Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Propagandhim]

The Cass Report is not even an anti-trans document.  All it's saying is the current model of gender identity services for children and young people in England is not sustainable or sufficiently robust to provide the highest standards of care to trans kids.   There's inconsistent assessment processes, and lack of consensus on the appropriate clinical approach. They're not even suggesting a ban of hormone prescriptions, they're saying there needs to be a strengthening of clinical governance around hormone prescribing. Can these fuckers take ANY criticism at all?

Because a higher standard will reduce the number the cases and the more standardized clinical approach will kill some loopholes. They wanted that the apparatus had a looser approach rather than being scrutinized and getting standards, because they hate TransMedicalists always warning them that this was going to happen.

That's really what it comes down to.  It's not about proper protocols and standards for healthcare.  It's about the strength of a movement.  About affirming an identity through medicine.  This is just insane.

[Potato]

Where do they find these totally unhinged posters?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-my-colleague-taking-unreasonable-leave.841050/

So, I work in a finance role and this week is key for us finalising our forecast and presenting to the CFO and CEO.

The equivalent in my team has a very system based role that he manages, completely remote.

He is actually working abroad at the moment visiting his sister while working at her house. Today my manager informs our team, that our colleague won't be working the remainder of the week as his sisters mother in law has been given taken ill in hospital. To me this is a bullshit excuse, but let me know if I am being too harsh.

The team is me, my manager and this guy

He only needs to do 2 hours work to not fuck us, he could do both

Solidarity with the workers!

[Potato]

The Cass review is a four year independent review commissioned by the NHS and undertaken by a renowned paediatrician. It's not just politically difficult, given the current climate, for a politician to dismiss this report. It is also something that most politicians have no standing to do. Few politicians are scientifically literate, and fewer still are scientists or medics with the kind of reputation that would enable them to criticise this review without getting eaten alive.

None of this is to excuse Labour's increasingly pathetic handling of trans politics under Starmer and Streeting. But I do think it's exceptionally difficult for anyone to challenge this report in the short term, which explains why other groups, e.g. Mermaids/Stonewall have welcomed the report to varying extents. Even in an ideal world the best you could hope for is that, following a general election, a new government commissions a new review. There's no quick fix, I don't think.

It almost sounds like TransKids need for blockers is justified by flimsy reasons and a new government would need to manipulate the results to not get the same conclusions.

We don't believe the review. The only solution of for a new government to commission a new review with a preconceived conclusion that agrees with our pseudo-religious position!!

[AldusMoneyPenny]

Where do they find these totally unhinged posters?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-my-colleague-taking-unreasonable-leave.841050/

So, I work in a finance role and this week is key for us finalising our forecast and presenting to the CFO and CEO.

The equivalent in my team has a very system based role that he manages, completely remote.

He is actually working abroad at the moment visiting his sister while working at her house. Today my manager informs our team, that our colleague won't be working the remainder of the week as his sisters mother in law has been given taken ill in hospital. To me this is a bullshit excuse, but let me know if I am being too harsh.

The team is me, my manager and this guy

He only needs to do 2 hours work to not fuck us, he could do both

To be fair, their "sister's mother in law"? Do your fucking 2 hours of work.

[clockwork5]

Why women criticize the people who enjoy sexualized character designs |OT|

[Eric Cartman]

The jokers race, but *especially* his heterosexuality is a big part of his character

[Eric Cartman]

Them turning on Alex Garland after spending the last decade praising the man shows how shallow and  futile it is to court them. Him making a fictional war movie that doesn't 100% fit into their progressive anti-MAGA politics now makes Garland a centrist chud.

Alex Garland: "War is bad, mmmkay?"
Era: "First of all, how DARE you"

[Eric Cartman]

I'm not sure Erin Reed is a reliable source..

uh, they're fully endorsed by trans expert Alejandra Caraballo

[Eric Cartman]

I'm not sure Erin Reed is a reliable source..

uh, they're fully endorsed by trans expert Alejandra Caraballo

I'm not sure Alejandra Caraballo is a reliable source...

[Eric Cartman]

I'm not sure Erin Reed is a reliable source..

uh, they're fully endorsed by trans expert Alejandra Caraballo

I'm not sure Alejandra Caraballo is a reliable source...

uh, they're fully endorsed by trans expert Erin Reed

[Eric Cartman]

Linus is now dipping his toes into diet racism. Makes my decision to stop supporting this dumbass after the GN/Sexual issues even better.

This is some petty ass desperation to revive a failed cancellation, ngl

[Snoopy]

Closing on my first house this coming week in the hope for a child in the future. My children will have a home when I pass away.

[Eric Cartman]

It's 100% the point. The standards for trans people are always set impossibly high, above everything else. No matter how far you can reach, they'll raise it further and further.

If all other lifesaving medicine, science, and research had this much scrutiny, we'd be back in medieval times.

"Hello Doctor. I have pain. Reddit says I shoul;d have morphine, give me morphine."
"Can we get into more details and figure out what the underlying cause might be in case we can treat that?"
"No, give me morphine, the internet said I definitely need morphine. Or I might kill myself."
"Okay, here's an open ended prescription for morphine, and I will never contact you again for any follow up"

[Eric Cartman]

Being this bitter, petty and obsessively vindictive for this long can't be good for the body so... fingers crossed I guess?

Posted on page 110 of a topic dedicated solely to criticising (or, as era would rather term it, harassing) her

[Eric Cartman]

To an outsider merely skimming the headlines, there can be elements of the report that sound reasonable. I mean of course the best healthcare would be to explore the options and make sure the patient gets the best care, whether that's mental health in conjunction with gender affirming care. I'd have also assumed that was already happening, especially given the length of time the process already takes.
But skim even a millimetre below the surface and its ridiculous how bias this whole thing is

Of course, the dull witted moronic hoi polloi might just read the words that are actually there and conclude how very reasonable and level headed it is, but only a true super genius galaxy brain can read the report that wasn't written and conclude what a pile of horseshit it is in my head

[Eric Cartman]

One the one hand, it's nice to a country hold the wealthy and powerful accountable, a rarity in most countries. But, I'm vehemently against capital punishment, especially for a non-violent offense.


If you read the rest of the article, many geopolitical experts believe this was a show trial to make an example. I'm not familiar with Vietnamese geopolitic at all, but doesn't pass the sniff test just from the article, but again, it's a Western publication, they may be missing nuance here.

wow, thanks for the fucking insight Bertrand Russell.
"This might be good, but also bad. The details seem bad, but also the details might be wrong."

[Uncle]

Oh my god.. CANON?! That's absolutely something you can't ignore!

I think it's fair to be concerned that future entries will use the show as official lore for moving things forward and taking future games in a direction you don't like

it's not that you no longer have old good media, it's the prospect that future media will suck

[Eric Cartman]

(I actually can't begrudge era posters hedging their bets on any particular moral stance to take because you never know what some fucking mentalist is going to pounce on as the One True Opinion)

[Uncle]

Is funny they are bitching about the show (supposedly)

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

“retconned Fallout 1 and 2”  

but Amazon Prime was giving Fallout 2 for free.

That’s how much they hate those games. 

 that's not evidence of love and care, that's "what do we have access to that we can give out for free publicity that wouldn't get us much profit if we actually sold it"

like, if they had given out fallout 3 for free instead, would you be taking that as evidence that they hate 1 and 2

[HaughtyFrank]

The next inevitable step for these ghouls: clamp down on adult trans care. Heartbreaking.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/10/adult-transgender-clinics-in-england-face-inquiry-into-patient-care

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/post-121534560

Meanwhile the actual article is about how these clinics refused to share any of their data with the Cass report and how there's an increased spike of people detransitioning 

It was being launched also because there was “an increasing incidence of individuals seeking to ‘detransition’ following previous gender affirming interventions and the absence of a consistent, defined clinical approach for them”, said John Stewart and Prof James Palmer, NHS England’s national director and medical director respectively of specialised commissioning.

NHS England also intends to force adult gender dysphoria clinics to hand over data which they refused to share with University of York researchers whom Cass had asked to obtain to help draw up best practice guidelines for how the NHS should help such vulnerable young people.

It will outline the health outcomes seen among the 9,000 people who as under-18s were cared for by the gender identity development service at the Tavistock and Portman NHS mental health trust.

Six of the seven trusts did not cooperate, prompting Cass to complain in her report that a potentially world-leading research project had been “thwarted” by NHS secrecy.

They're just completely trapped in a bubble where they think it's absolutely impossible that the standards might be shit

[Eric Cartman]

The next inevitable step for these ghouls: clamp down on adult trans care. Heartbreaking.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/10/adult-transgender-clinics-in-england-face-inquiry-into-patient-care

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/post-121534560

Meanwhile the actual article is about how these clinics refused to share any of their data with the Cass report and how there's an increased spike of people detransitioning 

It was being launched also because there was “an increasing incidence of individuals seeking to ‘detransition’ following previous gender affirming interventions and the absence of a consistent, defined clinical approach for them”, said John Stewart and Prof James Palmer, NHS England’s national director and medical director respectively of specialised commissioning.

They're just completely trapped in a bubble where they think it's absolutely impossible that the standards might be shit

Uh, you need to read the words of the article that wasn't written transphobe

[kaleidoscopium]

Feels weird to see them with the green Shinigami Eyes tag.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-110?post=121539351#post-121539351

[Eric Cartman]

This is going to sound blunt because I'm tired, but I don't need the gender critical movement explained to me like I'm 12. I was pushing back on the excuses you were giving in response to someone frustrated that Labour are backing the report

I mean... apparently you do. Aiming at 12 year old level comprehension might even be above you.

[HardcoreRetro]

Oh my god.. CANON?! That's absolutely something you can't ignore!

I think it's fair to be concerned that future entries will use the show as official lore for moving things forward and taking future games in a direction you don't like

it's not that you no longer have old good media, it's the prospect that future media will suck

Damn, and I had such high hopes for the series after Fallout 4 and Fallout 76.  :(

[JoeBoy101]

Where do they find these totally unhinged posters?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-my-colleague-taking-unreasonable-leave.841050/

So, I work in a finance role and this week is key for us finalising our forecast and presenting to the CFO and CEO.

The equivalent in my team has a very system based role that he manages, completely remote.

He is actually working abroad at the moment visiting his sister while working at her house. Today my manager informs our team, that our colleague won't be working the remainder of the week as his sisters mother in law has been given taken ill in hospital. To me this is a bullshit excuse, but let me know if I am being too harsh.

The team is me, my manager and this guy

He only needs to do 2 hours work to not fuck us, he could do both

To be fair, their "sister's mother in law"? Do your fucking 2 hours of work.

Gotta agree with this. I mean, WTF, “sister’s mother-in-law”? I get you might need to help with some things, but out the remainder of the week? No.

[Bootsthecat]

Gotta agree with this. I mean, WTF, “sister’s mother-in-law”? I get you might need to help with some things, but out the remainder of the week? No.

Who TF cares if it was their 8th cousin, or even their headmate. I mean, as the affected party you're free to be mad, so long as you understand all you're accomplishing is making yourself mad. The resetera way I suppose

[Eric Cartman]

It is incredibly easy to find examples of people arguing that men being attracted to women is somehow gay and icky.

[Snoopy]

I suppose it is easy if your definition of women includes beards, receding hairlines and hairy chests

[Straight Edge]

Oh shit. Rian “Star Wars killer” Johnson likes Civil War.

[benji]

One the one hand, it's nice to a country hold the wealthy and powerful accountable, a rarity in most countries. But, I'm vehemently against capital punishment, especially for a non-violent offense.


If you read the rest of the article, many geopolitical experts believe this was a show trial to make an example. I'm not familiar with Vietnamese geopolitic at all, but doesn't pass the sniff test just from the article, but again, it's a Western publication, they may be missing nuance here.

It's a communist state, they're all show trials. That's the "nuance" about "Vietnamese geopolitic" whatever that is supposed to mean.