Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[ClothedMac]

#StopAsianHate

I’m starting to think that BCT has a serious problem against Asians.  

Gotta play it tactical and lay the groundwork that all koreans are anti-black racists before you can start ban baiting with your hot takes when johnny somali goes to prison

Like anti-semitism it's been baked into Era for a while.  Here's the thread where a large group of socially disadvantage youths stomp out two asian kids.  The usual people quickly shift the blame to capitalism and lack of third spaces and nobody caring for the attackers.  

After this thread you saw plenty of asian-era remarking on it in other, safer threads to comment about it.


User Banned (2 Weeks): Inflammatory Generalization regarding Black People

Looks like a group of black kids targeting an Asian guy.

Deleted member 36578

Fucking disgusting. Start prosecuting them as adults. Lessons need to be learned that you cannot live in society and act this way.

It then becomes a thread about how society failed that poor mob beating who beat the shit out of the two. 

Kids that are struggling under historical conditions of oppression and unable to develop healthily are more likely to engage in violent and antisocial behaviors.

Poverty, inequality and substance use disorders along with housing and food insecurity will lead to poor outcomes for families and communities. Those outcomes are exacerbated by racial inequality and generational discrimination.

Bronfenbrenner and Bioecological theories of development along with social, political and economic theories engage with these concepts all the time.

Kids have no real third spaces.

They're seen as hostile in most public spaces.

Movies are too expensive. Skate rinks are gone, etc. Schooling in the states is just about testing.

The tough on crime sociopaths just looks at the sympton and not the disease.

I'm not saying these kids don't deserve any punishment. They do. But we've failed them as well.

Would add social media in any form also drives violent behaviors. Seeing others with fancy lifestyles constantly in your face can break you.

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. And yes, there should be some discipline here. But if you can't see the bigger picture here, that's on you.

I will say people saying focus on the victims and pushing back against societal issues in the post are off mark. Not focusing on the causes and solutions; be it the rise in hate crimes, larger societal issues that create this environment of chaos just for chaos's sake, or a sharp uptick in organized theft...is how we got here in the first place.

Era community always fails to have nuanced conversations about things like this. Them performative "left" views go out the window everytime.

The problem is nobody cares about these kids.

The rising cost of living in the US, compounded by the decades long stagnation in wages has created an environment where parents are working longer and longer hours. The erosion of social programs in this country, compounded by the social shift away from religious institutions (that previously filled this role) and other forms of communal caregiving has created a situation where not only do these kids have nowhere to go when they're not in school, it's actually much worse: these kids have nowhere to go, and nobody wants them. This is a reality that we have known about since I was a child, and here we had a major candidate, a former successful progressive DA and prosecutor for the Bay Area (hmmm, I wonder if this informed her insight at all), proposing major legislation that was laser targeted at helping these kids and not just throwing more cops at them…and the reaction on the left was to laugh at her for it, criticize the legislation for not being an out-of-the-box perfect solution (when is it ever?), or twisted the intent of the legislation to claim it would put more burden on teachers (the legislation addressed this; it didn't).

The right question to ask is what are we willing to do? And the answer to that is fucking tragic.

And it just really sucks to watch the cycle perpetuate over and fucking over again. Because when you operate in these communities, when you have a window into these kids' lives…for every horrific instance of violence and neglect that makes it to national news like what we see here, you see the dozen steps that could have been taken. The dozen ways we as a pubic could have intervened. The signs we could have paid attention to, the funding we could have voted for, the issues we could have prioritized.

And then you realize that nobody cares. Because people in this country do not care about kids until they can be scapegoated or used for tax credits. And until we deal with that? Won't none of this shit change. The consequences of our collective neglect will build up to these horrific tragedies. People will rightfully and understandably be made afraid. The "More Cops!" button will get pushed. The cycle will repeat.

And I'm just so fucking tired and sad.

Y'all fall for the media's bullshit race war angle and claim to be progressive.

=Krazen]Asian hate in 2023 come in all shapes colored and ideological spaces; we can lay the uptick at the feet of rightwing media and a racist president. So their punishment for helping create this terribly angry environment you're telling me…is more Asian votes.

And that's carving out very specific hate crimes, we can do the math down the line from mental illness issues, to community disenfranchisement to who lives in high crime areas.

So what's the solution here? More cops, even though we spend billions on them.

Why aren't we putting the blame on those that entire job and reason for being is public safety! They're literally being outsmarted by teens. It's pathetic.

It's an extension of capitalism.

I feel we're going to look back at this hyper-capitalism era with disdain.

But we see these instances of what can happen when we have generations of kids unsupervised, with no safe spaces, essentially being raised by social media algorithms, and we wait until it's too late to say "…well what could we have done about this?"

In some of our prior threads, posts dislike using "mental disability" as an excuse for bad behavior because most people with mental disabilities do not engage in bad behaviors. It should be considered similar here. Most children who grow up in low income adverse situations do not engage in bad behaviors.

I dunno that anyone said anything about mental disabilities right, did they?

[HaughtyFrank]

Like anti-semitism it's been baked into Era for a while. Here's the thread where a large group of socially disadvantage youths stomp out two asian kids. The usual people quickly shift the blame to capitalism and lack of third spaces and nobody caring for the attackers.  

After this thread you saw plenty of asian-era remarking on it in other, safer threads to comment about it.

It really is amazing how curb stomping an Asian kid triggers essays loaded with excuses for their behavior and that's all considered a-okay, but argue that some Korean girls didn't know it was bad to rap the n-word ten years ago and you get a ban.

[Boredfrom]

Booshka speaking platitudes about race related violence while having a Chinese wife.  

I wonder if his wife is as hardcore commie as him or just glad to be out of China mainland. I guess that’s why Nep is falling for their brand of communism, you can use the race card whenever but also deflect any accusations of racism with “class warfare”. 

Why do they hate Bernie, again?

[DavidCroquet]

Well you see, if Korea had issues like uh...rising costs of living and wage stagnation, along with a social shift away from religious institutions (era doesn't like this now?)...then these girls could be fully excused.

But all of those issues exist for and apply to narrowly defined demographics--specifically children???--within the physical boundaries of the United States.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soft_bigotry_of_low_expectations#English

[Boredfrom]

I think a lot of East Asian members realized that intersectionality is a pretty convenient ideological tool at ERA, but don’t expect being given leeway unless is against the yts. 

For the same reason, SinoERA keeps trying the identity politics game even if no one buys it. Others East Asian just don’t bother anymore.

For better or worse, class warfare is the new hot topic (as badly understood by them) and race identities are just trump cards to win arguments.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-gunn-shares-a-photo-of-milly-alcock-on-the-set-of-supergirl-woman-of-tomorrow-as-filming-starts.1090227/page-2#post-134787744

Well, at least she's confirmed blonde.

[TylenolJones]

Who said it? Neo nazi or Resetera member?

We did not vote for this Israel-first BS

propping up this pedophilic, homosexual, genocidal nation state instead of protecting our country and bringing our troops home

https://www.resetera.com/threads/far-right-podcaster-who-hosted-kash-patel-eight-times-says-he-wants-a-‘final-solution’-to-rid-us-of-jewish-people.1151508/

[Superstar]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-underestimate-the-manosphere-at-our-peril-nyt-guest-essay.1151028/

Weird to see Kyuuji jump so fast into this thread...what would she know about men's issues? Stay in your lane, lady!

This title triggered me hard for some reason
 "We". Who the hell is "We"? Are you on a sports team? Fuck off lady.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Gonna have to declare Bore bankruptcy - I'm like 20 pages behind. Sorry everyone, I failed you. Hopefully this tweet from the past makes up for it. 

[Boredfrom]

Wah?

[Boredfrom]

Hello again! Digimon recently has been adding support for some of the more neglected lines recently such as the Tyrannomon line and Bakemon/Fantomon line.

Proceeds to fawn for female Digimon without any real input or criticism… in the woman criticizes designs thread.  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-452#post-137808222

I'm glad you're back I hope the break did you good. I've distanced myself from the fgc since february, this is basically the only place I discuss things about it now. As for this point I've noticed it too, there has been a backslide into creepy and lecherousness, from youtubers exploiting sex (with some even returning just to exploit Mai after saying they wouldn't talk about the games again) to the people behind the social media teams just being gross. I'd also be interested to see what the japanese says for much of Mai in sf6 and fatal fury cotw because the english localisations is... Questionable at best. Even now they're are "boys club" rhetoric about elena happening

Imagine posting this while Echoes fawns over big boobed Digimon.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Who said it? Neo nazi or Resetera member?

We did not vote for this Israel-first BS

propping up this pedophilic, homosexual, genocidal nation state instead of protecting our country and bringing our troops home

https://www.resetera.com/threads/far-right-podcaster-who-hosted-kash-patel-eight-times-says-he-wants-a-‘final-solution’-to-rid-us-of-jewish-people.1151508/

Kasai

Come for me and I'll take as many of you motherfuckers with me as possible.

[Snoopy]

He's a rich Musk lover. Probably voted for Trump too. Meh.

Of course he's not on the left - he actually did something

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Big debate about whether lying about your political enemies is productive (spoiler: it isn't).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/western-kabuki-a-podcast-on-internet-topics-du-jour-hints-at-a-major-incoming-scoop-about-mark-grummz-kern-that-has-him-panicking-on-twitter.1146102/page-8#post-137764557

Sorry, but, I have an extremely difficult time believing the following possibility playing out here:

1) someone who's ostensibly never heard of grummz comes across a tweet saying dude drinks breast milk.

2) person looks up "grummz breast milk" and somehow *only* sees the part where that's debunked. Apparently they miss everything else that lead to that in their search?

3) person concludes grummz is the victim, here. Case closed.

Come on.

I don't use twitter, and went on this specific journey based only on information from ResetEra. I thought the breast milk thing was true until this thread happened! 

A joke is not a false claim. Repeat- a joke is not a false claim. It's a joke. People understand this even if they're not familiar with why it's a joke going in. They will understand why it's ok to make a joke about a terrible human being, having done it themselves before

Why are they such moral hypocrites. There's so much to make fun of about Grummz without inventing shit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-athletic-espn%E2%80%99s-pat-mcafee-and-others-amplified-a-false-rumor-a-teenager%E2%80%99s-life-was-%E2%80%98destroyed%E2%80%99.1151205/

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verdict-on-the-defamation-case-between-karl-jobst-and-billy-mitchell-is-in-1st-april-mitchell-won.1149540/page-4#post-137773614

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissive Commentary

The amount of people in this thread who believed a man who thinks he should be able to say the n word is insane

The amount of people on their high horses who expects everyone to know every little obscure part of some individuals history before picking a side is insane. Especially when the other guy is known to lie about his achievements and the case is initially thought to be about all that. Not to forget that everyone can still rethink their stance once more information comes out, because this is how it works.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israeli-troops-tied-up-and-executed-15-palestinian-aid-workers-buried-them-in-a-mass-grave-with-their-ambulances-and-vehicles.1151565/#post-137811753

sadly it's still bannable, despite the fact that they are exactly that in every single way that matters

You know what? Fuck it, the IDF are fucking nazis and the world should be treating them the same way we treated those genocidal scumbags.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-verdict-on-the-defamation-case-between-karl-jobst-and-billy-mitchell-is-in-1st-april-mitchell-won.1149540/page-4#post-137773614

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissive Commentary

The amount of people in this thread who believed a man who thinks he should be able to say the n word is insane

The amount of people on their high horses who expects everyone to know every little obscure part of some individuals history before picking a side is insane. Especially when the other guy is known to lie about his achievements and the case is initially thought to be about all that. Not to forget that everyone can still rethink their stance once more information comes out, because this is how it works.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israeli-troops-tied-up-and-executed-15-palestinian-aid-workers-buried-them-in-a-mass-grave-with-their-ambulances-and-vehicles.1151565/#post-137811753

sadly it's still bannable, despite the fact that they are exactly that in every single way that matters

You know what? Fuck it, the IDF are fucking nazis and the world should be treating them the same way we treated those genocidal scumbags.

Treat them the same way by...

Voting them into the white house? 
Or giving them lots of government money to manage US space traffic?
Buying their books by the millions, as well as all of the associated merch of their IP?

Sorry for so many questions, there are just so many nazis these days, I can't figure out which ones you mean!

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-underestimate-the-manosphere-at-our-peril-nyt-guest-essay.1151028/page-3#post-137807532

These threads regularly turn into "men just need to do/be" better as if they're going to just one day collectively stop being brainwashed and stop being lured towards a side that suggests that nothing is their fault, blame women and/or minorities, vote Trump.

I mean, outside of that there's really only one way of fixing this. Criminalizing it and putting all those manosphere influencers where they belong.

[HaughtyFrank]

Big debate about whether lying about your political enemies is productive (spoiler: it isn't).

https://www.resetera.com/threads/western-kabuki-a-podcast-on-internet-topics-du-jour-hints-at-a-major-incoming-scoop-about-mark-grummz-kern-that-has-him-panicking-on-twitter.1146102/page-8#post-137764557I don't use twitter, and went on this specific journey based only on information from ResetEra. I thought the breast milk thing was true until this thread happened! 

A joke is not a false claim. Repeat- a joke is not a false claim. It's a joke. People understand this even if they're not familiar with why it's a joke going in. They will understand why it's ok to make a joke about a terrible human being, having done it themselves before

Why are they such moral hypocrites. There's so much to make fun of about Grummz without inventing shit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-athletic-espn%E2%80%99s-pat-mcafee-and-others-amplified-a-false-rumor-a-teenager%E2%80%99s-life-was-%E2%80%98destroyed%E2%80%99.1151205/

By the way, just came across this Gail Simone tweet where she asks if someone can explain to her who Grummz is and tons of people reply to her with the breast milk story. I'm pretty sure none of them know it's supposed to be a joke either.
Not crying for Grummz here, but it's funny because I'd bet you that all of these people would claim that they don't fall for false information

[Jansen]

Lilly-anne is definitely an alt

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israeli-troops-tied-up-and-executed-15-palestinian-aid-workers-buried-them-in-a-mass-grave-with-their-ambulances-and-vehicles.1151565/page-2#post-137814525

Zionism and Nazism are 2 sides of the same fascist coin.

[Kyon1988]

Wylder needs new drinking glasses:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/36E9A4LUTHDZH 

Hopefully someone is able to buy them. 
They really need expensive Pusheen the cat tableware for survival

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-happened-to-celebrities.1151637/

Entremet asking the hard questions.

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tekken-8-season-2-patch-is-setting-reddit-on-fire-and-getting-the-game-review-bombed-on-steam.1151595/#post-137811528

Just a heads up, the person you featured throws around ablest slurs like it's nothing. I literally just heard them say the R-word on their ongoing stream.

SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPPP holy shit

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israeli-troops-tied-up-and-executed-15-palestinian-aid-workers-buried-them-in-a-mass-grave-with-their-ambulances-and-vehicles.1151565/page-2#post-137814525

Zionism and Nazism are 2 sides of the same fascist coin.

That one is hyper YIKES to me.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israeli-troops-tied-up-and-executed-15-palestinian-aid-workers-buried-them-in-a-mass-grave-with-their-ambulances-and-vehicles.1151565/page-2#post-137814525

Zionism and Nazism are 2 sides of the same fascist coin.

You know what? Fuck Israel for being shitcunts like this. The UN should charge and pursue all war criminals and that includes a great deal of the IDF.

HOWEVER, at least there is a minor possiblity that the people responsible will be prosecuted by Israel or the UN.

The state-sponsored Hamas terrorists that kidnapped, raped, tortured and murdered innocent young people at a music festival will not only never be prosecuted, they are openly celebrated by Hamas and the sick fuck lefties around the world who support that evil regime.

Under no circumstances should innocent noncombatants be killed in conflicts, but by locating their war apparatus within and below civilian infrastructure, Hamas certainly makes it so it's virtually impossible to keep innocent people safe. 

Cunts the lot of them. 

Turn the whole region into glass and solve 95% of the world's problems.

[Boredfrom]

Get fucked musk nazi

Is funny how you can also say: “Get fucked Zionist Musk” and that dude will not detect the cognitive incongruity. 


https://www.resetera.com/threads/susan-crawford-defeats-brad-schimel-in-wisconsin-supreme-court-election.1151664/page-5#post-137819103

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tekken-8-season-2-patch-is-setting-reddit-on-fire-and-getting-the-game-review-bombed-on-steam.1151595/#post-137811528

Just a heads up, the person you featured throws around ablest slurs like it's nothing. I literally just heard them say the R-word on their ongoing stream.

SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPPP holy shit

OP removed the video Neoxon whined about