Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[killamajig]

Dr Loud's head looks comically huge in that pic.

Look at that grin. Dr Poop is thinking about someones shit-pipe in that picture. 

[DavidCroquet]

Speaking of retarded shit, did they just quietly shitcan their stupid "mod highlighted good boy they/thim/she" feature?

I know they recently highlighted the guy who owns Tim Walz old Dreamcast. I'm guessing it's more fallen into disuse than actually shitcanned--which is funnier, in a way.

How wonderful that we have multiple hype threads for this game on the front page of these forums. When I think of ways that these boards can be a more safe and welcoming place for women, somehow this ain't at the top of the list.

Why is Reee such an unsafe place for women?

Some call it the India of the World Wide Web.

[kaleidoscopium]

The best selling game of 2023 was not allowed to be discussed on one of the largest gaming forums online.

Grateful this one is being allowed and I agree good or bad let the posts stay. You had 3 people as top comments addressing what people should know if they want to support the product or not. That's more than enough.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-oti.957504/page-3#post-127408116



2 users below agreeing however, no ban

[kaleidoscopium]

Frustrating that the bare minimum of being an ally is simply not financially supporting the overtly and aggressively misogynistic game developer, but some people just gotta play that video game, I guess.

"Keep politics out of gaming" when that only applies to people in positions of privilege who aren't even affected by that discrimination in the first place.

Literally telling half the world that they care more about this game than their equal rights.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-420#post-127413402

[Venice]

Not only that, a few of my female stream friends (some popular ones too) are currently playing this giving the game more exposure despite the problems listed in this thread so yes, this is proving that they simply dont care about this political/drama news like developer related stuff. These are some of the same people who played (and cosplayed) Stellar Blade "despite" people posting on here and on twitter about the problematic stuff about Shift Up. So yeah, This game is a pretty big thing for China, so no one should be surprised at the exposure and player count of this game at all.

"A few of my female stream friends" = I've never met them IRL, I constantly spam their chat and discord, I donate $20 every single livestream and they might give a shout out once in a while

[DavidCroquet]

I didn't see anyone quote this concerning development from the "woken up" from a nine years abusive relationship thread.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ive-woken-up-from-a-nine-year-toxic-relationship-i-need-help.956109/page-2#post-127382976

Sabre Idde your points triggered something in me and I had the strongest urge to just return home to talk it out. Calmly. And with short prepared points.

I figured if I keep it brief, the words may settle sooner in her mind. So, I came in and said I wanted to talk. I only had two questions. Nothing major.

First question was: do you think you might be suffering from post-partum depression? A sour, angry face with a resounding NO. -- Okay. Fine.

Next question: Are you open to get help? She said she already was looking at people for couple's therapy. Okay great. But I also said what about for yourself? During the car ride there I figured she would ask me why, because what would be wrong? So again I made a short list in my mind. Just in case.

"Why?" So, I presented the list. First point: your huge anger fits. She blames that on her adhd. Fair. She has medication for that but due to the pregnancy and breastfeeding she isn't taking it anymore.

Second point: the lies. I can do something right and later she would turn around and say she was lying, to others as well in order not to make me look too bad. I explained how that hurts. How it hurts to hear nothing you ever did was good enough. She didn't say anything but her face motioned that she understood.

Third point: she had suffered a lot of trauma in her life. It wouldn't be weird if there is some underlying thing popping up triggering something.

I don't believe it but she agreed to it. Reluctantly maybe, but still. After that we talked it out a little bit. Said there had to be some ground rules we both had to stick to in order not to let this happen again too soon before we'd get help. So I moved back in. I could tell she was having a tough time and like Sabre said, if she wants help then I'll help.

So now I'm sligthly hopeful. We had tried before. But always without help and on our own. I'm going to set boundaries. I will keep my word. It gets better or I go. I know I'm not perfect and I forget to do things. I'll work on that too.

But I don't deserve to be treated the way I have been ever again.

Onward.

[kaleidoscopium]

I'd also add that it's exhausting for the people who are hurt by these projects to constantly have to be the ones that have to make those all-encompassing posts or reminders about how shitty some people are, etc.

At some point it's easy to just be numb to it all because it feels like a constant battle. Especially back in the Cyberpunk days where it was obvious what was going on, which this forum thankfully eventually rooted out.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukongs-content-creator-guidelines-include-not-mentioning-feminist-propaganda-politics-etc’-up-confirmed.955914/page-20#post-127412826

“God it’s so tiring for people to enjoy video games that we don’t like… so tiring… thankfully we have strong warrior women to fight for our rights. Like when Kyuuji led the brigade against cyberpunk and then spent months playing it and gushing about it…”

[HaughtyFrank]

Frustrating that the bare minimum of being an ally is simply not financially supporting the overtly and aggressively misogynistic game developer, but some people just gotta play that video game, I guess.

"Keep politics out of gaming" when that only applies to people in positions of privilege who aren't even affected by that discrimination in the first place.

Literally telling half the world that they care more about this game than their equal rights.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-420#post-127413402

Contrary to popular belief, the sales numbers of Wukong will not affect women rights.

Also why the fuck are they losing their mind over some studio founder having dumb opinions but not about Ubisoft and Activision games being heavily promoted on the forum? In those cases actual people were harassed and assaulted, one woman killed herself, and yet here the cry for all womankind because some Chinese dude made a social media post.

Just the most vapid allies. "Oh Ubisoft made the main character in Star Wars look plain and boring, that means they're good now"

[Snoopy]

Frustrating that the bare minimum of being an ally is simply not financially supporting the overtly and aggressively misogynistic game developer, but some people just gotta play that video game, I guess.

"Keep politics out of gaming" when that only applies to people in positions of privilege who aren't even affected by that discrimination in the first place.

Literally telling half the world that they care more about this game than their equal rights.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-420#post-127413402

Strange how they all kept silent when their fat dinner lady was bragging about playing Cyberpunk and Stellar Blade.

[kaleidoscopium]

we should never make peace with the fact that this forum is a hostile space for women (and trans/non-binary folks)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukongs-content-creator-guidelines-include-not-mentioning-feminist-propaganda-politics-etc’-up-confirmed.955914/page-20#post-127415802

[DocWager]

“Fine, I think we’ve kinda overdid it with the “Woman” thing”.

[MMaRsu]

Your forum is a hostile space for everyone not conforming to your opinions, political or otherwise. 

Your forum is dogshit.

[wizardora]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-3-walzing-into-the-future.947364/post-127416732

The poor man's PoliEra gets locked for a bit due to Rinku_ and some other tankie pricks not shutting up about Gaza gg

[Averon]

we should never make peace with the fact that this forum is a hostile space for women (and trans/non-binary folks)

So why stay in an apparent hell site that hates women, trans, and non-binary people? If these hyperbolic idiots truly believed that ResetERA is no better than 4chan/Storm Front, they would have left already.

[Venice]

40 year old part-time failed comedian, and full time whiney jobless man-child, is disappointed that western media is contributing to Black Myth: Wukong's hype cycle... whilst oblivious to the fact that ResetEra has FIVE threads dedicated to said game on it's front page alone:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukongs-content-creator-guidelines-include-not-mentioning-feminist-propaganda-politics-etc%E2%80%99-up-confirmed.955914/page-20#post-127415979

To be clear, I'm not surprised. I'm disappointed.

And, like, we don't even need to boycott the game - the Chinese domestic sales alone will guarantee it's a success no matter what we do - but we could at least, y'know, not actively contribute to its hype cycle. Especially when the developers are as brazen and unapologetic with their bigotry as these guys are.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-has-hit-1m-concurrent-players-on-steam.957483/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-oti.957504/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukongs-content-creator-guidelines-include-not-mentioning-feminist-propaganda-politics-etc%E2%80%99-up-confirmed.955914/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-spoiler-thread.951789/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-review-thread.955002/


Fact 1: ResetEra has more right wing posters than the vast majority of forums out there. They've just learned to keep their mouths shut, whilst others are very subtle trolls.

Fact 2: Black Myth: Wukong probably wasn't on most people's radar. Just another very pretty, SoulsBorne style game. They're a dime-a-dozen nowadays.

Fact 3: But this insanely ridiculous controversy over the (alleged) review guidelines has given the publishers more free publicity than they could have ever-dreamed of.

Fact 4: And ResetEra, as it always does, like with Cyberpunk 2077, like with Hogwarts Legacy, like with Stellar Blade, has done more signal boosting than any other review outlet out there. 

The more they screech about how awful a developer allegedly is and proudly boast how they're going to boycott a game... the more they contribute to it's inevitable success.

Planet ResetEra truly is a clown world.

[nachobro]

If they were real shitposters this would be the entire thread and with actual posts about these things.

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[Snoopy]

Watch out ladies of Chicago. Ted The Twink is on the rag again.

[EaldNarche]

40 year old part-time failed comedian, and full time whiney jobless man-child, is disappointed that western media is contributing to Black Myth: Wukong's hype cycle... whilst oblivious to the fact that ResetEra has FIVE threads dedicated to said game on it's front page alone:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukongs-content-creator-guidelines-include-not-mentioning-feminist-propaganda-politics-etc%E2%80%99-up-confirmed.955914/page-20#post-127415979

To be clear, I'm not surprised. I'm disappointed.

And, like, we don't even need to boycott the game - the Chinese domestic sales alone will guarantee it's a success no matter what we do - but we could at least, y'know, not actively contribute to its hype cycle. Especially when the developers are as brazen and unapologetic with their bigotry as these guys are.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-has-hit-1m-concurrent-players-on-steam.957483/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-oti.957504/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukongs-content-creator-guidelines-include-not-mentioning-feminist-propaganda-politics-etc%E2%80%99-up-confirmed.955914/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-spoiler-thread.951789/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-myth-wukong-review-thread.955002/


Fact 1: ResetEra has more right wing posters than the vast majority of forums out there. They've just learned to keep their mouths shut, whilst others are very subtle trolls.

Fact 2: Black Myth: Wukong probably wasn't on most people's radar. Just another very pretty, SoulsBorne style game. They're a dime-a-dozen nowadays.

Fact 3: But this insanely ridiculous controversy over the (alleged) review guidelines has given the publishers more free publicity than they could have ever-dreamed of.

Fact 4: And ResetEra, as it always does, like with Cyberpunk 2077, like with Hogwarts Legacy, like with Stellar Blade, has done more signal boosting than any other review outlet out there. 

The more they screech about how awful a developer allegedly is and proudly boast how they're going to boycott a game... the more they contribute to it's inevitable success.

Planet ResetEra truly is a clown world.

And the thing they keep forgetting (or are too thick to realize) is that when you go out of your way to scold people and tell them "don't you even think about playing this game!!" it just drives them to want to play it more. Now you've given it more allure by making it forbidden. People don't like being told what to do. It just pushes them to become more reactionary about it. Resetera probably sold more copies of Hogwarts Legacy and Stellar Blade to people than any other forum just by being so annoying about it. 

[DocWager]

Not to rain on everybodies parade, but why be pro-China all of a sudden just to stick it to Ree. Fuck, China!

[DavidCroquet]

I'm channeling my inner Era-poster, but something about the pearl clutching about Wukong in particular feels motivated by something other than what is being said. People are already calling it "worse than Cyberpunk" over there.

It's getting so much more heat that your typical Era whipping-game. And from what I can tell, there is literally nothing in the game that should upset anyone: which makes it pretty distinct from something like Stellar Blade.

I can't decide if it's racism, or console warring, or what. But it certainly has nothing to do with protecting women or whatever...even Stellar Blade has had multiple open "fashion" conversations across various threads.

[D3RANG3D]

Not to rain on everybodies parade, but why be pro-China all of a sudden just to stick it to Ree. Fuck, China!

[DavidCroquet]

Not to rain on everybodies parade, but why be pro-China all of a sudden just to stick it to Ree. Fuck, China!

Hey, I ain't buyin' the game. But it's because I'm an American Nationalist, not an SJW!

[malfoyking]

ccbfan wrote:

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Wow this topic is a clusqueensuck. We got people posting gifs like below.

Then you got people saying Chinese audience don't count as must as western audience.

Then your freakin moral superiority complex as if Hogwarts wasn't the best selling game last year.

Keep being racist ERA, you white supremeist wannabes.

They're getting banned lol. ERA doesn't like being told they are as racist and awful as the chuds they love arguing against.

[Venice]

Not to rain on everybodies parade, but why be pro-China all of a sudden just to stick it to Ree. Fuck, China!

I know what you're trying to say, but with ResetEra, the racism is very real. 

When they criticise the UK, they never say 'fuck the British'. It's always 'fuck Labour' or 'fuck the Tories'.

When they criticise USA, they never say 'fuck Americans'. It's always 'fuck the Republicans' or 'fuck the Democrats'.

But against Israel... it's always 'fuck Israel'. They don't distinguish between the government or the country.

And it's the same with China. I've very rarely seen people say 'fuck the CCP'. Almost always 'fuck China'.

When they hate a country, they lump the citizens and government together. They hate both equally. As if all the citizens blindly support the government.

Very racist. Very, very bigoted (unlike us here on left-leaning TheBore).

I'm channeling my inner Era-poster, but something about the pearl clutching about Wukong in particular feels motivated by something other than what is being said. People are already calling it "worse than Cyberpunk" over there.
It's getting so much more heat that your typical Era whipping-game. And from what I can tell, there is literally nothing in the game that should upset anyone: which makes it pretty distinct from something like Stellar Blade.
I can't decide if it's racism, or console warring, or what. But it certainly has nothing to do with protecting women or whatever...even Stellar Blade has had multiple open "fashion" conversations across various threads.

I've noticed that too. My own feeling is that the very right wing posters on the site, the ones who genuinely hate and have a fear of China and really will be voting for Donald Trump this October, are seeing an opportunity to pop off without any repercussions from the Moderators.

[D3RANG3D]

Not to rain on everybodies parade, but why be pro-China all of a sudden just to stick it to Ree. Fuck, China!

Hey, I ain't buyin' the game. But it's because I'm an American Nationalist, not an SJW!

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

As an American patriot I will be procuring this software on the internet store.

[DavidCroquet]

I'm mostly just sad that B-Dubs has so clearly backed off of his hardline "asking for game/product bans will get you banned" stance. 

These threads would be so much more fun if there were periodic banwaves (aka. genocides) to stoke the flames of chaos.

[kaleidoscopium]

Any framing of Hamas as a "a terrorist organization" when compared to Israel is disingenuous bullshit. There's literally no standard of terrorism that Hamas meets that Israel doesn't exceed by at least a factor of 50. Both forces are fully responsible for the non-combatants they directly harm, and Israel has killed, humiliated, displaced, kidnapped, raped, and tortured (and has always intended to) so many more victims than Hamas it's beyond measure.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-3-walzing-into-the-future.947364/page-381#post-127415661

What the fuck? This is your website b dumbs?

[Ethan]

I'm channeling my inner Era-poster, but something about the pearl clutching about Wukong in particular feels motivated by something other than what is being said. People are already calling it "worse than Cyberpunk" over there.

It's getting so much more heat that your typical Era whipping-game. And from what I can tell, there is literally nothing in the game that should upset anyone: which makes it pretty distinct from something like Stellar Blade.

I can't decide if it's racism, or console warring, or what. But it certainly has nothing to do with protecting women or whatever...even Stellar Blade has had multiple open "fashion" conversations across various threads.

It's just the outrage game of the week. Remember Palworld? Me neither.
As the "controversies" get tamer and tamer, they have to up the hysteria to 11 in an attempt to make the people talking around and ignoring them feel bad.

There might indeed be a bit of internalized "we'll teach these orientals about progressive values and gender equality" though. The last three failed attempts at banning games have been Palworld (Japan), Stellar Blade (Korea) and Wukong (China).

Edit: Akshually, after looking at the steam thread and not just the Burka thread, there's a very apparent undertone of "who cares, it's just just Chinese junk" jingosim/racism.

[Boredfrom]

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I'm channeling my inner Era-poster, but something about the pearl clutching about Wukong in particular feels motivated by something other than what is being said. People are already calling it "worse than Cyberpunk" over there.

It's getting so much more heat that your typical Era whipping-game. And from what I can tell, there is literally nothing in the game that should upset anyone: which makes it pretty distinct from something like Stellar Blade.

I can't decide if it's racism, or console warring, or what. But it certainly has nothing to do with protecting women or whatever...even Stellar Blade has had multiple open "fashion" conversations across various threads.

It just burning all their goodwill with stupid shit controversies while the Wukong developer was actually being a pig online. While some stuff sounds like mistranslation… other stuff sounds like straight up misogyny. But people are tired of controversies, so no one cares anymore.

Is pretty much impotent rage.

[HardcoreRetro]

If only they had made the main character, the monkey king, a black they/them. That would've solved everything.