Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Chumbawumbafan69]

Insert Norman Rockwell Freedom of Speech image here.

I think it's good that the gaming video streaming website lets you filter out politics.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Insert Norman Rockwell Freedom of Speech image here.

I think it's good that the gaming video streaming website lets you filter out politics.

BASED.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

Insert Norman Rockwell Freedom of Speech image here.

I think it's good that the gaming video streaming website lets you filter out politics.

The one thing is people are going to go out of their way to somehow get their streams not flagged as politics when they are. Any of Dan Clancy's pet favourites like Hamas Piker will get special treatment as usual.

It's a good option in theory, but how they implement it and how well it works is the true test.

[Potato]

Isn’t well known that Hasan comes from money?

They can't admit their favorite "socialist" is a nepobaby. 

I mean, they would first have to admit that they all come from middle and upper-middle class families first...

[AnnoyedCanadian]

krazen

Torres is a piece of shit, its important to be against anti-semitism but he's basically gone full IDF social media. Crazy thing is that he represents an almost exclusively heavy poor Latino and POC immigrant district and hasn't gone nowhere near as hard with the current GOP rhetoric outside the usual big city Dem shouting down Trumpism. He's useless.

The fuck does going full IDF mean? Some new anti-Semitic phrase? Also, he's done more than your fat ass has done

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritchie_Torres#New_York_City_councilmember

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

He's done more for the country and minorities than Krazen ever could.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

He's done more for the country and minorities than Krazen ever could.

Most people on that dumb forum shitting on him probably haven't even read on what he has done or even heard about him before Hamas Piker started complaining about him.

Scuffed

Torres is a shitbag and his entire cause here is because Destiny and his community bombarded him with letters because he has an eternal axe to grind with Hasan being so much bigger than he is.

He's drank the Kool-Aid from Hamasabi. Just believing everything he says like people who are glued to one news channel and not questioning anything. Destiny is more concerned with Hamas Piker doing terrorist apologia, propaganda, sympathizing and other stupid shit than some fucking view count.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Destiny is more concerned with his own ego and putting Hasan down a peg. It's just streamer fans beefing with each other.

Laugh at them, not with them. 

[AnnoyedCanadian]

ZeroVagina

This is probably going to backfire and have a negative impact on LGBTQ streamers and those who speak up against the genocide.

Well, it helps that there's no valid reason to ban Hasan, so the smoke would be deserved.

Such a fucking moron on every possible topic. Communists / far leftists are completely brainwashed at this point and need severe mental help.

[Ribosome]

Isn’t well known that Hasan comes from money?

They can't admit their favorite "socialist" is a nepobaby. 

I mean, they would first have to admit that they all come from middle and upper-middle class families first...

The failsons and fail"daughters" of the bourgeoisie that just...failed to launch in so many different ways.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iran-preparing-major-retaliatory-strike-from-iraq-within-days-israeli-intel-suggests.1024818/

Defending Iran again. Anyone who attacks an ally of the USA or are anti-American is good to them which is fucking insane.

[benji]

While I do get where you're heading, I feel like you missed the biggest and most obvious reason; which is simply that by using actual slurs (at least in an unironic fashion, some jokes can get away with using slurs it if it's clever enough and seems divorced enough from personal opinion) is just a bad thing to do. In nearly all cases, it's basically someone instantly showing to everyone that they're a shitty person with hateful biases and prejudices.

I'm trying to appeal to those who see no issue with using slurs or even want to use slurs. I don't have a need to appeal to those who don't use them or think they're bad. I also don't think yelling THEY'RE BAD will convince the former.

I was not at all talking about the stategies of campaigning, but specifically about the meaning of a Black Head of State from a more revolutionary perspective. Largely, I don't think most people reckon with the ramifications of that because they just don't actually care about Black politics inasmuch as they are working towards goals of Black liberation. Indeed, people are either hostile to that or have given up on it, and instead just want Black people pulling the levers that are killing the Global South because idpol. Hell, they seem more amenable to the idea in an age where trust in America is pretty tenuous already, which is in and of itself a backhanded compliment but whatever.

As for Harris' administration, I bet you a dollar she will be like every other neoliberal Democrat of the modern era. I suspect absolutely no surprises, but I would be willing to eat crow if proven wrong on the things I actually care about.

The United States had a Black head of state for eight years.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I can't believe Benji is putting Nep in danger like that.

[benji]

Her argument in that thread is basically that the skin color of the head of state manifests itself ideologically in people's minds which will then magically trickle down into overthrowing global capitalism or some shit. She's so fucking stupid and I will never understand how nobody there clowns on her. 

[Boredfrom]

Her argument in that thread is basically that the skin color of the head of state manifests itself ideologically in people's minds which will then magically trickle down into overthrowing global capitalism or some shit. She's so fucking stupid and I will never understand how nobody there clowns on her. 

Because you get a ban and being labeled a racist for calling out the racist.

[benji]

This is probably one of the most important lawsuit in the history of journalism and half the country has no idea it's even happening.

The bubbles we've built for ourselves using social media, and the various networks of bullshit websites, have gotten totally out of hand. Viacom could go under and these guys would have literally no idea.

So, what everyone here doesn't realize is that Trump is also suing other media for even more money. It's not just CBS, they just have the case that's furthest along at the moment. We're talking multiple multi-billion dollar cases. These two add up to 430 billion. If Trump wins, that opens the door for further judgements against CBS for these claims. (Which opens the door for even further lawsuits) It's not stopping with this specific lawsuit. This is just the opening salvo. And if they don't actively change how they do business, it'll keep happening.

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-Bizarro-Dubs, probably

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dragon-age-the-veilguard-ot-halamshiral.1021152/page-34

I'm so torn on this.
On the one hand the lighting is incredible, the combat is fun, the game is beautiful and there's lots of collectables.
On the other, the dialogue is stilted, the dialogue animations are the stiffest in the series, and a lot of the presentation and story seems... off.
[ISPOILER]Like... was it always this easy for people to go in and out of the veil? why is everyone acting like its not even that weird to see blight in Arlathan, which I thought was essentially a secret in and of itself? Why did my character just say trans?[/ISPOILER]
The story and world seem just different enough to make it feel like its a different game wearing a dragon age skin. I'm having fun, but I miss the subtle animations and meaningful worldbuilding of Inquistion and Origins.

What do you mean about the [ISPOILER]trans[/ISPOILER] part?

I mean[ISPOILER] there's a mirror item you can look at early in the game and there's several choices to decide whether your character is trans and how they feel about it. instead of it just being a choice and then moving on your character gives a little speech and they all feel very performative and out of place. Like, dragon age has up to this point been a pretty grounded setting and whenever a trans charater shows up ala Krem, they've had a very careful way of talking about them that doesn't use any real world terms. Here in the Veilguard I decided to save scum to see what the different options did and the character gives a thirty second speech where they say the word trans as in "boy do I love being trans" (not the actual quote.) it just feels weird.[/ISPOILER]

I mean, every single moment where the character is reflecting to themselves like that feels a it awkward imo - so it's not just that part.

Sounds like a little bit of inclusivity to me, which is good.

I think the case is where they are almost trying too hard to be socially conscious. Very "How do you do, fellow queer folks?"

Every single time the character does that kind of dialogue it sounds awkward, so is it much different there?

How do you trigger it exactly? I'll take a look when I can.

the inclusivity is good. absolutely. But [ISPOILER]its done is the most poorly written and "look we're supportive" way possible. They could cut out the second sentence from each option and they would be better. It's uncomfortable the way it is now, not affirming.[/ISPOILER]

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dragon-age-the-veilguard-ot-halamshiral.1021152/page-34

Sounds like a little bit of inclusivity to me, which is good.

Sounds like shit to me, which is good.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dragon-age-the-veilguard-ot-halamshiral.1021152/page-34

I'm so torn on this.
On the one hand the lighting is incredible, the combat is fun, the game is beautiful and there's lots of collectables.
On the other, the dialogue is stilted, the dialogue animations are the stiffest in the series, and a lot of the presentation and story seems... off.
[ISPOILER]Like... was it always this easy for people to go in and out of the veil? why is everyone acting like its not even that weird to see blight in Arlathan, which I thought was essentially a secret in and of itself?  Why did my character just say trans?[/ISPOILER]
The story and world seem just different enough to make it feel like its a different game wearing a dragon age skin.  I'm having fun, but I miss the subtle animations and meaningful worldbuilding of Inquistion and Origins.

What do you mean about the [ISPOILER]trans[/ISPOILER] part?

I mean[ISPOILER] there's a mirror item you can look at early in the game and there's several choices to decide whether your character is trans and how they feel about it.  instead of it just being a choice and then moving on your character gives a little speech and they all feel very performative and out of place.  Like, dragon age has up to this point been a pretty grounded setting and whenever a trans charater shows up ala Krem, they've had a very careful way of talking about them that doesn't use any real world terms.  Here in the Veilguard I decided to save scum to see what the different options did and the character gives a thirty second speech where they say the word trans as in "boy do I love being trans" (not the actual quote.) it just feels weird.[/ISPOILER]

I mean, every single moment where the character is reflecting to themselves like that feels a it awkward imo - so it's not just that part.

Sounds like a little bit of inclusivity to me, which is good.

I think the case is where they are almost trying too hard to be socially conscious. Very "How do you do, fellow queer folks?"

Every single time the character does that kind of dialogue it sounds awkward, so is it much different there?

How do you trigger it exactly? I'll take a look when I can.

the inclusivity is good.  absolutely.  But [ISPOILER]its done is the most poorly written and "look we're supportive" way possible.  They could cut out the second sentence from each option and they would be better.  It's uncomfortable the way it is now, not affirming.[/ISPOILER]

I think this is my biggest complaint with the Mage combat so far. Enemies are clearly programmed to go for YOU and larger ones rarely get distracted by the party members. I am doing A LOT of constant dodging. I'm hopeful when we get a Warrior in the party this issue is solved. Obviously bosses are always going to come after you eventually but I need something to get this aggro off me in the minute to minute combat.


And I am telling you that your implication of it being a performative "we're supportive" sentiment is off base. And your reasoning for why you don't like the use of the word "transgender" is something I find silly.


No, I really don't think I'm the one that needs to do some reflecting here. Calling trans writers out for adding positive transgender player options and language into their game is the bad take.

You are desperately misunderstanding their point, being incredibly insensitive, and very rude.

Reported your post.

[Jansen]

Just catching up here. So if we're calibrating the TOS then I'll weigh in:

Generally speaking I'm pro-free expression and anti-censorship. That having been said...there hasn't been a really good reason to use any of the classic "slurs"in quite some time. Most of the radioactive ones are that way for a pretty good reason, and the recent additions...it's just a matter of risk-reward in my opinion.  "Read the room" is a pretty good ROE.

Even before this current age of hypersensitivity was visited upon us, I had settled upon a fairly trustworthy strategy for online discourse: attack the argument, not the speaker.  Personalities clash, trends fade, but logic persists.  That was my guiding principle.  And if I stuck to it, I was bulletproof  

Then, 2014 happened.  Discourse changed.  Logic changed. 

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The definition of praxis changed 

There's nothing wrong with gathering here and shining a light on loonies who are trying to, among solving other Gordian knots,  guilt the West into burning itself down on behalf of its legion of adversaries  (some of whom who would glady reward their otherwise  Unapologetically Queer allies' contributions to the Fall™ with complimentary neck rides on a 10 story crane [but y'all ain't ready for that conversation]).

Tl/DR:

Just quote em and never ever let em off the hook; no need to prove them right on a dare.

Shut up faggot

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitch-will-soon-launch-a-new-content-classification-label-for-politics-and-sensitive-social-issues.1024899/

Oh RE is mad. Meanwhile I don't think this will do much

First post

Can't wait to see queer streamers being automatically labelled as that.

Well, said streamers shouldn't be talking about politics then

Yeah this is definitely going to be weaponized against queer and BIPOC folk.

Isn't there already a "politics" category on Twitch? Adding "Sensitive Social Issues" (they are going to have to be crystal clear on what that is) to that is probably going to be bad.

Booshka

Sensitive Social Issues will be determined by a panel of 30-45 year old divorced or never married white dudes.

/s but this is probably closer to true than false

From my understanding Hasan Piker is out of contract and no longer running ads.

This certainly impacts small streamers though. This will for sure get weaponized by the more overzealous community.

Also absurd Asmon only got 2 weeks for his ban but others were given 4.

Absurb Hasan didn't get a ban at all.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-a-last-minute-election-snafu-president-joe-biden-decides-babies-are-on-the-menu-four-of-them.1024869/#post-130968408

Jesus, this again? Trump would do the same shit, but he would slurp. Probably lick his lips making full eye contact, too.

Biden would never. At least not the slurping part.

Bro you're talking about a kid..

Ree, never beating the allegations

[benji]

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It's clear she doesn't want to talk about it at all, despite it being Trump's closing argument. I'm partially frustrated because I don't think it'd be that hard to say "Listen, trans people deserve respect and not to be used a political weapon. I think we need to focus more on X." That little signal would probably enough to not evoke outrage or avoid the GOP framing. But either way, it's sad this is where we are.

I also wonder what Obama's campaign in '08 would have been like if we had the modern internet? How furious would people have been about his gay marriage stance and clear political calculations on the issue?

GOP has the insane advantage of being able to basically say publicly appealing things while their base understands they don't mean it. Ideally Democrats could get to a similar place by voting democrats no matter what then primary-ing any democrat who isn't more progressive and applying the same kind of pressures the GOP do. The problem being that it's much easier to do that when conservatism is built around self-centeredness and it kind of goes against some of the reasons people vote Democrat.

Ultimately I think the Democrats best long term strategy is anti-rich/anti-elite sentiment. Imagine if there was a Fox News equivalent that did nothing but highlight all the heinous shit these megacorporations and ultra rich people do on a daily basis? Unfortunately the rich seem keenly aware of this and quash anything/anyone like this quickly.

Aren't you the guys bragging about the big donors you're pulling in this cycle? And all the celebrities and other elites are on your side?

[benji]

In my lame phone idle games I keep getting ads from this Future Forward PAC* and you'll never guess some of the money behind it:

A husband-and-wife duo whose fortune has ties to AI investments and cryptocurrency trading are quietly emerging as some of the largest backers of the main dark-money group boosting President Joe Biden.

The second-largest donation in 2022 to the non-profit arm of Future Forward, the primary Super PAC supporting Biden, came from a group run by James McClave and Emily Berger. The couple work at Jane Street, a Manhattan trading firm, and McClave was an early investor in the AI company Anthropic.

...

McClave was an early investor in Anthropic, which runs the AI chatbot Claude, participating in the company’s Series A and Series B rounds in 2021 and 2022. He was co-investors in the company with FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried – who used to work at Jane Street and was also a major campaign donor – before Bankman-Fried’s financial collapse and conviction for fraud and conspiracy.

...

In addition to supporting Future Forward, McClave and Berger’s non-profit also gave another $7 million in 2022 to the Center for Voter Information, a group that works to encourage young people, women and minorities to vote and is run by a former Democratic political operative. It also made smaller donations to two other left-leaning groups.

McClave and Berger are also the officers of the similarly named BEMC Foundation, a private foundation that has given a total of about $2.5 million in recent years to Vox Media’s Future Perfect Project, which produces news stories on global issues.

Techbros out to genocide artists backing pro-genocide Kamala.  

That Center for Voter Information thing sends me physical mail every single day trying to shame me into voting.  

*

The effort is being steered by Future Forward PAC, or FF PAC, the largest single-candidate super PAC in the 2024 election. And the group is breaking from traditional political advertising by focusing half of its $450 million budget on digital platforms – including what it says is the largest political ad buy in YouTube history – crafting highly targeted content to capture and hold the attention of voters.

Chuds who smear Star Wars and The Marvels right now: 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dragon-age-the-veilguard-ot-halamshiral.1021152/page-34#post-130974861

Given that you haven't even seen the scene we were talking about, maybe you should also take some time to look at things from a different perspective. Especially before you start throwing around accusations, acting like an authority on queer feelings, and smugly telling me that you've reported my post.

No, really, you keep telling me that I am not understanding their point. But I'm pretty sure I do. I never said they had to like the scene or even think it's the best way it could be handled. I had two issues with what they said, one being that the use of the word transgender in this game was bad, which I strongly disagree with, and the second being that them painting it as performative with the "we're supportive" line was off-base given the people who made this game. I didn't address their "I don't think the scene is well written" argument because that's not what I had an issue with (though I do think it's very overblown and the suggestion that it's so off-putting is silly to me). But it's quite telling that when I said this you BOTH jumped to "as a queer person, you are wrong to say this to me", as if you know literally anything about me.

Since you're both done responding to me, I'll say this.
I think it's very sad that we have this AAA RPG by trans creators letting you identify as transgender in a meaningful way and after seeing a bunch of bigots on youtube and twitter claiming it's performative woke trash, I come on ResetEra and basically see people saying the same thing with just half the buzzwords. Maybe it's okay to just fucking celebrate a win for once, jesus christ.

Yeah alright, now I'm going to go cool off because I'm upset.
Guess we'll see if your report works or not later. If so, bye I guess y'all, hope everyone in here enjoys the game.

It ain't that deep, but if they got actioned for anything it should be continuing to harass the posters.

[Chumbawumbafan69]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dragon-age-the-veilguard-ot-halamshiral.1021152/page-34

Sounds like a little bit of inclusivity to me, which is good.

Sounds like shit to me, which is good.

That really sums up all this nonsense. "Inclusivity" has become the only priority, with quality barely an afterthought. I’m all for interesting stories that deal with these themes, a character dealing with being trans in a world where magic is real and could just change your gender could actually be interesting if written by anyone that has even the slightest sense of subtlety and creativity. But instead, it’s being shoehorned in the laziest way possible, with writing that's made just to please these assholes who think inclusivity by itself is a good replacement for solid storytelling.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dragon-age-the-veilguard-ot-halamshiral.1021152/page-34#post-130974861

Yeah alright, now I'm going to go cool off because I'm upset.
Guess we'll see if your report works or not later. If so, bye I guess y'all, hope everyone in here enjoys the game.

It ain't that deep, but if they got actioned for anything it should be continuing to harass the posters.

I say ban 'em for three days to see if they write another essay in the Constructive thread about it.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I say ban 'em for three days to see if they write another essay in the Constructive thread about it.

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-avengers-have-reassembled-to-endorse-kamala-harris.1024755/

I'd like to have some other Bore members opinion on this. This is mine:

It boggles the mind that ANYONE would think a celebrity endorsement counts for shit. Who the fuck thinks to themselves 'I was undecided on Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, but Taylor Swift sez vote for Kamala? Then Kamala got my vote!'

Nothing puts me off MORE than celebrity endorsements. Democrats are the worst for it. If you're struggling to make ends meet in your job, why the fuck are celebrities who earn multiple $1,000,000's per movie, and who live a lifestyle you will never have in your wildest dreams, swinging your vote? I'm infinitely less likely to vote for a party just because Tay-Tay, and now ScarJo, are brown-nosing Kamala.

Republicans also completely suck in this regard, but in a different way. All their celebrity endorsements are from crazy dipshits like that Pillow-fucking guy, or from Hollywood has-beens like Kevin Sorbo, that whiney dude who played Superman in the 90's and Chachi from Happy Days. But in Republicans case, it's insane people preaching to largely insane people, aka, preaching to the already converted so it doesn't matter.

Besides, it's been proven that celebrity endorsements have virtually no influence, so not sure why politicians sucking hog for them. A month ago, Swifties pressured TayTay into supporting Kamala and it only added a couple of 100,000 registrations. And most young voters are just like Era voters: all bark and no bite. They never come out in huge numbers to vote. 

If you need to be told which way to vote by a celebrity, than you have no business voting in the first place.

It’s always been bizarre when the old argument against Trump, The Rock, Kanye, Arnold, etc. is they’re dumb celebrities and not politicians. But you’re still meant to care about their political stances when they’re endorsing somebody else.

To quote my write-in candidate: I like some of the Clooney movies. What the fuck does he know about politics.

[garamonde]

astro hyper fixating on every game they play, taking everyone hostage that dares to have a different opinion is a marvelous thing to witness. It happens every single time. 

The 'Victim Olympics' in-fighting is the fucking cherry on the autistic cake.