Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

We're never going to get those rewritten rules if these technobro leechers keep trying to destroy art and all the capital-G Gamers support their well known crimes like Palworld. It's so exhausting.

[benji]

I'm so angry about Palworld that I completely forgot about what the collective nation of Jewish people is doing.

[HaughtyFrank]

Where’s the post where he had moderation induced psychosis?

Second thread I linked 

How things were going on the forum dictated my entire life. Would I eat? Would I sleep? Would I cancel my plans? Would I call in sick to work? Would I talk to my wife that night? My existing blood pressure problems began to agitate and worsen. I developed insomnia because I'd be afraid to go to sleep. I went on emergency health hiatus before my wedding. I couldn't continue to do something that had such a dramatic impact on my life that had nothing to do with my family. I could have kept going if I was stronger. But I wasn't. I had so much going on and something had to go. I retired due to my deteriorated condition and how much worse I would get if I didn't make a change.

I remember he posted about hearing voices once or being hospitalized or some crazy shit like that

I'm brought of him for getting help and not declaring those voices headmates

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ign-microsoft-lays-off-1-900-staff-from-its-video-game-workforce.809208/page-24?post=118134537#post-118134537
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>Banned

Ha

Era mods seeing that "Banned "😍😍

More like Era mods seeing that "Banned" 

[Besticus Maximus]

the peasants are revolting 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

I don't pay much attention to the business stuff, but how did people not expect layoffs? Being able to fire redundancies is part of the point of mergers, isn't it?

[DSC]

windrunner is the one who asked b-dubs about "how his portfolio was doing" in some MS merger thread and mysteriously got banned with no banner or reason

but i'm sure that has nothing to do with this ban

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/january-25-2024-vince-mcmahon-accused-of-sex-trafficking-by-wwe-staffer-he-paid-to-keep-quiet-wall-st-journal-content-warning.809292/?post=118133124#post-118133124

This dude is fucking sick but we already knew that.

Ya knew yet you continued to support him with WWE.

[HaughtyFrank]

The amount of money wasted at xbox in the last 10 years is insane, and they have precisely fuck all to show for it. Despite this, people willingly clapped on obvious duds like Starfield and Redfall and Halo Infinite etc etc

I have to admit, I kind of kept waiting for them to turn it around. You know, building a studio takes time, surely next e3 they got something big. But now, even Hellblade 2 ends up just being a smaller game after like 4-5 years of dev time? Come on, this was your chance to swing big. I don't think it'll be a bad game but it will probably be quickly forgotten.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/e-jean-carroll-v-donald-j-trump-civil-case-for-battery-and-defamation-up-jury-finds-against-trump.707642/page-25?post=118141206#post-118141206

Didn't even watch or look at twitter and I can sense the court scrambling to figure out a way to keep the angry toddler as calm as possible for a few minutes.

Just fucking insane.

B-Dubs liked this post.

[nachobro]

I don't pay much attention to the business stuff, but how did people not expect layoffs? Being able to fire redundancies is part of the point of mergers, isn't it?

dumbest forum on the internet strikes again. same reason they think the dude who quoted the standard of 20% layoffs is some prophet, they just aren't very smart.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/e-jean-carroll-v-donald-j-trump-civil-case-for-battery-and-defamation-up-jury-finds-against-trump.707642/page-25?post=118141206#post-118141206

Didn't even watch or look at twitter and I can sense the court scrambling to figure out a way to keep the angry toddler as calm as possible for a few minutes.

Just fucking insane.

B-Dubs liked this post.

I was hoping he'd contempt himself into a overnight jail cell. Handcuffed and all.

Oh well, I'm sure it'll be soon.

He probably should have jumped over the thing and attacked the judge.

[Nintex]

The amount of money wasted at xbox in the last 10 years is insane, and they have precisely fuck all to show for it. Despite this, people willingly clapped on obvious duds like Starfield and Redfall and Halo Infinite etc etc

I have to admit, I kind of kept waiting for them to turn it around. You know, building a studio takes time, surely next e3 they got something big. But now, even Hellblade 2 ends up just being a smaller game after like 4-5 years of dev time? Come on, this was your chance to swing big. I don't think it'll be a bad game but it will probably be quickly forgotten.

Microsofts usual MO is very simple. Just look at Trello, Slack and ZOOM. Once they got big they copied it and merged it into their Microsoft corpo software suite hell called Teams. They know the big corporations and governments aren't going to do the whole song and dance of procurement and changing vendors to an 'unstable' start-up that does not have a legal team, IE11 support, manuals and a 24/7 helpdesk in 100+ languages to explain what the buttons do and data processing agreements. They also know the start-ups don't have the cashflow to survive 2 years of negotiating such contracts with all the relevant stakeholders unsure if after paying for all the legal advice, the audits and certification requirements the contract will even be signed.  

However they do know that if they include the popular things in their software big clients could switch over to them from that unstable start-up, Adobe, Google or Oracle or whatever. In fact lots of corpo's using Slack moved to the 'safety' and 'reliability' of Microsoft and Teams even if their employees hate it.

But for Xbox this has never worked. Because gamers aren't 'tied' to the Xbox ecosystem with certificates and contracts as much as Microsoft would like. Which is why they came up with stuff like Xbox Live Gold and GamePass. Simply methods to 'trap' people into staying Xbox customers. However, despite all the benefits of using Xbox, gamers can easily switch to different systems or own multiple systems. It's also not as easy to quickly 'copy' the latest hot thing from the competition and even if they manage it their target audiece will compare and are aware that competitive products(Gran Turismo) are often better than the copy Microsoft is selling(Forza). This is the exact opposite from corporate software, where the quality of the software itself compared to the competition just isn't relevant as long as the stakeholders are happy. Microsoft has a lobotimized and censored version of ChatGPT and that's exactly what the corporations want and if they manage to make it 'sustainable' and 'accessible' for the retarded subsidized employees they are kings. Gamers however don't want to rent a Forza game built around the "hours played" metric and don't give a rats ass about accessible controllers, an updated UI for their dashboard or how much more eco friendly their Xbox is. 

And as Reggie once correctly pointed out gamers unlike corporations are insatiable. You can literally have clones of Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy on your system made by their original creators and gamers will still ask for more of that type of content or move elsewhere.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Serebii is too tired already:

Still got people in my mentions believing all the stuff has been "debunked"
Sigh

Yep and I'm getting called a shill and everything despite explaining how models and scaling works
I should have stayed out of this. I'm not mentally ready to deal with the barrage after the start of the year

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-palworld-embroiled-in-ai-and-pok%C3%A9mon-%E2%80%98plagiarism%E2%80%99-controversy.807630/page-99?post=118144686#post-118144686
serebii

But those of us who are in the know, we get harassed, called shills etc. and I've seen so many people who actually have knowledge just no longer speak up because they don't need the harassment. I get brought up here at random times because people think I "defend blindly" when what I do is correct misinformation that people use in their arguments, and they just see it as "defending". Like if your argument has misinformation as a pre-requisite, it's invalidated. I frequently get the harassment, to the point there's Twitter accounts dedicated to harassing me. I'm just stubborn as hell so I'll never stop trying to educate.

This mfer went after other Pokemon sites who leaked stuff before he did and wasn't given where they get their sources from.

[Besticus Maximus]

I remember Serebii.net going live when I was about 9 years old and it being awesome

So many internets ago

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-palworld-embroiled-in-ai-and-pok%C3%A9mon-%E2%80%98plagiarism%E2%80%99-controversy.807630/page-99?post=118144686#post-118144686
serebii

Like if your argument has misinformation as a pre-requisite, it's invalidated.

Putting staff in danger.

[books]

If I recall correctly, xbox fans were hyping up the acquisition and Sony ponies were against the acquisition. And now it's being re-written that these Sony fanboys were the concerned gamers sounding the alarm against layoffs and the actual true heroes holding the barbarians at the gate back.

[HaughtyFrank]

Constructive thread

In general this forum over the past few months has not felt like a welcome place where your opinion can be voiced, from the Insomniac leaks going against forum guidelines, to the acquisition thread, to the MS layoff thread. I even opened a ticket to ask questions about the things I saw when the Insomniac leak happened and instead of getting an actual response the ticket was denied. There is a lot of silencing of discussion which basically makes threads echo chambers with no meaningful contribution.

I think the moderation team could do a better job of explaining during these events and having some clear guidelines on things, it just feels like an absolute mess right now. I have been here since the beginning and I have seen a steady decline in communication that is honestly depressing to see.

More open dialog between moderation and members would help, and having a clear understanding of those guidelines amongst moderations staff would be good as it feels like a lot of times same things are dealt with differently by each mod.

NO SHIT SHERLOCK

[Boredfrom]

If I recall correctly, xbox fans were hyping up the acquisition and Sony ponies were against the acquisition. And now it's being re-written that these Sony fanboys were the concerned gamers sounding the alarm against layoffs and the actual true heroes holding the barbarians at the gate back.

Being fair, there were people that genuinely pointed this was going to happen. It was just drowned by the usual console wars stuff.

[benji]

Constructive thread

I think the moderation team could do a better job of explaining during these events and having some clear guidelines on things, it just feels like an absolute mess right now. I have been here since the beginning and I have seen a steady decline in communication that is honestly depressing to see.

This guy hasn't been sitting down, shutting up and listening. They've been quite clear that this would put staff at risk so they aren't going to do it. Yet he then attacks them and claims this is a decline in communication proving their point about putting staff in danger.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

One moment we're championing the copyright and big corporations and then next we're back to wanting to smash capitalism due to layoffs. 

Pick a fucking side and stick to it! 

[Echelon]

What was the conspiracy theory permaban post?

Also, since I dont keep up that much on most of these threads, is the consensus that the mods are primarily Xbox cocksuckers and so they're banning Sonyponys? I can't tell which way that forum leans because most of the time it seems like it's a Sony cult, but then a Palworld happens and all the Nintendo pedos come out to screech and now it seems like Xbox/Microsoft has protected member status.

Fuck, just writing that gave me a stroke.

[railGUN]

We've been gaslighted by pro-acquisition people over the last two years that capitalism won't do the thing it always will. Been spun a tale about how this merger will result in improved job security and that regulators like the FTC should be defunded for daring to oppose it. Dissenters got dogpiled and thread banned in the only discussion thread permitted on the forum.

You can interpret this as "platform warring" if you want but I am livid that people are losing their jobs and having years of work amount to nothing, including those who worked for my favourite developer. Inevitably the thing that many of us feared came to pass.

I think there is a lot more to discuss here than posts about "thoughts and prayers", there needs to be some introspection among games players, that cheering on these mega mergers does not result in more competition and innovation nor does it benefit the workers. Phil Spencer with his 8 figure salary is not your friend, those gamer t-shirts he wears does not mean he's going to bring back fan favourites from the '90s and the promise of unionisation does not mean there won't be mass layoffs.

Or we can go back to fantasising about Xbox buying Sega because it totally won't happen again, the next time will be different.

[benji]

One moment we're championing the copyright and big corporations and then next we're back to wanting to smash capitalism due to layoffs. 

Pick a fucking side and stick to it! 

Uh, they were pretty clear, the first thing isn't capitalism. And they're getting really sick and tired of fash like you gaslighting everyone about it.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

We could have a discussion about how the first part is actually true from a certain point of view, but considering their "solution" is absolute state monopolies in every aspect of life it's clear they aren't ready for that conversation.

[MJBarret]

Sickening levels of 'Plagiarism' in this thread.

I hope the Ree brigade sue you all!

[benji]

If only ActivisionBlizzard, well known for being investigated by the State of California due to suicides and sexual harassment like happens at every game company, had been protected from the technobro leeches at Microsoft nobody would have lost their jobs, but rather than protect the workers like normal Bobby Kotick sold out and betrayed the artistic process. Now we face the real possibility that the intrinsic meaning that the individual designers put into Lucio will be lost to the forces of capitalism.

[ComeAgain]

The amount of money wasted at xbox in the last 10 years is insane, and they have precisely fuck all to show for it. Despite this, people willingly clapped on obvious duds like Starfield and Redfall and Halo Infinite etc etc

Someone isn’t paying attention to the games they have coming this year, for starters.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

One moment we're championing the copyright and big corporations and then next we're back to wanting to smash capitalism due to layoffs. 

Pick a fucking side and stick to it! 

Uh, they were pretty clear, the first thing isn't capitalism. And they're getting really sick and tired of fash like you gaslighting everyone about it.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

We could have a discussion about how the first part is actually true from a certain point of view, but considering their "solution" is absolute state monopolies in every aspect of life it's clear they aren't ready for that conversation.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[kaleidoscopium]

It's fucking incredible that this still has replies like "BUT THE GUY ADMITTED TO EDITING THE MODELS" as if the whole point of the thread isn't about debunking the claim that it was "faked".

people in that thread seriously acting like proportions and topology need to be 1:1 for it to be considered suspect. like come on now

https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-palworld-embroiled-in-ai-and-pok%C3%A9mon-%E2%80%98plagiarism%E2%80%99-controversy.807630/page-100?post=118151655#post-118151655

The Palworld Civil War marches on

[Boredfrom]

The amount of money wasted at xbox in the last 10 years is insane, and they have precisely fuck all to show for it. Despite this, people willingly clapped on obvious duds like Starfield and Redfall and Halo Infinite etc etc

Someone isn’t paying attention to the games they have coming this year, for starters.

Hellblade 2?