Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/professional-surfer-sarah-brady-accuses-ex-boyfriend-jonah-hill-of-emotionally-abusive-behavior.740013/#post-108686097

This is sadly a common thing, some people go to therapy and instead of using the experience to better themselves they weaponize the terminology they learn there and use it against others under the guise of 'protecting their mental health.'

[HaughtyFrank]

RE is doing that thing again where someone being a bad boyfriend is equaled to abuse and demands Jonah Hill's career to be over. 
Like the dude sounds super insecure but at the same time he also clearly lays out that if she wants to keep doing these things he's not the right boyfriend for her.

Reminds me of Aziz Ansari having a really awkward date that blew up because it was the height of metoo

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/professional-surfer-sarah-brady-accuses-ex-boyfriend-jonah-hill-of-emotionally-abusive-behavior.740013/post-108697797

"teehee abuse is fine actually and it should happen in private without anyone ever finding out"

jesus christ, put all these dudes on watchlists.

my guy you are literally in this thread showing your entire ass and going to bat for an abuser. slow your goddam roll.

it would have cost you literally nothing at all to hold yourself back from hand-waiving away abusive behaviour repeatedly but here we are. maybe you'll not wade into convos like this with disingenuousness in the future.

you mean a seemingly progressive forum on which we are somehow seeing a mass of men self-report loudly and proudly about how they cannot see abusive behaviour even after being slapped in the face with textual evidence? but yes calling out the bad faith defense of abusiveness is the real problem actually.

the guy posting reasonably gets whacked with the alt-account ban, this 4 week old account coming in hot and acting like a piece of shit? nah.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/moo.740055/

Staff allow members to have a little “fun” during the weekend

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[JoeBoy101]

1688916998[/url]']
RE is doing that thing again where someone being a bad boyfriend is equaled to abuse and demands Jonah Hill's career to be over. 
Like the dude sounds super insecure but at the same time he also clearly lays out that if she wants to keep doing these things he's not the right boyfriend for her.

Reminds me of Aziz Ansari having a really awkward date that blew up because it was the height of metoo

Hill recently had a child with partner Olivia Millar; in her Stories video, Brady wrote, “I hope my ex has a daughter; maybe she’ll turn him into a real feminist.”

 

Just the bitterness in that statement makes me question her side of the story.

[porkbun]

RE is doing that thing again where someone being a bad boyfriend is equaled to abuse and demands Jonah Hill's career to be over. 
Like the dude sounds super insecure but at the same time he also clearly lays out that if she wants to keep doing these things he's not the right boyfriend for her.

Reminds me of Aziz Ansari having a really awkward date that blew up because it was the height of metoo

You could argue that Jonah knew what he was getting into by dating a cute pro surfer, but on the other hand, a lot of guys generally aren't cool with their GFs hanging around a bunch of dudes or posting thirst traps on IG.

Shit like this is a real disservice to people that are dealing/dealt with acutal abuse.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/moo.740055/

Staff allow members to have a little “fun” during the weekend

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I appreciate this

[kaleidoscopium]

Why are people ok with private conversations being made public by one side without the consent of the other person? Incredibly inappropriate and wrong, especially if the relationship is done. What's the point? What is the society we live in? Shameful stuff

https://www.resetera.com/threads/professional-surfer-sarah-brady-accuses-ex-boyfriend-jonah-hill-of-emotionally-abusive-behavior.740013/page-5#post-108698748

[Eric Cartman]

The 'abuse' boils down to "I can't be with you romantically if you do this kind of stuff".

Meanwhile era will happily endorse "Break off all ties with anyone who disagrees with you" and "I will fucking KILL MYSELF if you don't do what I want you to" behaviours.

[Eric Cartman]

also just another example where a moderator dictates what the scope of permitted conversation is: this is DEFINITELY ABUSE.
BANNED FOR DOWNPLAYING ABUSE if you question that.

Like... I don't even know how many times era play this game and then the second party puts forth their side of the story and completely changes the context.
I dunno if thats whats happened here, but I wouldnt be surprised if Jonah Hill releases her blackmailing him for money with the threat of releasing these or some shit.

[HaughtyFrank]

also just another example where a moderator dictates what the scope of permitted conversation is: this is DEFINITELY ABUSE.
BANNED FOR DOWNPLAYING ABUSE if you question that.

Like... I don't even know how many times era play this game and then the second party puts forth their side of the story and completely changes the context.
I dunno if thats whats happened here, but I wouldnt be surprised if Jonah Hill releases her blackmailing him for money with the threat of releasing these or some shit.

Isn't it great how this is definitely abuse but Will Smith slapping Chris Rock definitely wasn't assault? They really love that mantle of objectivity when they're being completely subjective.

[Boredfrom]

They play the game because no one is allowed to call out the mods and trying to call out users gets “thread derailed”.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/techraptor-baldurs-gate-3-shows-character-creation-dragonborn-bear-sex-dates-much-more-in-new-gameplay.739620/page-5#post-108651567

User Banned (1 month): inflammatory accusations and commentary

It's pretty weird how TechRaptor is a Gamergate site that the (now former) admin of this site told me was banned, but now the mod team acts like it never happened and that it's not a banned site and when I reported with the below screenshot they just repeated the message that it's not a banned site. I don't get it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nba-2k20-now-apparently-features-unskippable-advertisements.150019/#post-25926569
Kind of just as well I guess, since a site being banned just means posts about it will be removed if reported, and I'm the only one who seems to know that this site is supposed to be banned. So unless I specifically saw an infraction and reported it, nothing would be done. I don't get that either. This system is ineffective. Don't know why they didn't and don't just add TechRaptor to the ************** filter. Seemed to work well when they were doing that. I have a vague recollection of a mod trying to explain why they didn't do that, but since I forgot the reasoning I guess I disagreed.

I continue to consider it important that people and sites that supported a misogynistic harassment campaign and that still employ the person mainly responsible, Andrew Otton (who as far as I'm aware has not expressed any sort of contrition) are not given a platform. The ResetEra mod team apparently doesn't.

Anyway what about that other gate? Baldur has three now huh?

"internal banned sources list"

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-black-women-excluded-from-romance.739569/page-3#post-108653346

User Banned (2 Weeks): Trolling and hostility in a thread concerning representation

They’re not most gamers and you keep talking like they are. They don’t matter more than everybody else. Period.

You should develop your own videogame and capitalize on those masses starving for new and exciting tales of progressive storytelling.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/manson-family-follower-leslie-van-houten-set-to-be-released-from-prison-in-two-weeks.739722/#post-108645039

User Banned (2 Weeks): Inflammatory accusations

If the person in question was just a regular murderer, not famous, and black, would the people arguing against van Houten's release still say the same thing?

[Uncle]

...is weird shit now so normalized that era are just loling and cheering for actual bestiality?

Had to triple check I read "bear sex" correctly. Lmao.

Is that constellation Ursa Major or are you just happy to see me

GOTY.

Ok, they finally got me, a dream come true, will have to support it day 1

So how about that VR mode Larian 👀

[BIONIC]

It’s a Druid in bear form

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[Uncle]

It’s a Druid in bear form

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and the loli is really a 1000 year old dragon

[Boredfrom]

I think is supposed to be humorous (they are actually two male characters, but one is a Druid). I’m more concerned that no one in Era pointing out “homosexuals fucking animals” stereotype.

Era is weird about this, regardless.

[HaughtyFrank]

I think is supposed to be humorous (they are actually two male characters, but one is a Druid). I’m more concerned that no one in Era pointing out “homosexuals fucking animals” stereotype.

Era is weird about this, regardless.

They're also doing a weird "It's homophobic if this freaks you out" argument

Too easy to get the general public to conflate “through a long series choices you make you can wind up with scene where a man has sex with a Druid shapeshifted into a bear, clearly played with a light heart” with “this is a game where you have sex with bears”.

Probably because there are two men are kissing in the first part before they choose that dialogue option. ie. Peter Quill can sleep with tentacle monsters as a joke and nobody deliberately misinterprets it, and I doubt half the reactions would exist if it were a female druid for this gag. Idk, maybe the squirrel needed to say "wow that's fkn weird" out loud.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/techraptor-baldurs-gate-3-shows-character-creation-dragonborn-bear-sex-dates-much-more-in-new-gameplay.739620/page-6

Like, I don't mind this crass humor, but I hardly blame anyone if they think it's a step too far to have animal fucking (even if it's a druid)

[benji]

1688916998[/url]']
RE is doing that thing again where someone being a bad boyfriend is equaled to abuse and demands Jonah Hill's career to be over. 
Like the dude sounds super insecure but at the same time he also clearly lays out that if she wants to keep doing these things he's not the right boyfriend for her.

Reminds me of Aziz Ansari having a really awkward date that blew up because it was the height of metoo

Hill recently had a child with partner Olivia Millar; in her Stories video, Brady wrote, “I hope my ex has a daughter; maybe she’ll turn him into a real feminist.”

 

Just the bitterness in that statement makes me question her side of the story.

The 'abuse' boils down to "I can't be with you romantically if you do this kind of stuff".

Meanwhile era will happily endorse "Break off all ties with anyone who disagrees with you" and "I will fucking KILL MYSELF if you don't do what I want you to" behaviours.

also just another example where a moderator dictates what the scope of permitted conversation is: this is DEFINITELY ABUSE.
BANNED FOR DOWNPLAYING ABUSE if you question that.

Like... I don't even know how many times era play this game and then the second party puts forth their side of the story and completely changes the context.
I dunno if thats whats happened here, but I wouldnt be surprised if Jonah Hill releases her blackmailing him for money with the threat of releasing these or some shit.

Showing y'all asses.

As someone who is currently watching one of his best friends go through something very similar (except there is a marriage and mortgage involved), I'm gonna be real fucking blunt here.

Since the Depp/Heard story, there has been a painfully obvious uptick in doubting women coming forward with their stories, downplaying abuse and straight up saying they might be liars.

That includes here on Era. And it's really fucking disappointing.

If you look at these texts and think, "I dunno, we might be missing some context and there could be another side to the story," you are perpetuating this misogynistic emotional abuse that continues to run rampant in society.

This this this.

The victim in an abusive relationship has the right to tell her truth in whichever way she feels is right because it will help others.

People sure do be telling on themselves.

Men do this shit all the time. It's so fucking normalized they can't even see it.

Women should be free to talk about the emotional abuse they receive. This shouldn't be controversial to anyone here.

There are levels to abusiveness. I will not excuse any of them, I just feel like this specific kind of abusive behaviour does not warrant this kind of response.

But she did. And that's really all that matters.

Even when there’s physical and sexual abuse with proof/convictions, people will handwave the behavior online. So when it’s less physically tangible, welp.

Abuse becomes entertainment when its celebs involved. After the Depp/Heard circus, its really just too much for me.

I genuinely cannot fathom how the “is it abuse tho? Just sounds insecure” post ITT are anything but a self report. Like,

“You can’t have guy friends AND here are the specific approved activities you can do with your women friends that you’ve known longer than me, otherwise you can’t be friends with them either. Otherwise we can’t be a thing and it’s your fault. I’m the best boyfriend ever.”

Is not a normal thing to tell a partner. Especially since HE was thirsting over her social media stuff to begin with.

This is a great video and thank you for sharing it. I hope a lot of people in here take the time to watch and LISTEN to what he is saying.

Maybe because the society we live in has women always being gaslighted and are assumed to be liars first by most men esp if ur speaking out against a popular celebrity

Didn’t know this forum had abuse defenders… some of these replies are sick.

I think you have to come to this from a reasonable person standpoint.
Like Jonah was obviously outwardly insecure and jealous, his "boundaries" for a relationship were pretty stupid and verging on controlling. But it's not abusive lol. I don't think he's "done" in hollywood, it'll be embarrassing for him and hopefully he learns from his mistakes.

But it's also a relationship we know nothing about, we're getting one side, a year after they broke up when she decided to leak these DMs from what sounds like a messy relationship

Found the abuser

People really use these threads to tell on themselves huh.

Devil the message of yours which I quoted was you saying that you don't think these texts should have been shared publicly. I'm not assuming anything, that is what you said. you literally advocated for the "look the other way, not our business" mindset which is one of the key pillars that upholds the culture of misogyny and abuse in which we currently live.

what I and others here are trying to convey to people who are expressing views like yours is this: complaining about the privacy of the abuser being violated rings extremely hollow, and yes bad faith, in the face of actual abuse being exposed.

it is encouraging that you took the opportunity to clarify as wordily as you just did. it unfortunately does not change the fact that the mindset you exhibited in your prior messages is exactly how abusers are shielded from consequences, and that mindset is how the culture of abuse is perpetuated.

edit: also I'm really sorry, but the whole "woe is me I guess I'll just censor myself" whine at the end of your post is just so unnecessary considering the context of the conversation that is being had. respectfully, get over yourself.

Plenty will defend him because they're 100% abusive just like him

As someone else said, this manipulation implying that she's not living up to an imaginary standard. So if your first response is "I don't think this is abuse." You are not looking at the full picture. Which btw, you SHOULDN'T need to look at the full picture to understand the red flags.

I want to highlight this post, because I think your joke touches on something I don’t see being mentioned a lot in the discussion around this story.

When I read the texts and Brady’s account of Jonah’s behavior, I do get the sense of an insecure little man. But, I also get a big ol’ whiff of old school traditionalist misogyny. The belief that women have two lanes: Before and After “attaining a man.” And that everything a woman does when she’s in the “Before” lane — her hobbies, her education, her career, how she presents herself — is all done in preparation for and in the pursuit of a male of proper station. But then, when she attains that man, then it’s time to put all that shit away and become a HHWIFE. You’re a beautiful and accomplished surfer, but that was your old life. You have ME now. So put away the bikinis and put on the long skirts and, don’t forget, I like my steak medium rare.

This is misogyny as old as time. I’m sure a lot of us have grandmothers who can speak directly to this. Sadly, it hasn’t been eradicated from the male consciousness of what to expect from their partners. But I think it’s worth pointing out that this isn’t always the actions of an obviously insecure person because, a) pegging this on insecurity alone can have the adverse effect of softening a person’s reaction to this behavior; and b) a lot of men who exhibit this exact behavior don’t exhibit the visible signs of “insecurity.” Many are often handsome, well built, accomplished. The kind of men who would have it said about them that they “could have anyone they wanted.” And when these type of men exhibit this controlling behavior, it tends to be even more potent for that reason: they are seen as being able to have anyone they want (the implication being: so why do you think they’d break a sweat over you? This is clearly in your head). For many of them, it’s not labeled controlling, or the result of insecurity; it’s called “having principles.”

Which is total bullshit. But yeah…

lol:

User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying abuse

Sounds like he’s still carrying a lot of baggage of him being an overweight youth/young adult. Insecurities and all the defensive mental mechanisms he’s created. He definitely needs more therapy.

Why she would put this on instagram vs speaking with family outside of a therapist is very strange though.

Also:

It’s because therapy is becoming more mainstream in the public eye and permeating the vernacular, but emotionally abusive assholes will always be emotionally abusive assholes

I saw a therapist on twitter once say going to get help is like addiction treatment. You have to admit you have a problem and want to get better. They said people that admit they have problems and do the work get better. Abusers that go because they feel they have to just learn a new type of abuse.

Yep. And I say this as an addict who’s currently in relapse. Whether you know the words learned in therapy or not doesn’t mean therapy is making you better, therapy takes a lot of work on the part of the patient to achieve wisdom, knowledge, and results.

[benji]

Another thread taking a genocidal anti-trans turn:

Using your insecurities to manipulate others into living under your provided rule set is sociopathic.

And being pro hate site:

This might be a bit of a weird thing to say, but she didn't show or imply anything that he didn't do or say. He'll be judged on things he said/texted because they're not (or they should no be) acceptable things to say/text. If the things you're saying/texting aren't fit for other people to read, don't say or text them.

[Uncle]

20 years ago:



imagine an implied romantic scene, is the general public like "aw yeah get that bear cock honey"

10 years ago:



king fergus says "jokes on you I'm into that shit" and elinor stays a bear and merida gets some new oddly-shaped brothers and sisters, everybody's like "aw that's so sweet, love transcends all"

or have we actually fallen into the depths of degeneracy

[Nintex]

Many women fuck horses and dogs I don't doubt some of them want to get down with bears

[Uncle]

why do we have so many examples of this, are bears considered "safe" bestiality for our society because it's so ridiculous

like they wouldn't do a werewolf sex scene because that's way too kinky and close to what white girls do

[benji]

When you unironically endorse the actual methods of the Nazis:

[HaughtyFrank]

why do we have so many examples of this, are bears considered "safe" bestiality for our society because it's so ridiculous

like they wouldn't do a werewolf sex scene because that's way too kinky and close to what white girls do

It's this funny thing that if you cater to a fetish that is different from the norm it's completely okay to show your horniness. "Bear fucking? Fuck yeah" or "Omg, the Dragonborn lizard people are so hot, I can't barely contain myself!" 

but if Baldurs gate 3 had showed a sex scene between straight characters, with the guy suggesting a threesome to two buxom elven twins who happily agree, you'd have some long articles about how it caters to depraved fantasies and is disgusting.

[benji]

It's this funny thing that if you cater to a fetish that is different from the norm it's completely okay to show your horniness. "Bear fucking? Fuck yeah" or "Omg, the Dragonborn lizard people are so hot, I can't barely contain myself!" 

but if Baldurs gate 3 had showed a sex scene between straight characters, with the guy suggesting a threesome to two buxom elven twins who happily agree, you'd have some long articles about how it caters to depraved fantasies and is disgusting.

It's because it's a revolutionary act.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/breaking-international-scandal-so-called-president-joseph-biden-seen-walking-while-wearing-sneakers-without-socks.740127/

Wear socks you gross jackass.

[BisMarckie]

I thought this was a forum where whale fucking was endorsed. John McAfee(PBUH) would call y‘all out as bigots.

Be better.