Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

Their hatred of AI has nothing to do with rational preferences even if people like Nepenthe frame it as such. What they actually hate about AI, and you can see it elsewhere on that forum against technology or science or uncontrolled change in general, is that any forms of progress fundamentally challenge the destructive nihilist ideology they rely on to address the cognitive dissonance between their narcissistic self-image and the continued denial of reality to conform to it.

The very concept of progress, the idea of evolutionary potential, threatens their central axiom: the most victimized/least privileged is the least powerful by fiat and therefore should be made the most powerful by fiat. If the distribution of oppression is not mandated by a rigid omnipotent system then a place exists for correlation between individual action and individual status. Because there's no greater component to the faith maintaining it relies on the protection of the axiom. If incremental progress is possible, if the individual choices we make decide where we "stand" among everyone, if things are getting better, etc. then there's no justification for the sudden total levelling of all of humanity down to the lowest level embodied in my self-diagnosis as the most systematically oppressed person in history. (Those below me just have additional bad luck and circumstantial forces against them. My oppression represents the total force of the system applied to a single individual.)

The reality of AI isn't what threatens them, they don't care about or even understand what AI can currently do or potentially do in the near term, it's instead this supernatural uncontrollable force that will only be wielded by those who currently oppress them. It's a threat for the same reason increased wealth and continued growth is perceived as a threat to humanity, it undermines their belief that the only answer to literally anything is a sudden violent total levelling that instantly achieves utopia where people are valued by their "true" wealth that just so happens to mean I will be valued higher than everyone else finally as I should be.

It's always the same threat to the totalitarian mindset because a totalitarian ideology cannot allow for deviation since it is premised on total control. You can't allow pockets of capitalism within socialism because the premise is the total centralized control of everything, allowing people to freely distribute and trade undermines the very logic that argues that centralized command of production and distribution is perfect. The Church couldn't allow individualized and localized worship practices let alone ideas about the truth of the canon because that undermines the structural underpinnings of why the Church had any authority at all. If you demand that everything you hate about your situation is the result of the corrupted force of the total structure of society then the idea that a person could use new technology to improve their relative and absolute situation is a direct attack on the idea that your "place" is not totally outside of your control. It has to make things worse and further perpetuate and empower the sins of the system or my "only solution" that involves the compete destruction of all of human history for my "rational" utopia constructed from scratch to meet my personal whims is obviously illegitimate on its own terms.

[karambollostpassword]

I made a petition on change.org to get Kamala and Tim on Hot Ones, I think ya'll should signal boost it. (Sorry if this counts as self-promotion, but I look at it more as activism and trying to support the campaign)

link: https://chng.it/2L5dSNKLvx

i look at it more as activism brehs

[benji]

Their hatred of AI has nothing to do with rational preferences even if people like Nepenthe frame it as such. What they actually hate about AI, and you can see it elsewhere on that forum against technology or science or uncontrolled change in general, is that any forms of progress fundamentally challenge the destructive nihilist ideology they rely on to address the cognitive dissonance between their narcissistic self-image and the continued denial of reality to conform to it.

The very concept of progress, the idea of evolutionary potential, threatens their central axiom: the most victimized/least privileged is the least powerful by fiat and therefore should be made the most powerful by fiat. If the distribution of oppression is not mandated by a rigid omnipotent system then a place exists for correlation between individual action and individual status. Because there's no greater component to the faith maintaining it relies on the protection of the axiom. If incremental progress is possible, if the individual choices we make decide where we "stand" among everyone, if things are getting better, etc. then there's no justification for the sudden total levelling of all of humanity down to the lowest level embodied in my self-diagnosis as the most systematically oppressed person in history. (Those below me just have additional bad luck and circumstantial forces against them. My oppression represents the total force of the system applied to a single individual.)

The reality of AI isn't what threatens them, they don't care about or even understand what AI can currently do or potentially do in the near term, it's instead this supernatural uncontrollable force that will only be wielded by those who currently oppress them. It's a threat for the same reason increased wealth and continued growth is perceived as a threat to humanity, it undermines their belief that the only answer to literally anything is a sudden violent total levelling that instantly achieves utopia where people are valued by their "true" wealth that just so happens to mean I will be valued higher than everyone else finally as I should be.

It's always the same threat to the totalitarian mindset because a totalitarian ideology cannot allow for deviation since it is premised on total control. You can't allow pockets of capitalism within socialism because the premise is the total centralized control of everything, allowing people to freely distribute and trade undermines the very logic that argues that centralized command of production and distribution is perfect. The Church couldn't allow individualized and localized worship practices let alone ideas about the truth of the canon because that undermines the structural underpinnings of why the Church had any authority at all. If you demand that everything you hate about your situation is the result of the corrupted force of the total structure of society then the idea that a person could use new technology to improve their relative and absolute situation is a direct attack on the idea that your "place" is not totally outside of your control. It has to make things worse and further perpetuate and empower the sins of the system or my "only solution" that involves the compete destruction of all of human history for my "rational" utopia constructed from scratch to meet my personal whims is obviously illegitimate on its own terms.

Read the room and shut the fuck up.

[benji]

https://chng.it/2L5dSNKLvx

To whom it may concern. I believe it may perhaps be of the utmost importance that w-

I think Kamala Harris and Tim Walz should be on Hot Ones.

I think it would be really good optics, and I think it would frankly, be hilarious. Kamala, Tim. Ya'll better prep those tastebuds. You're going to flavor-town (except without the Trump-y part)

Reasons for signing
Brenda Thornton·33 minutes ago
Trump sucks

Fat4 all·14 minutes ago
hot ones should do a collab with Taco Bell and Walz should eat a Da Bomb crunchwrap

[Besticus Maximus]

Their hatred of AI has nothing to do with rational preferences even if people like Nepenthe frame it as such. What they actually hate about AI, and you can see it elsewhere on that forum against technology or science or uncontrolled change in general, is that any forms of progress fundamentally challenge the destructive nihilist ideology they rely on to address the cognitive dissonance between their narcissistic self-image and the continued denial of reality to conform to it.

The very concept of progress, the idea of evolutionary potential, threatens their central axiom: the most victimized/least privileged is the least powerful by fiat and therefore should be made the most powerful by fiat. If the distribution of oppression is not mandated by a rigid omnipotent system then a place exists for correlation between individual action and individual status. Because there's no greater component to the faith maintaining it relies on the protection of the axiom. If incremental progress is possible, if the individual choices we make decide where we "stand" among everyone, if things are getting better, etc. then there's no justification for the sudden total levelling of all of humanity down to the lowest level embodied in my self-diagnosis as the most systematically oppressed person in history. (Those below me just have additional bad luck and circumstantial forces against them. My oppression represents the total force of the system applied to a single individual.)

The reality of AI isn't what threatens them, they don't care about or even understand what AI can currently do or potentially do in the near term, it's instead this supernatural uncontrollable force that will only be wielded by those who currently oppress them. It's a threat for the same reason increased wealth and continued growth is perceived as a threat to humanity, it undermines their belief that the only answer to literally anything is a sudden violent total levelling that instantly achieves utopia where people are valued by their "true" wealth that just so happens to mean I will be valued higher than everyone else finally as I should be.

It's always the same threat to the totalitarian mindset because a totalitarian ideology cannot allow for deviation since it is premised on total control. You can't allow pockets of capitalism within socialism because the premise is the total centralized control of everything, allowing people to freely distribute and trade undermines the very logic that argues that centralized command of production and distribution is perfect. The Church couldn't allow individualized and localized worship practices let alone ideas about the truth of the canon because that undermines the structural underpinnings of why the Church had any authority at all. If you demand that everything you hate about your situation is the result of the corrupted force of the total structure of society then the idea that a person could use new technology to improve their relative and absolute situation is a direct attack on the idea that your "place" is not totally outside of your control. It has to make things worse and further perpetuate and empower the sins of the system or my "only solution" that involves the compete destruction of all of human history for my "rational" utopia constructed from scratch to meet my personal whims is obviously illegitimate on its own terms.

I think it's just class war tbh. Look at who is the most rage hard about it. Middle class professionals who work in creative industries. AI is a fundamental leveller. Then there is the downstream part of the grift. Once you've established yourself as a player in that game, you can do tutorials, write books, sell courses. 

AI means: Didn't go to art college and can't hire an artist? Doesn't matter, make what you can dream up by describing it in natural language. 

People like Nepenthe feel entitled to wealth and a creative position because they have undergone some kind of apotheosis and others haven't. Generative AI strips that away. The AI warriors in my field are genuine nutters, and they're all boojie american tech sorts with books and courses to sell.

[benji]

Read the room

The irony of their adoption of this phrase is that it's an expression that marginalized voices should be silenced lest they challenge the dominant culture. 

I think it's just class war tbh. Look at who is the most rage hard about it. Middle class professionals who work in creative industries. AI is a fundamental leveller. Then there is the downstream part of the grift. Once you've established yourself as a player in that game, you can do tutorials, write books, sell courses. 

AI means: Didn't go to art college and can't hire an artist? Doesn't matter, make what you can dream up by describing it in natural language. 

People like Nepenthe feel entitled to wealth and a creative position because they have undergone some kind of apotheosis and others haven't. Generative AI strips that away. The AI warriors in my field are genuine nutters, and they're all boojie american tech sorts with books and courses to sell.

I think their angry rantings are very disproportionate to most of their actual class positions. The doomers who aren't even in an artistic position or industry far outweigh the handful of industry ones that are complaining about it on there, especially successful ones. You see a far more diverse set of opinions even on there from people actually in relevant positions and awareness of a topic. I'm thinking mostly of gaming side but it happens in off-topic as well from time to time.

[ClothedMac]

• I've been starved for Nepenthe content and the last 300 posts are only crumbs.  Is she not allowed to talk politics on era anymore?  
  

Edit:  Top Page, searched Black Indian.  I'm not as race precise as Nepenthe but this might work?

[benji]

She's pretty obviously afraid to comment on international topics anymore and her previously expressed positions cut against the Harris/Walz hype phase as well. It's not like she can jump in with the Palestine posters attacking the saviors.

She's always pretty generally only expressed her views when she thinks it's safe and she's in the dominant position. I won't comment on this being a feminine trait because that will just encourage our genocidal transphobes.

[Polident]

• I've been starved for Nepenthe content and the last 300 posts are only crumbs.  Is she not allowed to talk politics on era anymore?  
  

You missed when somebody uncovered this old interview with them.

[HaughtyFrank]

With some tweaks this design would have my lesbian ass sweating. (Though going to groan loudly if she is supposed to be indigenous.)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-417#post-126985356

Totally okay, since its from a moderator

Now why would she say that?  Let's see what she's responding to

I've seen some discussion on whether or not this character design is considered sexualized in the typical sense or not. She is obviously showing some skin and the sides of her breasts so that ticks off some of the boxes on the bingo card. Some have said that it's fanservice but they don't necessarily find it sexy while others have said she has some masculine traits and that the design is more akin to men wearing a coat without an undershirt.

No wonder she posted a horny post.  Also, how long has she's been on break?

My raw reaction from when I first saw her was that the design was that it was unnecessary fan service and it looks like that may be the case. How unfortunate.

These people are pathetic.

[MMaRsu]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2527390/discussions/

The steam discussion about it is going about how you would expect

I especially hate if you dislike these changes, you're painted as a porn addict or chud.

What the fuck is up with that? Werent these the people championing gay sex in Baldurs Gate 3…

[HardcoreRetro]

The ones I absolutely despise are the ones going: "Why do you care."

If nobody cared, they wouldn't have changed that shit in the first place.

[Nintex]

The slippery slope of censorship.

There are many things in media I don't like but I would never advocate for banning them.

[Besticus Maximus]

The slippery slope of censorship.

There are many things in media I don't like but I would never advocate for banning them.

There's loads of stuff worth banning tbf, I'd start with furry role play forums 

[Snoopy]

Thread goes as expected -

https://www.resetera.com/threads/first-look-of-gal-gadot%E2%80%99s-evil-queen-in-the-upcoming-live-action-snow-white-remake-offscreen-picture.949839/

Disney giving that genocidal piece of shit a lead role. Fuck them

[Nintex]

Looks they CGed the dwarves instead of having the merry band of trans queer black diverse characters. 

Cowards

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-dishes-never-end.949962/

entremet

And yes, I have a dishwasher and live alone too.

This has got to my most annoying home chores because they're always self generating. And then you have to put them away as well.

Dishes man. I still prefer dishes than paper plates due since it's eco friendlier, but dishes, I hate them so much lol.

Do you like doing dishes?

[Taco Bell Tower]

What the fuck is that ChatGPT talking about 

[Uncle]

This is why ResetEra hates AI

eliezer yudkowsky fancies himself one of the greatest thinkers of our time

1 in 5,000? I'm not sure I've ever taken a major standardized test and gotten a result that unimpressive.

 

he was once so concerned about a theory being a cognitohazard for all who read it that he freaked the fuck out and banned discussion of it on his forum

he waxes poetic about various rationalist philosophies and is practically a religious figure among certain communities



his current concern? getting catfished

[Snoopy]

Entrement is what happens to a forum when all the interesting, original, inventive and crazy people get banned.

[Uncle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/96zq93/why_doesnt_eliezer_yudkowsky_become_a_billionaire/

"he's so smart, why doesn't he simply choose to become a billionaire?"

https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/96zq93/why_doesnt_eliezer_yudkowsky_become_a_billionaire/e46cmyi/

Eliezar is a very smart and rational guy, but he has a few significant flaws.

First of all, he is primarily a theoretician. He comes up with ideas, but does not like to implement them. For example, he talks a lot about willpower depletion, but why is he so fat?

[kaleidoscopium]

churn my ass hole pls

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ben-jerrys-debuts-new-churn-out-the-vote-ice-cream-flavor.949929/#post-126990339

Okay because he’s a gay furry, right?

[books]

Wonder if he says this stupid shit in the presence of real life people. Probably does.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/going-to-chicago-this-weekend-for-a-budget-trip-looking-for-interesting-authentic-places-to-eat-nice-coffee-shops-music-etc.950004/post-126998397

PlanetSmasher
Yeah. I'm in Chicago 2-3 times a year for work as well now that I don't live in the city anymore so I feel you. I never have enough time to go to all the restaurants I want to go to anymore.

Nevertheless, I still have a lot of friends in the restaurant industry (surprise surprise, I'm friends with a lot of Chitown actors so I'm also friends with a lot of servers/bartenders, lol) and the big story a couple years back was that Kuma's head chef was extremely racist and homophobic, and also extremely pro-cop. Basically the smorgasbord of "why is this person running a restaurant in CHICAGO" red flags.

I did look into it just now and it looks like he did step down and the leadership team was largely replaced since then, so hopefully that's all resolved.

Also, I know OP said they weren't into deep dish (I get it, I'm not either) but I'd still suggest a trip to Pequod's anyway. Better than Malnati's or Giordano's any day of the week.

[BIONIC]

“friends”

[Daffy Duck]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2527390/discussions/

The steam discussion about it is going about how you would expect

I especially hate if you dislike these changes, you're painted as a porn addict or chud.

What the fuck is up with that? Werent these the people championing gay sex in Baldurs Gate 3…

Because you’re not allowed to show the fact your a straight person or like anything if you’re straight, that’s disgusting

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/earth-defense-force-6-recruitment-song-trailer-by-gawr-gura-hololive-vtuber-collab-available-until-dec-24th.934467/#post-126214932

User Banned (1 Month) - Inflammatory commentary; dismissing concerns of misogyny; history of trolling and antagonizing others

you are criticizing the way they are promoting it by insulting the real woman doing the promoting and nothing about the promotion itself, its clear where you actually stand on it

Is it clear? I can't make the connection between my comments about the characters and you claiming I'm an asshole towards women. That's pretty wild and I feel like you know that. It wouldn't be any different if it were I dude or dudette singing the song.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-2-what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been.933294/page-478#post-126835875

User Banned (1 Month): Antisemitic Rhetoric

For someone completely out of the loop on this election, what is wrong with Bell?

Nothing? Outside Jewish lobbies pumped a ton of money in his campaign, his views on the issues seems good to me

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/going-to-chicago-this-weekend-for-a-budget-trip-looking-for-interesting-authentic-places-to-eat-nice-coffee-shops-music-etc.950004/post-126998397

PlanetSmasher
Yeah. I'm in Chicago 2-3 times a year for work as well now that I don't live in the city anymore so I feel you. I never have enough time to go to all the restaurants I want to go to anymore.

Nevertheless, I still have a lot of friends in the restaurant industry (surprise surprise, I'm friends with a lot of Chitown actors so I'm also friends with a lot of servers/bartenders, lol) and the big story a couple years back was that Kuma's head chef was extremely racist and homophobic, and also extremely pro-cop. Basically the smorgasbord of "why is this person running a restaurant in CHICAGO" red flags.

I did look into it just now and it looks like he did step down and the leadership team was largely replaced since then, so hopefully that's all resolved.

Also, I know OP said they weren't into deep dish (I get it, I'm not either) but I'd still suggest a trip to Pequod's anyway. Better than Malnati's or Giordano's any day of the week.

How do they fit in work trips or even work between posting nonstop on reee and playing videogames which smasher apparently sucks at all of them?

This dude is so full of shit.

120000 posts

I was on gaf for 11 years before the Exodus and had around 14000

[Snoopy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/going-to-chicago-this-weekend-for-a-budget-trip-looking-for-interesting-authentic-places-to-eat-nice-coffee-shops-music-etc.950004/post-126998397

PlanetSmasher
Yeah. I'm in Chicago 2-3 times a year for work as well now that I don't live in the city anymore so I feel you. I never have enough time to go to all the restaurants I want to go to anymore.

Nevertheless, I still have a lot of friends in the restaurant industry (surprise surprise, I'm friends with a lot of Chitown actors so I'm also friends with a lot of servers/bartenders, lol) and the big story a couple years back was that Kuma's head chef was extremely racist and homophobic, and also extremely pro-cop. Basically the smorgasbord of "why is this person running a restaurant in CHICAGO" red flags.

I did look into it just now and it looks like he did step down and the leadership team was largely replaced since then, so hopefully that's all resolved.

Also, I know OP said they weren't into deep dish (I get it, I'm not either) but I'd still suggest a trip to Pequod's anyway. Better than Malnati's or Giordano's any day of the week.