06-2024, 10:31 PM)Uncle wrote: which is all what I was talking about when I said there are not enough assholes anymore

these character designs float right past 100 people who all say "wow! that's...that's really great..."

Then let the free market speak for itself. Malarkey! Money Trumps
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Has the FBI investigated boredfrom? He seems to really like problematic content like anime and Linkin Park...
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[hide]That was his closing comment

"And then it finally ships and everyone thinks it fucking sucks lol"[/hide]
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/ex-twitch-dr-disrespect-ban-for-dms-w-minor-up-cut-from-12am-turtle-beach-49ers-nba2k24-yt-de-up2-dr-confirms-up3-dr-deletes-statement.908469/page-77#post-128286363
L Thammy wrote:Look at the age of consent in Europe if you'd like to be shocked. Eighteen isn't really as normal as it is in popular consciousness, it's just the number that we get from the media because it's number that would be most likely to be referenced by Hollywood productions and it's what the porn industry has to stick to to sell nationwide and things like that.

Legal systems have to deal with a lot of uncomfortable realities; teenagers engage in sexual behaviour among themselves, and if the age is too high with no other protections you risk essentially criminalizing normal human sexual behaviour.

Which then leads us to another point, our morality shouldn't really be based on whether things are legal or not. You can groom people who are in their twenties if the power dynamics are there.
Is there any age at which a person cannot be groomed? And if the answer is no, then why hold anyone responsible for anything? 

"Your honor, I know I made a mistake, but please consider the fact that I am just a 57 year old teen girl!"
I believe I can cry
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Jesus. Think of the poor pedophile when he discovers he’s been grooming Shreds. That’s not going to end well.
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Malds kofi was around 230% of the target $200 last I checked sometime last week, now it's at... 312%! And all from the one paypig lol 

https://ko-fi.com/melodyshreds

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If we do some simple math, 230% of 200 is 460, 312% of 200 is 624

Meaning this person has donated around $164 to Malds in the past week or so...

what an odd world
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(09-05-2024, 11:56 PM)killamajig wrote:
(09-05-2024, 11:18 PM)Cheers wrote:
Quote:So, the add was for a website called Spoonful of Comfort. The gist of the add is a lady who says she is sick, and her friend sent her a "care pack." The care pack had two 32-ounce soups, some cookies, and some rolls....for $100.

Now, the premise of this is the lady is sick. So now, she has to go get her kettle and pour the soup in it which means she'll be doing dishes while sick. So, 64 ounces of soup she has to warm up and eat before too long because they are not canned.

I dunno. This seems like a concept that could've ended immediately after somebody in the focus group asked, "Why wouldn't a person just DoorDash their friend some soup from Bob Evans since its already hot and ready to eat and comes with rolls AND it'll be there within 40 minutes instead of being shipped FedEx?"

I feel like the number of rip-offs that are blatant rip-offs these days is growing. And yes, I recognize the irony in talking about rip-offs when it comes to fees DoorDash sneaks in.


Quote:She probably had a microwave oven?
Quote:Did you say pour the soup... In the kettle ?
Quote:Who the fuck puts soup in a kettle??? Lmao you heat it up on the stove or in the microwave
Quote:I'm very tired right now, and op talking about putting soup in a damn kettle has twisted my melon something rotten.
Soup...in a kettle?
Sending someone a thoughtful gift to make them feel better is a burden? The hell? It's a bit expensive but it might be good quality soup that's better than local takeaways.

What is this miserable, cynical-ass post?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-just-saw-a-facebook-advertisement-for-something-that-would-be-a-burden-to-receive.973581/

That OP is peak "I need something to be mad about"

Yes, the whole thing is expensive and bougie but that should be right up Reee's alley. Booshka probably sends himself one of these each day.
https://www.spoonfulofcomfort.com/

They are a bunch of lazy fucks though, so boiling water might be a bridge too far for some of them.


They can't get mad at the concept of sending money for someone to buy food so they get mad at that someone is profiting from it.   Snob
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(09-05-2024, 11:56 PM)killamajig wrote:
(09-05-2024, 11:18 PM)Cheers wrote:
Quote:So, the add was for a website called Spoonful of Comfort. The gist of the add is a lady who says she is sick, and her friend sent her a "care pack." The care pack had two 32-ounce soups, some cookies, and some rolls....for $100.

Now, the premise of this is the lady is sick. So now, she has to go get her kettle and pour the soup in it which means she'll be doing dishes while sick. So, 64 ounces of soup she has to warm up and eat before too long because they are not canned.

I dunno. This seems like a concept that could've ended immediately after somebody in the focus group asked, "Why wouldn't a person just DoorDash their friend some soup from Bob Evans since its already hot and ready to eat and comes with rolls AND it'll be there within 40 minutes instead of being shipped FedEx?"

I feel like the number of rip-offs that are blatant rip-offs these days is growing. And yes, I recognize the irony in talking about rip-offs when it comes to fees DoorDash sneaks in.


Quote:She probably had a microwave oven?
Quote:Did you say pour the soup... In the kettle ?
Quote:Who the fuck puts soup in a kettle??? Lmao you heat it up on the stove or in the microwave
Quote:I'm very tired right now, and op talking about putting soup in a damn kettle has twisted my melon something rotten.
Soup...in a kettle?
Sending someone a thoughtful gift to make them feel better is a burden? The hell? It's a bit expensive but it might be good quality soup that's better than local takeaways.

What is this miserable, cynical-ass post?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-just-saw-a-facebook-advertisement-for-something-that-would-be-a-burden-to-receive.973581/

That OP is peak "I need something to be mad about"

Yes, the whole thing is expensive and bougie but that should be right up Reee's alley. Booshka probably sends himself one of these each day.
https://www.spoonfulofcomfort.com/

They are a bunch of lazy fucks though, so boiling water might be a bridge too far for some of them.


They can't get mad at the concept of sending money for someone to buy food so they get mad at that someone is profiting from it.   Snob
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(09-06-2024, 10:38 PM)Jansen wrote: Has the FBI investigated boredfrom? He seems to really like problematic content like anime and Linkin Park...

I’ve already handed them a full transcript of all 500 pages in the past week.
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I found Benji’s Resetera account. Nice try, bet you thought you were slick.  Banned!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ex-twitch-dr-disrespect-ban-for-dms-w-minor-up-cut-from-12am-turtle-beach-49ers-nba2k24-yt-de-up2-dr-confirms-up3-dr-deletes-statement.908469/page-77#post-128287929
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(09-06-2024, 10:59 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote: Malds kofi was around 230% of the target $200 last I checked sometime last week, now it's at... 312%! And all from the one paypig lol 

https://ko-fi.com/melodyshreds

[Image: 072wama.png]

[Image: vm8HqeO.png]

If we do some simple math, 230% of 200 is 460, 312% of 200 is 624

Meaning this person has donated around $164 to Malds in the past week or so...

what an odd world
many such cases. I know of more than one offline example of this thing. 

Great work, if you can get it!
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(09-06-2024, 11:09 PM)TylenolJones wrote: I found Benji’s Resetera account. Nice try, bet you thought you were slick.  Banned!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ex-twitch-dr-disrespect-ban-for-dms-w-minor-up-cut-from-12am-turtle-beach-49ers-nba2k24-yt-de-up2-dr-confirms-up3-dr-deletes-statement.908469/page-77#post-128287929

Finally, he got over.
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Foot wrote:There was a time when tv news stations would report on a platform allowing a pedophile to continue broadcasting to his audience of children, so that said platform would have to react. Do we not live in that world anymore?


Get the look!
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What's the difference between a convicted pedophile and a guy who is the subject of insinuations and hearsay? 

Why would these two people be treated differently? 
hmm
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/doj-russia-aimed-propaganda-at-gamers-minorities-to-swing-2024-election.974553/

“BTW, why some of RE talking points are mentioned to be from Russia”.

B-Dumbs:  Social Justice Warrior
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I feel like zeobitch thought that new tweet would go viral like that drake one.
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Nepenthe wrote:I can't imagine feeling emotionally tanked about the art design I had worked on this. The character designs had the vibe of AI. I don't mean that in the sense that the artists were actually generating them, but that the high fidelity of the models (suggesting skill) mixed with contradictory basic design and color errors (suggesting incompetency) points to an environment of micromanagement by higher ups who simply didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Ignorant "visionaries" giving their input where it didn't belong.

Ultimately, sometimes you are asked by a client to produce ugly-ass art, and it's not necessarily an indictment on you, especially in the former environment where your decisions are inevitably the result of committee. Granted, I wouldn't expect most people to think of the business in this vain, and if gamers are attacking the artists as primarily responsible for the final product, it certainly wouldn't be the first time that they failed to understand this business despite denoting years of their life to it.

But ultimately, Concord is just ugly. And we should be free to say it's ugly.

I don’t doubt a lot of artists were actually concerned about those designs and the higher ups were also guilty about it…


But, lol , some of those designs screams Tumblr to me. But it is always somebody else fault in NepNep world. That fat dude design was totally conceived by a corpo. Awesome
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(09-06-2024, 11:44 PM)malfoyking wrote: I feel like zeobitch thought that new tweet would go viral like that drake one.

Which tweet? I need to reply telling him he’s a homo on twitter and that last Jedi sucks
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nepenthe is a two-faced bitch! if someone had talked about her my little pony fighting game art like she's talking about concord's, she would have blown a fucking gasket and crashed her nissan into a crowded street lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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Nepenthe wrote:Reports and posts have been reviewed, and the thread will remain locked.

Staff agreed to come down harder on posts than we might have otherwise in similar threads for other games. Why is this?

We absolutely know that misogynoir (the hatred of Black women) exists, and that it always relevant in situations such as this where a Black woman is the protagonist of a major product, even if the team behind the character's creation is non-Black. We also know that when products such as these that invariably feature some notable form of representation turn out less than perfect, or even outright bad, these flaws are used as plausible deniability to continuously and exaggeratedly harp on an object of ire, either subconsciously or not.

This does not mean that such products cannot be criticized, as even Forspoken fans in here have pointed out some issues with things like the game's stability on PC or the music. Rather, it means that we have a responsibility to look at the criticism and attitudes in aggregate and see how they are serving the environment of minority inclusion staff try to foster here.

So, where does that leave us with Forspoken? Ultimately, it's an average game starring a Black woman that was released to a market dominated by white men, and here we have a forum full of white and non-Black members who have been shitting on the game for months on end for every single flaw, not only to the detriment of Black members' enjoyment of the forum as a whole, but in rebuke of their lived experience of racial bias and sexism within the game industry. This has come somewhat to a head in this thread, wherein non-Black content creators continue with the exact same behavior.

This stops today with this thread. We will be harder on the inflammatory rhetoric and side-eye worthy jokes in Forspoken threads than we've been in the past. Drive-bys and anything that can be construed as being dismissive of the valid issues at hand will be hit as such, with standard two week bans going out and escalations happening to members with similar priors.

Happy Black History Month.

For the life of me, I can't understand why we can't apply this same logic to Concord, which to me looks like a better game than Forspoken, has more diversity, and is a target of much worse vitriol than Forspoken ever was.  It can't be because Nepenthe applies the rules based on her personal tastes and biases and she actually didn't care for Concord...that can't be it, can it?  Nah.
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(09-06-2024, 11:53 PM)Boredfrom wrote:
Nepenthe wrote:I can't imagine feeling emotionally tanked about the art design I had worked on this. The character designs had the vibe of AI. I don't mean that in the sense that the artists were actually generating them, but that the high fidelity of the models (suggesting skill) mixed with contradictory basic design and color errors (suggesting incompetency) points to an environment of micromanagement by higher ups who simply didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Ignorant "visionaries" giving their input where it didn't belong.

Ultimately, sometimes you are asked by a client to produce ugly-ass art, and it's not necessarily an indictment on you, especially in the former environment where your decisions are inevitably the result of committee. Granted, I wouldn't expect most people to think of the business in this vain, and if gamers are attacking the artists as primarily responsible for the final product, it certainly wouldn't be the first time that they failed to understand this business despite denoting years of their life to it.

But ultimately, Concord is just ugly. And we should be free to say it's ugly.

I don’t doubt a lot of artists were actually concerned about those designs and the higher ups were also guilty about it…


But, lol , some of those designs screams Tumblr to me. But it is always somebody else fault in NepNep world. That fat dude design was totally conceived by a corpo. Awesome

For all we know the artist is actually complaining that the executives forced her to have at least the Asian lady look attractive.

The idea that the designs were dictated by evil corpo honestly makes less and less sense when you think about it. Executives would push for designs that have already been proven in the market, they'd likely ask them to make it more like Overwatch and Apex Legends. Fat guy with awful fashion sense is an unproven risk. Pronouns in character select screen are an unproven risk and so on. 
The only way the corpo narrative makes sense is if they had some crazy justice warrior leading the ship who kept shouting down the art department
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Nepenthe wrote:No one listens to chuds other than other chuds. If you're not terminally online in these spaces or not already susceptible to being a right-wing troglodyte, their shit-flinging isn't really going to sway anyone. I didn't even know this was in their crosshairs.

Most people likely didn't play it because the characters looked unappealing, it wasn't marketed well, and there was a $40 price tag on it.

Nepenthe wrote:But ultimately, Concord is just ugly. And we should be free to say it's ugly.

Nepenthe wrote:Not even the posing on that image of the skin is appealing because nothing is pushed, but that's me being a picky animator.




I love how Nepenthe has like a bunch of posts about how Concord is ugly and shit in a thread full of people talking about how they like it, but if you said anything about what you didn't like about Forspoken it was:
Nepenthe wrote:we have a forum full of white and non-Black members who have been shitting on the game for months on end for every single flaw, not only to the detriment of Black members' enjoyment of the forum as a whole, but in rebuke of their lived experience of racial bias and sexism within the game industry. This has come somewhat to a head in this thread, wherein non-Black content creators continue with the exact same behavior."

All because she liked Forspoken and didn't even give Concord a try.

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Fucking hypocrite  lol
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