Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)
(03-16-2025, 09:37 AM)nampad wrote: Dog* owners are idiots. They always put their stinking ball of fur over other people.
And don’t get me started on all the piss and shit everywhere. Yeah sure, I totally believe you always clean it 🙄

*insert every other pet you want and it stays true.

I know this is the “Place… Place, Japan!” meme but one of the culture shocks I’ve had are dog owners carrying bottles to wash areas where the dogs pee and poo. Especially considering most Japanese men just don’t wash their hands after using the restroom.
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(03-16-2025, 10:01 AM)Polident wrote:
(03-16-2025, 09:37 AM)nampad wrote: Dog* owners are idiots. They always put their stinking ball of fur over other people.
And don’t get me started on all the piss and shit everywhere. Yeah sure, I totally believe you always clean it 🙄

*insert every other pet you want and it stays true.

I know this is the “Place… Place, Japan!” meme but one of the culture shocks I’ve had are dog owners carrying bottles to wash areas where the dogs pee and poo. Especially considering most Japanese men just don’t wash their hands after using the restroom.

So they just dilute it over the whole street so it’s easier to step into poop 😬
Explains the lack of dog poop when I was there on vacation but I also saw way less dogs in the cities.

Also, ew at that hand washing stuff.
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Slave owners are idiots
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Kcannon wrote:Meanwhile, people are getting directly hurt by Elon and his cronies, whether it be because of random firings, ICE interrogations, being born a minority, etc

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tesla-set-on-fire-in-seattle-fourth-straight-day-with-vandalism-in-washington-state.1134690/page-5#post-137096328

Comeon
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/majority-of-gen-z-men-say-feminism-has-gone-too-far-global-survey-finds%E2%80%94up-from-43-for-baby-boomers.1135851/#post-137096262 wrote:"gender equality has gone too far" is what they mean. So women are being positioned too close to the status of men in society, and we have to make sure they're more oppressed is what their rhetoric is. Like Cybertrucks practically have more rights than women in America.

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(03-15-2025, 08:58 PM)Taco Bell Tower wrote:
(03-15-2025, 08:45 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote: I really want to hear the wife in all of this. Imagine a dog bites you and then your husband locks himself in the bedroom and cries.
Though I guess if she married the guy she must be aware of his weirdness or have similar issues

Quote:Literally just talked about this thread with her. She is reading through it now. She seems happy enough with what was posted by me. She did laugh at Wonky Mump talking about confrontation and a therapist though. She did want to say thank you for all the kind comments about her though.

Edit: She also said some of you are really nice, so I thought I'd pass that on since she doesn't have an account

She just read through a thread where most people just completely emasculated her husband and she was "happy enough with what was posted".
Heh
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/this-bill-burr-evolution-of-being-anti-capitalist-comedian-is-wild-and-welcome-to-see.1135872/

Quote:This Bill Burr evolution of being anti-capitalist comedian is wild and welcome to see.
entremet wrote:Have you folks been catching clips?

He's been on press tour for his new special.

He also said "Free Luigi" in a recent interview:
Bill Burr redemption arc on Resetera?

Ooooooooooh, let's see how this plays out....... Popcorn
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(03-16-2025, 12:38 PM)BananaBlast wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/this-bill-burr-evolution-of-being-anti-capitalist-comedian-is-wild-and-welcome-to-see.1135872/

Quote:This Bill Burr evolution of being anti-capitalist comedian is wild and welcome to see.
entremet wrote:Have you folks been catching clips?

He's been on press tour for his new special.

He also said "Free Luigi" in a recent interview:
Bill Burr redemption arc on Resetera?

Ooooooooooh, let's see how this plays out....... Popcorn

https://www.resetera.com/threads/this-bill-burr-evolution-of-being-anti-capitalist-comedian-is-wild-and-welcome-to-see.1135872/#post-137097366 wrote:The dude worth $20mil?

Ok.

I love Bill Burr's comedy for the most part, but his new anti-capitalist bent doesn't ring true when Reed Hastings is signing his cheques.

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Bill Burr could actually be the 'left wing' Joe Rogan if they weren't so picky and soy.
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This is a recent "Free Luigi!" from Burr. Not sure why they don't post it.



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https://youtu.be/ic_7THrrv5Y?t=193
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(03-16-2025, 01:07 PM)Nintex wrote: Bill Burr could actually be the 'left wing' Joe Rogan if they weren't so picky and soy.

If he wasn't a white man they would be sucking his cock so hard. They even give him the side eye for marrying a progresive black woman ??? And he was in a Disney show. ??? 

It goes to show if you're a straight white man, it doesn't matter how much you ally yourself; it's still not enough.

As I've said, they don't want equality; they want revenge. Revenge on people who didn't do anything to them except being born a straight white man. Which sounds kind of racist to me, but what do I know, I'm a straight white man.
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Quote:While commodification is an issue with regards to the superstructural aspects to capitalism, it's nonetheless still wrong to designate the capitalist class to people who just happen to be rich. Capitalists are the minority who own the means of production; no more or less. What means of production does Bill Burr own, exactly? If none, he's literally a worker. Furthermore this confusion also helps perpetuate the belief that anti-capitalism will inherently lower your quality of life and thus we need to stick with this backwards-ass system.

A lot of people are saying...
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/majority-of-gen-z-men-say-feminism-has-gone-too-far-global-survey-finds%E2%80%94up-from-43-for-baby-boomers.1135851/

quote from the article...
Quote:Men across the world feel they are being asked to do too much to support women, despite the fact that they directly benefit from women's prosperity.

A survey of more than 24,000 people across 30 countries revealed 57% of Gen Z men felt their nation had "gone so far in promoting women's equality that we are discriminating against men."

Six in 10 Gen Z men also said they were being asked to do too much to support women, with 28% adding that a father who stayed home to look after his children is less of a man than those who went to work.

Across the board, Gen Z had more extreme views on their role in creating an equal society than any other generation. For example, only 12% of baby boomers agreed with the statement that fathers staying home meant they were less of a man.

Likewise, under half of boomer men (43%) told the study—carried out by Ipsos UK and the Global Institute for Women's Leadership at King's College London—that they were being asked to do too much to support equality.

Strangely, Gen Z men were more likely to describe themselves as feminists than other generations with 32% agreeing with the statement. Likewise 32% of millennial men said they were feminist, compared to 29% of Gen X men and 28% of baby boomers.

Overall, however, 62% of men across countries including the U.S., Australia, Great Britain, Canada, and Japan said that achieving gender equality is of personal importance to them."Despite the divisive headlines, our survey highlights that most people—including men—still agree that achieving gender equality…is important to them personally. Many problems we face are shared, and all genders can and should come together to address the challenges we face as a society, as only by uniting our efforts can we meet them."
should be a good one to watch
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killamajig dateline='[url=tel:1742133679' wrote: 1742133679[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/majority-of-gen-z-men-say-feminism-has-gone-too-far-global-survey-finds%E2%80%94up-from-43-for-baby-boomers.1135851/

quote from the article...
Quote:Men across the world feel they are being asked to do too much to support women, despite the fact that they directly benefit from women's prosperity.

A survey of more than 24,000 people across 30 countries revealed 57% of Gen Z men felt their nation had "gone so far in promoting women's equality that we are discriminating against men."

Six in 10 Gen Z men also said they were being asked to do too much to support women, with 28% adding that a father who stayed home to look after his children is less of a man than those who went to work.

Across the board, Gen Z had more extreme views on their role in creating an equal society than any other generation. For example, only 12% of baby boomers agreed with the statement that fathers staying home meant they were less of a man.

Likewise, under half of boomer men (43%) told the study—carried out by Ipsos UK and the Global Institute for Women's Leadership at King's College London—that they were being asked to do too much to support equality.

Strangely, Gen Z men were more likely to describe themselves as feminists than other generations with 32% agreeing with the statement. Likewise 32% of millennial men said they were feminist, compared to 29% of Gen X men and 28% of baby boomers.

Overall, however, 62% of men across countries including the U.S., Australia, Great Britain, Canada, and Japan said that achieving gender equality is of personal importance to them."Despite the divisive headlines, our survey highlights that most people—including men—still agree that achieving gender equality…is important to them personally. Many problems we face are shared, and all genders can and should come together to address the challenges we face as a society, as only by uniting our efforts can we meet them."
should be a good one to watch

What a surprise. The article’s headline itself misses the entire point this survey shows. Not that feminism has ‘gone too far’ but that men have been left behind. The harping about the negative view towards stay-at-home dads, well no shit. We just went through 30 years of watching feminism deride stay-at-home moms, that women deserve more than to be raising children, and that to be a progressive actualized woman you need a career. WHEREEVER could have man gotten the idea that staying at home and raising children was not respectable or a worthy occupation in their lives.

And even in the first goddamn question of the survey that is supposed to highlight these bigoted Gen Z’ers:

Quote:A survey of more than 24,000 people across 30 countries revealed 57% of Gen Z men felt their nation had "gone so far in promoting women's equality that we are discriminating against men."

Question specifically brings in how it is affecting men, not about how ‘uppity’ woman are. And the second question restates this very point even more clearly:

Quote:Six in 10 Gen Z men also said they were being asked to do too much to support women

But the Left being the Left, they’ll ignore their role in pushing young men to the extreme right and disenfranchising them and instead throw all the blame on ‘toxic masculinity’ even ignoring how they will partake of that same toxicity when it benefits their goals.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Spoiler:  (click to show)
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(03-16-2025, 01:46 PM)killamajig wrote:
Quote:While commodification is an issue with regards to the superstructural aspects to capitalism, it's nonetheless still wrong to designate the capitalist class to people who just happen to be rich. Capitalists are the minority who own the means of production; no more or less. What means of production does Bill Burr own, exactly? If none, he's literally a worker. Furthermore this confusion also helps perpetuate the belief that anti-capitalism will inherently lower your quality of life and thus we need to stick with this backwards-ass system.

A lot of people are saying...
Under this explanation Elon Musk is not a capitalist, he's a worker.
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Do you mean a thesis predicated on describing 19th century industrial production isn't directly relevant to 21st century digital services?

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(03-16-2025, 02:20 PM)JoeBoy101 wrote:
killamajig dateline='[url=tel:1742133679' wrote: 1742133679[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/majority-of-gen-z-men-say-feminism-has-gone-too-far-global-survey-finds%E2%80%94up-from-43-for-baby-boomers.1135851/

quote from the article...
Quote:Men across the world feel they are being asked to do too much to support women, despite the fact that they directly benefit from women's prosperity.

A survey of more than 24,000 people across 30 countries revealed 57% of Gen Z men felt their nation had "gone so far in promoting women's equality that we are discriminating against men."

Six in 10 Gen Z men also said they were being asked to do too much to support women, with 28% adding that a father who stayed home to look after his children is less of a man than those who went to work.

Across the board, Gen Z had more extreme views on their role in creating an equal society than any other generation. For example, only 12% of baby boomers agreed with the statement that fathers staying home meant they were less of a man.

Likewise, under half of boomer men (43%) told the study—carried out by Ipsos UK and the Global Institute for Women's Leadership at King's College London—that they were being asked to do too much to support equality.

Strangely, Gen Z men were more likely to describe themselves as feminists than other generations with 32% agreeing with the statement. Likewise 32% of millennial men said they were feminist, compared to 29% of Gen X men and 28% of baby boomers.

Overall, however, 62% of men across countries including the U.S., Australia, Great Britain, Canada, and Japan said that achieving gender equality is of personal importance to them."Despite the divisive headlines, our survey highlights that most people—including men—still agree that achieving gender equality…is important to them personally. Many problems we face are shared, and all genders can and should come together to address the challenges we face as a society, as only by uniting our efforts can we meet them."
should be a good one to watch

What a surprise. The article’s headline itself misses the entire point this survey shows. Not that feminism has ‘gone too far’ but that men have been left behind. The harping about the negative view towards stay-at-home dads, well no shit. We just went through 30 years of watching feminism deride stay-at-home moms, that women deserve more than to be raising children, and that to be a progressive actualized woman you need a career. WHEREEVER could have man gotten the idea that staying at home and raising children was not respectable or a worthy occupation in their lives.

And even in the first goddamn question of the survey that is supposed to highlight these bigoted Gen Z’ers:

Quote:A survey of more than 24,000 people across 30 countries revealed 57% of Gen Z men felt their nation had "gone so far in promoting women's equality that we are discriminating against men."

Question specifically brings in how it is affecting men, not about how ‘uppity’ woman are. And the second question restates this very point even more clearly:

Quote:Six in 10 Gen Z men also said they were being asked to do too much to support women

But the Left being the Left, they’ll ignore their role in pushing young men to the extreme right and disenfranchising them and instead throw all the blame on ‘toxic masculinity’ even ignoring how they will partake of that same toxicity when it benefits their goals.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Spoiler:  (click to show)
No1curr

uh, well ackshually
https://www.resetera.com/threads/majority-of-gen-z-men-say-feminism-has-gone-too-far-global-survey-finds%E2%80%94up-from-43-for-baby-boomers.1135851/page-2#post-137097756 wrote:This is about men being unwilling to have any fucking empathy.

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I think the problem with feminism is that it doesn't mean anything. Whenever I talk to someone who calls themselves a feminist, they have an entirely different view on what it means.

I consider myself pro-woman in the sense that I want to help them succeed and often do so professionally and I'm always respectful but I would never call myself a feminist.
The women I chat with on Bumble, they throw "feminism" out of the window in the first 3 messages because it's not working for them either. Some love that and others panic because that's not how it is "supposed" to go and that's also a big thing these days. Same as foolilng yourself, during COVID I fooled myself with VR porn, lots of girls fool themselves with make-up, filling out excel sheets and Instagram filters. And finally there is class mobility. All sorts of relationships are now frowned upon such as secretary / boss, waitress / banker, nurse / doctor etc. . Everything is grooming, taking advantage, gold digging etc. and that's everything before politics, age gaps, having children, body counts and more.  

And it all works both ways really, just look a the shit Lana Del Rey got because she said fuck it and settled with an alligator tour guide or the shit passport bros get when they go to some village in Asia to find a girlfriend there.
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Nincringe Jeb Rejoice Klobmentum!
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dd533, post: 137074263, member: 9587 wrote:I can't comment on your situations specifically, but this forums definitely feels a lot more mean than I remember it being in the past.

Sure, you always had people getting into heated arguments over stuff that doesn't matter and things like that, which sucks but at least I understand why people do it. But lately it feels like we get way more comments that aren't even posted to argue, they're just posted to make other people feel awful.

This thread is a good recent example. OP posts a personal situation that stressed him out and made him emotional, and some of the responses are just "you need to go to therapy and also your wife should divorce you".

Kyle Cross, post: 137086428, member: 5544 wrote:Jesus, a lot of the responses in that thread. So much "Be a real man!" energy focused in one spot.

aerie (Admin), post: 137098773, member: 4112 wrote:I can't stand that attitude. Being a man, to me, means being a strong leader (if you can be), standing up for others, especially those who are vulnerable, standing against oppression, bigotry, intolerance, and especially fascism. It means processing your emotions, being vulnerable when needed, and not bottling everything up turning into anger and bitterness. It means being comfortable and strong enough to cry, showing emotion, and you will always feel better and clearer after. It means treating people with kindness, love, respect, and tolerance. It means learning about people different than you, their wants, their needs, their rights. It takes strength to do all these things. "This is how I fight."

Bottling up emotions isn't being a man, it's being a coward, and it's self-destructive turning you into a bitter mess. It's being too scared to express how you feel, and of how other weak men perceive you.
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I don't think they're saying to bottle up his emotions they're saying to not be so stupid over an event that didn't even involve him and definitely didn't include him "being a strong leader, standing up for others, standing against intolerance" but instead turning away and then crying for an hour by himself thinking about the dog and not his wife or child. His OP put more focus on the dog yelping from being kicked away and how it was digging into his mind and making him cry and be scared.

Because I want to emphasize it, aerie made a whole long list of what it means to be a man, which this dude didn't do any of and instead selfishly focused on himself and then went to his hugbox forum to get approval for his selfish focus. So I just had to take aerie's list to show this dude wasn't being a man.
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(03-16-2025, 03:32 PM)BIONIC wrote:
aerie (Admin), post: 137098773, member: 4112 wrote:I can't stand that attitude. Being a man, to me, means being a strong leader (if you can be), standing up for others, especially those who are vulnerable, standing against oppression, bigotry, intolerance, and especially fascism. It means processing your emotions, being vulnerable when needed, and not bottling everything up turning into anger and bitterness. It means being comfortable and strong enough to cry,  showing emotion, and you will always feel better and clearer after.  It means treating people with kindness, love, respect, and tolerance. It means learning about people different than you, their wants, their needs, their rights. It takes strength to do all these things. "This is how I fight."

Bottling up emotions isn't being a man, it's being a coward, and it's self-destructive turning you into a bitter mess. It's being too scared to express how you feel, and of how other weak men perceive you.

So literally not doing anything when your wife is getting bitten by a dog, not doing anything when that dog moves on to the baby stroller and then not saying anything at all towards to the dogs owner doesn't make you a coward. What makes you a coward is if you don't sit in your bedroom afterwards and cry while your wife presumably takes care of the baby.
Like, I'd have at least figured he'd be mostly upset that he just stood there while his wife acted but it seemed like he was mostly upset about the dog getting kicked and all the shouting
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They're trying to make it that people were criticizing him for crying but they weren't, they were criticizing him for what he was crying about and how he was doing it alone rather than with the person who everything happened to. And considering how often he keeps saying "my wife was right" it sounds like he doesn't believe that, that she did something wrong by kicking the dog. And that's what he's really upset about.
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(03-16-2025, 03:32 PM)BIONIC wrote:
aerie (Admin), post: 137098773, member: 4112 wrote:I can't stand that attitude. Being a man, to me, means being a strong leader (if you can be), standing up for others, especially those who are vulnerable, standing against oppression, bigotry, intolerance, and especially fascism. It means processing your emotions, being vulnerable when needed, and not bottling everything up turning into anger and bitterness. It means being comfortable and strong enough to cry, showing emotion, and you will always feel better and clearer after. It means treating people with kindness, love, respect, and tolerance. It means learning about people different than you, their wants, their needs, their rights. It takes strength to do all these things. "This is how I fight."

Bottling up emotions isn't being a man, it's being a coward, and it's self-destructive turning you into a bitter mess. It's being too scared to express how you feel, and of how other weak men perceive you.

Wow, look at this hateful gatekeeping bigotry, from an admin no less

👏 BEING 👏 A 👏 MAN 👏 IS 👏 IDENTIFYING 👏 AS 👏 A 👏 MAN 👏

check your privilege shitlord wag
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(03-16-2025, 03:24 PM)Eric Cartman wrote: Do you mean a thesis predicated on describing 19th century industrial production isn't directly relevant to 21st century digital services?

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To be fair, it might be except Marx never defined his terms. I know what capital is, but most anti-capitalists seem to take after him.

There's also the irony of clinging to that 19th Century prediction when the capitalist countries eliminated the proletariat as a class faster through capitalism than the "classless societies" eliminated classes. Hence, why they have to dump the "proletariat" for "worker" and then make the definition include Elon Musk, Beyonce and Bill Burr.
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Anyway, just no idea why the left can't reach young men. Really weird
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This is why cybertrucks would rather be alone in the woods with a bear
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/majority-of-gen-z-men-say-feminism-has-gone-too-far-global-survey-finds%E2%80%94up-from-43-for-baby-boomers.1135851/page-4#post-137101761 wrote:All this "we just need to patiently educate men without hurting their feelings" posts is I think a little delusional when one of the biggest precursors of all this online toxicity was gamergate. And what was one of the causes of gamergate? A woman with an educational youtube channel explaining why women in video games were depicted in a harmful manner. It was very feminism 101 and men absolutely lost their shit. So no, I think the problem goes a lot deeper than women kindly educating men.

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How was Anita one of the causes of Gamergate? She had been doing that series (written by a man) for like three years at that point. Meanwhile, the Zoe Quinn stuff was entirely new and came on the heels of another instance where media members were trying to rig giveaways to their benefit. What would Anita have to do with games journalism, the purported target of Gamergate, as compared to these other examples?

(03-16-2025, 03:26 PM)Nintex wrote: I think the problem with feminism is that it doesn't mean anything. Whenever I talk to someone who calls themselves a feminist, they have an entirely different view on what it means.

I consider myself pro-woman in the sense that I want to help them succeed and often do so professionally and I'm always respectful but I would never call myself a feminist.
The women I chat with on Bumble, they throw "feminism" out of the window in the first 3 messages because it's not working for them either. 
It's because of the motte-and-bailey that "feminists" ran for so long. You could see it all over GAF and Era for years. Where feminism was defined as "equal rights for women" or "not hating women" whenever they got pushback on any insanity that wasn't feminist just crazy. This was the entire method of Jezebel. Some BPD nut writes some crazy shit and then everyone defends it because "feminism" just like we see now with "trans rights" or "self-diagnosed mental illnesses" or whatever else.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/man-fuck-cnn.1135533/

Is about that fucking protester. omfg 

No retards, people don’t need to like the dude to defend him. You are just doing the same shit that you bitch about the Fox News audience.

Quote:This is not the Trump camp alone.
Liberals are largely Zionist trash.

How do you even position yourself as “better as Trump” with this shit?
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