Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[benji]

What the fuck do they even have to hide? "Someone at work today said they like Stellar Blade "

Stop demanding they put themselves in danger. (Of being mocked.)

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Is it possible to threadban people who just post once to gain access to hidden posts? It feels gross. 

[Snoopy]

They’re just men. Sensitive men who want to be together. Sensitive men who want to share their feelings and call each other Britney. It’s not a crime.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-pay-the-dinner-when-you-go-on-a-date.915219/page-2?post=125179356#post-125179356

Wait whaaaaat I thought going Dutch was splitting?! Yeah, I mostly went dutch when I was dating, and had no issues.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-ya%E2%80%99ll-seen-this-%E2%80%9Chawk-tuah%E2%80%9D-meme.909075/page-3?post=124902573#post-124902573

Yup. She should lose her teaching job because she's a MAGA chud, not because she made a sex joke.

  User Banned (3 Days): Concern Trolling

Ok, this ban makes no sense, even moreso than usual for era.

Concern trolling…about what??? Against whom?

[bork]

you don't want to die on the hill of ephebophiliah, ebephilia, and pedophilia. It's not worth it.

Guy let fame go to his head and is a sex pest degenerate. Wouldn't call him a pedo but he had no qualms with ruining his own family.

Oh yeah im just saying I dont think calling a person who messaged a 17 year old is a literal pedo. 

But yeah a sex pest degenerate for sure

[BIONIC]

Burqa thread hidden garbage:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

I don't think it makes sense to armchair analyze game sales, budgets and success, especially relative to one another. While you can look at things like team sizes, dev time, estimated sales, etc. the reality its that Bloodborne, Horizon and Stellar Blade all have different development and release circumstances that inform expectations and what qualifies as a success. Deciding that one game "wins" by some arbitrary metric is just a pointless exercise because we simply don't have all the data, and it's even dumber to then stretch that out into a narrative about whether sex does or doesn't sell.

It's pretty clear to me that anyone who is looking at Stellar Blade and saying the game sold well explicitly because of its character design is being disingenuous, though. It's a solid Souls-adjacent action game wth a weak narrative, plus some questionable character design choices, plus a new franchise from relatively unknown developer... it seems like it did about in line with what you would expect, about in line with something like Lies of P. The character design may be responsible for some initial interest from certain audiences, but I mean, Elden Ring is literally right there. That game mostly has characters that don't fit into conventionally sexy designs, and it sold magnitudes more than Stellar Blade. By that logic I guess sex actually doesn't sell?

So yeah, basically that's just a dead end to argue I think. It's far more interesting to focus on the game content. How is it depicting both women as well as men? What are the gender roles at play? Are these characters depicted in a way that's positive, affirming and that challenges negative stereotypes, or in ways that are harmful and regressive? Are there any underlying ideologies being expressed or discussed by the game? What do the characters say about the developers and about players?

I think you can look at numerous threads across Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit and even Resetera and find that numerous people stated their intent to purchase this game based off of the character's design. I would say it's reasonable to assume that the characters design influenced purchasers, which was clearly not the case for something like Elden Ring. To say "sex doesn't sell?" based off of a rather contrived defense is far more disingenuous than to say that the game sold some significant amount of copies, or was talked about more, or was seen due to algorithms in Social Media because of sex. Can I get a definitive count on the number of copies sold due to, in any amount, the exaggerated physical features of the character? Nope, of course not. Can we make educated guesses and state that it was a factor in purchasing for some amount of people? Absolutely. And I don't think it's a stretch. Sex games sell on Steam and even the Nintendo Switch. They sell a lot. No one is being shamed for this - sex is great. However, in this situation, it's being used to sell to one demographic while alienating and misrepresenting another. Hell, whether we know the purchasers intent is known is irrelevant - we do know the creators intent.

And to your list of questions: all of them can be answered the same way. The characters are clearly meant to have exaggerated features typically associated with people assigned female at birth. Historically, men have used this representation of women to create fantasies that fulfill desires rooted in misogyny. The character’s anatomical features were designed and meant to be used for marketing as much as the gameplay was. For that reason, I think it's fair to judge the game on its appearance. Visuals are a significant part of every game, and if I feel a character is depicted for reasons meant to gratify someone else sexually, or propagates unfair stereotypes, then I don't like it. That's my opinion, yes, but I wouldn't say that gameplay is any more of a valuable aspect. Replace gender with race. If a character had exaggerated racial features (cough cough Barrett), and it was used to sell the game, what would we say? Would we say "well are they a strong character?" No, the stereotypes and harmful representation overrides that. With gender it's the same. With any discrimination it's the same.

I do take umbrage with saying "how does it depict men AND women", when we live in a patriarchal society. The developers and primary demographic for this game, it's safe to assume, are people with privilege. How they depict men is nowhere near as helpful or harmful as how they depict women. Further, the actions of the developer towards some subset of employees was targeted due to gender. I think making it a "both sides" issue really is a non-sequitur.

All aspects of a game are relevant to its very existence. It's like saying "don't judge a painting based off of its use of the color blue, judge it based on all the other colors". Well, it wouldn't be *that painting* without the color blue. Video games *are art*, and all art is both the sum of its parts and more than the sum of its parts. You can show great technique in one area, while lacking in others. You can make a great painting from a technical standpoint, but if it's a "woman with jiggly parts", I think people are allowed to form opinions around that, and those opinions aren't contradicted by the quality of technique or use of paint or whatever.

Okay, I don't know what happened here but I feel like my post may have been colossally misinterpreted.


I don't want to discount that character design is important in a game's sales and success. Obviously it is. What I'm saying is people boiling the game's success (or failure) down to that alone isn't very practical or compelling. For every person who decides they want to hitch their wagon to the game because there's a pretty anime sexy lady, there's plenty of other people who look at it and go "not for me dawg". We don't have those numbers or know how many people react that way to the game, or how that converted directly into sales, so we're dealing purely with anecdotes and vibes.

My thing about using Elden Ring wasn't me seriously making that claim, it was pointing out the absurdity of the logic to say that sex appeal (or lack thereof) is primarily responsible for sales of a game in this category. When talking about the business side, directly comparing Stellar Blade to porn games on Steam isn't really valid in my view, because they are simply not the same product category or market, even if some of the audience may overlap. From a sociological and media studies perspective obviously that's a different story.


You don't need to preach to me about this. I think Stellar Blade's characters and depictions of women suck ass and it was an immediate turn-off for me. I think people who are championing the game as some sort of right-wing culture war victory are idiots and scumbags. I think the developer also sucks and I'm disappointed Sony chose to promote this specific game so heavily.


Except it's not a non-sequitur? You don't need to tell me about the patriarchy, I've been an open feminist since my late teens, read and studied plenty of it in uni almost two decades ago and continue to hold those views well past that point. As a woman, please do not assume that I'm somehow minimizing the experiences of women through a passing mention of how men are also negatively affected by patriarchal society and regressive, limited gender roles - because they are. That's not "both sidesing", that's just facts. (Not to mention how patriarchy and the binary gender system hurts non-binary people too).

Patriarchy is obviously massively disproportionately worse for women, that's why it's called patriarchy, but I don't see how me mentioning that the way a piece of media depicts men is also relevant to its depiction of women is problematic to you. Gender is a spectrum where various aspects of identity and expression exist in relation to one another. Feminism and social studies are concerned chiefly with systems of power and the causes and effects of them, and understanding how a piece of media conceptualizes men is useful for how it conceptualizes women, as well as everyone in between and outside that as well.

User banned (permanent): Antagonizing another member over multiple posts in a sensitive thread. Account in junior phase.

You're being exceptionally defensive for someone who apparently agrees with these things, and there's really no call for this level of hostility. Stating your gender and stance on feminism doesn't change the words that you used in your post, or how an audience will receive them. Saying "please don't say this to me" is a pretty baseless method of implying that you are impervious to internalized misogyny or misunderstandings around cultural issue, which no one is. I don't care about your identity or history - that's not what your post is about, and it's about as relevant as my identity and history. You have a right to your opinion, and I responded to it. I don't know anything about you, but I felt your post could easily be interpreted as misdirecting from the relevant aspects of this conversation, and I responded to it. Someone who reads your post won't say "oh well they have years of experience with feminism and still hold those ideals".

You absolutely did both-sides things and argue that we're focusing too much on the sexualization of the characters, when that's the central part of the discourse around the game right now, for a variety of reasons. No one is boiling down the success or failure of a game to the sexualization - that's a highly reductionist take on this conversation and diminishes the importance of the criticism being levied against it. We're focusing on that topic because it's the most relevant aspect to this situation, and hell, I'd say the side which is critical of the game would have every right to make it all about that topic. You're still both-sidesing - you keep implying that both parties are arguing based on a fallacious understanding of the key topics, which I think is highly unfair. Saying "well we don't definitively know the actual impact on sales so we shouldn't argue one way or another" is a non-sequitur. You're detracting from highly relevant points and reducing them because you don't see their importance. Others can find these things more important than you, and I explained why. I don't mean this passive-aggressively, but I think you *do* need to be told these things. See why these things are important to others, and let them talk about it. If you don't want to engage in that side of the conversation, then don't. And certainly don't argue against the people who are defending the ideas that you claim to champion, which is what your original post was doing.

You did make that claim about Eldin Ring. It's literally what you wrote. FromSofware's titles have a completely different context around them and make no attempt to market using exaggerated sexualization of women. That argument only makes sense if you think the other party is arguing that *all games are sold based on sexualization*, which, again, no one is arguing. That's a strawman, and again, a nonsequitur. Comparing a game which markets heavily based on sexuality to other games which market based on sexuality is meant to emphasize that, yes, sex does sell. Using sex as a marketing tactic does work, and is being used in this context. Saying "well, Eldin Ring is successful without sex" is completely irrelevant.

Just want to say thanks to @Morrigan, @Naiad and @PallasKitten for the support. I was really worried I did something wrong or stepped onto a landmine I had no idea was there.

However, I'm bowing out for the foreseeable future because it is clear this thread and forum is not actually a safe environment, nor do I want to have to feel like every comment comes with the caveat that I have to defend myself from unwarranted attacks, down-talking and demands I justify myself. So I guess if the goal of that person was to get me to stop posting, congratulations, mission accomplished.

While I don't agree with giving the asshat the satisfaction of feeling like he was right in his behavior to mistreat you in the way that he did, I still completely understand the mental toll and anxiety that comes with feeling like you're walking on eggshells every time that you post.

I will be sad to see you leave feeling this way, but mental health is important and sometimes people have to do what is best for them, not for everyone else. You didn't do anything wrong.

I've been challenged all my life so I can stomach it to some extent, however, I'm not going to judge another woman for not being able to. It's rough. It's bullshit. It's unfair. It's mentally exhausting. People should fucking behave better and they don't.

Take care of yourself.

You did nothing wrong at all, and I have no idea why that person seemingly came in out of nowhere swinging at you for no obvious reason. I definitely understand just not wanting to deal with that and bowing out. I'd be lying if I said I didn't sometimes feel the same way you do on various online communities, and it absolutely sucks that has to be the case so often.

Wishing you the best.

I've appreciated your contributions to the thread and your insight has been invaluable. I don't get why some men feel comfortable arguing on things like this (without the lived experience of sexism and oversexualisation) with such misplaced intensity and hostility and some of us men have kinda ruined the point of this space, sadly. Even if this forum is predominantly a male majority, it's important to have a space for women to be listened to, validated, discuss and even debate amongst themselves. So I totally understand you bowing out but you'll be always welcome to come back! 🙏🏾

I want to chime in and say that I don't think you did anything wrong and they were out of line to attack you. This needs to be a space for discussion and you getting burned out is a failure on us as a forum. I like your posts and I'm sorry you have to step away and like people have said your mental health is first priority. I can just click ignore normal threads but it's not fair when this one is supposed to be special and you don't feel safe here. Anyway, I don't have any quick or good answers, just sending positive vibes your way

Good luck @coffeecat! Hope you find somewhere safe from people like that, you did nothing wrong.

Yeah, this place isn't one. Not anymore at least.

It's not okay that this person was able to just come in, attack you and dip out without any consequences.

[Nintex]

Splitting the $100 bill

"Can I get you anything else?"   

"No thank you, it was lovely, do you have the check for us please?"  

"Certainly sir, that'll be $100 please."  

Person 1: $50
Person 2: $50

Person 2: "Thanks man, here's $20 as a tip give my compliments to the chef"  

Thank you sir have a great day  


Going Dutch on the €100 bill

*sit at the table with an empty glass for 30 minutes*

Person 2: "Let's ask for the check"   

*waitress completely ignores their table*

Person 1 (walks to the bar): "Excuse me, can we pay?"

"So anyway Linda I hate it when customers come up to our bar and can't see we're busy... what do you want? sure, I'll be right over sir"  

*45 minutes later*

"That'll be €100 please"  

*Person 1 quickly snatches all the free mints*

Person 1: €39,28 ("I didn't order a dessert")
Person 2: €50,72 ("Wait, you had 3 drinks? I only had 2 I think")
Person 3: €4,83 *he still owed person 1 gas money from the other day so he quickly send him a Tikkie to collect the debt*

"I'll be back in a sec"  

*10 minutes later*

"Cash or PIN? We don't accept Credit Cards, €100, €200 or €500 banknotes also I'm low on change"  

"Excuse me, I thought this came with a free drink?"

"No sir"  

"Are you sure I had 3 drinks?"

"Yes I literally counted them, should I get the bottles out of the trash can?"  

"*sigh* I'll PIN the remaining €5,17"

*grabs the wrong card*

"WE DON'T ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS!!!!"  

*bleeeeeep*

"Sorry, I cancelled because I forgot the tip, make it €6"

"THANK YOU SIR HOW KIND OF YOU"   

Person 1: "Can I see that receipt again?"

*stares at the receipt for 5 minutes*

Person 1: "Ok thanks"
Person 2: "Guess we won't have to do the dishes this time" 

[BIONIC]

Bonus hidden burqa garbage:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-408?post=125122560#post-125122560

Sorry if this is inappropriate.

Don't play Pokémon Masters anymore due how it affected me (I have an addictive personality) but follow it because I like the costumes and character fluff. Today they released a new costume for Gardenia, one of my favourite Pokémon characters and [which I admit I had a massive crush on as a kid along with Cynthia] and I love it:

[BIONIC]

Era hasn't been a safe space for a long time now, and there isn't a safe space here to bring that up without warnings about "Moderation Discussion". Seen far too many good people Get Got or slip away.

I'll still be here in the thread to talk the talk at times, but it's just always with the foreknowledge these days that there's indignant children peeking in through a window and searchtower lights focused at all times.

[If you've tried to subtly post just to see what I've posted here, fuck right off.]

[Potato]

🐈‍⬛ our PTSD is so bad lately and I hate it 🥺🥺. Everything reminds me of the bad man and none of us can see kissing at all without flashbacks and going into flight even if it's just in tv shows or games and even if it's just on the cheek or forehead. I hope he dies

(from famiboard)

Famiboard mods are just as terrible as Reeee mods. They won't ban him.

[Boredfrom]

>Mildly disagreeing.

coffeeccat: THEY ATTACKING ME!

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-408?post=125162904#post-125162904

User banned (1 week): drive-by in a sensitive thread

Don't mind me, just want to read everything the thread has to offer.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-98?post=125180937#post-12518093

Abortions are actually a major issue for all demographics. We've seen a palpable effect from it after Roe vs. Wade was overturned.

At the very least, it doesn't like people view Biden as too "left". His major supporters are actually older and value stable centrism. He's unpopular with the youth, who are all more over the place.

Here's a list of the most important issues as of May 2024.

4% of people say abortion is the most important issue. You know what's more than three TIMES as likely to be the most important thing than that? High cost of living and inflation. And let me tell you, not including food and energy prices in your inflation metrics will not save you. High cost of living / inflation is a key issue. Abortion is not. Honestly, Biden's poor leadership is a bigger issue than abortion, going by these numbers.

This needs to be addressed for what it is. Hyperventilating about Roe v. Wade and trans rights need to take a backseat to these topics if Democrats want, period.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-98?post=125181075#post-125181075

What the hell is this nonsense. I'm glad that I didn't take your first post seriously enough to answer after this.

Listen, facts and figures aren't "nonsense." Thinking that objective reality is "nonsense" is why you're at serious risk of losing in 2024, just like you lost in 2016. People have bills to pay. That's more important than your abortions and your pronouns. Period. End of discussion.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-98?post=125181243#post-125181243

Okay, you're not to be taken seriously. Got it.

You talk from a seat of privilege trying to mansplain to a woman that abortion and women's rights aren't important. Okay, my guy.

Appealing to your woman-ness is not an argument. You being a woman does not make the numbers go away. The world does not revolve around your vagina.

[Nintex]

Just caught up to what happened and I'm really sorry to see what happened to you coffeecat. Always do what's best for your comfort and blocks hostility, especially when it's so undeserved, but you didn't deserve any of that. I'm really concerned about the uptick in people coming in to continue the fight to squash any dissenting opinions.

This thread literally exists so that users can have a space to discuss sexism and misogyny with more barriers to entry to avoid the usual instances of people trying to attack, ridicule and/or silence any conversation. It was really nice to have a space to voice things without snarky "I'll be there day one" the moment you post things or whining about not letting people enjoy content that antagonizes and demeans others.

I hope there are other ways we can still talk and think that all of your contributions are too valuable and too much of a reprieve to lose, I wish there was more that can be done.

[Nintex]

Appealing to your woman-ness is not an argument. You being a woman does not make the numbers go away. The world does not revolve around your vagina.

[Chudder Barbarity]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-98?post=125180937#post-12518093

Abortions are actually a major issue for all demographics. We've seen a palpable effect from it after Roe vs. Wade was overturned.

At the very least, it doesn't like people view Biden as too "left". His major supporters are actually older and value stable centrism. He's unpopular with the youth, who are all more over the place.

Here's a list of the most important issues as of May 2024.

4% of people say abortion is the most important issue. You know what's more than three TIMES as likely to be the most important thing than that? High cost of living and inflation. And let me tell you, not including food and energy prices in your inflation metrics will not save you. High cost of living / inflation is a key issue. Abortion is not. Honestly, Biden's poor leadership is a bigger issue than abortion, going by these numbers.

This needs to be addressed for what it is. Hyperventilating about Roe v. Wade and trans rights need to take a backseat to these topics if Democrats want, period.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-98?post=125181075#post-125181075

What the hell is this nonsense. I'm glad that I didn't take your first post seriously enough to answer after this.

Listen, facts and figures aren't "nonsense." Thinking that objective reality is "nonsense" is why you're at serious risk of losing in 2024, just like you lost in 2016. People have bills to pay. That's more important than your abortions and your pronouns. Period. End of discussion.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-98?post=125181243#post-125181243

Okay, you're not to be taken seriously. Got it.

You talk from a seat of privilege trying to mansplain to a woman that abortion and women's rights aren't important. Okay, my guy.

Appealing to your woman-ness is not an argument. You being a woman does not make the numbers go away. The world does not revolve around your vagina.

An actual sane person?
Permaban in 3... 2...

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-99?post=125181534#post-125181534

I love it how my existence on the internet drives men like him into a frenzy just because I exist with an opinion.

Nobody cares about your opinion. Your vagina monologues are valueless.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-98?post=125181243#post-125181243

User Banned (Permanent): Misogynistic nonsense. Account in junior status.

[D3RANG3D]

[Boredfrom]

An actual sane person?

I dunno, he is implying that Trump is going to be better in economy than Biden (debatable).

Hyperventilating about Roe v. Wade and trans rights need to take a backseat to these topics if Democrats want, period.

One is not like another, being fair. Like not at all.

[Nintex]

The bad man is gone just stick your head in the sand in your safe space again.

Anyway Trump caught the bone again does he know what to do with it? Doubtful.

[Boredfrom]

Anyone have good recommendations for games on Steam with a female protagonist? Steam keeps recommending me hentai games... >8(

(Most of them will not question this because they are also into hentai games).

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Bonus hidden burqa garbage:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-408?post=125122560#post-125122560

Sorry if this is inappropriate.

Don't play Pokémon Masters anymore due how it affected me (I have an addictive personality) but follow it because I like the costumes and character fluff. Today they released a new costume for Gardenia, one of my favourite Pokémon characters and [which I admit I had a massive crush on as a kid along with Cynthia] and I love it:

Going to need you to post the hidden coffeecat post. 

[Boredfrom]

I love how weirdos like TwoHearts and TheEchoesOfAPervert are never called out.

TwoHearts is at least an obvious Troll, but Echoes is wired in a way that should rise some concerns:

“I hate that female characters are treated like virtual dolls… anyway, Pokemon Master released a new costume for my childhood’s crush.”

[Potato]

Splitting the $100 bill

"Can I get you anything else?"   

"No thank you, it was lovely, do you have the check for us please?"  

"Certainly sir, that'll be $100 please."  

Person 1: $50
Person 2: $50

Person 2: "Thanks man, here's $20 as a tip give my compliments to the chef"  

Thank you sir have a great day  


Going Dutch on the €100 bill

*sit at the table with an empty glass for 30 minutes*

Person 2: "Let's ask for the check"   

*waitress completely ignores their table*

Person 1 (walks to the bar): "Excuse me, can we pay?"

"So anyway Linda I hate it when customers come up to our bar and can't see we're busy... what do you want? sure, I'll be right over sir"  

*45 minutes later*

"That'll be €100 please"  

*Person 1 quickly snatches all the free mints*

Person 1: €39,28 ("I didn't order a dessert")
Person 2: €50,72 ("Wait, you had 3 drinks? I only had 2 I think")
Person 3: €4,83 *he still owed person 1 gas money from the other day so he quickly send him a Tikkie to collect the debt*

"I'll be back in a sec"  

*10 minutes later*

"Cash or PIN? We don't accept Credit Cards, €100, €200 or €500 banknotes also I'm low on change"  

"Excuse me, I thought this came with a free drink?"

"No sir"  

"Are you sure I had 3 drinks?"

"Yes I literally counted them, should I get the bottles out of the trash can?"  

"*sigh* I'll PIN the remaining €5,17"

*grabs the wrong card*

"WE DON'T ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS!!!!"  

*bleeeeeep*

"Sorry, I cancelled because I forgot the tip, make it €6"

"THANK YOU SIR HOW KIND OF YOU"   

Person 1: "Can I see that receipt again?"

*stares at the receipt for 5 minutes*

Person 1: "Ok thanks"
Person 2: "Guess we won't have to do the dishes this time" 

...and Southern Europeans have arguments to the point of embarrassment over who is going to pay the whole bill!

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I love how weirdos like TwoHearts and TheEchoesOfAPervert are never called out.

TwoHearts is at least an obvious Troll, but Echoes is wired in a way that should rise some concerns:

“I hate that female characters are treated like virtual dolls… anyway, Pokemon Master released a new costume for my childhood’s crush.”

you see Echoes is a lesbian though so it's fine. Anyone who enjoys 2B or Eve need only say they are a transbian and the male gaze will be forgiven. 

[Potato]

>Mildly disagreeing.

coffeeccat: THEY ATTACKING ME!

Reeeseta moderation 

[Potato]

Anyone have good recommendations for games on Steam with a female protagonist? Steam keeps recommending me hentai games... >8(

(Most of them will not question this because they are also into hentai games).

I don't get recommended hentai games on steam. What am I doing right?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-99?post=125182968#post-125182968

Basically he's selling the idea of going back to 2019, and I bet a lot of people would love to go back to 2019

I don't. I made less money during 2019, lol.

                  Fuck you, got mine.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/2024-u-s-election-debate-1-president-biden-vs-trump-cnn-june-27th-at-9-pm-et-6-pm-pt.913638/page-99?post=125183013#post-125183013

It's very shocking that people still believe he might be replaced. He isn't. It's not happening. It's Biden or bust.

Even if he was, and the DNC picked his replacement what makes you think their choice wouldn't be actively worse than Biden, or someone less electable? Never forget that the DNC actively conspired to make Hillary the candidate in 2016 over Sanders, and look at where that got us.

[PogiJones]

I'm really sorry to see what happened to you coffeecat.

WHAT happened to you? Someone presented counterpoints to your claims?  Wow, hopefully your therapist can help you recover.