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[Uncle]

4chan is a kinder resetera, who would instead tell you to abuse those foul-mouthed ingrates right back, because you are morally correct and all actions are justified against them

[Boredfrom]

4chan is a kinder resetera, who would instead tell you to abuse those foul-mouthed ingrates right back, because you are morally correct and all actions are justified against them

Dont push your luck, uncle. 

Some boards are beyond saving.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/happy-juneteenth-2023.732426/#post-107623914

User Banned (Permanent): Racism, previous bans for racist and xenophobic commentary

From my understanding, President Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation freeing slaves within the Confederate states, but enforcement required the Confederate states joining the Union or the Union armymen advancing deeper into the Confederacy. Slavery continued in the deeper Confederate states. Two and a half years later, on June 19, 1865, the Union general reached Galveston, TX and announced the freedom of slaves in TX which was the "last" state to be freed (due to it's distance from the Union and time for the army to reach there). [Though reading the Wiki I learned that some slavery in Delaware and Kentucky wasn't ended until Dec 1865 with the 3rd amendment?]

So it's a day celebrating Union subjugation of Confederate Texas and slave liberation of the then-largest state in America?

Feels bizarre to make holidays honoring slave states being made free states, since that progress eventually got undone. It's like celebrating the Spring of Nations.

That user is supposedly a school teacher

[D3RANG3D]

Par for the course for the murrican edumication system.

[Besticus Maximus]

Finding out Excelsiorlef is excited about the horror films I am excited about caused a deep existential crisis tbh

Also slavery was completely fucked up and the Americans might never get over it, on the whole I can't really see many great arguments against Juneteenth, plus it's another holiday and I'm under the yoke of capitalism here

[killamajig]

Is Melody Shreds a user that changed her user name or an alt? I swear  she reminds me of someone…

Might be thinking of this.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=48241.msg3085201#msg3085201

Melody Shreds

It's with a heavy heart that I announce that i've had enough and i will be leaving this forum. certain members of staff has made it clear that they don't actually care about trans people, only throwing us a bone occasionally to keep us temporarily satiated. A specific moderator whom i will not name has made my time here very uncorfortable and anxiety inducing and I hope they someday have a moment of introspection as i wish no ill will on them.

Goodbye my friends its been a good 15 years, i was happy to have been part of this community for as long as it lasted.

What? Moral grandstanding and not following though with your threat? Never seen that on Reee.

[benji]

I think the inherent problem is when they set up Era, none of them had a genuine clue as to how to moderate a forum in the truest sense of the word and their only case example was GAF whose moderation method was constant bans, esp post-gamergate for daring to say anything out of the orthodoxy of the moderator's beliefs. Couple that with some of the worst stunt casting of the most odious special interest posters at GAF and you have an absolute recipe for disaster of Jonestown proportions.

They had two problems with GAF: the owner and that ban reasons weren't public. They went back on multiple of their transparency/forgiveness/etc. claims before the new forum even launched.

Choosing someone to do this job requires a level of trust in the person that I don't take lightly. Everyone on staff is beyond trustworthy and we are careful to make sure it stays that way in order to keep the users safe.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/reddit-is-about-to-kill-third-party-apps-their-pricing-is-nuts-apollo-would-owe-reddit-20m-yearly-in-api-fees-up-apollo-shutting-down-6-30.725013/page-56#post-107615325

Resetera was created by members, not former staff. And the staff leaving the old place did so because they weren't comfortable being around a sexual abuser and his behavior.

No, they were upset because Evilore blatantly lied to them. Only the mods were allowed to do that like when they claimed nobody even knew who Amir0x was. 

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/happy-juneteenth-2023.732426/#post-107623914

From my understanding, President Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation freeing slaves within the Confederate states, but enforcement required the Confederate states joining the Union or the Union armymen advancing deeper into the Confederacy. Slavery continued in the deeper Confederate states. Two and a half years later, on June 19, 1865, the Union general reached Galveston, TX and announced the freedom of slaves in TX which was the "last" state to be freed (due to it's distance from the Union and time for the army to reach there). [Though reading the Wiki I learned that some slavery in Delaware and Kentucky wasn't ended until Dec 1865 with the 3rd amendment?]

Pretty impressive how much this guy got wrong even as he admitted he was looking at the Wiki entry.

edit: For the record and because I want you to be informed. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't free slaves anywhere, it was a statement applied to a place where the United States had no jurisdiction. The Union Army had been "freeing" slaves from the start of the war because it had been claiming them as war booty, this never changed. (They were usually conscripted into laboring for the military.) Slaves were almost never "freed" since there was nothing to do with them, they were told to stay on the plantations. Delaware and Kentucky were in Union control when Lincoln issued it so it didn't apply to them, and Delaware never left the Union anyway (nor did Kentucky officially but the Confederates seized parts of the state and the state government fled), so of course slavery didn't end there until the 13th Amendment was passed later. (The 3rd Amendment is the super important one about not having to quarter troops in your house.)

[DSC]

some reasonable actions in Constructive Community today:

user points out that a pc performance thread was locked seemingly with no reason, mod explains that it was low effort, user says "yeah, but it was still doing its job," mod re-opens with admonishment to do better in the future. OP: "whaddya mean, actual effort?"

the guy who has been trying to get an actual rule explanation on "abuse of regional pricing" finally got a mod who took the time to answer him and didn't feel the need to be condescending like nep:

I'll try but I'm confused about what you want. The wording is super weird and with some users scrutinizing staff's words at every instance saying we "approve" of anything is bound to come back and lead to problems. I want to be clear but I'm not approving things if that makes sense...

You reported some users. Those reports were not actioned and we said we will consider policy on the subject. So far, there is no change to policy. FAQ is in the process of being updated so maybe in the future this will change. However. There is nothing new at this time. I'm not sure what more there is to say.

The banning of the c-word is something that is part of our rules now, this can be an example of specific policy. There are currently no new changes such as this regarding the topic of regional price abuse.

No explicit policy doesn't mean it is 'approved' or endorse. There are plenty of questionable things users can be a part of, can discuss and so on. Look no further than this thread for an example. Just because there aren't any specific policy to it, doesn't mean posts involving it doesn't get caught in other rules such as trolling, dismissing concerns etc so we avoid any confusion of "approved" topics.

I understand that sometimes you want super clear and concise rulings. Unfortunately a lot of the times we don't have that, we can't cover everything and we have to decide based on what we have and what makes sense. You won't be banned for talking about the issues with regional price abuse. We try our best to let people voice their concerns. That said, you can't force people to care and antagonizing members is another issue. I can't really offer more guidance because reports are still kind of case by case.

The reports are closed and if policy changes, those won't be re-opened. New rules will be actioned on posts that come after. Its rare for us to action posts over 1m past. If we do it is usually something serious and likely a long or permanent ban relating to things such as bigotry, harassment, doxxing etc.

I hope that clear things up.

like, how hard was that? "it's not a codified rule, so we don't have a policy on it. also, sometimes the rulings are in the grey area." that's friendly, understandable, and explained in a manner that shows respect.

i will say that i love that this poster, by repeatedly asking for something reasonable for months, illustrates how the constructive thread is basically a containment zone: someone says the new pride flag colors look nice? staff shows up one after another to post. someone asks for a rules clarification that might be a little muddy? crickets, or condescension. also, he was told to "just report ppl" but was concerned about getting actioned for reporting - it's one of the more insidious ban reasons, since it won't show up in a banner or banbot, etc.

oh, and then someone points out that ppl in the "maybe a billionaire died in a submersible near the Titanic" are being absolutely inhumane weirdos:

I see B-Dubs is already giving someone a bit of a grilling in it, but do we really need to accept the behaviour as seen in this thread where a potential maritime loss of life is being considered a good thing because one of the potential victims was a billionaire?

"Brain worms" is a phrase usually reserved for those who drank the MAGA kool-aid but damn if I don't see equally heartless behaviour from some posters on this forum sometimes that reeks of ideology over rationality and/or basic human compassion.

And I say this as someone who agrees the existence of billionaires is inherently immoral, the damage they do to economic and climate equality is massive. I would be adamantly for societal reform to make them extinct as a concept. But the fuck is this "they had money? lol gg" reaction to potential loss of life?

happily, it looks like some folks might actually get actioned in there, but whichever staff is reading this thread to decide who to perm next for trolling, please take this to heart: by turning a blind eye to this sort of "lol a person whose beliefs didn't align exactly with mine died, ripbozo" posting for literal years, letting people make a game of "what kind of shitty jokes can we make about someone dying," you have created this atmosphere. i think it's too late to truly fix, because so many of the regular people have either been banned or just plain left, but at least try.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Finding out Excelsiorlef is excited about the horror films I am excited about caused a deep existential crisis tbh

She likes one of my favourite bands. Stopped clock.

[YuYu]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2-new-behind-the-scenes-images-from-the-cancelled-%E2%80%98batgirl%E2%80%99-movie-have-been-released.732738/post-107648334

I have no proof but I would not be surprsied if the main reason why this movie wasn't released was racism and tax breaks

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2-new-behind-the-scenes-images-from-the-cancelled-%E2%80%98batgirl%E2%80%99-movie-have-been-released.732738/post-107648334

I have no proof but I would not be surprsied if the main reason why this movie wasn't released was racism and tax breaks

We literally know for a fact this movie was canceled for tax reasons.

You'll have to forgive me when I don't quite trust the words of a corp

…what? You said:

But you do have proof. You don’t have to guess the reason might be taxes, we know the reason is taxes.

I can see why my comment is confusing, the "no proof" I was referencing was the racism part.

Tax breaks while it is the 'official' reason given I still don't trust the word of a corporation.

Remember this forum doesn't allow its users to post misinformation and conspiracy theories.

[benji]

Honestly, after the treatment of Sasha Calle in The Flash, the way this Batgirl movie was treated looks even worse.

Given the lower budget and the fact that they could have truly marketed it as a Bat movie with the return of Keaton, I fully believe Batgirl could have made more profit for WB than The Flash.

Batgirl could be truly terrible. I just think that's irrelevant to the conversation and I find it strange to see people in every Batgirl thread pushing the, "But maybe it was bad!" rhetoric as a way of weirdly defending the giant mega corporation. This is the studio that released Shazam 2, Suicide Squad, Batman v Superman and Wonder Woman 1984.

And yeah, I dunno if Batgirl would have been shelved if it were instead, for example, a Nightwing movie. Just saying.

 

"But maybe it was bad!" rhetoric as a way of weirdly defending the giant mega corporation.

yup, how long did we have to hear about a certain cut getting released

now its all about trusting zaslav

But there never was a situation were WBD was, for some reason, only going to release The Flash or Batgirl. Their fates weren’t connected like that. Batgirl’s cancellation didn’t lead to The Flash being released, and if The Flash had not come out Batgirl would still be in the garbage can.

It’s, again, a completely hyperbolic and baseless statement to make.

I think the argument is that they clearly had tax write offs on the mind and instead of writing off both they wrote off the cheaper one that could have more easily gotten back it’s budget versus the much more expensive one with a troubled lead (and a less well known lead character) that would need to make like 600 million dollars to even break even.

Staff member literally believes the tax code lets you write off anything you want:

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kellogg%E2%80%99s-now-focus-of-conservative-boycott-after-dylan-mulvaney-takes-a-photo-with-tony-the-tiger.732753/#post-107651052

I can't imagine how it must feel to go through life being offended by EVERYTHING like these people. Just feeling like everything in the world that doesn't cater to your tiny little worldview is terrifying and conspiratorial.

 

[D3RANG3D]

[Polident]

Unironically I’m for Batgirl’s release as unlikely as it is. Trouble is nobody cares to fight for it. Nobody willing to do what’s necessary. Even Firefly nerds were calling Fox execs at home and shit for a second season. Batgirl fans can’t even get a hashtag going.

[Boredfrom]

Wait, ZEO truly believes that Batgirl could had made more money than The Flash?

They keep saying that was not about quality because DC films are bad but they defend Ant Man 3

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/reddit-is-about-to-kill-third-party-apps-their-pricing-is-nuts-apollo-would-owe-reddit-20m-yearly-in-api-fees-up-apollo-shutting-down-6-30.725013/page-57#post-107646033

This makes sense now, it does feel like you're just drumming up drama from nothing.

I'm not deliberately trying to but it could be because I'm in the minority opinion in this thread about the protest, I've got my own issues with reddit mods so I fell no solidarity with them, plus most of the updates I get for what's going on is from subredditdrama which is a sub focused on drama.

It's hard to take many of the reddit mods seriously when they do all this stuff. Like they complain about loosing third party apps yet some want to move to Discord, where third party apps aren't allowed.

This guy claimed to be a Reddit mod and deleted his 8+ year old account with 50k+ karma points.  Ree is all talk and weren't gonna do it

[Boredfrom]

If Red Mercury can be a Reddit janitor, any fuck can. Do they really think there is more quality mods over power hungry losers?

[benji]

[Location: WBD Corporate Boardroom, ResetERA.com version]

ZASLAV: This DC shit is a disaster, we should just start over, what's too far along to dump?

EXEC1: Well, we have the brilliant amazing cheapo Batgirl and the expensive pieces of crap The Flash and Aquaman 2 plus the inbetween Blue Beetle.

ZASLAV: I want the biggest tax savings possible, I want the federal government to pay me this year since I personally collect all profits made by WBD.

*screen comes down and short clips are shown of each movie*

ZASLAV: God, that was terrible.

EXEC2: I think our conclusions here should be pretty clear, especially since Ezra (they/them) is currently at top of the FBI's most wanted list and Aquaman 2 is part of the discredited Snyderverse while Batgirl is refreshing and new.

ZASLAV: Yep, obvious what to do. I know I'm leaving billions on the table but let's put out The Flash and Aquaman 2, might help our chuds on YouTube. And can Batgirl, I can't stand people of color. Also let's confirm bumping Blue Beetle up to theater release and anybody I hire to come in and rework the entire DC Film slate should not be allowed to stop that and maybe should have to keep it canon, I fucking love George Lopez.

[Boredfrom]

Man, I saw some parts of the George Lopez show some years ago and I wanted to die. That shit was more offensive than Primos in how unfunny it was.

[benji]

Man, I saw some parts of the George Lopez show some years ago and I wanted to die. That shit was more offensive than Primos in how unfunny it was.

That's why the virulent racist Zaslav loves him, he thinks Mexicans are "funny" and should be laughed at.

[SmokyDave]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-government-guidance-for-schools-mandates-outing-children-to-parents-denying-uniform-pronoun-changes-without-their-consent-and-more.732477/page-2#post-107663052

On the front page of one of Britain's largest newspapers this morning. Can always trust the Telegraph for some bullshit to prepare people for whatever transphobic trash the government has planned next.

Context for others 'Safe Schools Alliance UK' is a group whose express purpose is to fearmonger and campaign against allowing trans children to be themselves in school, have access to healthcare and have education around trans topics.

*telegraph screenshot removed*

I wonder why the ‘context for others’ part doesn’t mention that this current story kicked off when an audio recording leaked of a teacher berating a teen for not respecting another pupil that identified as a cat.

[Boredfrom]

1687252220[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-government-guidance-for-schools-mandates-outing-children-to-parents-denying-uniform-pronoun-changes-without-their-consent-and-more.732477/page-2#post-107663052

On the front page of one of Britain's largest newspapers this morning. Can always trust the Telegraph for some bullshit to prepare people for whatever transphobic trash the government has planned next.

Context for others 'Safe Schools Alliance UK' is a group whose express purpose is to fearmonger and campaign against allowing trans children to be themselves in school, have access to healthcare and have education around trans topics.

*telegraph screenshot removed*

I wonder why the ‘context for others’ part doesn’t mention that this current story kicked off when an audio recording leaked of a teacher berating a teen for not respecting another pupil that identified as a cat.

Why the fuck TransERA thinks is a good idea to defend this shit. At least say it is a hoax or something else, for fuck sake you dumb idiots. Is not only the The Telegraph reporting it.

[Daffy Duck]

1687252220[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-government-guidance-for-schools-mandates-outing-children-to-parents-denying-uniform-pronoun-changes-without-their-consent-and-more.732477/page-2#post-107663052

On the front page of one of Britain's largest newspapers this morning. Can always trust the Telegraph for some bullshit to prepare people for whatever transphobic trash the government has planned next.

Context for others 'Safe Schools Alliance UK' is a group whose express purpose is to fearmonger and campaign against allowing trans children to be themselves in school, have access to healthcare and have education around trans topics.

*telegraph screenshot removed*

I wonder why the ‘context for others’ part doesn’t mention that this current story kicked off when an audio recording leaked of a teacher berating a teen for not respecting another pupil that identified as a cat.

This safe schools alliance do realise that kids are abhorrent little shits don’t they? They don’t actually identify as a cat or a moon, they are taking the absolute piss out the class/teacher because they know they can. The only issues those kids have is a lack of discipline they don’t have mental illness they just know how to fuck the system because orgs like safe schools have fucked it.

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-government-guidance-for-schools-mandates-outing-children-to-parents-denying-uniform-pronoun-changes-without-their-consent-and-more.732477/page-2#post-107663052

On the front page of one of Britain's largest newspapers this morning. Can always trust the Telegraph for some bullshit to prepare people for whatever transphobic trash the government has planned next.

Context for others 'Safe Schools Alliance UK' is a group whose express purpose is to fearmonger and campaign against allowing trans children to be themselves in school, have access to healthcare and have education around trans topics.

*telegraph screenshot removed*

I wonder why the ‘context for others’ part doesn’t mention that this current story kicked off when an audio recording leaked of a teacher berating a teen for not respecting another pupil that identified as a cat.

Tracy Shaw, a spokesman for the Safe Schools Alliance, said teachers should be asking themselves: "What are these children looking at online? What forums are they on? What is happening in that child's life and who else is involved?"

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/14bhz4p/from_hobby_to_forced_labour_reddits_unyielding/
A jannie being forced into labor 

[Boredfrom]

1687253717[/url]']

1687252220[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-government-guidance-for-schools-mandates-outing-children-to-parents-denying-uniform-pronoun-changes-without-their-consent-and-more.732477/page-2#post-107663052

On the front page of one of Britain's largest newspapers this morning. Can always trust the Telegraph for some bullshit to prepare people for whatever transphobic trash the government has planned next.

Context for others 'Safe Schools Alliance UK' is a group whose express purpose is to fearmonger and campaign against allowing trans children to be themselves in school, have access to healthcare and have education around trans topics.

*telegraph screenshot removed*

I wonder why the ‘context for others’ part doesn’t mention that this current story kicked off when an audio recording leaked of a teacher berating a teen for not respecting another pupil that identified as a cat.

This safe schools alliance do realise that kids are abhorrent little shits don’t they? They don’t actually identify as a cat or a moon, they are taking the absolute piss out the class/teacher because they know they can. The only issues those kids have is a lack of discipline they don’t have mental illness they just know how to fuck the system because orgs like safe schools have fucked it.

While the students didn’t identify as a cat or whatever, the teacher took the bait hard and never let it go.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-government-guidance-for-schools-mandates-outing-children-to-parents-denying-uniform-pronoun-changes-without-their-consent-and-more.732477/page-2#post-107663052

On the front page of one of Britain's largest newspapers this morning. Can always trust the Telegraph for some bullshit to prepare people for whatever transphobic trash the government has planned next.

Context for others 'Safe Schools Alliance UK' is a group whose express purpose is to fearmonger and campaign against allowing trans children to be themselves in school, have access to healthcare and have education around trans topics.

*telegraph screenshot removed*

I wonder why the ‘context for others’ part doesn’t mention that this current story kicked off when an audio recording leaked of a teacher berating a teen for not respecting another pupil that identified as a cat.

Tracy Shaw, a spokesman for the Safe Schools Alliance, said teachers should be asking themselves: "What are these children looking at online? What forums are they on? What is happening in that child's life and who else is involved?"

[Kadayi]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-government-guidance-for-schools-mandates-outing-children-to-parents-denying-uniform-pronoun-changes-without-their-consent-and-more.732477/page-2#post-107663052

On the front page of one of Britain's largest newspapers this morning. Can always trust the Telegraph for some bullshit to prepare people for whatever transphobic trash the government has planned next.

Context for others 'Safe Schools Alliance UK' is a group whose express purpose is to fearmonger and campaign against allowing trans children to be themselves in school, have access to healthcare and have education around trans topics.

*telegraph screenshot removed*

I wonder why the ‘context for others’ part doesn’t mention that this current story kicked off when an audio recording leaked of a teacher berating a teen for not respecting another pupil that identified as a cat.

Tracy Shaw, a spokesman for the Safe Schools Alliance, said teachers should be asking themselves: "What are these children looking at online? What forums are they on? What is happening in that child's life and who else is involved?"

The utter insanity of this shit beggars belief. I saw a great response on Twitter where someone said the pupil should have turned around and said I identify as your boss, and so you're fired. 

I mean by virtue of their own criteria they can't dispute it right? Absolute fuckwits, shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children. 

I identify as a cat...should they put out a litter tray for them to shit in in the classroom?