Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Boredfrom]

1732121960[/url]']
I do think FF16 and Veilguard have very similar issues, wokism aside.

They both feel like they are reacting to "no one wants those old and dusty RPGs anymore...we have to do something different to stay relevant!"

When BG3 came out while both of these are mid-development, I am positive many pants were shat. But it was too late to pivot. 

I think there is a sincere attempt in FF16 while DATV seems to try to deliberate avoid everything its fans asked beyond “pronouns and representation”.

[JoeBoy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/christopher-dring-dragon-age-the-veilguard-1st-week-sales-in-europe-were-over-18-lower-than-dragons-dogma-2-and-nearly-21-below-ff-vii-rebirth.1040778/

I believe that the big gaming sites gave this game a high rating just to stick it to the chuds.

Cope: The Thread

It’s even more mid than Andromeda but you have people still on there acting like it’s GOTY.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Thank you Kyuuji for all the work you've put into the thread and all the work you do to raise awareness.

Yes thank you Kyuuji for your unwavering support and hard work for Trans rights year round.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/20th-november-is-transgender-day-of-remembrance.1039284/#post-131898699


Yes, the hard work of… quoting articles on a gaming forum… 

Kyuuji's OP

It went under the radar in the post-US Election mess but this past week has been Trans Awareness Week.

How the fuck did it went under the radar, was it not important at all?

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/washington-post-metaphor-re-fantazio-review-interview-“the-year’s-smartest-game-asks-is-civil-democracy-just-a-fantasy-”.1040814/

Suddenly, Hashino is the smartest video game director.  

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Metaphor is well written, though. Very Grant Morrison like the ending stuff.

I can't read the article and I haven't played Metaphor yet (though I want too). I am interested in reading the review, but isn't Gene Park friends with Moriarty? He's been a collaborator anyway.

I'll give the review a fair shake, but that immediately makes me a little sus.

Aren’t you popping in any thread tangentially related to Colin Moriarty?

[Boredfrom]

Before I click, does Gene Park still defend bigots?

Ask him directly, my dear.

[DavidCroquet]

1732121960[/url]']
I do think FF16 and Veilguard have very similar issues, wokism aside.

They both feel like they are reacting to "no one wants those old and dusty RPGs anymore...we have to do something different to stay relevant!"

When BG3 came out while both of these are mid-development, I am positive many pants were shat. But it was too late to pivot. 

I think there is a sincere attempt in FF16 while DATV seems to try to deliberate avoid everything its fans asked beyond “pronouns and representation”.

I agree. Everything outside of the gameplay in 16 directly feels very tied to it's FF roots...the whole product is a weird mix of market anxiety and faithfulness to a legacy. I like the game, on balance. 

But any time I imagine FF16 with 13 (or even Remake/Rebirth) style core gameplay, it just seems like an obviously better game.

[Uncle]

I do think FF16 and Veilguard have very similar issues, wokism aside.

They both feel like they are reacting to "no one wants those old and dusty RPGs anymore...we have to do something different to stay relevant!"

When BG3 came out while both of these are mid-development, I am positive many pants were shat. But it was too late to pivot. 

square keeps releasing stellar traditional RPGs that are just not named final fantasy, they don't make literally all of the money but they're all broadly successful

bravely defaults, octopaths, most recently dragon quest 3 remake

persona are always turn-based massive successes, metaphor continues that

mainline pokemon games continue to be turn-based

there's never been any evidence that anything wildly different needed to be done

[wizardora]

Plagiarise is in the discords dming the young and nubile. I would bet my cunting house on it. The wife is piping off some other sort.

Sadly (for you) you owe me a house:

- Alice
- Nepenthe
- ????
- deleted_user~~~
- Adam
- ???
- deimosmasque
- ???
- Jawmuncher
- ???
- ???
- spineduke
- b-dubs
- Hecht
- ???

So really...the loser only mostly talks to other mods.

Are those your pubes?

1) No, I keep them nice and trim.
2) Worse; plagiarize's hair.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/washington-post-metaphor-re-fantazio-review-interview-“the-year’s-smartest-game-asks-is-civil-democracy-just-a-fantasy-”.1040814/

I can't read the article and I haven't played Metaphor yet (though I want too). I am interested in reading the review, but isn't Gene Park friends with Moriarty? He's been a collaborator anyway.

I'll give the review a fair shake, but that immediately makes me a little sus.

Before I click, does Gene Park still defend bigots?

Where's Jeff to enlighten people about Gene "MAGA4LIFE" Park?!?

[DavidCroquet]

Before I click, does Gene Park still defend bigots?

Ask him directly, my dear.

I enjoyed his edit.

Before I click, does Gene Park still defend bigots?

can't read the article and I haven't played Metaphor yet (though I want too). I am interested in reading the review, but isn't Gene Park friends with Moriarty? He's been a collaborator anyway.

I'll give the review a fair shake, but that immediately makes me a little sus.

He's actively defended him on this very site.

"Before I hear any arguments, does this person know the bad people? Btw that is a rhetorical and I already know the answer and I've already made up my mind."

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/white-house-in-internal-message-to-lawmakers-says-democrats-in-congress-who-oppose-weapons-to-israel-are-aiding-hamas.1040844/

[HaughtyFrank]

My favorite game to play is seeing if a person has a political take completely opposed to the franchise or character they have in their avatar.

"We should not tear down the system."

"My brother in Christ, you have a Clive Rosfield avatar."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-so-so-tired-of-having-to-share-media-with-absolute-idiots.1040631/#post-131906028

Yeah, anti-intellectualism is pretty rampant right now.

Can't post enough Spidermen pointing emotes here

[benji]

What kind of weirdo thinks you have to like the ideological/philosophical/moral/etc. message of something to like the work?

[books]

Reading the Polygom article comments to DAV not being nominated in the GOTY category is like being in bizarro world. They still love it and are still defending it. It's like you must say its great to stay an ally.

[DavidCroquet]

Let's hop over to Valkaria in the Spin Room.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/christopher-dring-dragon-age-the-veilguard-1st-week-sales-in-europe-were-over-18-lower-than-dragons-dogma-2-and-nearly-21-below-ff-vii-rebirth.1040778/page-5#post-131909742

Okay can someone clarify…

The tweet says 7th best selling game in October. It was out for all of one day of October.

He then compares the first week sales with Rebirth and DD2.

Are these two different sets of data, or is he comparing 1 day of Dragon Age vs 1 week of Rebirth/DD2?

[Besticus Maximus]

What kind of weirdo thinks you have to like the ideological/philosophical/moral/etc. message of something to like the work?

They call themselves Christians, on account of one Christus, who was put to death by Pilate in the reign of Tiberius

[Boredfrom]

It's hard to take anything regarding democracy seriously that's published in The Washington Post.

Is a video game review…

[Boredfrom]

Yeah throwing away that messaging just for an anime twist aha did we trick you moment kinda soured me a bunch. Not to mention the line from the king about why he needed your name is beyond fucked and completely throws away any positive message in the game imo

 

The entire game is build in those two twists. 

The game is not about democracy perse, you assholes.

[Averon]

Kinsei trying to foment an outrage a mob against Gene Park

[wizardora]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/high-court-rules-calling-a-man-bald-is-sex-related-harassment.1040436/

Good news for kyuuji

Kyuuji's fucktoy Uzzy is in that thread being all smug. Must be painful for poor Kyuuji

Which is interesting as Kyuuji has more hair than Uzzy.....

[Uncle]

My favorite game to play is seeing if a person has a political take completely opposed to the franchise or character they have in their avatar.

"We should not tear down the system."

"My brother in Christ, you have a Clive Rosfield avatar."

https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-so-so-tired-of-having-to-share-media-with-absolute-idiots.1040631/#post-131906028

Yeah, anti-intellectualism is pretty rampant right now.

Can't post enough Spidermen pointing emotes here

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/washington-post-metaphor-re-fantazio-review-interview-%E2%80%9Cthe-year%E2%80%99s-smartest-game-asks-is-civil-democracy-just-a-fantasy-%E2%80%9D.1040814/#post-131908950

Yep, it's funny having him talk up the themes of this game when he works for someone who would probably call it 'woke'.

Homie is re-enacting "Yet you participate in society" live. 

[Boredfrom]

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“Is beyond fucked that the King asks the game player to help the Prince in saving the Kingdom. ME A FORCE OF CHANGE?!”  

The game explains what is about with its own name.  

Is a fantasy story, not a perfect representation of the world or our own problems, but the point is that can give you strength or make you question stuff.

[Jansen]

Thank you Kyuuji for all the work you've put into the thread and all the work you do to raise awareness.

Yes thank you Kyuuji for your unwavering support and hard work for Trans rights year round.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/20th-november-is-transgender-day-of-remembrance.1039284/#post-131898699


Yes, the hard work of… quoting articles on a gaming forum… 

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This is what genocide looks like in real time

[Boredfrom]

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It completely sidesteps the entire "you're pretending to be the prince to attract support" ruse and the conflicts it sets up. Asking if it's right to perform such a deception, whether it would be better for Will to be king rather than the prince, since he actually worked to get elected over the prince simply being "the rightful heir" (the idea of which most of your party is motivated by pre-reveal), whether handing the crown over to a princeling who's been in a coma for ages and never actually lead anything is actually proper...

But that conflict was never set up, it was questioned by the characters but everyone (including the main character) had a set goal about the Prince.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

 ...and then it tries to thread that needle by revealing that you're essentially a magical astral projection of the prince himself and thus both The Popular Democratic Candidate and The Rightful Royal Heir To The Monarchy at once, so the entire democratic project was essentially a 5D chess play by the King to get his issue and royal house democratically elected back into absolute monarchical power with all other opposing factions dead and discredited in a magically mandated purge.

 

The king is set up as a pathetic and sad figure whose mistakes made the antagonists gain more power, not a chess player.  The game also ends with the Royal bloodline deterrent gone, used for a desperate bet from a broken sad man that couldn’t even live by his own ideals.

[benji]

It's just exhausting.

I grew up reading, watching, playing, listening to all these beautiful stories about selflessness, heroism with characters that are either models of understanding and tolerance or warnings against the rise of fascism and hatred.

And yet now I can't talk about any of these things online without an absolute idiot telling me that these very evident messages are not really there and that I'm reading too much into it.

 Or complete asshats telling me how "non political" the thing was until now because the franchise added a black woman or some shit...

And THEN you can't even search for a thing you like without the angry YouTube angry men with zero media literacy calling everything shit based on the most stupid reads possible and pushing buzzwords and overly simplified jabs at basic storytelling that idiots will repeat non-stop to appear intelligent.

All these while the same dipshits are turning the fucking world we live in in the exact oppressive, hateful society these stories warned us about.

God, I am so tired.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-so-so-tired-of-having-to-share-media-with-absolute-idiots.1040631/#post-131898954

What kind of weirdo thinks you have to like the ideological/philosophical/moral/etc. message of something to like the work?

Actually, this is connected. If you're telling me someone can't understand and/or like a work unless they agree with it, then yeah, I'm going to suspect you're reading your own nonsense into them. Especially if you prove it by telling me Star Wars and Marvel shit is "beautiful stories about selflessness" and contains "characters that are either models of understanding and tolerance or warnings against the rise of fascism and hatred." Both of which are hilariously "stupid" "overly simplistic" readings of Star Wars or Marvel and I would argue don't actually apply to either.

It's incredibly simple to complicate these descriptions with basic Star Wars and Marvel examples. I'll do three for fun:
1. Anakin acts selflessly by joining the Dark Side, he's seeking to save Padme; the Jedi act without understanding and are intolerant by backing the Clone War (and supporting the Republic's corrupt status quo), giving cause to Anakin's misgivings.
2. Peter doesn't act selflessly and understanding by becoming Spider-Man, he's disregarding Aunt May's wishes after causing the death of her husband.
3. Tony doesn't act selflessly, understanding or tolerant; he uses his technology in attempts for control and disregards his teammates both causing Ultron and breaking up the Avengers.

Pretty sus that you're worshipping such characters and holding them up as exemplars if you ask me. God (another sus character imo), I am so tired.

[Boredfrom]

Ah yes, this year's smartest game the one where a majority of it's themes and messages have been a part of children's programing since Mr Rodgers. Don't get me wrong the messages are good and important but god damn that's eyerolling.

And yet you guys don’t seem to grasp them at all. 

Even you are operating in the sense of “give me solutions game!!!!”  when per of the message is that is a little foolish to expect that from fantasy story.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/christopher-dring-dragon-age-the-veilguard-1st-week-sales-in-europe-were-over-18-lower-than-dragons-dogma-2-and-nearly-21-below-ff-vii-rebirth.1040778/page-6#post-131911314

im actually crying at "fancy colors" 😂😭

My most charitable read is that it's a dumb criticism. My less charitable read is that it's implying something else

Ooh, ooh, can I try!? Maybe they are saying the game is artistically garish and unpleasant to look at? 

Anyone...? 

No...? 

*sigh* You're right, it's probably a hate speech dogwhistle. 

[Uncle]

well, era?

where's the "wtf I love trump now" posts

[Vertigo]

It's just exhausting.

I grew up reading, watching, playing, listening to all these beautiful stories about selflessness, heroism with characters that are either models of understanding and tolerance or warnings against the rise of fascism and hatred.

And yet now I can't talk about any of these things online without an absolute idiot telling me that these very evident messages are not really there and that I'm reading too much into it. Or complete asshats telling me how "non political" the thing was until now because the franchise added a black woman or some shit...

And THEN you can't even search for a thing you like without the angry YouTube angry men with zero media literacy calling everything shit based on the most stupid reads possible and pushing buzzwords and overly simplified jabs at basic storytelling that idiots will repeat non-stop to appear intelligent.

All these while the same dipshits are turning the fucking world we live in in the exact oppressive, hateful society these stories warned us about.

God, I am so tired.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-so-so-tired-of-having-to-share-media-with-absolute-idiots.1040631/#post-131898954

 

He’s upset about people not liking MCU and Star Wars anymore

Unlike Zeo, fj083 is a true believer, absolute zealot. Never forget he once said that people not liking MCU and Star Wars or them getting bad reviews tanks his mental health.

People not liking cape movies. means he loses his mind.

I mean good god.