Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

The original sin that caused me to become a stochastic terrorist was the aspect in the "trans rights" discourse that's hard to escape where it seems the proponents are saying "I don't like what I imagine to be society's socially enforced gender roles, which is why my belief about gender roles should be legally enforced at gunpoint."

We have to be forced to be free from what they imagine other people believe.

[Besticus Maximus]

Gender is a social construct. I couldn't give a fuck about what people want to do on their own time and money providing they aren't hurting anyone else. Thing is these cunts on Resetera are fuelled by the e-blood of the feud victims and the entire thing is mired in totalitarian stupidity. They need to be stood up to. And genuinely, for the most part, kept away from kids. They are recruiting in the occluded spaces of their hobbies for sexual gratification, because they are fetishists.

SilentPanda likes to blame the british for the collapse of chinese society, but do you know what genuinely did collapse it, as it did several times over thousands of years? Court eunuch power grabs

[benji]

So all kyuuji and co are doing is using a list of misogynist stereotypes about women, that they've learned from fuckin anime and videogames or by internalising what they think creates categories of 'woman' based on shared essential characteristics and then performatively doing it in public to prove the point. They don't understand what being a woman is, genuinely cannot understand it, have no structured basis of comparison for even creating that woman identity in the first place due to not knowing any or not understanding a woman on a personal, human, empathetic level at all.

Women are objects, with a set of essential characteristics, and becoming a woman is merely performatively adopting those things in the real world.

You edited part of this in so I had missed it but it's literally what Judith Butler and that whole tree of derived thought outright says, that "woman" and "queerness" (or whatever else) is nothing but public performance.

You'll often see these works cited as if they're something other than incoherent word salads from narrowminded people. But I've probably already made my disbelief that people can read stuff like this or other Marxist/derived works and think they're not just coherent but brilliant and objectively correct quite clear.

[Besticus Maximus]

So all kyuuji and co are doing is using a list of misogynist stereotypes about women, that they've learned from fuckin anime and videogames or by internalising what they think creates categories of 'woman' based on shared essential characteristics and then performatively doing it in public to prove the point. They don't understand what being a woman is, genuinely cannot understand it, have no structured basis of comparison for even creating that woman identity in the first place due to not knowing any or not understanding a woman on a personal, human, empathetic level at all.

Women are objects, with a set of essential characteristics, and becoming a woman is merely performatively adopting those things in the real world.

You edited part of this in so I had missed it but it's literally what Judith Butler and that whole tree of derived thought outright says, that "woman" and "queerness" (or whatever else) is nothing but public performance.

You'll often see these works cited as if they're something other than incoherent word salads from narrowminded people. But I've probably already made my disbelief that people can read stuff like this or other Marxist/derived works and think they're not just coherent but brilliant and objectively correct quite clear.

Butler is a philosopher in the Ayn Rand mould. ie, an absolute crank seeking guruship. You'd be better off getting your analysis from Helena blavatsky. The royal you. It's all so stupid. Fuck philosophy.

[Taco Bell Tower]

I$rael
Ree and their censorship 

[Polident]

Also got banned for being antisemitic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/this-michael-cera-skincare-commercial-cerave-with-michael-cera-ve.815355/page-2?post=119182035#post-119182035
User Banned (2 Weeks): Antisemitic dogwhistle

While their creams are very good from back when I used them, reminder that CeraVe is in the BDS list and directly supports I$rael, if that's something that's important to you. It's kinda hard because so many skincare brands are owned by much bigger corporations, and importing or finding quality equivalents isn't always easy.

Every time I walk by a Starbucks and see it packed, I think about how it’s one of the brands )))they((( want you to boycott.

Set realistic expectations, guys.

[Daffy Duck]

Unless the game is on the actual ban list (and it isn't, last I saw, and the policy about Kingdom Come thread was that you were allowed to criticize the dev but you were also allowed to discuss the game without being antagonized), coming in this thread to hassle folks as to why they play this game made by a bigot, why do they ignore posts about Vavra, etc etc. feels quite frankly like a form of bullying and maybe even ban-baiting.

Vavra is a piece of shit and it's fine to repeat this in every thread. Really, it is. Please continue doing it, and I sincerely mean that. That guy doesn't deserve a single cent in my opinion.

But holy shit, painting folks who played the game as uncaring stealth bigots and aggressively demanding why they won't follow the same personal boycott, and making inflammatory comments about them, and then going "lol bye" when they don't want to talk to you (all of which happened in this thread), is really asinine and doesn't make you morally superior, it just makes you a terminally online bully.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-has-surpassed-6-million-copies-sold.816321/post-119138922

Are pigs flying? Morrigan with a good take?

I guess as metal fan she's all too familiar with problematic creators

I wonder if this new policy will apply site wide and to the usual suspects who like to ban bait…

[Boredfrom]

Talking about female character design in Era might be one of the most frustrating, talking-to-a-wall things I've ever done on the internet. Am I insane? Do I simply not have the neurons to enjoy a overtly sexualized design? Why would yuo want to go back to the old, sexualized pop-porny look of Lara Croft?

Because there is a demand of it and animu games are going niche (yet again  ) so the demand is not fulfilled. I understand the criticisms against sexualized characters and even agree with them fully at one point, but absolutism and hypocrisy of the progressive discourse made me care less about it.

You have RE that always screams that “sex work is real work” and defends OnlyFans stuff… but gets uppity if a fictional elf uses a leotard in a video game. Morrigan endlessly bitchs about sexy designs, to the point of intentionally making ugly characters in FromSoft games, but there she is simping for Astarion. Chairmanchuck buys and plays every single hentai shovelware game on Steam and somehow he still thinks he can bitch about those game.

[Besticus Maximus]

Morrigan is like an Abbess who abuses those she sees as strumpets but will genuflect for head pats from senpai and secretly lusts after evildoers. 

The others are just running from the fact that deep down they know that they too are just white men who are pornsick and have consumed too much anime, but are fucking desperate to be part of the good guys gamer community as they have no identity otherwise.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/palworld-dev-cm-has-a-message-to-players-as-ea-nears-a-month-old-confirms-new-pals-reflects-upon-the-ccu-dont-feel-bad-to-take-breaks-from-games.817506/?post=119228454#post-119228454

It is normal for games to lose players after a month, why does the zeitgeist of the gaming community never understand this?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/w-va-gop-house-passes-dystopian-anti-trans-womens-bill-of-rights-narrowly-defining-gender-and-allowing-for-anti-trans-discrimination.817047/?post=119176257#post-119176257
What is it with Ree and running away?

I like how the "only thing left to do" is the normal thing when laws you don't like are passed.

"narrowly defining gender?" isn't it a normal definition?

"a table is a flat elevated surface usually with 4 legs that is often used for humans to put things on"
"omg such a narrow definition!!! what about table fluidity?!"

I would note that trans people regularly advocate that they are not the same or identical and do not desire to be treated equally.

I really am curious, do they love nails and shopping, or do they love the feeling of performing girly activities in public that make them seem like more of a woman

like do they actually appreciate the aesthetic qualities of having nails did, or is it more like "yesss I've done something only women do and that makes me a real woman!! squee"

Based on what I read in their own words, it is the latter. I stupidly watched a YouTube commentary the other day (in my defense the person sometimes creates amusing concise evisceration videos and I was working on some data stuff so listened) and within it was a bit of a throwaway sentence that struck me to think about. Many of these people, and not just the trans ones but "social justice" types in general, have this sort of platonic ideal of concepts and struggle with more concrete material realities. For example, when they think of "woman" it's this ideal conceptual form rather than a diverse multitude of actual women. Hence why their description is always this mess of stereotypes that reveal their personal hangups. 

As such, when presented with exceptions (women who can't get pregnant, women who don't like nails and shopping, women who have short hair, women who aren't sex workers, etc.) it invalidates the "definition" and their response is to essentially declare the concept meaningless so as to advocate for it being replaced with their own personal definition and damn the consequences for anyone else. I'm focused on the trans woman thing here in this example but it really "spoke" to me because you can think about all the other examples just on ResetERA.com alone, such as nobody's ability to define capitalism or their constant lapses into really racist things because they conceive of people who happen to be certain races as these platonic ideal forms and not actual people.

I've only given this a small amount of thought, though in retrospect it opens a whole new understanding for me in reading Marxist/critical/queer/etc. theory writings if I assume they think the same way, but hopefully you can see where I'm going with this. They're so tired and exhausted because the real world does not conform to their imagined ideal forms (that they assume everyone else must share) and so everything always seems like it's completely out of control. Their inclination into extreme thinking thus leads them to seeing the consequences of this lack of personal control as catastrophic like genocide or the planet literally burning up or Disney demanding no more Black people or women in movies.

You see this in the assumption by many trans/non-binary/etc. people that cishets are constantly happy about being the gender or sex or sexuality they are. The reality that people don't experience "gender euphoria" doesn't compute. No, certain women can't just like shopping, this MUST BE gender coded even though men love shopping too. So I, now a woman, MUST experience gender euphoria when shopping because it proves I'm a woman. OMG I'm feeling such pleasure at being a woman, tapping into my womanly essence. It's all really logical, just based on completely wishful and absurd premises. (Which is why it deserves mockery, especially for how sexist is generally is.)

This got me thinking about an incident this morning which has no relation to what you said, but just made me think about how one of the Reeeeeeeesetera members would have reacted.

So, what happened is, I have been meaning to switch over the pedals on my bike for a while and, after much frustration last night, only managed to get one of them off. The other is stuck fast and I couldn't budge it. Anyway, I sprayed some WD40 on it and went to bed. I woke up this morning and went out to the back yard to get the rubber mallet from the toolbox. When I got outside, I realised that it pissed down rain overnight and the whole garden was soaked. Didn't think much of it, until I got to the toolbox and saw a fucking snake (probably just a green tree snake) sitting on top of my toolbox just chilling and trying to escape the rain.

Still with me? Wondering what this has to do with maladjusted 40-something fake women on a video game forum?

Well, my first reaction was to swear, then back off slowly and go back inside. I was a bit annoyed that I couldn't get to the mallet to fix my bike problem, but I don't fuck with snakes (even non-venomous ones) and I guess shit happens sometimes. That's a normal response.

Reading benji's transphobia though made me realise that the response of one of the 40-something fake women and misogynistic progressives would have been to have a complete hissy fit about not being able to do the thing they wanted to do and then they probably would have had a meltdown. This would have been followed up with a thread on resetera where they would have been told that it wasn't a big deal and they should get over it. This would have led to a massive thread backfire and then several bannings, probably including the OP. Either this or they would have fucked with the snake, got bitten and then posted a "HALP, I've been bitten by a snake, what should I do?" thread.

What I am trying to say is that I agree with benji that the resetera type's "expectations vs reality" problem extends to more than just gender issues. It is a problem with all of their life because they just don't actually live life in reality. Everything is filtered through a weird-arse videogame/capshit movie/anime lens where they think real people are just like the people in their enterntainment media.

so what you're saying is this new bill introduced by the snake community that gives them free reign to chill on your toolbox is literally harming aussie folx, making it dangerous just to exist in proximity to them, and in response to this new (extremely local) legislation you turned tail and fled for your own safety, a gross miscarriage of justice

[PogiJones]

Except the former case is people saying they'll punch people they think are Nazis and the latter case is a law where there needs to be actual evidence before you'd be thrown in jail.

I agree. But their claim is that the right is passing laws that make being trans and near kids in and of itself a sex crime, which is why they were melting down when Florida was making execution a possible punishment for sex crimes. So from their perspective, "being trans in public = sex crime, and sex crime = execution, therefore being trans in public = execution." Of course I think their train of thought is jumping steps with leaps of logic, but it's still the same genre of logic, and not a self-report when they legitimately believe this genocide narrative.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

No Justice! No Peace!

Justice for Potato!

Rest in Power, you starchy angel. :(

[Uncle]

They are going insane that people just stopped engaging with them and express their enjoyment of "problematic" content without care:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-319?post=119182371#post-119182371

Talking about female character design in Era might be one of the most frustrating, talking-to-a-wall things I've ever done on the internet. Am I insane? Do I simply not have the neurons to enjoy a overtly sexualized design? Why would yuo want to go back to the old, sexualized pop-porny look of Lara Croft?

That's why I engage so much less in this forum as of late. It's filled with men who like to think of themselves as kinda open-minded and they are not. And yeah I'm gonna fucking judge and bash the users that I see enjoying a design with a camel toe (or literally anything like that). This forum does genuinely, honest to god, gaslight you in terms of anything regarding women or feminism. And at this point I just don't care about bringing it up to staff because seemingly it doesn't matter (after the thousand instances we've had of the same kind of attitude).


There, rant finished.

what the fuck do they mean by this?

wait is it like, you claim to be a progressive person on a progressive forum but actually you like sexy women so you are continually lying about being progressive?

first of all, don't you have to prove that the same people saying they're lovely allies are also awooga-ing at hot ladies? otherwise that's just you assuming everyone is in lockstep when that's not how any large group works

second, can that really be considered gaslighting? does anyone actually say "I don't find scantily clad women sexy" and then proceed to continue to ogle them, or is it more "I'm an ally" and within their framework of beliefs they consider it internally consistent/possible to be an ally while liking hot women? for aforementioned "sex work is real work" sorts of reasons?

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-319?post=119182371#post-119182371

Do I simply not have the neurons to enjoy a overtly sexualized design? Why would yuo want to go back to the old, sexualized pop-porny look of Lara Croft?

[kaleidoscopium]

I’m just glad we have retardEra moderators standing up for Israel now 😇

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I'd consider your opinions worth debating if you were actually a woman. All I see is men with a lesbian fetish.  

[HaughtyFrank]

That pose is, in context, kind of understandable, but I definitely agree it's too much. Same with the exaggerated bust. But thankfully that's just from the Definitive edition. These are the two other version (there's an Iranian version where she's more covered):

Personally as a really big fan of the old games (I still have a CD-ROM of one od them) and as someone who enjoyed the reboot, I don't want to see anything resembling or inspired her old design other than the hair and the two guns. It's something from a bygone era and it should stay there. Forever.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/crystal-dynamic-reveals-artwork-of-what-is-believed-to-be-unified-lara-croft-from-their-upcoming-ue5-game.816906/post-119162391

Posted without a hint of self awareness

[BIONIC]

Entirely too much careposting happening.

Shutting the fuck up is free

[Uncle]

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Starting to think someone has a little bit of a chip on his shoulder in the WWE thread. 

Seth looked like a big loser in that press conference.

Also , make Drew champion already , Seth has been boring for a long time now.

Fuck Logan Paul, dude sucks.

Seth has been boring for a long time now.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-containment-thread-ot.815256/page-6?post=119236509#post-119236509

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

That pose is, in context, kind of understandable, but I definitely agree it's too much. Same with the exaggerated bust. But thankfully that's just from the Definitive edition. These are the two other version (there's an Iranian version where she's more covered):

Personally as a really big fan of the old games (I still have a CD-ROM of one od them) and as someone who enjoyed the reboot, I don't want to see anything resembling or inspired her old design other than the hair and the two guns. It's something from a bygone era and it should stay there. Forever.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/crystal-dynamic-reveals-artwork-of-what-is-believed-to-be-unified-lara-croft-from-their-upcoming-ue5-game.816906/post-119162391

Posted without a hint of self awareness

Armpit fetish gore porn. Seroun you're easy to see through.

[kaleidoscopium]

Edit: jk it’s back, go read the palworld thread to see crossing Eden dogwalked for claiming every game that gets updated is a GAAS.

[Eric Cartman]

Many of these people, and not just the trans ones but "social justice" types in general, have this sort of platonic ideal of concepts and struggle with more concrete material realities.

Pretty telling you went straight to a cishetpremacist thinker like Plato, so it naturally begged the question: are you going to use analogies from philosophers from places like the Congo, or Haiti, or Afghanistan? Are you going to do, like, anything helpful for Indigenous people?

Of course not. Because these groups' autonomy depends upon opposing the West, and we can't have that.

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/michigan-mom-says-daughter-was-told-to-cover-up-while-wearing-her-schools-own-cheerleading-uniform.817599/

Compare and contrast with "Male feminists criticising whoreswhoreswhores milady" thread (100 points)

[malfoyking]

Dumbass-Smasher is banned. Anyone know why?

[FEUER FREI.]

Dumbass-Smasher is banned. Anyone know why?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-was-gambit-not-in-the-x-men-movies.817194/#post-119199411

And Jackman is way too fucking tall to play Wolverine. Yet it worked. Would I rather have seen some short, stocky representation? Sure. But Jackman did a great job and people obviously don't give a crap that he's the wrong size and shape for the role, because his portrayal is more or less universally beloved.

User Banned (3 Days): Bodyshaming

The thing is that Gambit being short will just make his charmer persona come off as weird and creepy instead of endearing. You have to be REALLY CAREFUL with how you portray Gambit or he's going to basically come off as a creeper.

I would cast Chalamet as Nightcrawler in a second, but not Gambit.

I know nothing about capeshit things so no idea what these idiots are talking about

had to look into 5 pages of their posts because this loser posts always like 100 posts a day. fucking 111k posts since october 2017. someone need to touch grass

[davepoobond]

He can’t be short because no one likes short people. Gross.

[nobody of note]

The big thing B-Dubs has been teasing for a while got announced.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/era-gaming-tournaments-platform-is-live.817719/

You can now run your gaming tournaments through Era. Post too long and boring to quote in full. After the smash success of the overproduced way they run game of the year threads now, I can only assume this is destined for greatness.

[Eric Cartman]

Wolverines supposed to be like, 5 foot tall and canadian, eh?
Blade is supposed to be English (like Spider Woman)
Hawkeye is supposed to be charismatic. She Hulk is supposed to be likable.

[Propagandhim]

I know people are gonna be like "BUT JACKMAN AS WOLVERINE" and I just do not see the comparison point. Wolverine is short in the comics but that isn't his ONLY design feature. The hair, the claws, the costume, all of that is a lot more distinct and eyecatching even if you don't absolutely nail the height. If Gambit is shorter than half the other X-Men, how is he gonna stand out?  

They literally gave him the name Wolverine because he's a small but fierce man.  

  Marvel Comics editor-in-chief Roy Thomas asked writer Len Wein to devise a character specifically named Wolverine, who was a Canadian of small stature and with a wolverine's fierce temper.

Its his entire design, you fuckwit . You couldnt have picked a worse example.  All this guy does is say the wrong shit so authoritatively.