Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/amazon-denies-time-off-to-worker-hit-by-bourbon-street-truck-and-shot-then-backtracks-after-story-goes-viral.1073832/

The article he posted doesn’t focus about this, like at all. Just this:

The Amazon warehouse where she works originally denied her request for a leave of absence, but the company said in a statement Friday that they've since spoken with her and given her time off with pay.

Maybe this was big at social media but why bother in giving any context for the people not obsessed with it?

 lol burn it down

“Shoot Amazon warehouses!”

[HaughtyFrank]

A lot of it is a lot easier to understand when you remember that ResetEra is a direct off-shoot of a forum in NeoGAF that very gleefully had its own "Draw Muhammad Day." I don't doubt many of the same people drifted over here. Basically a direct "fuck you" to its own very liberal Muslim community.

This place is not the actual left-wing's wet dream. When even a default reddit sub of all things like r/news has its head on a lot more straight when it comes to Palestine, that's all you really need to know. Because that bar is subterranean.

ResetEra is the most bizarre "progressive" forum I have ever been a part of, by far, both at once beautiful and open yet in some ways also oddly reactionary and regressive, and even conservative. I tend to charitably think people hate religion as a whole here so much that it also extends to Muslims, and they deeply struggle with some makeshift cognitive dissonance there, that doesn't actually exist.

That he's still bitter over this tells me a lot about him. Probably a fundamentalist piece of shit. Think about it, in the entire history of Nepgaf, this was the most singular islamophobic event to him

[benji]

If everything is political then nothing is. The phrase is completely meaningless. It's like the "there's no ethical consumption under capitalism" statement. It says nothing of any value.

the implication there is "switch to communism and then you can be totally ethical" 

It's a technically true statement because communism doesn't have "consumption" as we know it, it only has production for use. "Unnecessary" things aren't produced, only what the central planners determine is to be needed is produced which is then allocated as the central planners determine. There's "ethical consumption" because there are no alternatives, there is only the distribution of the production. The former "consumer" is liberated from the problem of making unethical choices because there is no choice, there is only ethical existence. (Defined as doing only what you're ordered to do, what is not forbidden is mandatory.)

[BIONIC]

Wasn’t Zeliard a gaf mod?

[benji]

Related to that, while we're reading Marx:

do they not have grandparents? everyone knows old people like to have a task/reason to wake up in the morning. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-new-retirement-is-no-retirement-baby-boomers-are-keeping-jobs-well-into-their-sixties-and-seventies-because-they-%E2%80%98like-going-to-work%E2%80%99.1073721/

I think they're brainwashed by capitalism.

Like...what?

I think they're brainwashed by capitalism.

Yep, if I could never work again I would retire in a heartbeat. I was trying to explain to my dad during our last visit how I've learned that I get very little satisfaction out of actual work; and I only view work as a way to pay for my lifestyle and hobbies. His response was "well that's a sad way to look at work, right?"

But… your dad is right. Is sad and is worse that you don’t get his point.

You guys will still be considered parasites and bloodsuckers in the Communist socialist utopia.

As Marx said, the goal of abolishing capitalism is a society where "labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want."

They think they're anti-capitalists, but their goal is the opposite of what every socialist ever has wanted and how every form of socialism has been designed. They want a society of such great capitalist abundance that what are now considered luxuries become everyday items. But they're explicitly opposed to the thing that has done that time and time again to create our current existence. Many of their prominent members, most notably Nepenthe, explicitly argues for increasing the amount of things that are luxuries purely for the rich or connected and how it would be a crime to increase access to more resources especially globally.

Marx is the reference case because the things they most demand and spend all their wealth on are the very things he identified as the problem of capitalist alienation and the thing that most needed to be completely abolished: commodities.

[DavidCroquet]

The funniest part of that story is when the poster said, "I asked him if he was a serial killer and a human trafficker and he said no he wasn't a serial killer...but said nothing about whether or not he was a human trafficker.  I cracked the case!"

When some of these trans folxxx talk about human trafficking and serial murderers, it practically sounds like envy.

Tyrant here is wishcasting…it’s the shared aspiration of all high femmes to live in fear of sexualized violence. 

“I’ve made it, girls! 💅”

[benji]

It's transphobic to say you wouldn't do sexualized violence to a woman just because she's trans, you aren't an ally if you won't human traffic and serial murder trans women.

[Steven Snell]

If I was trans. I'd be fucking furious that Melody and co is making it some trans character trait to beg for money and it being the norm for that group.

[remy]

experiencing the gender euphoria of being raped abducted and trafficked

[kaleidoscopium]

Surprised no one has mentioned that this also a donation to the "please don't put me in the LGBTQ+ camps" fund

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tim-cook-personally-donates-1m-to-donald-trump-inauguration.1073679/page-4#post-133799706

[shogun314]

Related to that, while we're reading Marx:

do they not have grandparents? everyone knows old people like to have a task/reason to wake up in the morning. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-new-retirement-is-no-retirement-baby-boomers-are-keeping-jobs-well-into-their-sixties-and-seventies-because-they-%E2%80%98like-going-to-work%E2%80%99.1073721/

I think they're brainwashed by capitalism.

Like...what?

I think they're brainwashed by capitalism.

Yep, if I could never work again I would retire in a heartbeat. I was trying to explain to my dad during our last visit how I've learned that I get very little satisfaction out of actual work; and I only view work as a way to pay for my lifestyle and hobbies. His response was "well that's a sad way to look at work, right?"

But… your dad is right. Is sad and is worse that you don’t get his point.

You guys will still be considered parasites and bloodsuckers in the Communist socialist utopia.

As Marx said, the goal of abolishing capitalism is a society where "labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want."

They think they're anti-capitalists, but their goal is the opposite of what every socialist ever has wanted and how every form of socialism has been designed. They want a society of such great capitalist abundance that what are now considered luxuries become everyday items. But they're explicitly opposed to the thing that has done that time and time again to create our current existence. Many of their prominent members, most notably Nepenthe, explicitly argues for increasing the amount of things that are luxuries purely for the rich or connected and how it would be a crime to increase access to more resources especially globally.

Marx is the reference case because the things they most demand and spend all their wealth on are the very things he identified as the problem of capitalist alienation and the thing that most needed to be completely abolished: commodities.

Why are they against commodities?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politics-is-bad-for-business-why-disneys-bob-iger-is-trying-to-avoid-hot-buttons.1073334/page-3#post-133799721

The diversity from Disney and other large corpos is a progressive facade. The number one goal for these studios are profit. In some or most cases, having a diverse cast can lead to more profit. But even if it doesn't, studios like Disney knows they can rely on an army of defenders to focus on combating the anti-DEI/racist/misogynistic chuds. Doing that distracts from their dirty business practices and quality of work.

Hollywood will never care about marginalized folks until it comes down to protecting their pockets. And one thing they are very good at is obfuscating predatory business practices. They do this by having identity politics as a scapegoat. They're able to get people to argue about the wokeness or argue with the anti-woke crowd and Hollywood wins every time. Every time. It takes nothing for these studios to get people to hold up their diverse projects as the next best thing for our culture, ignoring the smaller independent film projects that are diverse because they want to be.

We all know the chuds are racist and should be called out. But that shouldn't be used as a flame shield from criticism AND it shouldn't be the dominant conversation surrounding a piece of media. Projects with a diverse cast that score low with audiences are bad because they're bad… not because they're diverse.

[Uncle]

they're not bad because they're diverse, they're bad because diversity is considered a primary goal of the filmmaking, above story, about logic

[Cauliflower Of Love]

they're not bad because they're diverse, they're bad because diversity is considered a primary goal of the filmmaking, above story, about logic

The fact that coogler and michael b had to go outside the disney empire to make a blade movie they wanted to should tell you this.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

omg the things i'd do to michael b jordan if he let me

[benji]

Why are they against commodities?

Marx defines commodities as anything that you trade for. Trading for something rather than producing it yourself is what creates alienation. Marx gets around the problem of division of labor by defining "yourself" as society once communism is achieved. Since you produce for society aka yourself, it's fine for you to get things others produce since you're not trading for them. Marx rejects the idea that you're trading your labor to the state that then distributes the goods to you based on your labor, it's all "working for yourself" because you and society are one and the same once we eliminate capitalism. There won't be individuals under communism, simply liberated workers who do as society demands and have no interests outside of those society has. Having interests that differ from the group is the problem introduced by man's fall from the bliss of primitive communism.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

When I tell the guy making my Subway sandwich that Jeff is a huge fucking cunt, he has no idea what I mean. That's why i love the Bire.

You gotta tell him that Zeo is a huge fucking cunt.

All Subway sandwich artists know this.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Lady dimitrescu is a man trying to hook up with a man.

This is the same guy that was asking people to DM him to discuss trans and LGBT stuff.

He posted this in that thread:

I already have plenty of people I inflict pain on and they volunteer it 😈

I don't feel safe.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pulitzer-prize-winning-wapo-cartoonist-ann-telnaes-resigns-following-censorship-of-latest-comic.1073856/#post-133803144

It's been in the making for decades now. We are just seeing the fruits of their labor. To be frank, there is nothing we could so about it. All that matters is to take care of yourself and the people you care about. This world is lost and things will get worse for sure.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

liberal democracy?

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pulitzer-prize-winning-wapo-cartoonist-ann-telnaes-resigns-following-censorship-of-latest-comic.1073856/#post-133803144

It's been in the making for decades now. We are just seeing the fruits of their labor. To be frank, there is nothing we could so about it. All that matters is to take care of yourself and the people you care about. This world is lost and things will get worse for sure.

"Um, actually this isn't censorship, Wapo simply decided to edit their paper to localize it to what they believe their audience wants."

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pulitzer-prize-winning-wapo-cartoonist-ann-telnaes-resigns-following-censorship-of-latest-comic.1073856/#post-133803144

It's been in the making for decades now. We are just seeing the fruits of their labor. To be frank, there is nothing we could so about it. All that matters is to take care of yourself and the people you care about. This world is lost and things will get worse for sure.

Funniest part is who he's quoting, you can pretend it's about Concord:

It really does feel like liberal democracy is dead, and that the global fascist movement is about to kick into overdrive.

What's got me really concerned is that the fascists are likely to be in full/majority control of both "the pen" (the ability and mechanisms to broadly culturally influence) AND "the sword" (military might) if the United States does truly embrace fascism. And it's incredibly difficult to think that it's not going to happen now.

The US is one of if not the largest cultural exporter(s) the world over. And it's already been exporting the culture of fascism via the internet and its social media platforms for awhile now. So what's going to happen when the little plausible deniability that's left evaporates and it's full bore naked fascist totalitarian governance here in the States?

It doesn't feel like there is going to be an "Allied Forces" this time around. That liberal democracy is just going to fully roll over, consumed and pacified from within.

That the people typically concerned and obessed with the ideas of tyranny and liberty are going to be the stormtroopers who ensure the fascist tyranny is entrenched.

Hard not to think that all of the serious choices that lay ahead aren't all going to some degree of disastrous no matter what.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

So they got a new beef with Bernie because the guy that has spent like 125 years in congress might know what he's talking about with h1b visas?

[benji]

NYT and WP have eroded all their credibility. Not shocking and honestly to be expected after they were bought out by billionaires. Now they can control everything they publish.

The Washington Post, LA Times, and NY Times are all pro-oligarch/Trump media at this point. It's really fucking tragic how these institutions have been taken over, and I'm sure there's more coming.

The Sulzberger family has owned the NYT since 1896. And Bezos bought the WaPo from a billionaire family that had owned it since 1933. The LA Times was bought (in 2000) off a family that owned it since 1882, the current owners bought it when Tribune (multi-billion dollar conglomerate) went bankrupt. 

[Eric Cartman]

They are not doing because they give a fuck about DEI or whatever, they are doing it because they don’t want to pay the old actors what they demand.

Point slightly undermined by them paying RDJ what I'm sure amounts to the GDP of a former soviet bloc country to come back as a totally different character which will go completely unacknowledged outside of a future deadpool deleted scene

[Eric Cartman]

The problem with most politics in domestic movies is that they take a hard criticism against our own culture in the last 10 years. You think the average citizen wants to see that anymore these days? Hell fucking no. The previous decade was all about that, and the majority are tired of it. Especially when the new generation is about to take over, and let’s face it, the majority white American doesn’t want to be pushed around by future workplace politics Just because of centuries old imperial culture. As well as white males being pushed around.

The problem is the people pushing their politics are fucking shit writers first and foremost and don't have enough respect for their audiences to write allegories and parables that offer food for thought and a little depth to what should ultimately be a solid piece of entertainment as a baseline, instead relying on hammer you on the head polemics with characters that are less motivationally believable than a Captain Planet villain.

[Eric Cartman]

Draw Muhammad Day is deeply offensive to this progressive, enlightened, and modern religious tradition.

And fuck Salman Rushdie.

Its doubly offensive that one sect decided its a sin punishable by death (because its not in the fucking Quran) and literally centuries of art history from their own fucking culture is instantly erased as badthink.

Its fucking indefenisible to pretend 'liberal muslims' are fine with book burning and murdering artists.

[Eric Cartman]

We need to support well intentioned attempts at character diversity regardless of whether or not we like the games themselves. ...
What I'm saying is essentially, lets never do a Forspoken dogpile again

this is such a psychotic take on what art is, even at the most mainstream commercial level

[Besticus Maximus]

Yes that's right, you have to pretend that shit games are good for the health of the forum 

[Eric Cartman]

Speaking of politics this is an amusing one to contrast with their reaction to Snyder, where they were outraged that the films depicted a world and characters both effected by and responding in various ways to just the existence of Superman. They prefer the safety of the MCU where literal gods fly around and the status quo of our world remains completely unchanged. Where half of everyone disappears for five years, possibly the most traumatic event in human history, and nobody talks about it much. These guys bitch about how evil everyone else in our society is, but they got upset that the Snyderverse's masses didn't embrace Superman immediately and few trusted him. "Missing the point of Superman." Or taking the character and concept seriously in a world where some people are willing to draw Muhammed.

Arguably you could expand this to an overall DC vs. Marvel thing because that's how the comics are. The Marvel Universe even has the same President as our world, there's been six decades plus with zero technological trickle-down from anything that's happened since Reed Richards launched that space flight. (Ultimate Marvel was different however.) DC comes up with elaborately stupid explanations for why their universe tracks ours so closely in design. (Essentially our world is the actual "true" Earth in DC that the others are vibrations of.) Though they from time to time do show that there's been a trickle-out through LexCorp and Wayne Enterprises at minimum, so the DC Universe often seems to be a few years ahead of ours. I'd argue that it is especially so in medical technology, there's remarkably little death.

I remember one of the DC vs Marvel crossover comics, where Captain America is fucking disgusted by the hero worship of the Justice League in general and Superman in particular in their own universe, because the Marvel heroes are generally more underpowered and also generally have a more antagonistic relationship with both the authorities and the citizens they try to protect and he assumes the DCU supes must be up to no good enthralling the population.
Like, Captain America making Richard Nixon Become An Hero is still fucking canon in the 616