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[Gameboy Nostalgia]

MCU fan genocide continues. This time it’s SkinnyIndonesian!

Also skinny got banned for fucking nothing.

On Discord they say

so this one guy was saying the Marvels bombing was obvious since they're pushing "worse heroes with worse acting talent"
and I pointed out that Cap Marvel and Ms Marvel weren't any less popular or "good" as heroes go compared to Iron Man or Cap when MCU first debuted
and how Brie Larson is an Oscar winner and Iman Vellani is killing it in her first onscreen role
so I took a dig "wonder why you think they're worse then"
and the guy just replied "not even gonna respond, reported"

You can’t report me, only I get to do that. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-122#post-114873989

um mreddie.. you're circumventing his ban by posting his words on the site. 

[benji]

MCU fan genocide continues. This time it’s SkinnyIndonesian!

Also skinny got banned for fucking nothing.

On Discord they say

so this one guy was saying the Marvels bombing was obvious since they're pushing "worse heroes with worse acting talent"
and I pointed out that Cap Marvel and Ms Marvel weren't any less popular or "good" as heroes go compared to Iron Man or Cap when MCU first debuted
and how Brie Larson is an Oscar winner and Iman Vellani is killing it in her first onscreen role
so I took a dig "wonder why you think they're worse then"
and the guy just replied "not even gonna respond, reported"

You can’t report me, only I get to do that. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-ot3-is-this-canon-lgbtqia-lives-matter.523146/page-122#post-114873989

lmao it's barely even a ban:

User Banned (3 Days): Antagonizing Fellow Member; Inappropriate Insinuation

The Inner Party caste doesn't even have skin it's so thin.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

3 days? Literally Jesus on the cross. A true martyr of his time.

[kaleidoscopium]

3 days! Our leader ZeoVGM got 3 months!

 

[benji]

Found this while looking for that ban, UK-Era is putting staff at risk:

Wait what happened to Mr. Snuffleupagus

https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion.270630/page-221#post-114552215

Gonna be gone for a while by the look if it.

When I got wrongly banned for a misunderstanding I planned to go in on the mods on my return but I would only have ended up with a permanent ban lol

Yeah, it's not worth picking a fight over.

Fuck me, a 3 month ban for that?! Where's the issue with questioning whether someone who doesn't appear to post on here should be able to moderate it? It wasn't even insulting. I've seen far worse said between general members on a daily basis here without issue. Just reply and say " 'X' is a mod here because of Y & Z and we won't be altering the mod team as we feel they're doing a good job."

What an overreaction. The whole "Call into question the mods and you're out of here, capiche?" is something you'd expect from a child not a grown adult.

*If I get banned for this please just delete my account and make it permanent*

I got banned a couple of times but reached out, was polite and made my point, and got the ban rescinded once (the other time was just 'we hear you but suck it up and ride it out')

Maybe Snuffles can do that but hope they're ok.

Gummy got banned and I appealed, as it seemed fairly preposterous, but was given a "they can appeal their own ban".

Sorry chaps, today reminded me why I'm not fond of forums. Think I may request an account closure. Was enjoying it for a while but ugh. Hmph.

I legitimately did not know how to go about that when it happened to me - in the instance where it may have mattered, the other time I understood why it was rightly done - so I could honestly see others not figuring out the process either, or otherwise being prepared to undertake it. People being able to help vouch for character or provide context would be helpful, if nothing else (though I suppose it could be seen as running the risk of sub-communities running interference for each other)

When i got banned there was no mention of any way to appeal

Also even if you do appeal your ban you aren't guaranteed a response because mods are busy.

One thing I have learned from the constructive criticism thread is it's just not ever worth talking about mod issues because they will thread ban you or worse in an instant.

Also, here's a cat from that thread:

[HaughtyFrank]

I guess for the folks that are trying to come bring "nuance" in this thread by, here's a piece of nuance for you to consider.

Hamas attacks on Israel that killed and kidnapped civilians is abhorrent and should be denounced as terrorist attacks. Hamas', and any Palestinian people more broadly, attacks on military targets of their genocidal occupying force are not, they are acts of defense and resistance, even when it's terrible people that do it.

So, when you come here and say "they are shooting back from the hospital", and people here don't denounce it or even defend it, it's because those are not horrifying acts to be denounced. It's simple like that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ongoing-israel-palestine-conflict-news-thread-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-199#post-114874967

Oh.. so Hamas IS in the hospitals?

it's because those are not horrifying acts to be denounced. It's simple like that.

Isn't using a hospital as base of a military operation against international law? Like if we care about Israel committing war crimes we should care about Hamas committing war crimes too.

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Karl is the man

Is he? I seem to remember some really harsh accusations stemming from something related to Tomatoanus iirc? Wouldn't exactly be a great source for this type of info if true

UGH
[/quote]

Tomato Anus?

[benji]

I guess for the folks that are trying to come bring "nuance" in this thread by, here's a piece of nuance for you to consider.

Hamas attacks on Israel that killed and kidnapped civilians is abhorrent and should be denounced as terrorist attacks. Hamas', and any Palestinian people more broadly, attacks on military targets of their genocidal occupying force are not, they are acts of defense and resistance, even when it's terrible people that do it.

So, when you come here and say "they are shooting back from the hospital", and people here don't denounce it or even defend it, it's because those are not horrifying acts to be denounced. It's simple like that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ongoing-israel-palestine-conflict-news-thread-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-199#post-114874967

Oh.. so Hamas IS in the hospitals?

it's because those are not horrifying acts to be denounced. It's simple like that.

Isn't using a hospital as base of a military operation against international law? Like if we care about Israel committing war crimes we should care about Hamas committing war crimes too.

He already explained this, self-defense against genocidal occupying forces justifies anything.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

You would think but Hamas are freedom fighters now against a white occupation so it's alright.

[MMaRsu]

Another big WIN by a great patriot!!! 

   

Like fine if you wanna hate on JK Rowling be my guest but don't automatically assume you can hate me, or put me on blast.

Fuck off dumbass bitch

[Water Enjoyer]

Karl is the man

Is he?

You really can just openly question people's lived experiences on Resetera and nobody bats an eye anymore. The chuds won, it's hard to imagine a site more hostile to nonbinary and trans folx in 2023.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Imagine thinking video games are politics. 

I'd lose faith in the west but knowing these are terminally online freaks and that the mass majority of people give no fucks helps.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-allies-pre-screen-loyalists-for-unprecedented-power-grab-axios.784892/#post-114863099

User Banned (3 Month): Dismissive Commentary in a Sensitive Thread; History of the Same

Mm, this is bad and all, but Biden isn't perfect and does things I really didn't like, so...

[ClothedMac]

John Oliver's bit on the Israel-Hamas war was fairly nuanced and clear, so of course era cherry picks the parts they agree with and continue with the turn of the century YouTube comments "discussion".

Good God.  Hopefully that chum brings in some good Era material.  

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-game-awards-game-of-the-year-2023-nominees-revealed.784853/page-15#post-114861482

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Hogwarts Legacy and Starfield robbed

[Nintex]

I guess for the folks that are trying to come bring "nuance" in this thread by, here's a piece of nuance for you to consider.

Hamas attacks on Israel that killed and kidnapped civilians is abhorrent and should be denounced as terrorist attacks. Hamas', and any Palestinian people more broadly, attacks on military targets of their genocidal occupying force are not, they are acts of defense and resistance, even when it's terrible people that do it.

So, when you come here and say "they are shooting back from the hospital", and people here don't denounce it or even defend it, it's because those are not horrifying acts to be denounced. It's simple like that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ongoing-israel-palestine-conflict-news-thread-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-199#post-114874967

Oh.. so Hamas IS in the hospitals?

Tsk, like capitalist hospitals don't store RPGs and have basements to hold trans hostages during the genocide 

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[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uks-motorsport-body-launches-transgender-inclusion-policy-to-welcome-trans-community.784967/

Motorsport has always been considered a universal sport, open to all genders. This new policy acknowledges and respects the rich diversity of gender identities, stating clearly and unequivocally that all are welcome. We believe that this will create a meaningful, significant and important evolution for the UK motorsport community.

Motorsport UK embraces an inclusion-centred approach. As a sport that has always been accessible and open to all, none of the Motorsport UK competition regulations have gender affecting factors.

 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-allies-pre-screen-loyalists-for-unprecedented-power-grab-axios.784892/#post-114863099

User Banned (3 Month): Dismissive Commentary in a Sensitive Thread; History of the Same

Mm, this is bad and all, but Biden isn't perfect and does things I really didn't like, so...

Pointing out Genocide Joe is dismissive?   Staff defending genocide is so tiring..

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uks-motorsport-body-launches-transgender-inclusion-policy-to-welcome-trans-community.784967/

Motorsport has always been considered a universal sport, open to all genders. This new policy acknowledges and respects the rich diversity of gender identities, stating clearly and unequivocally that all are welcome. We believe that this will create a meaningful, significant and important evolution for the UK motorsport community.

Motorsport UK embraces an inclusion-centred approach. As a sport that has always been accessible and open to all, none of the Motorsport UK competition regulations have gender affecting factors.

 

Motorsport UK looking for good PR and idiots lapping it up. 

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uks-motorsport-body-launches-transgender-inclusion-policy-to-welcome-trans-community.784967/

Motorsport has always been considered a universal sport, open to all genders. This new policy acknowledges and respects the rich diversity of gender identities, stating clearly and unequivocally that all are welcome. We believe that this will create a meaningful, significant and important evolution for the UK motorsport community.

Motorsport UK embraces an inclusion-centred approach. As a sport that has always been accessible and open to all, none of the Motorsport UK competition regulations have gender affecting factors.

 

Sport without gender categories welcomes trans athletes 

[Boredfrom]

and I pointed out that Cap Marvel and Ms Marvel weren't any less popular or "good" as heroes go compared to Iron Man or Cap when MCU first debuted

But they totally are, at least CaptainMarvel/BrieLarson. People may like Iman and her character but she is not pulling the numbers.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uks-motorsport-body-launches-transgender-inclusion-policy-to-welcome-trans-community.784967/

Motorsport has always been considered a universal sport, open to all genders. This new policy acknowledges and respects the rich diversity of gender identities, stating clearly and unequivocally that all are welcome. We believe that this will create a meaningful, significant and important evolution for the UK motorsport community.

Motorsport UK embraces an inclusion-centred approach. As a sport that has always been accessible and open to all, none of the Motorsport UK competition regulations have gender affecting factors.

 

This is fucking genocide, why can trans women not compete as women in a women-only category???

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Picking up an RPG just gives the IDF the justification for later. There's really nothing to be gained. Also RPGs just don't lie around hostpitals so I'm not sure why people think that wouldn't be a hamas fighter.

They don't need a justification, they will bomb no matter what. Maybe there's nothing to be gained, but there's also nothing to lose

So Israel doesn't need justification since Hamas will just send rockets no matter what. I see, I see.  

[benji]

Maybe there's nothing to be gained, but there's also nothing to lose

I mean, there's the innocents they might kill?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-to-ban-sale-of-cigarettes-to-anyone-born-after-1-jan-2009-in-bid-to-create-smoke-free-generation.782777/page-7#post-114766772

User Banned (Permanently): Troll Account

Yeah I'd love to get murdered by the government for liking men, thanks for your suggestion.

Do you not realize that these things are related? Fundamentally, they come from the same impulse: that they think they can run your life better than you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-to-ban-sale-of-cigarettes-to-anyone-born-after-1-jan-2009-in-bid-to-create-smoke-free-generation.782777/page-8#post-114772034

User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory comparison

I mean the spouse has free will

Ok so let's make domestic abuse legal - after all the souse can just leave ?

Surely it's about protecting people from the harmful effects of smoke in this case and simply saying 'you can go somewhere else' feels like victim blaming

[nobody of note]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-allies-pre-screen-loyalists-for-unprecedented-power-grab-axios.784892/#post-114863099

User Banned (3 Month): Dismissive Commentary in a Sensitive Thread; History of the Same

Mm, this is bad and all, but Biden isn't perfect and does things I really didn't like, so...

This kicked off a brief thing in Constructive:

I do not know this poster but a 3 month ban for an obvious joke post that was pretty on point?

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-allies-pre-screen-loyalists-for-unprecedented-power-grab-axios.784892/post-114863099[/URL]

It's a pretty insensitive joke considering Biden is propping up a government who has murdered 8000+ people (a lot of whom are children) recently.

Biden is helping a genocide, that's far from just "not perfect"

Thanks for the feedback on your perspective. It did not read as an endorsement into Biden's stance on any particular policy matters to me, rather pointing out bad faith posters who inevitably show up in any given political thread to argue the most inane commentary, in this case they did not like Biden's policy on X so they could consider supporting Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, which is a plan to establish an authoritarian regime for Trump.

Derailing a thread about the GOP's run to fascism by blithely targeting some of the very minorities in their crossfire, who still may not want to vote because supporting their own genocide is morally untenable, absolutely deserved the ban. The length of time was a standard escalation given their history. In general, mitigating the behavior of vote shaming is something we are discussing behind the scenes in regards to the upcoming election season, but considering these discussions were not public, they did not necessarily influence the ban. It was an asshole post in general.

As an aside, it is just more general proof to me as I've been trying to stand back, observe, and read more books (not social media; books, essays, first hand accounts), that ResetEra in general just is not a great place for political discussion because the historical context and the ability to use that context to derive meaningfully nuanced takes is sorely lacking. Most people here haven't the faintest idea of the various philosophies borne from the fights of minority groups they claim to champion, and then they get pissed off when someone displays knowledge, experience, and context outside of that general ignorance.

Like, superficially being against bigotry does not necessarily make you a good person. Merely picking the right side doesn't mean you are truly knowledgeable. Reactionary drive-bys, a lack of reading and strong media literacy, and chauvinistic presumptuousness towards minorities you believe you know better than are universal faults of us all in this shitty world, but particularly so for Americans, and they are things we should all be working on, myself included.

With absolutely no insensitivity meant toward the situation in Gaza, especially as it is ongoing... to be blunt, I can't help but roll my eyes if the major moderation discussion going into the 2024 elections is vote shaming.

I applaud [USER=143]B-Dubs[/USER] for the candor in posts he's made both here and on the PoliEra thread talking about the rationale behind moderation decisions, as well as how Era moderation has been evolving and trying to learn from mistakes made during the 2020 elections. And the current climate on EtcetEra political threads is a result of the latter. There are people that have gotten (as far as the rules go, deserved, I'm not going to argue that) major bans, including permas, from being too defensive/aggressive... in part because they got to a point where they felt like it was the only way to try and stop threads from being derailed/taken over in the other direction. And this has largely been because 2020 threads - particularly the Tara Reade fiasco - created a blueprint that allowed people to game the rules/moderation system to their own advantage. And now we're going to... double-down on that with a rule that has the potential to be weaponized by those same bad faith actors to an exponential degree?

I don't think "the behavior of vote shaming is something we are discussing behind the scenes in regards to the upcoming election season" is the same thing as it being the major moderation discussion around the election. Nothing in that post indicated it was the only or most focused on thing they've been talking about.

[benji]

As an aside, it is just more general proof to me as I've been trying to stand back, observe, and read more books (not social media; books, essays, first hand accounts), that ResetEra in general just is not a great place for political discussion because the historical context and the ability to use that context to derive meaningfully nuanced takes is sorely lacking. Most people here haven't the faintest idea of the various philosophies borne from the fights of minority groups they claim to champion, and then they get pissed off when someone displays knowledge, experience, and context outside of that general ignorance.

Like, superficially being against bigotry does not necessarily make you a good person. Merely picking the right side doesn't mean you are truly knowledgeable. Reactionary drive-bys, a lack of reading and strong media literacy, and chauvinistic presumptuousness towards minorities you believe you know better than are universal faults of us all in this shitty world, but particularly so for Americans, and they are things we should all be working on, myself included.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-to-ban-sale-of-cigarettes-to-anyone-born-after-1-jan-2009-in-bid-to-create-smoke-free-generation.782777/page-8#post-114772034

User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory comparison

I mean the spouse has free will

Ok so let's make domestic abuse legal - after all the souse can just leave ?

Surely it's about protecting people from the harmful effects of smoke in this case and simply saying 'you can go somewhere else' feels like victim blaming

Needs to be a perm, this is a well known fash saying:

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Frankly at this point anyone who picks up a weapon against the IDF, Hamas member or otherwise, is de facto defending the Palestinian people. Are they supposed to not fight back? MSF have been reporting that they've been sniping patients. Should they just roll over and let the IDF go all XOF on them.

How about we NOT conflate Hamas with the Palestinian people?

How about we not use video game references too   . We'd be seeing IDF is Voldemort if Harry Potter wasn't banned. Sorry B-dubs, your inmates are pro-Hamas now. Deal with what you created.

[PogiJones]

There's a video of Doom ports that Jobst misgendered Becky, the sole developer of the 3DO Doom port. Ever since then I stopped watching him.

UPDATE: Dismissing concerns:

Becky's pronouns are she/her? That's what is used in the video.

He's using the right pronouns there. The one he uses he/him pronouns to refer to is Randy Scott.

fuck jobst.

edit 2:
wait he doesn't misgender her at all. why lie Linkark07

Yes, Becky uses She/They. At least the timestamp I added Jobst uses 'he' to refer to Becky.

If Jobst corrected himself after that I don't know. Just listening that made me stop watching his video.

Will have to rewatch when I return to my home since I'm driving right now.

But I was sure Jobst was referring to Becky in that instance.

FUCK THIS NAZI

It's so funny to me that the absolute dregs of society also happen to be the most judgmental people on earth. They're so desperate to be seen as above someone, anyone.