Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[PogiJones]

Meanwhile, this studio's co-founder tried to argue that women are BIOLOGICALLY INCAPABLE of enjoying action games.

"Can you believe he said that men and women tend to be biologically programmed to like different tihngs?! What a complete misogynist. Now excuse me while I and a bunch of men cosplaying women go post 80,000 times in the Why Women Criticize Sexualized Character Designs thread about what women are biologically incapable of enjoying."

[Uncle]

is there any evidence the wii u actually almost put them out of business? everyone always goes on about nintendo's massive war chest that would enable them to recover from a lot of blunders

it's like comparing suicide squad kill the justice league to concord

suicide squad had 13000 players all time peak, and that's very bad for what they spent on it

concord had less than 700, that's BAD

selling half as much as the competition is vastly different from selling 1% of the competition, especially factoring in what you spent to make it

[killamajig]

When you are right too early people get mad at you.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/emmanuel-macron-refuses-to-appoint-a-left-pm-impeachment-proposed-update-right-wing-michel-barnier-appointed.963972/page-4#post-128236629

AzorAhai

I've had multiple relatives come to me like "you know, you were right about Macron"... And I wish I wasn't.

Sure, Jan.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Red Kong XIX is a fucking idiot
https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th-check-staff-post.970872/page-29#post-128108592
Red Kong XIX

Guess I missed the reality where the Wii U didn't massively tank the stock price of the entire company?


It's true that they could salvage a lot (and I mean a lot) from the Wii U failure. Doesn't change that this was objectively a bigger (probably still the not biggest) flop in videogame history compared to this. The company Nintendo as a whole struggled because of this console launch, while this Concord trainwreck wont impact Sony to that degree.

And I disagree that there will nothing come out of this. It's way to early too tell. Sony could learn that their live service initiate was too big and start to invest more into singleplayer games for example.

Aleh

The Wii U fail was big because it was heavy, the Concord fail is big because it is total, different flavors of failure

 


So your agree that WiiU is currently a heavier failure.

Oops, I forgot to bold the agreeing part.

[TylenolJones]

is there any evidence the wii u actually almost put them out of business? everyone always goes on about nintendo's massive war chest that would enable them to recover from a lot of blunders

it's like comparing suicide squad kill the justice league to concord

suicide squad had 13000 players all time peak, and that's very bad for what they spent on it

concord had less than 700, that's BAD

selling half as much as the competition is vastly different from selling 1% of the competition, especially factoring in what you spent to make it

They were safe cause the Wii and DS were massive hits. If the switch had also had Wii U level sales then yeah they’d be in trouble.

[malfoyking]

Linkin Park announced a new vocalist and right on cue, they have already started.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/linkin-park-announces-return-with-emily-armstrong-as-new-co-vocalist-single-the-emptiness-machine-released-album-from-zero-releasing-november-15.973602/#post-128238822

Just as a heads up, Emily is a known Scientologist and was accused by Cedric from At The Drive-In of being besties with, and defending, Danny Masterson.

[PogiJones]

Wii U bomb was far more impactful, as it caused Nintendo to alter the very structure of their company. But they were never in any danger of going under, because of their huge warchest.

Concord bomb was more shocking in just how low the numbers could possibly be. It's insane it never broke seven hundred CCU on steam. Never seen a game rejection quite as absolute, given the budget.

3DS started sluggish but came back to be a success, much like the PS3. It's absurd to claim that the 3DS was a bigger bomb than the Wii U, with 75 mil vs 13 mil.

[Boredfrom]

is there any evidence the wii u actually almost put them out of business? everyone always goes on about nintendo's massive war chest that would enable them to recover from a lot of blunders

it's like comparing suicide squad kill the justice league to concord

suicide squad had 13000 players all time peak, and that's very bad for what they spent on it

concord had less than 700, that's BAD

selling half as much as the competition is vastly different from selling 1% of the competition, especially factoring in what you spent to make it

Dunno if I will say put them out of business, but it was a failure followed by they initially struggling with the 3DS. 

I think WiiU is a bigger failure than Concord (itself is a weird comparison, but Console Wars are eternal) because everyone expected better after the success of the Wii while Concord was send to die.

Is a foolish comparison, I dunno why some of you guys are hang up with it. The WiiU development and life cycle probably costed more than life cycle of Concord.

[HaughtyFrank]

Meanwhile, this studio's co-founder tried to argue that women are BIOLOGICALLY INCAPABLE of enjoying action games.

"Can you believe he said that men and women tend to be biologically programmed to like different tihngs?! What a complete misogynist. Now excuse me while I and a bunch of men cosplaying women go post 80,000 times in the Why Women Criticize Sexualized Character Designs thread about what women are biologically incapable of enjoying."

It's this confusing thing where they're offended by the idea of men and women being different but then also turn around and claim that they feel and act different than a man so they must be non binary or trans

[Nintex]

is there any evidence the wii u actually almost put them out of business? everyone always goes on about nintendo's massive war chest that would enable them to recover from a lot of blunders

it's like comparing suicide squad kill the justice league to concord

suicide squad had 13000 players all time peak, and that's very bad for what they spent on it

concord had less than 700, that's BAD

selling half as much as the competition is vastly different from selling 1% of the competition, especially factoring in what you spent to make it

They were safe cause the Wii and DS were massive hits. If the switch had also had Wii U level sales then yeah they’d be in trouble.

The big misconception with Wii -> Wii U is that it is always portrayed as a big sudden drop, even though the decline had already started years earlier.
You see sharp drops across the Nintendo portfolio starting from DSi -> 3DS -> Wii Mini -> Wii U. Not to mention Nintendo was selling Wii's at $99 or lower with a game packed in, which padded the install base numbers but meant low margins on hardware and low software attach ratios. I believe they sold the Wii Mini at $49 or something. Software sales are the same story, games like Skyward Sword and Metroid Other M did not sell as well as they should've on Wii considering the size of the install base. After Wii peaked in 2008 or 2009 or so it steadily kept going down. A lot of Wii owners only bought the Wii + Wii Sports and those systems are probably still collecting dust in closets the world over.

The big 'win' of the Switch is that they continue to sell it at high margins with a very high software attach ratio.

The Xbox Series X is not seen as such a big of a failure as the Wii U as it looks like another 'logical' step down from the already failed Xbox One.
Spencer also likes to point that losing against PS4 with Xbox One already stacked the deck against them.

[HaughtyFrank]

Outlaws appears to sell under expectations, cue angry Crossing Eden posting about how there's absolutely nothing wrong with the game

https://www.resetera.com/threads/investors-seems-very-dissapointed-about-star-wars-outlaws-sales-numbers.970842/page-7

[Nintex]

Investing in Ubisoft, you may as well light your money on fire

[Disco55]

Are gamers finally getting tired of the same open world slop Ubisoft makes?

[Boredfrom]

I also think people mistrust the quality of AAA Star Wars games, given that Jedi Survivor is still broken.

[DocWager]

The 4th Star Wars movie sitting in development hell for years artificially inflated its popularity by accident. The heavy push for books in the 90’s recaptured the casual market on the potential for a new film, as well as spiked the sales for Star Wars merch, and finally the Special Edition’s kept up the heat until the reveal of the official 4th film. What came afterwards was mixed, but Star Wars was still limited to official live action productions. The ramping up of these movies has absolutely killed the franchise’s popularity. Disney would be better off putting it on ice until fans beg for its return.

[Disco55]

I am looking forward to the trainwrecks that will be the PS4, Xbox One verisons of Jedi Survivor.

[Cheers]

Thread backfire

Thread 'I just saw a Facebook advertisement for something that would be a burden to receive.'
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-just-saw-a-facebook-advertisement-for-something-that-would-be-a-burden-to-receive.973581/

[Jansen]

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/reagan_2024

Just look at the chuds ruining rotten tomatoes too

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/laura-kate-dale-nintendo-needs-a-reason-for-the-girl-to-be-the-hero.973080/page-5#post-128233218

be easy/fun to read.

But it's because this problem doesn't exist in a vacuum. i.e. It's Aonuma's comment, but against the ENTIRE backdrop of gaming and the general state of how this planet deals with women in these gaming spaces and beyond.

So in this world, which includes gaming spots, women are treated worse than men. Whether it's female devs being harassed, reporters, voice actors, or the standards that female characters must be super hot or face a deluge of criticism to studios (female facial capture people are even getting harassed for not being attractive enough), or that women are constantly sexualized (especially compared to male characters), or that female esports/online players/reporters are often harassed online, or in the real world where women are prevented from advancing in their careers for their gender, where women now need to beware of men using their faces for AI deepfakes , or where women coming out against harassmers falls on deaf ears and lots of victim-blaming (or the flipside; we excuse known harassers). Asian countries are, sadly and statistically shown for being a bad place for women to live based on pay gaps, social status, assaults, unprotective laws, and a slew of other socio-economic factors (and this very much includes Japan).

And if we don't treat women fairly in the real world, then it's super likely they won't be treated right even in gaming, working, digital, or other spaces (and we don't).

(I could posted a lot more relevant links but I'm tired 😩 lol).

Zelda being told she can't be the hero when her name is on every box, or reasons for often being 'absent' in her games, is just salt in the wound... It's generations of women told how they won't be the ones to go on a big adventure, or how they don't compare to their male counterparts (getting different gameplay gimmicks, often "female coded" ones), or aren't worth being a hero but a support character. People are asking the questions of WHY, and the answers we get are often very unsatisfying.

Aonuma's comment, as mentioned, casts a long shadow that seems to generally reflect the state of playable female characters in major Nintendo properties that still exists. – It's better! But it persists.

Aonuma saying "What will Link do if Zelda is the star" is depressing because it completely ignores and highlights the question if it were reversed, which is the often common state of the Zelda series: "If Link is the hero, what will Zelda do?" and the answer has been to largely sideline her, or funny enough, given contradictory examples as to what her appeal is in the rare game she DOES get control. But it's often more bite-sized, or we get arbitrary-like conditions like Zelda can't wield a sword in EoW (unless she's channeling the blank-slate male hero) and relies on other work around methods to dish damage... I like that they're trying to make her play differently (truly!) ...but also in some other lines of questioning: Why do they have to go such lengths to make these conditions for a female hero? 🤨

Why can't we just be? Why can't THE Zelda get her own AAA experience? In 40 years of Zelda, why is it so hard to be different? (Especially when the demand for it is growing).

You know why people have low opinion of Dice? Because she complains about sexism while supporting transexual grifters like Laura Kate.

[TylenolJones]

is there any evidence the wii u actually almost put them out of business? everyone always goes on about nintendo's massive war chest that would enable them to recover from a lot of blunders

it's like comparing suicide squad kill the justice league to concord

suicide squad had 13000 players all time peak, and that's very bad for what they spent on it

concord had less than 700, that's BAD

selling half as much as the competition is vastly different from selling 1% of the competition, especially factoring in what you spent to make it

They were safe cause the Wii and DS were massive hits. If the switch had also had Wii U level sales then yeah they’d be in trouble.

The big misconception with Wii -> Wii U is that it is always portrayed as a big sudden drop, even though the decline had already started years earlier.
You see sharp drops across the Nintendo portfolio starting from DSi -> 3DS -> Wii Mini -> Wii U. Not to mention Nintendo was selling Wii's at $99 or lower with a game packed in, which padded the install base numbers but meant low margins on hardware and low software attach ratios. I believe they sold the Wii Mini at $49 or something. Software sales are the same story, games like Skyward Sword and Metroid Other M did not sell as well as they should've on Wii considering the size of the install base. After Wii peaked in 2008 or 2009 or so it steadily kept going down. A lot of Wii owners only bought the Wii + Wii Sports and those systems are probably still collecting dust in closets the world over.

The big 'win' of the Switch is that they continue to sell it at high margins with a very high software attach ratio.

The Xbox Series X is not seen as such a big of a failure as the Wii U as it looks like another 'logical' step down from the already failed Xbox One.
Spencer also likes to point that losing against PS4 with Xbox One already stacked the deck against them.

The original Wii was a GameCube with a Bluetooth connector. They were making bank on day 1 at $250. Granted by doing this they’ve been technically behind one generation since.

[Cheers]

So, the add was for a website called Spoonful of Comfort. The gist of the add is a lady who says she is sick, and her friend sent her a "care pack." The care pack had two 32-ounce soups, some cookies, and some rolls....for $100.

Now, the premise of this is the lady is sick. So now, she has to go get her kettle and pour the soup in it which means she'll be doing dishes while sick. So, 64 ounces of soup she has to warm up and eat before too long because they are not canned.

I dunno. This seems like a concept that could've ended immediately after somebody in the focus group asked, "Why wouldn't a person just DoorDash their friend some soup from Bob Evans since its already hot and ready to eat and comes with rolls AND it'll be there within 40 minutes instead of being shipped FedEx?"

I feel like the number of rip-offs that are blatant rip-offs these days is growing. And yes, I recognize the irony in talking about rip-offs when it comes to fees DoorDash sneaks in.

She probably had a microwave oven?

Did you say pour the soup... In the kettle ?

Who the fuck puts soup in a kettle??? Lmao you heat it up on the stove or in the microwave

I'm very tired right now, and op talking about putting soup in a damn kettle has twisted my melon something rotten.
Soup...in a kettle?
Sending someone a thoughtful gift to make them feel better is a burden? The hell? It's a bit expensive but it might be good quality soup that's better than local takeaways.

What is this miserable, cynical-ass post?

[Boredfrom]

Why can't we just be? Why can't THE Zelda get her own AAA experience? In 40 years of Zelda, why is it so hard to be different? (Especially when the demand for it is growing).

Citation needed.

I also like THE ZELDA, like asking for dehumanizing Zelda rather than genuinely wanting “to explore the character”.

[Potato]

Oh. I guess I should introduce myself. 

Name is Cheers… not revealing my era account just yet. Been lurking for a while now. 

This place seems to be the best place to point and laugh at era without feeling too grimey.

Don't worry, Benji already knows where you live and your shoe size...

[PogiJones]

They were nowhere near real trouble during the Wii U. They had enough cash to keep them afloat for decades at Wii U level losses. But its failure did alter the structure of their company, since they wanted to return to profitability, not just slowly bleed cash.

[Potato]

Era is now all in for Early Access:




 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th-check-staff-post.970872/page-79#post-128206137

I don’t have many negative opinions about Early Access games like many others do… but this is just ERA justifying bad leadership not be able to see how badly something was going to get received and how trends were changing.

The part they they seem to be missing is that indie devs usually do this because they don't have any other way to gather more feedback. By all accounts Sony should have plenty of resources to asses whether a game is worthwhile. From testers to focus groups to  even mock reviews written by actual journalists (ethics in games journalism anyone?)

Also I can't really think of MP shooters that started in early access. Launching a shooter with few maps, weapons and characters and have it be buggy on top seems like a different kind of death sentence

You can’t convince me this game wasn’t send to die, they just didn’t expect the Megabomba that they were going to get. I feel that everyone at Sony knew they had a failure to deal from past leadership.

Is laughable to entertain the notion that “no one knew” about how was gonna get received.

I genuinely think they were convinced it was gonna be a slow burn, build momentum, then release on PS+ kind of sleeper hit.

They fucked up.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Oh. I guess I should introduce myself. 

Name is Cheers… not revealing my era account just yet. Been lurking for a while now. 

This place seems to be the best place to point and laugh at era without feeling too grimey.

Hey, new fish. 

Give me some of your commissary and i'll make sure you're safe.

No. 

I’ve already been contributing to the like economy for some time now. The leave a carrot take a carrot shit should be working out for me any moment now.

BASED AND LIKE PILLED 

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot43-juan-last-time.971316/page-22#post-128209476
Chris Dring: "There are two approaches to making money. 1. Doing something repeatable, consistent, and reliable to make some money each round over time. 2. Spending a huge amount of your existing income on the lottery until you win! Both are legitimate money-making approaches and should be pursued simultaneously."

Shemhazai: "Wow, we are so lucky that proven genius Chris Dring is here to bestow us with incisive commentary that cuts through the bullshit."

He's seriously calling Astrobot, a Sony first party game, a small game? 

God he's a fucking idiot.

 

I mean, compared with GoW or Horizon, it is. There is a reason why Sony gutted their Japan Studio but let Team Asobi be. 

(A foolish decision in the long run, but Firewalk was a must buy  )

I mean, you don’t think that the Princess Peach game has the same budget as Mario Odyssey, don’t you?

No, only a retard would even seriously pose that question. 

In the same vein, only a retard would consider a first party game to be "small" when considering the vast resources available to the developers in the development of that game.

Don't go full  

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-2024-and-yes-its-still-a-trans-genocide-an-faq-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-today-and-beyond.811257/post-128237178

SilentPanda

Hmmm...Kyoto Station has a poster from the Kyoto Government about LGPTQ

And of course its from japan so its a bunch of cartoon children in the posters

With lines like...

(Am I the only one wondering about my gender identity ......)

(My body is becoming more and more like a boy's. I'm so sick of it. Is there anyone I can talk to about this?)

I did't know japan was getting into this shit too.

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lady-gaga-on-joker-folie-%C3%A0-deux-we%E2%80%99d-very-often-meet-in-joaquin%E2%80%99s-trailer-and-sometimes-we-would-just-tear-the-script-up-and-start-all-over.973425/post-128232732

ElectricBlanketFire

As a writer, fuck off.

Not Planetsmasher this time

[Potato]

Red Kong XIX is a fucking idiot
https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th-check-staff-post.970872/page-29#post-128108592
Red Kong XIX

Guess I missed the reality where the Wii U didn't massively tank the stock price of the entire company?


It's true that they could salvage a lot (and I mean a lot) from the Wii U failure. Doesn't change that this was objectively a bigger (probably still the not biggest) flop in videogame history compared to this. The company Nintendo as a whole struggled because of this console launch, while this Concord trainwreck wont impact Sony to that degree.

And I disagree that there will nothing come out of this. It's way to early too tell. Sony could learn that their live service initiate was too big and start to invest more into singleplayer games for example.

Aleh

The Wii U fail was big because it was heavy, the Concord fail is big because it is total, different flavors of failure

 


So your agree that WiiU is currently a heavier failure.

The WiiU was an implementation failure.

Concord is a strategic failure.

One is easier to rectify than the other.