Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Boredfrom]

Can't do without another ROFLCOPTER HILARIOUS op post from krazen, huh?

Anyone else and is going to trigger NepNep. 

Krazen admitted that doesn’t mind grifters as long is on his side, so expect slow conversion to Trumptard.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-4-5-intermission-keys-more-like-uhhmmm-i-got-nothing-today.962805/page-1646#post-134292120

Usually we leave that to community members

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/

First of all, thanks to RUFF BEEST for setting up the new OT! Apologies for changing the ticket at the last minute (*rimshot*), but due to rampant ego driven greed I am going to take over the OT to help keep things on the rails behind the scenes. It's a bit sloppy in transfer, but since there's a new hope and optimism in the OT over the last 24 hours I didn't want to scrap it and start over, lets keep this energy going and always remember kid, fuck a nazi © Death Grips.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-4-5-intermission-keys-more-like-uhhmmm-i-got-nothing-today.962805/page-1647#post-134300334

I had spoken to krazen in DMs about taking it over a couple of months ago and was told essentially 'Potentially!' so I mean, I could still do it and would be happy to do so. I'm always around and have enough experience through all the various OT iterations to manage it.

Would just go for it, think most of us want a fresh OT at this point.

Do not.

Lol, that edit: 

EDIT: Internal discussions are on-going. But, considering history, we are very sensitive to any sort of changes made to this OT. So just bare with us a bit. But we do hear you.

FTFY fatty 

EDIT: considering history, we are very sensitive.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

[kaleidoscopium]

“Considering history” 

Translation “previous poliEra posters figured out that nepenthe is a retarded antisemite and talked about it on a discord”

[Boredfrom]

Remember, Krazen don’t mind hustles, but that the money doesn’t go to his side.

These (insert slur of choice here) are tryin' to move into the white man's grift. These funds should be going into white scammer pockets! Privatization. "Business Consultants" (shouts to McKinsey), etc.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/barbara-furlow-smiles-former-facebook-and-nike-diversity-manager-gets-5-years-in-prison-for-5-million-fraud.874416/

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion-2024.859116/page-26#post-134274960

It would also help if parts of this forum would stop talking down to women as if we're stupid or thinking that because they have wives or girlfriends they're suddenly the experts on a topic as a lukewarm attempt to try and dismiss the concerns of other women actually speaking. Okay, great. You have an SO, and her opinion is about the same weight as everyone else's, not more because you said so or found the one needle in a haystack that agrees with your hot take. Nothing is more frustrating than trying to have your argument debunked by some dude on here who said his girlfriend, his wife, his sister, his mother, his cousin twice removed who lives out in Montana, etc. thinks differently and therefore is the sole living evidence that your own opinion is wrong.

It's not surprising that a lot of women on this forum don't speak up half of the time because of the snarking, dogpiling, dismissing, etc.

This poster (2.4k posts) has appeared on the scene relatively recently with a lot to say....but as far as I can see, none of it referring to conversations that have actually happened on-site, maybe I've missed them - anyway, throwing it out there.

Pure cult behaviour. 

"No, don't listen to that guy telling you about the thoughts of the other women in his life. Listen to only the women  on THIS site. You can't trust THOSE women at all."

People like Naiad never explain why the fuck should I give more weight to them, some stranger on the internet I don't know, versus the people I know, love, and interact with daily. How does that make any sense?

[Taco Bell Tower]

Had to register just so I could share this shot and chaser:





edit: fixed

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-rivals-quick-play-is-infested-with-bots-and-netease-put-them-there.1080339/page-12#post-134249304

Worth noting our Palworld loving young lady fled the thread instead of replying or altering her profile.
Will we get another meltdown?

He finally set it to Female.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion-2024.859116/page-26#post-134274960


This poster (2.4k posts) has appeared on the scene relatively recently with a lot to say....but as far as I can see, none of it referring to conversations that have actually happened on-site, maybe I've missed them - anyway, throwing it out there.

Pure cult behaviour. 

"No, don't listen to that guy telling you about the thoughts of the other women in his life. Listen to only the women  on THIS site. You can't trust THOSE women at all."

People like Naiad never explain why the fuck should I give more weight to them, some stranger on the internet I don't know, versus the people I know, love, and interact with daily. How does that make any sense?

What they don't understand is that a purely identity based argument isn't a very solid argument. When you counter their identity argument with the most obvious counter "I know someone who is also that identity and agrees with me" they simply get mad. 
It's just super shallow and it's so embarrassing that the mods encourage it

[railGUN]

Newsfeed plz.

Can we please drop the derail around Chick-fil-A and concentrate on the topic at hand.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wild-fires-continue-to-burn-in-southern-california-10-deaths-13-000-structures-impacted-35-000-acres-burned.1075410/page-29

[kaleidoscopium]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-rivals-quick-play-is-infested-with-bots-and-netease-put-them-there.1080339/page-12#post-134249304

Worth noting our Palworld loving young lady fled the thread instead of replying or altering her profile.
Will we get another meltdown?

He finally set it to Female.

because it's set to that by default

it's fixed now

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-rivals-quick-play-is-infested-with-bots-and-netease-put-them-there.1080339/page-14#post-134301300

Incredible if so

[Taco Bell Tower]

Worth noting our Palworld loving young lady fled the thread instead of replying or altering her profile.
Will we get another meltdown?

He finally set it to Female.

because it's set to that by default

it's fixed now

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-rivals-quick-play-is-infested-with-bots-and-netease-put-them-there.1080339/page-14#post-134301300

Incredible if so

He lies, it didn't when it first came out.  We were given the option 

[Propagandhim]

Remember, Krazen don’t mind hustles, but that the money doesn’t go to his side.

These (insert slur of choice here) are tryin' to move into the white man's grift. These funds should be going into white scammer pockets! Privatization. "Business Consultants" (shouts to McKinsey), etc.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/barbara-furlow-smiles-former-facebook-and-nike-diversity-manager-gets-5-years-in-prison-for-5-million-fraud.874416/

Sounds like someone who got hit on the head by an anvil and are just spitting out random words.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Ah. The "I'm Trans" defense. Let's see how well this works out for tyrazaurus when they have their next breakdown.

[Nintex]

It's really amazing how this absolute retarded shitposter somehow trolled himself into the most powerful position in the world not once but twice.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion-2024.859116/page-26#post-134274960


This poster (2.4k posts) has appeared on the scene relatively recently with a lot to say....but as far as I can see, none of it referring to conversations that have actually happened on-site, maybe I've missed them - anyway, throwing it out there.

Pure cult behaviour. 

"No, don't listen to that guy telling you about the thoughts of the other women in his life. Listen to only the women  on THIS site. You can't trust THOSE women at all."

People like Naiad never explain why the fuck should I give more weight to them, some stranger on the internet I don't know, versus the people I know, love, and interact with daily. How does that make any sense?

One would hope men listen to their wives or sisters rather than a stranger on the internet offering opposing views on women's issues.

Like, am I crazy or something? What kind of feminist would say listen to the man (or woman who was a man up until 6 months ago) over his own wife?

[Jeff_at_the_laughfactory]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-rivals-quick-play-is-infested-with-bots-and-netease-put-them-there.1080339/page-12#post-134249304

Worth noting our Palworld loving young lady fled the thread instead of replying or altering her profile.
Will we get another meltdown?

He finally set it to Female.

Worth noting our Palworld loving young lady fled the thread instead of replying or altering her profile.
Will we get another meltdown?

He finally set it to Female.

because it's set to that by default

it's fixed now

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-rivals-quick-play-is-infested-with-bots-and-netease-put-them-there.1080339/page-14#post-134301300

Incredible if so

The Laugh Factory takes another L

[Propagandhim]

He finally set it to Female.

because it's set to that by default

it's fixed now

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-rivals-quick-play-is-infested-with-bots-and-netease-put-them-there.1080339/page-14#post-134301300

Incredible if so

He lies, it didn't when it first came out.  We were given the option 

There's no way it defaults to male  .  Even he recognizes the absurdity of saying, "Well 2 weeks ago I was a guy and now I'm not." so he's trying to lie to avoid that.

[killamajig]

He finally set it to Female.

because it's set to that by default

it's fixed now

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-rivals-quick-play-is-infested-with-bots-and-netease-put-them-there.1080339/page-14#post-134301300

Incredible if so

He lies, it didn't when it first came out.  We were given the option 

Yeah, the account I made defaults to *BLANK SPACE* and you get to pick or leave it blank.

So.........He thought he was on his female persona and could get the easy "gotcha ban". He's getting his fake characters mixed up.

[Propagandhim]

I'd first believe ISIS is building STEM schools for little girls in Afghanistan before i believed Resetera has their forum software default gender to male

[Besticus Maximus]

I guess part of that has to do with the late Deem Bristow's performance (coming up on 20 years since he died actually) but Eggman in this game just feels like a no nonsense guy this time, even trying to blow up Sonic in a capsule.

But some of the quotes just feel like Eggman is serious this time.

"You're too slow! Sonic if you don't come here, she WILL die!"

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/#post-134245173

User banned (2 weeks): conspiracy theories

People in this thread are extremely gullible. This just shows that a ceasefire could have been done momths ago and Trump likely wanted it extended for his own benefit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-3#post-134246871

User banned (2 weeks): conspiracy theories

This is America and hence Biden's genocide as much as Israel's. Acting like Biden is a hapless fool getting strung along by Netanyahu is just not accurate. Biden has been a staunch Zionist for decades.

No it's not accurate. What's accurate is that Netenyahu worked all year with Trump to prolong the war until after the US election.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-9#post-134275272

User Banned (2 Weeks): Conspiracy Theorizing

I guarantee yall that US special forces will be doing missions with Israel in Palestine/Lebanon within a year of trumps inauguration.

Absolutely ridiculous to believe trump/netanyahu partnership will bring peace to Middle East

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134280942

User banned (2 weeks): conspiracy theories

the bombs may stop, but the apartheid continues. So much death it's gross
Edit: Also Trump didn't help he extended it for political gain

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134281947

User banned (permanent): concern trolling; prior history of supporting alt right figures and a previous ban for bigoted commentary

Good on Trump actually done something positive for once

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134282247

User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory commentary

Michigan voters actually did the right thing huh

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134283585

User banned (2 weeks): conspiracy theories

I didn't mean to come across as personally hostile. So apologies for that.

I was just responding to you saying that Trump "extended" the conflict and I just don't think he meaningfully did. Biden, Harris and the dems wanted this. TBH I think many dems (not referring to you LilZippa) were gleeful at the prospect of Trump somehow being "worse" for Palestinians and those support who them.

mean it's obvious that the conflict was extended to give trump a win. There is historical precedence for this with Iran, Vietnam etc. they are literally accepting what the Biden team already negotiated. I think it can be both frustrating that this was needlessly prolonged due to trump and being upset that Biden didn't apply more pressure.

“trump and bibi colluded on this for mutual benefit” BAN
“trump did something good, thank god” PERMANENT BAN

no discussion on the discussion forum!

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

All it needs is someone posting "Trump" to see how it will go.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134282247

User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory commentary

Michigan voters actually did the right thing huh

Shouldn't have been ban worthy since those voters were single issue ones who wanted a ceasefire. #UnbanMcbel

[DavidCroquet]

It's really amazing how this absolute retarded shitposter somehow trolled himself into the most powerful position in the world not once but twice.

I know being the official PoliEra OT creator is nothing to sneeze at, but I feel like you’re giving Krazen a bit too much credit.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-13#post-134306829

Trump's not even president again yet so how is he getting credit for this?

His team are in Qatar.

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-169#post-134223720

Nah, I agree.

America chose to vote for racism and I'm expected to believe they'll show up for a black Captain America??

Hell this movies threads are a small step away from straight up posting #NotMyCaptainAmerica with the whole "Mackie is no leading man!" "I can't tell you why but something about this film just feels off" and "Mackie doesn't Have Evans Charisma"

Then there's the fact that the movie was heavily reworked and tests haven't been great.

I fear we might have reached a no-win scenario. Which will be yet another blow to diverse led Marvel films under the watch of a Disney that now wants nothing to do with "Woke".

Has a different response but fact checking myself here. Twisted Metal is getting a second season. 

After two weeks, the series became Peacock's "most-binged" comedy premiere to date. According to Nielsen data, it was one of the most watched streaming originals, with 400 million viewing minutes in the weekend following its premiere.

Most-binged comedy on peacock! 400 million viewing minutes!!

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/#post-134245173

User banned (2 weeks): conspiracy theories

People in this thread are extremely gullible. This just shows that a ceasefire could have been done momths ago and Trump likely wanted it extended for his own benefit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-3#post-134246871

User banned (2 weeks): conspiracy theories

No it's not accurate. What's accurate is that Netenyahu worked all year with Trump to prolong the war until after the US election.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-9#post-134275272

User Banned (2 Weeks): Conspiracy Theorizing

I guarantee yall that US special forces will be doing missions with Israel in Palestine/Lebanon within a year of trumps inauguration.

Absolutely ridiculous to believe trump/netanyahu partnership will bring peace to Middle East

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134280942

User banned (2 weeks): conspiracy theories

the bombs may stop, but the apartheid continues. So much death it's gross
Edit: Also Trump didn't help he extended it for political gain

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134281947

User banned (permanent): concern trolling; prior history of supporting alt right figures and a previous ban for bigoted commentary

Good on Trump actually done something positive for once

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134282247

User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory commentary

Michigan voters actually did the right thing huh

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-and-hamas-on-the-brink-of-a-ceasefire-deal-following-pressure-from-trump-update-hamas-accept-deal.1081347/page-10#post-134283585

User banned (2 weeks): conspiracy theories

mean it's obvious that the conflict was extended to give trump a win. There is historical precedence for this with Iran, Vietnam etc. they are literally accepting what the Biden team already negotiated. I think it can be both frustrating that this was needlessly prolonged due to trump and being upset that Biden didn't apply more pressure.

“trump and bibi colluded on this for mutual benefit” BAN
“trump did something good, thank god” PERMANENT BAN

no discussion on the discussion forum!

Everything but ban HamasEra.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion-2024.859116/page-26#post-134274960

It would also help if parts of this forum would stop talking down to women as if we're stupid or thinking that because they have wives or girlfriends they're suddenly the experts on a topic as a lukewarm attempt to try and dismiss the concerns of other women actually speaking. Okay, great. You have an SO, and her opinion is about the same weight as everyone else's, not more because you said so or found the one needle in a haystack that agrees with your hot take. Nothing is more frustrating than trying to have your argument debunked by some dude on here who said his girlfriend, his wife, his sister, his mother, his cousin twice removed who lives out in Montana, etc. thinks differently and therefore is the sole living evidence that your own opinion is wrong.

It's not surprising that a lot of women on this forum don't speak up half of the time because of the snarking, dogpiling, dismissing, etc.

This poster (2.4k posts) has appeared on the scene relatively recently with a lot to say....but as far as I can see, none of it referring to conversations that have actually happened on-site, maybe I've missed them - anyway, throwing it out there.

They don't want a discussion forum they want a public journal that people are forced to read. If your argument can't hold up to the scrutiny of a person (real or otherwise) not actively involved in your echochamber then it may be time to rethink your argument. It's no wonder every other post there is banned for dismissing concerns.

[BIONIC]

Random constructive dump. Too lazy/tired to provide commentary, but some fun stuff here:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Does anyone have any ideas on how to improve posting quality? It's been a while now that I've had the sense that the average level of posting has taken a nosedive quality wise. Many threads are dominated by drivebys, snark and various amounts of toxicity. Is there anything that can be done or is it futile to even try? How can people be encouraged to put more effort in their posts?

In terms of this, there's only so much we can do on our end. We try our best to be good examples in these threads, though we sometimes fail as humans do, but it needs to be understood that everyone is fighting against the tide of the modern internet. Social media algorithms will actively reward the exact sort of behaviors that you talk about because they're what generates engagement most reliably. Ill-informed hot takes, snarky nonsense, and toxic nonsense are what gets people going viral. This is exactly the sort of thing we've been discussing how to fight internally for literally years now. I remember talking about it way back in like 2019.

I would say, probably, the best way to promote better discussion and whatnot is to not even engage with the sort of posts you are talking about and engage with the posters trying to have a real discussion. When people see their drive-bys and snark don't get them the same engagement they get on twitter or tiktok or whatever, they'll change their ways. The whole thing is learned behavior from other parts of the internet and so long as it keeps getting them engagement, they'll keep doing it.

A karma system. Posted about it a few days ago but didn't get any responses lol. Thoughts?


This was in the context of helping mods make more informed decisions with bans but also could have a direct impact on the quality of posts if people start realizing they’re being “seen” for their efforts, even just on a backend level of building your profile history.

So, there's a bit of an issue here and it's largely the same with the idea of a likes system: what happens when people upvote (or whatever) a post that is low-key bigoted that we need to ban? We've been in a position where we've had to ban "popular" posts because they were just bigoted and either nobody realized it or thought the bigotry was justified or just didn't care and it's always been a dumpsterfire. Every single time. It's even worse when we have to ban a popular poster for constantly breaking the rules and thinking they are immune and that their popularity protects them from consequence.

It's not a bad idea, but we have to consider all the potential ramifications of doing it. From history, we know that even smaller changes can have outsized effects and make our lives a living hell in the future.

I don't know how to tackle this problem, or if it's even worth it.

It's increasingly difficult to talk about things I like or am enthusiastic about. Everything here is always surrounded by a deep and thick shroud of cynicism and negativity, I think I just can't anymore.

And god forbid I happen to have a slightly different opinion than the status quo dictated by social media, then I'm in for a very bad time. It dawned on me today in a thread I started. Here, trying to have friendly debates and healthy thought exchanges is so soul draining and always ends up being essentially impossible. Why should I continue trying? I'm not that masochistic.

During most of my time here all I wanted was to discuss things I love. It's of no interest to me to go into threads talking about stuff I dislike or don't care about, I mainly just want to share my enthusiasm about things that make me passionate and happy.

Why does it all feel so disheartening and soul crushing all of a sudden?

People just seem to only want to pound on each other lately. I don't know if it's the aftereffects of the election, of the pandemic, or just a general sentiment that's been brewing on the internet for years and finally boiled over in 2024, but on a general level it just feels like people (not just here!) only seem to get joy out of knowing they made someone else's day worse, either by catching them in a rhetoric trap or rubbing their nose in a mistake they believe they made.

The state of everything has probably bittered almost everyone to some extent. Not surprising to see it directly tie into lower forum quality.

Thank you everyone for your replies to my question about posting quality, I read all of them carefully. It seems pretty much everyone agrees that the current state of the internet and social media in general encourages toxicity and snark. It would be very hard to snap people out of that behavior through punishment since it is so ingrained everywhere.

So here's my idea after reading all of your posts: what if we create a new type of thread that is all about thoughtful discussion of a topic? A possible name that came to me is "Deep Dive", followed by the topic that will be discussed, like so:

"Deep Dive: The future of Xbox"
"Deep Dive: The biggest challenges for the games industry"
"Deep Dive: Switch 2 as a competitor to Playstation"

The topics were chosen randomly. The threads would have a clear declaration in the OP (maybe a standard one for all of them) that the posters that will want to participate will be held to a higher standard and will be expected to present thoughtful arguments and avoid hostility or snark. Those rules could be enforced via warnings and thread bans if the administration thinks this would be an interesting experiment worth trying.

The general idea is to create a better type of thread that carries more 'prestige' and that people will want to post in, thus they will have to put more thought and effort into their posts.

[DavidCroquet]

what happens when people upvote (or whatever) a post that is low-key bigoted that we need to ban?

Am I stupid or is this a massive non-issue? If a post breaks the rules, why would a 👍 adjacent to a number be any kind of obstacle?

From history, we know that even smaller changes can have outsized effects and make our lives a living hell in the future.

Seems like you may have diagnosed the actual issue here, dubs.

[books]

but on a general level it just feels like people (not just here!) only seem to get joy out of knowing they made someone else's day worse, either by catching them in a rhetoric trap or rubbing their nose in a mistake they believe they made.

Even planetsmash is right once or twice like a dumb clock.

what happens when people upvote (or whatever) a post that is low-key bigoted that we need to ban?

Am I stupid or is this a massive non-issue? If a post breaks the rules, why would a 👍 adjacent to a number be any kind of obstacle?

From history, we know that even smaller changes can have outsized effects and make our lives a living hell in the future.

Seems like you may have diagnosed the actual issue here, dubs.

It would prove that chuds were inside the house all along. And also, that the prominent members, who don't exist btw, are extremely unpopular.