Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[benji]

It's obvious in those threads who actually believes Trump will genocide them or seize power or whatever and who doesn't. Pretty much all of HamasEra/NepentheEra does not believe Trump will ultimately do anything to them, they expect him to be a completely normal President. They've never expressed this belief before (like say, benji) because the threat of Trump was too useful to their bad faith tactics previously, now he's useless.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

I'm just having a hard time comprehending why they will not vote for Kamala despite her supporting all of their ideals and politics apparently aside from the Gaza stuff. Which in the end, I turned out to be correct and she was just waiting for the right time to say it.

I totally understand protest votes if both candidates are garbage and you don't agree with pretty much anything either says. One specific issue like this where she has made her view known now (and I'm pretty sure she's said it before), is a pretty dumb reason not to vote. Elections have literally been one by one vote many times so they make think their votes won't count, but they possibly could.

I've been voting almost liberal my entire adult life here in Canada (the odd NDP vote sometimes, but the party sucks where I'm at and is better out west) and while I don't agree with maybe like 10% of stuff on the issues, I still vote for them and do my civic duty to vote. Single issue voters are just a big baffling thing to my brain and just seems so stupid, especially in this election.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kamala-harris-opens-michigan-rally-by-addressing-gaza-and-palestinians-%E2%80%9Cwhen-i-am-president-i-will-do-everything-in-my-power-to-end-the-war-in-gaza%E2%80%9D.1026633/page-10#post-131161440

B-dubs swooped in to silence Muslim voices. Don't worry, Ocarina_117 reposted the video from another source.

Mod edit: please don't post stuff from conspiracy nuts

[AnnoyedCanadian]

The one thing I'm wondering about is how many people will be banned tomorrow and if B-Dumbs will lose his mind on someone like he did with Nep awhile ago.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

If Trump wins? There will be a reckoning against HamasEra.

if Kamala wins? HamasEra will rain on the parade.

The bire wins either way.  

[benji]

I'm just having a hard time comprehending why they will not vote for Kamala despite her supporting all of their ideals and politics apparently aside from the Gaza stuff. Which in the end, I turned out to be correct and she was just waiting for the right time to say it.
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Single issue voters are just a big baffling thing to my brain and just seems so stupid, especially in this election.

Because they aren't single issue voters. They're people who want to "out radical" the other idiots on the forum and this is the means to do so.

Even real single issue voters are not people who discard everything else for a single issue, they're voters who prioritize a single issue. Voters who support everything Kamala but are pro-life so will vote Trump are so incredibly rare that to get one on a forum would be strange, to get hundreds would never happen. Those single issue voters would start finding other reasons to support Trump like economy, etc. to go with their single issue priority. The other type basically does not exist.

They don't want to vote and they're looking for reasons why not, and like all subjects they feel this is something they need to browbeat others with. I don't vote, the possibility of me being convinced to vote other than amusement is borderline nil, but I don't torture all of you with your moral complicity in state violence because it's a complete waste of time if I actually wanted to convince anyone rather than morally lecture them.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

You could've wrote in Nep for president but noo, Benji just didn't want to vote. 

[benji]

You could've wrote in Nep for president but noo, Benji just didn't want to vote. 

FACT CHECK: I refuse to make her emotionally labor in complicity with capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy.

[D3RANG3D]

Do the right thing and vote...

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https://verminsupreme.com

[benji]

[Anti-Monitor]

Finally someone talking about the important stuff

But seriously, it's amusing considering the devs talked about how the character creator is one of the core pillars of the game and how it's like the most inclusive one ever

It grinds my gears when you can have all sort of pronoun stuff which is untranslatable as well as top scars but I can’t even get my tit size.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

is that as big as they go or is that with the top scars option selected?

[Nintex]

I'm just having a hard time comprehending why they will not vote for Kamala despite her supporting all of their ideals and politics apparently aside from the Gaza stuff. Which in the end, I turned out to be correct and she was just waiting for the right time to say it.

Maybe because she dropped nearly all of her ideals and just does what Obama/Biden campaign people tell her to do.

[Besticus Maximus]

Bdubs, well done, your forum has done a better job of convincing people not to vote for Kamala Harris than Nintex 

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

is that as big as they go

Yes.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

is that as big as they go

Yes.

DISGUSTING

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kamala-harris-opens-michigan-rally-by-addressing-gaza-and-palestinians-%E2%80%9Cwhen-i-am-president-i-will-do-everything-in-my-power-to-end-the-war-in-gaza%E2%80%9D.1026633/page-10#post-131164374

is our country is really so inherently fucked up that one person can singlehandedly dismantle democracy if he feels like it

i mean maybe it is fuck if i know

It's not. This idea comes from the fear based politics narrative pushed by establishment liberal media. It's just as ridiculous as the idea that Kamala is a communist. Trump may very well be a fascist but the republican party, as awful as they are is not a fascist party, unless of course you don't think the word fascist has any meaning at all. If you read or listen to people who study political theory, political economy and so on you'll find that very few with a robust leftist background are worried about Trump ending democracy in America.

So, if you want to know what another four years with Trump will be like, then just look at his first four years. Despite all the clownery, most of the politics was standard republican politics. Which is awful, for sure, but it's not the end of democracy. To overthrow American democracy you need support from at least a couple of the following institutions: the military, the police, the intelligence apparatus, the justice system - all of whom disavowed jan 6th and have committed to protecting American democracy. Furthermore, it's not in the self interest of republican politicians to turn America into a fascist authoritarian state.

America has two rightwing neoliberal parties. They have different aesthetics aka progressive vs conservative to make you feel like there's much more at stake here but overall they overlap far more than they differ. Electoral college, parliament system etc won't fix a single thing either. Just look at Europe: we're on the exact same trajectory.
What we have here is a systemic issue with the global economic system that's undermining the ability of nations and organized workers to create economies that work for ordinary people. So remember that the purpose of elections isn't to decide the political future of a nation, but to legitimize the political (and by extension economic) system itself. Your vote, whether you are a dem or a republican is the energy that sustains the system. You can't hold the system accountable by voting for it.

FREE THOUGHT DETECTED FREE THOUGHT DETECTED

[benji]

Bdubs, well done, your forum has done a better job of convincing people not to vote for Kamala Harris than Nintex 

It convinced himself even after he misogynistically sexually assaulted Nepenthe over it just a couple weeks ago.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kamala-harris-opens-michigan-rally-by-addressing-gaza-and-palestinians-%E2%80%9Cwhen-i-am-president-i-will-do-everything-in-my-power-to-end-the-war-in-gaza%E2%80%9D.1026633/page-10#post-131164374

What we have here is a systemic issue with the global economic system that's undermining the ability of nations and organized workers to create economies that work for ordinary people.

Love how the international revolution failed so hard that the left has basically accepted nationalist autarky as their central economic ideal now because central planning can't work otherwise.

[Polident]

is that as big as they go

Yes.

Getting flashbacks to life before I visited jelqing tips.

[benji]

And ANOTHER THING...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kamala-harris-opens-michigan-rally-by-addressing-gaza-and-palestinians-%E2%80%9Cwhen-i-am-president-i-will-do-everything-in-my-power-to-end-the-war-in-gaza%E2%80%9D.1026633/page-9#post-131159319

The fight today is to keep Trump out of office. If we don't win that, there will be no more fight to win. Nothing but a physical revolution can stop that, which might work, might not. But one thing is for sure, if acceleration is your goal you're intentionally throwing the most vulnerable into the fire.

Are you trying to bait me into an acceleration ban after the little number one of the admins did in the Clinton thread? Don't waste my time.

I don't have a clue what you're talking about. but if someone got banned for advocating acceleration, I understand why

They're accelerationists as much as they are single issue voters or people who fear Trump. It's probably the one part of Marx they reject: that capitalism has to peak before socialism can even be considered. They're adapted to the Leninist-Maoist path that argues that an elite (as defined by those who most adhere to the faith) can skip this step by the purity of their intent. Hence the constant demands for capitalism to be stopped from ending scarcity, for returns to a time when all were poorer and thus more easily directed by a local self-declared elite. The rejection of electoralism isn't a return to Marx as that was also altered when Lenin simply overthrew elections when they didn't provide the result he wanted. (Mao refused to participate in something he was expected to lose.)

The betrayal of the Democratic Party is the same as the betrayal of the SPD and others that came post-Marx when they acceded to reformism as legitimate rather than elections as the first step in a permanent socialist revolution. The Greens or Cornel West represent the same problem as most of the Continental Socialist parties did, and the Bolsheviks did not, namely that if they can't win they aren't a viable vehicle to immediate victory and if they can win they aren't sufficiently radical.

But ultimately it requires them to reject democracy in any and all forms (not just voting) because the majority will never be sufficiently radical. I was wrong above because they depart from Marx here* too:

We know that heed must be paid to the institutions, customs and traditions of the various countries, and we do not deny that there are countries, such as America and England and if I was familiar with its institutions, I might include Holland, where the workers may attain their goal by peaceful means. That being the case, we must recognise that in most continental countries the lever of revolution will have to be force; a resort to force will be necessary one day in order to set up the rule of labour.

*sometimes, Marx was all over the place about this depending on who he was angrily lecturing

[Boredfrom]

Are you really so eager to one-up your white admin buddy after he accused a Palestinian user of parroting fascist talking points and banned them just for pointing out liberal media had manufactured consent for genocide? Man, this is incredibly disappointing, but that's what you get in communities where white USians are the majority. They will do their best to make sure brown folks leave, either by baiting them into bans, mass-reporting them, or dehumanizing them to the point they just leave on their own. Do some introspection, pal, because this shit ain't it.

[benji]

NO 👏 MORE 👏 YTS 👏 ON 👏 STAFF 👏 EXCEPT 👏 TRANS 👏 MEMBERS 👏

EXPEL 👏 WHITES 👏 AND 👏 WHITE 👏 ADJACENTS 👏 FROM 👏 STAFF 👏

END 👏 COLONIZER 👏 RULE 👏 OVER 👏 RESETERA.COM 👏

[benji]

PUT 👏 RACE 👏 AND 👏 ETHNICITY 👏 NEXT 👏 TO 👏 MEMBERS 👏 POSTS 👏

[benji]

She absolutely would lose the election if she said it was genocide. America is so much overrun by a far-right, right-wing, and center-right media and social media machine (even MSNBC, e.g. is full of center-right commentators and producers) that saying anything to this effect would be tantamount to an "October surprise" (month irrelevant) that would have ended her campaign.

Where do we go to get the centrist or even center-left media? It's like their bragging that they know about actual progressive forums then they never tell us where we could be safe.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

How the hell is MSNBC centre-right? It's liberal from what I've watched.

Being a liberal is a worse sin than being a conservative to these brain dead idiots. God forbid I don't agree with everything leftists say and I may have a conservative opinion or two.

[D3RANG3D]

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What the fuck, I love Shazam now!

[AnnoyedCanadian]

Arebours

No third party energy here. Like I said, Europe is on the same trajectory even though there are plenty of parties in most European countries to choose from. My energy is that the best you can do is to disconnect from the circuit of electoral politics and maybe start a local Marx reading group or something. That probably won't change anything, but it's much more hygientic then subjecting yourself to this predatory political system that only cares about extracting political energy from you.

The root cause for this situation is capital mobility and neither side has a credible strategy to deal with that. So capital mobility will increase, and life(raising a family, buying a house, having some kind of work security, retirement, education and so on) for ordinary people will keep getting worse. Since politics can't do anything about the economy anymore they'll have to continue manufacturing crises to engage increasingly disillusioned voters or otherwise risk the system losing its legitimacy. I mean, we're already at the point where people will vote for someone they despise because they think the alternative is the apocalypse. So parties don't even have to deliver on anything except the occasional symbolic gesture(often exaggerated as the most successful program in the last century!). There isn't even a need for a positive political program anymore, just convince people that the other side's hope is well founded.

Most of my analysis is standard leftist/marxists analysis but I guess this isn't an appropriate place for that kind of discourse.

[AnnoyedCanadian]

ContractHolder

I'm sorry, but no. I'm going to because every time these new IPs get promoted even here, there's usually radio silence. The second a cancellation or "at risk of cancellation" thread comes up, suddenly everyone and their mother decides to show up.

We've seen other fanbases/genre fans show up when they're supposed to, and those shows get renewed pretty quickly.

People have to show up when these new IPs come out. That's how they get renewed. But most of the times I see excuses vs other genres that people get baffled get renewed or sequel IPs that people complain keep coming around.

I can't stand this fucking guy. Much like Edmond, KSweeley, LoudNinja and DinkyDev. Just makes new topics and doesn't say anything the majority of the time. When he does, he's a petulant cunt like here.

The radio silence is because you act like a news bot the vast majority of the time and when people chat, you're a twat to them. But please, do tell us when the next Mickey Mouse TV show or children's show is coming out and blame everyone on the forum for why it's cancelled you idiot.

[benji]

Arebours

No third party energy here. Like I said, Europe is on the same trajectory even though there are plenty of parties in most European countries to choose from. My energy is that the best you can do is to disconnect from the circuit of electoral politics and maybe start a local Marx reading group or something. That probably won't change anything, but it's much more hygientic then subjecting yourself to this predatory political system that only cares about extracting political energy from you.

The root cause for this situation is capital mobility and neither side has a credible strategy to deal with that. So capital mobility will increase, and life(raising a family, buying a house, having some kind of work security, retirement, education and so on) for ordinary people will keep getting worse. Since politics can't do anything about the economy anymore they'll have to continue manufacturing crises to engage increasingly disillusioned voters or otherwise risk the system losing its legitimacy. I mean, we're already at the point where people will vote for someone they despise because they think the alternative is the apocalypse. So parties don't even have to deliver on anything except the occasional symbolic gesture(often exaggerated as the most successful program in the last century!). There isn't even a need for a positive political program anymore, just convince people that the other side's hope is well founded.

Most of my analysis is standard leftist/marxists analysis but I guess this isn't an appropriate place for that kind of discourse.

Except for the bolded part, he's right.