Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[DocWager]

Maybe she’s tired of playing her fucking virtue signaling mental games as the mod. I think this week has finally cracked these people. Criticism of people’s work seems to be okay again.

[kaleidoscopium]

Wonder why b dumbs won't venture into the hamas thread to question their sources and bring up russian propaganda...

[Propagandhim]

Maybe she’s tired of playing her fucking virtue signaling mental games as the mod. I think this week has finally cracked these people. Criticism of people’s work seems to be okay again.

Nah, it's because every piece of consumer entertainment she likes that incorporates her race as part of the characters, themes, or setting must be affirmed and venerated, because if not, it's an affront to all black people on earth.  You must not like it because you have ulterior motives or subconscious bigotry, or most likely, an overt conscious bigotry guised as game critique -- after all, the main aspect Nepenthe appreciates any media for is whether or not it reflects on her identity as a person, so your unappreciation must be embedded in that aspect of it, too.   It's always that pervasive whiteness sneaking up on her and denigrating "her people".   She's always looking over her shoulder.  


Unless it's a hero shooter, then she's already got her hands full with Overwatch.

[D3RANG3D]

Toxic positivity is very real and a danger to any creative industry that exists under capitalism. Would be significantly less problematic if people didn't have to actually sell their art to survive but that isn't the world we live in.

Commies are the dumbest people…

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[DocWager]

Never forget the memes.

[Boredfrom]

I can't imagine feeling emotionally tanked about the art design I had worked on this. The character designs had the vibe of AI. I don't mean that in the sense that the artists were actually generating them, but that the high fidelity of the models (suggesting skill) mixed with contradictory basic design and color errors (suggesting incompetency) points to an environment of micromanagement by higher ups who simply didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Ignorant "visionaries" giving their input where it didn't belong.

Ultimately, sometimes you are asked by a client to produce ugly-ass art, and it's not necessarily an indictment on you, especially in the former environment where your decisions are inevitably the result of committee. Granted, I wouldn't expect most people to think of the business in this vain, and if gamers are attacking the artists as primarily responsible for the final product, it certainly wouldn't be the first time that they failed to understand this business despite denoting years of their life to it.

But ultimately, Concord is just ugly. And we should be free to say it's ugly.

I don’t doubt a lot of artists were actually concerned about those designs and the higher ups were also guilty about it…


But, , some of those designs screams Tumblr to me. But it is always somebody else fault in NepNep world. That fat dude design was totally conceived by a corpo.

For all we know the artist is actually complaining that the executives forced her to have at least the Asian lady look attractive.

The idea that the designs were dictated by evil corpo honestly makes less and less sense when you think about it. Executives would push for designs that have already been proven in the market, they'd likely ask them to make it more like Overwatch and Apex Legends. Fat guy with awful fashion sense is an unproven risk. Pronouns in character select screen are an unproven risk and so on. 
The only way the corpo narrative makes sense is if they had some crazy justice warrior leading the ship who kept shouting down the art department

I mean, it could be. Maybe there is reverse Elon Musk at Sony that goes in quixotic quests for diversity at video games. 

But is probably some clueless corpo that didn’t pay attention or was convinced that “this is what the kids want”. Somebody said yes to almost everything and no one in the top cares enough to say “this is shit”.

(Fuck you, Jim Ryan)

[books]

Nep with the classic wrestling double turn like Bret v Austin?

[killamajig]

theleftistlawyer

The last time I spoke out about a genocide other than Palestine was (checks notes) this morning, actually. The time before that was (checks notes) yesterday. The time before that was (checks notes) Wednesday.
Huh it's almost like I do it every day.

(checks notes) It's every half hour, dude. Even in court.

theleftistlawyer

Mercy's coming back from working on a story and her plane lands at 11 pm so I'm waiting until it's time to go pick her up from the airport. AMA (not work related).

Okay, why do you hate yourself so much? 
Why only talk about the palastine "genocide"? There are other genocides. Even bigger ones you can get rock hard about.
And last one. Do you and your boyfriend girl-cock each other thinking about all the murdered Jewish people, you sick fuck?

[DocWager]

You can tell the lawyer posts on Era.

[Taco Bell Tower]

I found Benji’s Resetera account. Nice try, bet you thought you were slick. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ex-twitch-dr-disrespect-ban-for-dms-w-minor-up-cut-from-12am-turtle-beach-49ers-nba2k24-yt-de-up2-dr-confirms-up3-dr-deletes-statement.908469/page-77#post-128287929

ZeoVagina

oh hey it's me

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Melody not posting cringe on Resetera and instead gooning suicide bait on their socials is not a good vibe. 

[DavidCroquet]

There is no way I will ever believe that the Concord character designs were forced by corporate meddling.

[books]

There is no way I will ever believe that the Concord character designs were forced by corporate meddling.

Agreed. This the future, old man.

[benji]

"effective range: mid-range"

most effective at around 1/3 of the screen apart from the other player as opposed to full screen range like a zoning character (see: jp or guile) or close range character who is up in your face (see: cammy or kimberly). other sf mid-range characters are chun li, deejay, juri, luke, honda

https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Range

It's in response to him saying how long her legs are.

[Boredfrom]

The FFNB dude ranting about Concord

This whole situation just has me seething. I can't imagine what the team is feeling, and my heart goes out to them.

The part that disgusts me the most is how entitled, childish, and petty a not-insignificant portion of the gaming community, gaming press behaved from the moment Sony revealed that they were investing in live service gaming because, god forbid, a game publisher tries to diversify its portfolio and offerings to its install base by investing in a genre that is, financially, very lucrative... :/

A normal reaction to Concord's CGI reveal trailer would have been: "Disappointing that they didn't show gameplay, but at least we know what Firewalk is working on. Will reserve judgement until I see more."

A normal reaction to the Concord official cinematic and gameplay reveal would have been: "Hmm, not quite what I was expecting from this game. Hero shooters aren't my cup of tea, and I'm not really vibing with the look of the characters."

Not the complete and utter breakdown of any kind of critical analysis, constructive discourse and criticism, and just going into the game with any semblance of good faith, and I'm pointing at the game media here too, as they were also quick to announce Concord as DOA because it's releasing in an "oversaturated" market (still waiting for those recommendations of games that are just like Concord, because, no, just having hero characters, and guns, does not make it Overwatch).

This is just part of his rant. The rest is behind spoilers at RE

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-ot-calling-all-freeguners-game-being-shut-down-sep-6th-check-threadmarks.957465/page-74#post-128290404

Bonus Asshole:

Never played this but did watch quite a bit of it in the last few days. Really seems like a solid game, if a bit generic. Wrong place, wrong time release for sure. Could've probably found its footing over time, maybe getting a unique mode in there. I really can't say this failed because it's terrible.

“ I never played this. But…  ”

[Chudder Barbarity]

apparently brianna wu has finally come out as trans

Bit late, but I have to address this. This is yet again typical cis nonsense at work. Now that her career is failing, she decides now is the time to pretend she is trans for to manipulate those evil algorithms, just like those porn stars. It doesn't work  that way, you can't just say you're trans just like that. This is typical TERF subversion of trans spaces, and is insulting to us real trans queens. You will never be a transwoman, no matter how much you wish it were true, you stupid cis TERF bitch.

[Boredfrom]

The part that disgusts me the most is how entitled, childish, and petty a not-insignificant portion of the gaming community, gaming press behaved from the moment Sony revealed that they were investing in live service gaming because, god forbid, a game publisher tries to diversify its portfolio and offerings to its install base by investing in a genre that is, financially, very lucrative... :/

People were mad because the perception was that Sony was going to neglect their Single player games given they decided to go on a buying spree of GAAS game studios while closing historical and respected ones like Japan Studio. Concord didn’t prove them wrong.

[benji]

Honestly, this response isn't surprising and this type of fragility was probably rampant at the studio and baked into the culture. This isn't exclusive to video game development. In any organization, if people are tiptoeing around one another's feelings and no one is actually saying when something is very obviously shit then guess what? You are going to end up producing shit. The responsibility goes to the leadership and management who clearly were not good at their jobs and incapable of either giving or receiving feedback (or both). If you as an employee had concerns while doing your job and attempted to raise alarm bells to leadership and they didn't listen, then it isn't on you, and you shouldn't be placing any of the responsibility on yourself. And even if you didn't vocalize concerns and rather kept them to yourself, it still isn't on you because managements job is to elicit and gather that kind of genuine feedback and cultivate an open and honest work environment. What the fuck does "emotional labor" even mean in this context?

Okay, decent post, surprised to see something like that there. I hope there is nothing stupid aft…

Yes, there are financial consequences and people's livelihoods at stake. That is the fault of capitalism, not some random fuck on twitter. Name the actual problem rather than a blanket "don't criticize our work. We don't want to work in games anymore because of posts like this."

You… you just decided to blame something else…

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th-check-staff-post.970872/page-81#post-128285535

Toxic positivity is very real and a danger to any creative industry that exists under capitalism. Would be significantly less problematic if people didn't have to actually sell their art to survive but that isn't the world we live in.

I know when I think of totalitarian states where everything is mandatory and directed by the state I think of free discussion and open criticism rather than forced displays of loyalty.

[benji]

The part that disgusts me the most is how entitled, childish, and petty a not-insignificant portion of the gaming community, gaming press behaved from the moment Sony revealed that they were investing in live service gaming because, god forbid, a game publisher tries to diversify its portfolio and offerings to its install base by investing in a genre that is, financially, very lucrative... :/

Speaking of forced displays of loyalty, apparently the job of the gaming community and press is to not criticize decisions of companies they don't like. "Oh, you don't like what Sony is doing? How entitled, childish and petty."

[benji]

"You don't like that Sony is funding and giving out Hogwart's Legacy on PS+? How entitled, childish and petty."
"You don't like that Sony is publishing Stellar Blade? How entitled, childish and petty."
"You don't like that Black Myth: Wukong has sold millions? How entitled, childish and petty."

[D3RANG3D]

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If this counts as, woke then this is something we can all get behind if you catch my drift!

[Potato]

Yeah I get why she'd be upset but that anger should be directed at but those supposed evil higher-ups that forced them to create shit characters.
You can't seriously demand that people stop criticizing your characters when they objectively failed on every level. Like they should seriously be in design books on how not to do it because how often do you get a real life example of characters that factually didn't resonate with anyone. (Though like Pogi I really question that some executive suit would demand gender neutral, trans, fat etc. characters.)

Soyny are pretty out of touch though...

I guess. Maybe they figured that the game will really tap into the "modern audience". At the same time I feel like in the current environment it would be downright frowned upon if Hermen Hulst gave them feedback like "Maybe some characters could be more attractive". I'm thinking about that crazy insomniac dev who had screaming matches with other devs because they were so disgusted by the idea that Rivet could have breasts in Ratchet and Clank

I think this definitively proves that the "modern audience" doesn't exist as a collective group.

[Boredfrom]

Guess who is back?

Back from ban, so I'm not sure if I missed this being posted....but....just wtf are we doing at this point. This is close to straight up sfm porn. HOYO lost all integrity

The first thing she does is post a trailer from a gacha game featuring a lesbian. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-424

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she is bi   

[Boredfrom]

Soyny are pretty out of touch though...

I guess. Maybe they figured that the game will really tap into the "modern audience". At the same time I feel like in the current environment it would be downright frowned upon if Hermen Hulst gave them feedback like "Maybe some characters could be more attractive". I'm thinking about that crazy insomniac dev who had screaming matches with other devs because they were so disgusted by the idea that Rivet could have breasts in Ratchet and Clank

I think this definitively proves that the "modern audience" doesn't exist as a collective group.

The modern audience is “whoever bitches the loudest at social media”.

[D3RANG3D]

So people who should be strapped to rockets and shot directly into the sun?

[Boredfrom]

Loco is such a fucking stupid idiot:

 Pretty fucked up if you ask me. Undocumented people deserve the same chances as everyone else for getting state funded first-time homeowner program aid. Undocumented workers pay taxes like the rest of us but continue to be treated as second class citizens.

 

I’m not even anti immigration… but fuck you dude… they are treated as second class BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS! THAT IS THE WHOLE PROBLEM YOU DUMB ASSHOLE

https://www.resetera.com/threads/newsom-vetoes-bill-aimed-at-helping-undocumented-immigrants-buy-homes-in-the-state.974577/

[benji]

I mean I totally agree in general, but they pretty obviously don't pay income or payroll taxes. 

Not to mention the stupidity of giving large amounts of state assistance and a large loan to someone who has FRAUDALENT DOCUMENTATION and could be deported at any moment.

[kaleidoscopium]

Glad Carls back, he’s been missed

[benji]

"This needs to be a sanctuary state for undocumented immigrants!"
"I know, we'll make a great big long list of where ICE can find them that banks are federally required to turn over."

And these dudes are raging that it got killed.

   

[Boredfrom]

Without undocumented workers California would fall apart, they should have a pathway to get housing. Gavin vetoing this while sweeping out unhoused communities shows me the type of person he is. California has a housing crisis that liberals are unwilling to address, even when they have supermajorities, that state is just captured by corporate interests and beholden to the NIMBYs.

Okay… the solution for the housing crisis is making it worse. Gotcha, Booshka.