Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Greatness Gone]

based joanne shitting on those heckin Reetards 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-does-the-black-community-vote-better-than-everyone-else.1030320/page-2
NepNep

The very act of collapsing literally thousands of ethnic groups and cultures under one "Black" race has had this communal effect where, no matter where you go on the planet, a Black person is very likely to relate to on some level with the political struggles of other Black peoples outside of their country, much less within it. And, given that we were never to be intended beneficiaries of these political structures, we are simply more likely to vote for the most viable leftward option by default or- failing to achieve satisfactory outcomes from that- to fall into organizing and activism instead.

There's also the fact that despite our colonization, we didn't get hit with the reservation treatment that Indigenous people suffered and shunned from society altogether. There were enough of us remaining after abolition for a multitude of reasons (funniest one being logistics; read up on how the Portuguese basically kidnapped too many Africans for them to wield physical power over them easily) that it was simply common sense to start trying to achieve some level of assimilation within the American framework.

After all, your original cultural ties were destroyed. Whatever ethnic group you were in, you have no record of. You now all speak English. You're now all reading the white man's Bible. You're now all under the white man's laws. And you've got no hope of going back to Africa because where in Africa would you even go? All you've got in this world is other "Black" people right here. So you all stick together. You start forging ways to scrounge up a dignified existence. You start learning how to protect yourself because whites will literally will burn your town down because it existed too hard for their liking. You fundamentally understand you have fuck all to gain from trying to appeal to these crazy-ass folks. So voting patterns naturally follow and largely become part of a cultural milieu based upon survival and self-preservation.

Other groups like East Asians and non-Black Hispanics don't have that experience. Many believe proximity to whiteness is a valid goal to ascribe to, that the capitalism that continues to fuck over Black people is the best we can do, and thus are more likely to have political splits within American politics. Granted, don't think this means Biden was right and Black folks don't actually have a rich and varied political history and are this monolith. We've always fought with each other over culture. And we've always fought with each other on the best ways to attain freedom and liberation, and we've always been quite amenable to communalism, socialism, communism, and other alternative ways of organization. Some of the tenets of these political systems are actually ingrained in Black culture just as a matter of distributing resources better.

It's just that most of us know to keep it together when we're in front of the rest of y'all.

[D3RANG3D]

based joanne shitting on those heckin Reetards 

[Boredfrom]

Nepenthe… get over yourself. Black people are not the only ethnic group with an awful history of suffering.

You are just a fucking bitch as racist living IN PRIVILEGE.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

based joanne shitting on those heckin Reetards 

How can she be so right. 

Please Democrats. Become the party of the working class again. Drop the identity politics and talk about things actual people and not online liberals care about.

[D3RANG3D]

The most oppressed race on Earth is the Gamer, prove me wrong ya cant'!

[Potato]

Can you connect the blue dots to form a front before they are snuffed out by MAGA forces?

If Harry Potter can do it SO CAN WE

FIGHT
FIGHT
FIGHT

Frankly, you can fight it… you just don’t need to be a retard about it… so that is the challenge.

First up, drop the culture war garbage.

Second, take the extremists out back and show them how Stalin dealt with his political problems.

Third, pick a boring, male, middle American candidate who can actually string a coherent sentence together and who represents what you want America to be.

Spoiler: Super secret fourth step (click to show)(click to hide)

Go back and make sure those extremists are dead by putting another bullet in them

[Potato]

ComedySmasher


Then don't play the games and shut the fuck up maybe?

Like you were going to give them any money anyhow. You joyless cunt. Do you actually enjoy anything in life? This man is pussy repellent incarnate.

First and only time I'll agree with PlanetSmasher tbh. Batman and his rogue gallery are boring as fuck, and after what happened in Arkham City I just rolled my eyes and sighed at the ridiculous way they shoehorned him into Arkham Knight.

All the trans vultures have circled and targeted the thread about outreaching men, even excelsiorlef is there:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-does-progressive-outreach-to-men-look-like-how-can-we-turn-the-tide.1028586/page-20

I understand trans women and their plight, it sucks to have gender dysphoria, but at what point, does everyone stop larping when talking about these issues, as if they experienced anything similar to women have experienced in their early life? They were one of us! 

It's like if you played a MMO, bought the story skip and tell everyone afterwards how much you enjoyed the writing of the game.

Bruh, stop pretending.

I'm a lefty and fucking hate Trump, but those cunts brigading that thread almost make me glad he won. Just no sense of self-awareness from that lot.

"CIS MEN SUCK! ALL MEN SUCK! Fuck 'em!"

*CIS men move further and further to the right, Trump in power again*

 "  "

No sympathy for them.

Dropping the Le Funny mask for a moment to say 100% agree. The Dems need to fix their platform and fix it fast but I doubt they have the self reflective skills to do it.

Absolutely. You don't lose the house, the senate and the presidency if your platform is appealing to the general population.

[Averon]

Terminally online progressives absolutely had a part in turning off young men, just men in general. Why was Trump able to run on idpol when Kamala didn't even campaign on it? She barely mentioned it! She focused on the working class! So why was that anti-LGBT ad from Trump the signature ad of this cycle? Because the majority of people now digest their information via the internet and social media. Cable news averages like 1 mlllion viewers and the average age is 65. The majority of people get their news online. And what's been most prevalent online the past several years?

Person #1: You have to agree with me on these 100 issues no matter what
Person #2: I'm totally with you on 99 of them but man I'm a little iffy on that last one
Person #1: You're an awful human being and should be shunned from society
Person #2: Alright peace ✌️

Kamala's campaign was on point. I'm so damn proud of what she pulled off given the circumstances. She focused on the right things that the vast majority of Americans care about but it didn't matter because the party's attached to the hip to a perpetually angry, toxic, all-or-nothing, virtue signaling hellscape that 90% of Americans, average everyday folks, can't relate to whatsoever.

I don't see any way out of this. We've lost an entire generation of men, probably multiple generations. We're completely fucked.

Direct ERA call out

What thread is this from? Need to keep track for future ban.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-does-progressive-outreach-to-men-look-like-how-can-we-turn-the-tide.1028586/page-21#post-131351016

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

You're a hero.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-does-the-black-community-vote-better-than-everyone-else.1030320/page-2

You start learning how to protect yourself because whites will literally will burn your town down because it existed too hard for their liking. You fundamentally understand you have fuck all to gain from trying to appeal to these crazy-ass folks.

Last week it was "everybody needs to come together for the common goal of dismantling capitalism, despite their differences" where I was confused that Nepenthe wanted to work with whites.  Now it's back to this.  Got it.

Cool.

So if I google "white people burn town black people USA" I should get multiple examples where this has happened in recent times, right?

https://www.binnews.com/content/2021-05-27-we-remember-chronicling-10-race-massacres-in-america/

OK cool, I found something that might fill me in...

Rosewood, Florida (1923)
Atlanta, Georgia (1906)
Colfax, Louisiana (1873)
Wilmington, North Carolina (1898)
Elaine, Arkansas (1919)
East St. Louis, Illinois (1917)
Washington, D.C. (1919)
Memphis, Tennessee (1866)
Clinton, Mississippi (1875)
Chicago, Illinois (1919)

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I would agree with him but Kamala's campaign wasn't, at all, "ON POINT". 

[Mediocre Lager]

Let's try the same campaign again in 2028. Third time's the charm.

[Nintex]

I would agree with him but Kamala's campaign wasn't, at all, "ON POINT". 

Her campaign was flawless

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/racist-cotton-picking-texts-sent-nationwide.1029852/page-2#post-131347752

What scares me is the implication that they're already making lists.

I told the kid to get his ass off Twitter, but he says it's making him part of the resistance. That he's going to use it to shit on Republicans and Elon, but I'm worried that they're gonna have a public record of him being a gay kid.

When Elon gets put in charge of the DOD, that's it.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-does-the-black-community-vote-better-than-everyone-else.1030320/page-2

You start learning how to protect yourself because whites will literally will burn your town down because it existed too hard for their liking. You fundamentally understand you have fuck all to gain from trying to appeal to these crazy-ass folks.

Last week it was "everybody needs to come together for the common goal of dismantling capitalism, despite their differences" where I was confused that Nepenthe wanted to work with whites.  Now it's back to this.  Got it.

Cool.

So if I google "white people burn town black people USA" I should get multiple examples where this has happened in recent times, right?

https://www.binnews.com/content/2021-05-27-we-remember-chronicling-10-race-massacres-in-america/

OK cool, I found something that might fill me in...

Rosewood, Florida (1923)
Atlanta, Georgia (1906)
Colfax, Louisiana (1873)
Wilmington, North Carolina (1898)
Elaine, Arkansas (1919)
East St. Louis, Illinois (1917)
Washington, D.C. (1919)
Memphis, Tennessee (1866)
Clinton, Mississippi (1875)
Chicago, Illinois (1919)

Uhm, chuddie? A white man kneeled on George Floyd's neck. He's the one who started the riots there and caused the damage, not the protestors.

[Potato]

based joanne shitting on those heckin Reetards 

Right wing media is both weak and nobody watches it, but it is also strong and highly influential.

Can we get an Orwell emote please?

[Greatness Gone]

remember when reetard mods banned people for calling twitter language like "latinx" dumb? (they ended up locking it because of the overwhelming amount of people saying it was retarded)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-democrats-fall-flat-with-%E2%80%98latinx%E2%80%99-language.523995/

well...

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-does-the-black-community-vote-better-than-everyone-else.1030320/page-2
NepNep

The very act of collapsing literally thousands of ethnic groups and cultures under one "Black" race has had this communal effect where, no matter where you go on the planet, a Black person is very likely to relate to on some level with the political struggles of other Black peoples outside of their country, much less within it. And, given that we were never to be intended beneficiaries of these political structures, we are simply more likely to vote for the most viable leftward option by default or- failing to achieve satisfactory outcomes from that- to fall into organizing and activism instead.

There's also the fact that despite our colonization, we didn't get hit with the reservation treatment that Indigenous people suffered and shunned from society altogether. There were enough of us remaining after abolition for a multitude of reasons (funniest one being logistics; read up on how the Portuguese basically kidnapped too many Africans for them to wield physical power over them easily) that it was simply common sense to start trying to achieve some level of assimilation within the American framework.

After all, your original cultural ties were destroyed. Whatever ethnic group you were in, you have no record of. You now all speak English. You're now all reading the white man's Bible. You're now all under the white man's laws. And you've got no hope of going back to Africa because where in Africa would you even go? All you've got in this world is other "Black" people right here. So you all stick together. You start forging ways to scrounge up a dignified existence. You start learning how to protect yourself because whites will literally will burn your town down because it existed too hard for their liking. You fundamentally understand you have fuck all to gain from trying to appeal to these crazy-ass folks. So voting patterns naturally follow and largely become part of a cultural milieu based upon survival and self-preservation.

Other groups like East Asians and non-Black Hispanics don't have that experience. Many believe proximity to whiteness is a valid goal to ascribe to, that the capitalism that continues to fuck over Black people is the best we can do, and thus are more likely to have political splits within American politics. Granted, don't think this means Biden was right and Black folks don't actually have a rich and varied political history and are this monolith. We've always fought with each other over culture. And we've always fought with each other on the best ways to attain freedom and liberation, and we've always been quite amenable to communalism, socialism, communism, and other alternative ways of organization. Some of the tenets of these political systems are actually ingrained in Black culture just as a matter of distributing resources better.

It's just that most of us know to keep it together when we're in front of the rest of y'all.

You live in the US honey. In middle-class suburbia.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-does-progressive-outreach-to-men-look-like-how-can-we-turn-the-tide.1028586/page-22#post-131355018

I am posting the following verbatim on behalf of my wife:

ResetEra lurker here. I'd like to take a moment to point out some of the double standards and hypocrisy I've seen in this thread and others that concern the subject of men.

You have several posters professing that they were either successfully deradicalized or work with children who are exposed to radicalization already. Other posters, instead of considering the insights being offered and possibly folding them into their understanding of the world, have talked over and ignored those offering them instead. Why? I don't know. Personally, since I know much it hurts to be pushed aside and dismissed continually, I try my best to avoid treating others the same way.

Someone shares an example of hateful, online anti-man rhetoric (no, children should not be born in jails and expected to earn their freedom, regardless of their gender). Others then frame it as an irrelevant comment on Letterboxd, a meaningless anecdote, certainly not representative of the viewpoints of any women. Meanwhile, an inflammatory tweet from Mr. Fuentes is used to prove why the majority of men are inherently dangerous and irredeemable (despite earlier evidence to the contrary), as if it had 2 million likes and not 1% of that number.

I'm hearing that women and minorities should not have to regulate our emotions in public spaces, while expecting men to regulate theirs expertly, despite the fact that one cause of the problem we're all facing is that boys are systemically prevented from developing emotional skills as they grow up.

The purpose of this thread was to discuss and find possible solutions, however tenuous, yet half the posters here have entered it to derail it by saying, actually, there are no solutions... even though derailing threads about women is an age-old taboo on Era.

What has gone on in this thread is not progress. As someone who was abused exclusively by women, some of the posts here made me want to die inside.

Incoming ban.

[Mediocre Lager]

Every single time the term Latinx comes up, a bunch of Latinos (sorry, Latinx) people mention how they think it's a dumb term and don't like it. And every single time the yts around tell them to shut up and know their place.

[DocWager]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-does-progressive-outreach-to-men-look-like-how-can-we-turn-the-tide.1028586/page-22

So you disagree that abortion one was misogyny?

Fantastic I'm glad the solution is to let men keep their bigotry but in the left, and just tell women like me I'm lying for identifying reality

Great coalition building men get to be be cruel and women have to watch their tongue

I thought he was non-binary now. And he’s asexual so what’s he afraid of anybody trying to fuck him?

[Potato]

Nepenthe… get over yourself. Black people are not the only ethnic group with an awful history of suffering.

You are just a fucking bitch as racist living IN PRIVILEGE.

I'd like to speak to Nep about the suffering the people of Southern Europe suffered under the Ottomans. But she ain't ready for that conversation about how awful Islamic colonialism was.

[Propagandhim]

The founding fathers were wrong, freedom of speech sucks ass and we need to start being allowed to hold people accountable for being fucking morons.

This should be super traceable and the morons who sent them should be jailed for a while and reformed

[Potato]

Let's try the same campaign again in 2028. Third time's the charm.

Do they have any other monumentally stupid, irritating, female culture warriors left to put up?

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

 Of course they do, it's the fucking DEMOCRATS!!!!

[Ribosome]

remember when reetard mods banned people for calling twitter language like "latinx" dumb? (they ended up locking it because of the overwhelming amount of people saying it was retarded)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/politico-democrats-fall-flat-with-%E2%80%98latinx%E2%80%99-language.523995/

well...

User Banned (Permanent): Dismissive and Inflammatory Commentary Around Inclusive Language; Attacking Other Users; Prior Severe Ban for Dismissing Harmful Effects of Misgendering

I wince every time I hear it and think everyone who perpetuates it is a dipshit. It ranks up there in unforced errors alongside "defund the police" as a slogan.

How does this ban look now given the collapsing support seen this week?

[D3RANG3D]

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-does-progressive-outreach-to-men-look-like-how-can-we-turn-the-tide.1028586/page-22#post-131355018

I am posting the following verbatim on behalf of my wife:

ResetEra lurker here. I'd like to take a moment to point out some of the double standards and hypocrisy I've seen in this thread and others that concern the subject of men.

You have several posters professing that they were either successfully deradicalized or work with children who are exposed to radicalization already. Other posters, instead of considering the insights being offered and possibly folding them into their understanding of the world, have talked over and ignored those offering them instead. Why? I don't know. Personally, since I know much it hurts to be pushed aside and dismissed continually, I try my best to avoid treating others the same way.

Someone shares an example of hateful, online anti-man rhetoric (no, children should not be born in jails and expected to earn their freedom, regardless of their gender). Others then frame it as an irrelevant comment on Letterboxd, a meaningless anecdote, certainly not representative of the viewpoints of any women. Meanwhile, an inflammatory tweet from Mr. Fuentes is used to prove why the majority of men are inherently dangerous and irredeemable (despite earlier evidence to the contrary), as if it had 2 million likes and not 1% of that number.

I'm hearing that women and minorities should not have to regulate our emotions in public spaces, while expecting men to regulate theirs expertly, despite the fact that one cause of the problem we're all facing is that boys are systemically prevented from developing emotional skills as they grow up.

The purpose of this thread was to discuss and find possible solutions, however tenuous, yet half the posters here have entered it to derail it by saying, actually, there are no solutions... even though derailing threads about women is an age-old taboo on Era.

What has gone on in this thread is not progress. As someone who was abused exclusively by women, some of the posts here made me want to die inside.

Incoming ban.

I'm sorry but the level of gaslighting in this post has me checked out for the night.

Genuinely what is the point. This post asks how we can turn the tide, yet the thread has shown why we cannot.

[garamonde]

That men's thread is a classic. Congrats to OP. 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

One last thing I will say is that the now constant framing of the likes of Andrew Tate as a "kind hand" and women as the meanies venting about their experiences with men is deeply concerning.

Real women should be seen but not heard energy in here.