Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[AnnoyedCanadian]

The whole GamerGate shit was so stupid, same with the Sweet Baby stuff right now. If you don't want to play a game that has had their consulting, just ignore it. There are developers and publishers that I avoid but I don't feel the need to go on about it and obsess over them.

ReeEra calling people chuds is basically second side of the same coin. They act just like the other side and don't even realize it. Just be normal for once in your lives, please. This terminally online shit does not appeal to the general public and they don't give a flying fuck about it.

I'm not trying to stand on a soapbox here and say I'm better than anyone (I'm not), it's just been annoying seeing this culture war shit for the past decade or so. I'd rather people get into arguments over what class in a game is better or which game is graphically better when they look almost identical.

[LegendOfSwagda]

youtube and tiktok only shows you the type of videos they think you like

watching chud core videos to see what the chuds are mad about means more videos like that...and watching videos from"good sources" on why the chuds are bad will also get you more of that 

basically you made the damn sandwhich

[HaughtyFrank]

When I saw Bezos was worth over 200 billion, I did some math.

If Jeff Bezos liquidated only 1% of his net worth and sent a check to every single American for an equal amount, he would be sending every American over $5 million. If he left himself with only 100 billion net worth and liquidated the other half. Americans would each get $274 million.

I have nothing else to say other than fuck Billionaires.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mind-blowing-stat-about-bezos-net-worth.1021635/

He should do some more math 

[Boredfrom]

A lot of inflated scores for Dragon Age. I don’t think the general gamer community will be as kind as with inquisition after a Post Baldurs Gate 3 world.

[Boredfrom]

The writing can be overwrought, written by committee, and occasionally forced, but it's also a major step forward for a team that needs the win.

Why should I give a fuck about it as a consumer?

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is a return to form for this once-lauded RPG studio that should satiate Dragon Age fans quite well after a decade-long wait. But returning to form and perfecting form are not the same thing. BioWare has plenty of room to regrow as it gets back on track making the kinds of games RPG fans want them to create.

So is not a return to form but being less shitty than the last games…

[Taco Bell Tower]

When I saw Bezos was worth over 200 billion, I did some math.

If Jeff Bezos liquidated only 1% of his net worth and sent a check to every single American for an equal amount, he would be sending every American over $5 million. If he left himself with only 100 billion net worth and liquidated the other half. Americans would each get $274 million.

I have nothing else to say other than fuck Billionaires.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mind-blowing-stat-about-bezos-net-worth.1021635/

He should do some more math 

Edit - did I screw up the math?

[Propagandhim]

When I saw Bezos was worth over 200 billion, I did some math.
If Jeff Bezos liquidated only 1% of his net worth and sent a check to every single American for an equal amount, he would be sending every American over $5 million. If he left himself with only 100 billion net worth and liquidated the other half. Americans would each get $274 million.
I have nothing else to say other than fuck Billionaires.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mind-blowing-stat-about-bezos-net-worth.1021635/
He should do some more math  

Yes, yes, YES.  SAY IT LOUD FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK.  Say it with your whole ass.  No BILLIONAIRES ON EARTH BECAUSE WE CONTROL THE WORLD'S TAXES AND HUMAN CAPITAL MOVEMENT.  And sideye and ban anyone who says otherwise, with they whole ass.  ban they whole ass for everyone in the back

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-surrogate-goes-on-cnn-to-spin-their-nazi-rally-at-msg-goes-worse-than-you-could-think.1021629/#post-130804911
Comediansmasher

If CNN had even a shred of fucking decency this would be the red line. But they just keep skating right on past every red line possible to be like "but maybe Republicans aren't so bad???????"

David Zaslav, this shit is on you, you worthless impacted abcess.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

Zaslav is the boogeyman to them. Anytime anything goes wrong at Warner Bros. Discovery, it's solely because of him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Discovery#Leadership

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CNN_personnel#Executives

ComedySmasher, for the love of all things holy, find something that you actually enjoy, embrace it and shut the fuck up about everything else.

[benji]

When I saw Bezos was worth over 200 billion, I did some math.

If Jeff Bezos liquidated only 1% of his net worth and sent a check to every single American for an equal amount, he would be sending every American over $5 million. If he left himself with only 100 billion net worth and liquidated the other half. Americans would each get $274 million.

I have nothing else to say other than fuck Billionaires.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mind-blowing-stat-about-bezos-net-worth.1021635/

He should do some more math 

Apologies for intro, couldn't find just the clip:

[benji]

Yes, yes, YES.  SAY IT LOUD FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK.  Say it with your whole ass.  No BILLIONAIRES ON EARTH BECAUSE WE CONTROL THE WORLD'S TAXES AND HUMAN CAPITAL MOVEMENT.  And sideye and ban anyone who says otherwise, with they whole ass.  ban they whole ass for everyone in the back

What's important is that I hate that other people have things I want and I would rather it be wasted so nobody has it. Because I'm not greedy like they are.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

When I saw Bezos was worth over 200 billion, I did some math.

If Jeff Bezos liquidated only 1% of his net worth and sent a check to every single American for an equal amount, he would be sending every American over $5 million. If he left himself with only 100 billion net worth and liquidated the other half. Americans would each get $274 million.

I have nothing else to say other than fuck Billionaires.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mind-blowing-stat-about-bezos-net-worth.1021635/

He should do some more math 

Apologies for intro, couldn't find just the clip:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Williams#Iraq_War_helicopter_fabrication

And that as well. Very tame compared to other news stories in the grand scheme of things today

His daughter is hot as fuck though.

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[BananaBlast]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-435

So there's a female character in Dragon Age Veilguard and, surprisingly, she's in a skimpy costume. The burka brigade did not like it.

Spoiler warning, I guess, since I assume it's a spoiler sensitive character:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

It just seems like one of those things where showing a lot of skin isn't immediately sexual or provocative, but of course the mentally ill prudes absolutely are repulsed and offended by a non-ugly woman showing skin.

Half of the replies are hidden probably because they're cowards. I guess something happened where now they're shelling up because they're terrified that others may be laughing are their insane opinions. Or maybe one of the users is trauma dumping again.

That's an unfortunate blight on what seems to be an overall extremely progressive game by AAA standards. Hopefully not much more of that unseen.

What is it with Bioware and having sexist art direction like this? Why? Why does it have to be like this?

You just can't win with these people. I guess you just have to eliminate all traces of... well, everything, in order to be considered perfectly tolerable for these freaks.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Showing skin?  So much for owning the chuds.  Time to cancel!   

[ClothedMac]

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1ge0sl9/ai_assisted_multiarm_robot_that_identifies_ripe/


I imagine Nepenthe weeping at this monstrosity and vainly pummelling it with her paws.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-435

So there's a female character in Dragon Age Veilguard and, surprisingly, she's in a skimpy costume. The burka brigade did not like it.

Spoiler warning, I guess, since I assume it's a spoiler sensitive character:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

It just seems like one of those things where showing a lot of skin isn't immediately sexual or provocative, but of course the mentally ill prudes absolutely are repulsed and offended by a non-ugly woman showing skin.

Half of the replies are hidden probably because they're cowards. I guess something happened where now they're shelling up because they're terrified that others may be laughing are their insane opinions. Or maybe one of the users is trauma dumping again.

That's an unfortunate blight on what seems to be an overall extremely progressive game by AAA standards. Hopefully not much more of that unseen.

What is it with Bioware and having sexist art direction like this? Why? Why does it have to be like this?

You just can't win with these people. I guess you just have to eliminate all traces of... well, everything, in order to be considered perfectly tolerable for these freaks.

They're genuinely insane. This is why you don't cater to these dumbasses

[benji]

For Uncle:

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[Potato]

people care so little about mainstream review sites that no one actually listened to the IGN review

here's why the game got a 9 out of 10:

https://youtu.be/5LCv2aMoFCY?t=509

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

So, basically, they didn't feel pandered to while being pandered to?

[AnnoyedCanadian]

For Uncle:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[clockwork5]

But ultimately, ResetEra is not the vanguard of anything significantly important. Our conversational rules about not just AI, but literally anything here, are not going to have a strong material impact on any relevant industries or political processes. This is a space for minorities to talk about video games and other nerd shit without having to deal with the entire brunt of right-leaning chud bullshit from the rest of the gaming community on spaces like Reddit. That's all it is.

I’m sure that’s the exact pitch Cerium gave MOBA right before his nap.

[Potato]

Anyway, here's Nepenthe's tirades about human advancement because she's personally miserable from that Adobe thread, in case anyone still believes she isn't against everything but mandatory poverty, also bitching about users not knowing the unwritten rules again: https://www.resetera.com/threads/adobe-execs-say-artists-need-to-embrace-ai-or-get-left-behind.1019421/page-4#post-130663608

But I also know it's not pure evil and has some benefits, if properly understood and regulated.

You're on a planet undergoing ecological collapse right now because of unfettered and unregulated mass production and consumption poisoning the environment.

This is not going to be ethically regulated. It wasn't when Stability first laundered the data sets!

Shit, years ago, Google fired their people in charge of ethics.

Things are pointing toward YOLOing and fuck any and all consequences.
Like holy shit, if I hear one more person defend the shittiest of technologies with "it'll be fine if we regulate it," I'm going to scream.

Without technological advancements making us more productive you'd still be farming 16 hours a day to fill your belly with only local produce in a shit shack with cold wind blowing instead of being able to fill your belly buying food from another nation at your grocer with 30min of work. What you said isnt wrong but dont pretend the advancement of productivity efficiency didnt make our lives better. Tools making our time more efficient is what made us go from having to spend all our time being hunter gatherers to be able afford time to improve our lives and start civilizations.

This is basically just tech-colonialism, an extremely flat, context-less take on how technological advancement has hurt as much as it has helped.

Again, you're living through ecological collapse as a direct result of unregulated and careless technological and military advancement. And the reason we're not seeing a reversal anytime soon should be obvious!

Technology should ultimately be developed responsibly in tandem with concepts of conviviality and sustainability. Unfettered technological advancement under a capitalist lens is going to be the death of millions of us on the good route, and potentially billions on the bad route. The fact that a tool or an advancement has no inherent moral value in a vacuum is irrelevant because nothing exists in a vacuum anyways.

And yet, the modern culture is: «Go fast and break things»

People legitimately got pilled into believing that technological development on its own within a capitalist framework is going to save humanity from fascism and climate collapse instead of humans working together with one another to organize for our collective benefit.

Maybe the wires are a bit crossed but for me when I'm talking about "does it make our lives better" I meant in factors like how much fulfillment you get, how much work you do, how much free time you have, things in that sense and I would argue that those aspects were massively improved with increased sociatal productivity through technogy. I absolutely agree we arent being responsible and we are heading straight through a wall crashing with how reckless we are to the environnement and exploitation of others in pursuit of those goals.

But even then, I think parameters like "fulfillment" and "free time" must be examined in a more critical and dialectical lens. Like, the computer in a vacuum allows me more free time because of how fast it is at making calculations and processing data. But it also allows me unfettered access to addictive games and social media, potentially impacting the quality of free time it has in turn given me. Indeed, my social and mental health are significantly improved the more I get away from digital devices and spend time in nature or with other human beings, despite these being extreme advancements in technology that would kill a theoretical Victorian child, as it were lol.

But again, the computer doesn't exist in a vacuum. Nothing does. Our world is vastly interconnected and almost infinitely complex. Technological gains do not come without losses, sometimes very grave ones, somewhere, and the lie that every self-proclaimed pioneer, from Ford to Gore to Musk, has told us is that nothing but utopia and freedom await on the other side of whatever gadget they've helped cook up.

So yes, while it is undeniable that capitalism has led to advancements in productive output which in turn have led to more comfortable lifestyles for those lucky though to be born in the West, it is also undeniable that it has literally cost millions of lives from direct harms like chattel slavery to indirect harms like cancerous pollutants, to say nothing of the vast billions of people living in deliberately underdeveloped societies. Social and cultural connections have been made as well as torn; while I can speak to almost anyone in the world no matter where they are, the social fabric of standard American living is lonely, full of mistrust and perpetual grievance, and interactions meant to be transactional versus just quality time spent together, far moreso than in underdeveloped areas where communal ties are more maintained. And it goes on and on.

Tl;dr- my feeling about these false beliefs of technological utopia, these distinctly European, quasi-Christian ideas that we are meant to colonize and conquer everything with no regulations or second thoughts, all while living on a dying planet can be summed up with the poem "Whitey on the Moon."

this is such a frustrating reply. Jordan117 has gone out of their way to provide balanced information on AI for the benefit of this community, including obtaining mod approval for a thoughtful thread that ended up getting randomly shut down without warning. they aren't at all asking for recognition as a victim, they're saying this is an important topic for everyone in the world to keep abreast of, and yet era is arbitrarily limiting that discussion.

as i mentioned earlier in the thread, AI threatens my livelihood as a writer. that is precisely why i want to learn as much about it as possible so that i can make informed decisions about where to focus my work. the victims here are the people who aren't able to view or discuss up-to-date information on technology that might change their lives for better or worse.

AI discussion isn't wholesale banned. Industry trends are allowed to be posted here. There is also an AI-OT. Jordan's thread being locked was an admitted mistake, but the rule was ultimately to stop a lot of spam and fighting, which it succeeded in doing.

If you are looking instead for a place where people who either aren't in the arts or are more amenable to the technology can nag on artists who stand against the technology, or an overall safe space to be excited about AI content generation, you're not going to find that here. That was by design.

i don't want a safe space, i understand the concerns and criticisms and share many of them myself. i just think jordan is plainly right that the topic is singled out for harsh moderation here and i think that is probably not going to age well in the future or help anyone today.

Jordan isn't correct that this topic is singled out harshly compared to others when there are far more harsher bans on certain subjects here (try to talk about Hogwarts and see how fast you'll get cooked), and just as well moderation has faced more significant quagmires and fires than this regarding subjects being singled out. If anything, the AI ruling was actually one of the few things that went over well with the community at large.

But ultimately, ResetEra is not the vanguard of anything significantly important. Our conversational rules about not just AI, but literally anything here, are not going to have a strong material impact on any relevant industries or political processes. This is a space for minorities to talk about video games and other nerd shit without having to deal with the entire brunt of right-leaning chud bullshit from the rest of the gaming community on spaces like Reddit. That's all it is.

We don't actually owe it to anyone to curate this space in a way that takes into account "the future." We're not psychics. We instead owe that attention to this community to try and make the space they want, and unsurprisingly a community filled with exploited minorities, many of which are professional creatives, hate AI content generation and thus don't want the subject flooding the forum.

If anything, the fact that there is an OT and some guard rails is actually an olive branch, because I was gunning for a full conversational ban when discussing this with staff.

This is a strawman. Every time anyone wants to talk about this objectively important field more openly there's this gross kneejerk reaction to paint them as hateful techbro chuds who just want to troll artists and censor any criticism. It's insulting.

It's not a strawman. That childish attitude was specifically leading to enough fights and hundreds of reports that it prompted a staff discussion in the first place, and we permed our fair share of people over it before settling on the rule we did. It wasn't artists that were the primary problem, although we did ban a few of them as well for being way too antagonistic to folks who actually work in fields relating to AI. It was folks who were repeating corporate buzzwords about "democratization," calling artists outdated like coal miners, and largely just hassling them and acting like they don't know how to do their own damn job that were the problem.

AI proponents are primarily responsible for poisoning the well here. This is the result of their attitude towards artists.

And pretty hypocritical, given the de facto suppression of informational threads while simultaneously tolerating negative threads that spread misinformation or trigger inflammatory attacks on people who use AI or have an interest in it (which apparently you are now explicitly blessing? "Worst proponents" is a qualifier, I guess, but not one I have a lot of confidence in).

Again, the rule was ultimately a concession to not ban the topic outright. This is an anti-AI space, and staff don't necessarily owe it to anyone to make it more fair and neutral. Now, do I think we can be more consistent with how we lock threads? Yes absolutely. It would not personally bother me if you made a Frontier update thread, although I would not actually moderate anyone for being inflammatory towards the tech itself. Do I care that you think it's hypocritical that both staff and members are laxer towards anti-AI threads than neutrally or pro-AI threads? Not in the least.

Also this guy who has the same narcissistic belief as Nepenthe:

Do people really think they can stop AI and people/companies using it?

I don't give a fuck.

What's funny to me is that these creatively infertile deadheads think their shitty generative AI is even of interest to a genuine artist.

I've played around with it, seen its limitations and know it has absolutely to practical use to me. I could generate 100 versions of the same bastardised, distorted image, and not a single one would be what I want. As a 'tool' it has no place in my pipeline. It's useless shit.

I think what some people just can't get through their thick skulls is that artists create art because it's their passion. And if we're lucky, we get paid for doing something we love. And I think that galls those people.

I'm sure people and companies will continue to use AI, and that those same creatively infertile deadheads will think themselves artists because they typed 'Flying burger with wings' into a text field. I bet they all have to use chat GPT to write prompts for them too.

I know exactly what 'the bigger picture' you're advocating for will be.

A world in which commercial 'art' is produced by the least creative people on Earth. Just wall to wall endless dogshit.

Makes me really greatful to have had 44 years experiencing all of the art and media I have, and that I might be dead before 'the big picture' has swallowed everything worthwhile.

This all goes back to that age-old question from NeoGoof of, "What income do you need to have to be considered rich?"

Nepenthe and her retarded acolytes will never answer this question, but it's very clear that they all believe that ANYONE earning even $1 more than them is "rich" and should be murdered by guillotine. 

Nepenthe's whole world view is predicated on this fact and this fact alone. 

She is the most envious cunt in that whole place.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

I love how this bitch says Reddit is right leaning when you fucking know for a fact she probably posts on the site on multiple furry sub reddits and other stupid shit.

[Potato]

Buying a game to pwn the chuds 

Saying online you're going to buy the game to own the chuds while not buying it.

[Potato]

The whole GamerGate shit was so stupid, same with the Sweet Baby stuff right now. If you don't want to play a game that has had their consulting, just ignore it. There are developers and publishers that I avoid but I don't feel the need to go on about it and obsess over them.

ReeEra calling people chuds is basically second side of the same coin. They act just like the other side and don't even realize it. Just be normal for once in your lives, please. This terminally online shit does not appeal to the general public and they don't give a flying fuck about it.

I'm not trying to stand on a soapbox here and say I'm better than anyone (I'm not), it's just been annoying seeing this culture war shit for the past decade or so. I'd rather people get into arguments over what class in a game is better or which game is graphically better when they look almost identical.

Everyone in this type of argument is the retard. 

The only way to win the culture wars is not to play.

[Potato]

When I saw Bezos was worth over 200 billion, I did some math.

If Jeff Bezos liquidated only 1% of his net worth and sent a check to every single American for an equal amount, he would be sending every American over $5 million. If he left himself with only 100 billion net worth and liquidated the other half. Americans would each get $274 million.

I have nothing else to say other than fuck Billionaires.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mind-blowing-stat-about-bezos-net-worth.1021635/

He should do some more math 

...and basic economics.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

Cyberpunk let you make your character trans. You could be a chick with a dick or a man with a vagina. Where was the praise for that?

Oh right, the game was "transphobic" when it had a few well written trans characters who didn't make it their entire personality and ONE sexualized poster you would see around the world. There were FAR MORE sexualized posters of men and women and they didn't make a stink about that.

[Potato]

When I saw Bezos was worth over 200 billion, I did some math.
If Jeff Bezos liquidated only 1% of his net worth and sent a check to every single American for an equal amount, he would be sending every American over $5 million. If he left himself with only 100 billion net worth and liquidated the other half. Americans would each get $274 million.
I have nothing else to say other than fuck Billionaires.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mind-blowing-stat-about-bezos-net-worth.1021635/
He should do some more math  

Yes, yes, YES.  SAY IT LOUD FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK.  Say it with your whole ass.  No BILLIONAIRES ON EARTH BECAUSE WE CONTROL THE WORLD'S TAXES AND HUMAN CAPITAL MOVEMENT.  And sideye and ban anyone who says otherwise, with they whole ass.  ban they whole ass for everyone in the back

Does that include certified racist and very sleepy forum owners who sold their website to Swedish capitalist crypto bros?

[AnnoyedCanadian]

For a forum that hates Mr Beast they are pretty silent as of late

https://www.resetera.com/threads/former-mr-beast-employee-uploads-video-stating-mr-beast-is-a-fraud-and-his-company-morally-corrupt.936402/page-8#post-130756275

Hmm, can't figure out why. Maybe a certain personality who worked with him up until this year turned out to be a fucking creep. Nah, can't be that, can it?

[Uncle]

Anyway, here's Nepenthe's tirades about human advancement because she's personally miserable from that Adobe thread, in case anyone still believes she isn't against everything but mandatory poverty, also bitching about users not knowing the unwritten rules again: https://www.resetera.com/threads/adobe-execs-say-artists-need-to-embrace-ai-or-get-left-behind.1019421/page-4#post-130663608

Shit, years ago, Google fired their people in charge of ethics.

Things are pointing toward YOLOing and fuck any and all consequences.
Like holy shit, if I hear one more person defend the shittiest of technologies with "it'll be fine if we regulate it," I'm going to scream.

oh it won't be "fine if we regulate it"

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because existing regulations already cover any possible abuses without issue, whether that's infringement, nonconsensual pornography, it's all taken care of 

[DavidCroquet]

I love how this bitch says Reddit is right leaning when you fucking know for a fact she probably posts on the site on multiple furry sub reddits and other stupid shit.

Someone hasn’t read up on the intersectional gender spectrum holding spaces in community otherkin mutual aid centering marginalized disenfranchised unhoused!