Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Averon]

but also kind of ignores that these characters aren't choosing to wears these costumes by choice and like... No not really.

Why they keep hammering this shit? Is an awful take that somehow alludes that video game characters can consent. Is shit that Chris Chan would argue.

It's fucking bizarre is what it is.

"Bu bu the digital, fictional character didn't 'consent.' It is forced to wear what the programmer programed it to wear."

No fucking shit. This is true for every digital character if that's your argument. It's like saying water is wet, as if that common sense observation is relevant or bolsters your point.

[benji]

I remember when Barbie was harmful to women and reinforced the patriarchy. Not to mention the capitalism involved in the corporate consumer product. Now it's the pinnacle of female achievement apparently.

[Boredfrom]

I remember when Barbie was harmful to women and reinforced the patriarchy. Not to mention the capitalism involved in the corporate consumer product. Now it's the pinnacle of female achievement apparently.

They discuss that in the film. With a RE esque character.

[Boredfrom]

Now it's the pinnacle of female achievement apparently.

The film also mocks the shit out of this idea in its first minutes.

[benji]

The emotional labor's not on me to watch the film.

[benji]

“Everyone says ‘It’s the movies, stupid,’ which is an easy thing for people to say. More appealing movies are a great way to jump the political issues. But more and more, our audience (or the segment of the audience that has been politicized) equate the perceived messaging in a film as a quality issue. They won’t say they find female empowerment distasteful in The Marvels or Star Wars [the latest trilogy starring Daisy Ridley], but they will say they don’t like those movies because they are ‘bad.’ So ‘make better movies’ becomes code for ‘make movies that conform to regressive gender stereotypes or put men front and center in the narrative.’ Which is what you’re seeing now, and what Bob [Iger]’s pivot is about right now.” -A Disney executive

I refuse to watch any media with women in it because how do I know they consented to it? Remember, 99.9% of rapes aren't reported.

[benji]

"But they agreed to do it."

There's no ethical consent under capitalist patriarchy.

[Boredfrom]

If that beach scene with unironic, classic distilled male gaze is the worst of Rebirth in terms of fanservice, I can live with that.

[Taco Bell Tower]

You think it's fine to dress these women against their consent in "tasteful" outfits when you know there's some coomer incel male rapist (but I repeat myself four times) out there being titillated by it??? 

Spoiler: top of the page tasteful titillation (click to show)(click to hide)

[LegendOfSwagda]

it really comes down to them not liking something and because no one gives a shit, they attempt to make liking said thing an "aksually you are a bad person doe"...and got away with doing so for a bit...and now they are mostly left in their echo chamber because most people just ignore them now.

the funny part is that they rush right to "the only people you like this are women hating bigots" when the reality is that people...women mostly just like to look at attractive people. Its not always a "I want to fuck that person" thing either...they can't stand the reality that not everyone want to spend hours looking at frumpy normal people. The Marvels bombed in large part due to that IMO. You have a hot actress who plays a character that can shoot lazers, fly and basically fuck shit up and Disney/Marvel decided to make her look bland, be bland and have no personality to own the chuds (which TBF is the character in the comics too) and wonder why it didn't take. The Audience they want don't even give a shit about it ffs. The Female audience btw were there because they thought Chris Evans is hot.

Cow-towing to such a small audience because you are afraid they will screech and cancel you on twitter has taaaanked a lot of shit in recent years especially in the nerd/weeb/loser spaces lol. The breakout successes have come from places who either ignored them or simply/luckily has a language barrier getting in the way of the crazies. I am glad w/ this outcome...doesn't mean I want everything to be anti-woke either but the safe boring shit being on the outs is great.

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-325?post=119576814#post-119576814


This is their "ideal" Tifa

[Taco Bell Tower]

Need to keep calling them out - both in-person and online.

We must stigmatize fossil fuel pollution to the level of Nazis. If you even hint at supporting the fossil industry, you deserve nothing less than PR disaster, if not losing your entire business.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mercedes-benz-delays-electrification-goal-beefs-up-combustion-engine-line-up-reuters.820287/

Saying the quiet part out loud.

I remember this user 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamer-outrage-culture.89414/page-3?post=16285638#post-16285638

We can go further:
Report videos.
Report comments.
Report them to family members and authority figures(e.g. their teachers, bosses, local police, etc.)
Report their Twitter and Facebook accounts.
Contact advertisers to threaten boycott of their products.
It may not have an instant effect, but if we keep doing it repeatedly and vocally, then YouTube and advertisers will eventually have to listen.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-325?post=119576814#post-119576814


This is ClickyCal's "ideal" Tifa

They really don't understand the Japanese market, huh..

[benji]

Cow-towing to such a small audience because you are afraid they will screech and cancel you on twitter has taaaanked a lot of shit in recent years especially in the nerd/weeb/loser spaces lol. The breakout successes have come from places who either ignored them or simply/luckily has a language barrier getting in the way of the crazies. I am glad w/ this outcome...doesn't mean I want everything to be anti-woke either but the safe boring shit being on the outs is great.

They earnestly think the vast majority of people in 2024 America are white supremacist at a level comparable to the 1924's deep South or something. So any garbage with a Black person in it is "challenging" the squares just by existing and it's only the enlightened like them that are dumping a billion dollars into Black Panther's box office or making Will Smith/Denzel Washington/Oprah Winfrey/Halle Berry/etc. megastars or however many other examples across media. Or, you know, electing Obama as President twice.

You can see it in the way they talk about people who dislike the stuff they've randomly decided to support and especially in how before anything even comes out they start pre-emptively getting upset about how the chuds will respond. They were absolutely convinced that Forspoken and The Marvels were going to be massive chud spergouts and both were complete nothings and were broadly ignored. It's like when they thought Joker was going to lead to an incel uprising or how any movie bombing is going to lead to dumping over half the actors in Hollywood.

They're exactly as culture war poisoned as the people they're constantly neurotic about having the "wrong response", maybe more so because the chuds actually seem to enjoy things for non-culture-war reasons sometimes.

They're obsessed with this creepy demographic shit so all their enemies must be obsessed about it too. And you can't give those Nazis an inch anywhere!

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

We are agreeing the big imperial and economic power is mainly USA, right? That country has been the blocker for decades with these int'l organisations to actually do justice.

Russia and China have done the same shit on dozens of occasions, you know that right?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-begins-bombing-of-southern-gaza-following-collapse-of-ceasefire-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-272?post=119559495#post-119559495

Whataboutism!

[cRumB]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-325?post=119576814#post-119576814


This is ClickyCal's "ideal" Tifa

Where's the wheelchair tho?

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-325?post=119576814#post-119576814


This is ClickyCal's "ideal" Tifa

"Here's a realistic woman!"

*posts picture of MMA weigh-in where the fighters cut weight to the point where they pass out*

[Boredfrom]

The emotional labor's not on me to watch the film.

Is better and raunchier than you think. It ends with a vagina joke.

[TylenolJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-325?post=119576814#post-119576814


This is their "ideal" Tifa

Too much skin showing.

[benji]

Is better and raunchier than you think. It ends with a vagina joke.

I don't support transphobic garbage, sorry.

Mattel is a well known funder of Joanne's genocide: https://shop.mattel.com/collections/harry-potter

Not to mention it was a Warner Bros. film which means it's tied to both Zaslav and Joanne's genocides.

[Boredfrom]

I’m surprised that nobody bitched about the fact that:

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

after becoming a real woman, Barbie gains a vagina. Something that she outright says that she lacks at one point (like Ken lacks balls and dick).

Feels like a TERF talking point. But having a Trans actress in the cast probably helped to not trigger the TransMafia.

[benji]

I'll just explain the joke for ResetERA.com staff members, you can literally (in the literal sense of the word) do this "problematic" objection! shit to anything. It's not a confirmation that humanity is a mistake or that there's no ethical consumption in a democracy, it's a recognition of the infinite tastes of humans. You're not "smart" for identifying these "problems", it's beyond easy to do whenever someone wants to. Perfection is not an actual standard.

You're granting divine status to the Heckler's Veto and then reacting to the power you granted by trying to restrict it to an elite caste you can control access to. That's not progressive, that's the Catholic Church.

[kaleidoscopium]

screenshot came out it was the camera I was worried about. The bikinis are fine
…..
I still can't get over the frills though, lol. I know why they're there -- to cover some bust and booty! -- but frills.

What is this weirdo upset about? Their bikinis look like plenty of random bikinis you would see out on the beach any day of the week

[Rendle]

Non-natives should be respectful of their Nativeness by bringing up Two Spirit which isn't something these Natives believe in. (Because the colonizers forced them to erase it probably.)

Say what you will about the validity of two-spirit but I use LGBTQIA2S+ as my password and without that digit it'd also be invalid.

[benji]

From Frosted Snowflakes on Kiwi Farms:

Spoiler: original (click to show)(click to hide)

link because too sexual apparently for embed:
https://twitter.com/hoodrattanak/status/1760749266958733415

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Here is a novel idea, how about he reads the fucking contract.

Whoa. let's not get crazy.

Reminds me of the guy who complained about the postman opening his front door to leave packages, but refused to lock his front door.

[Daffy Duck]

She punches AND kicks so her physique makes zero sense. If anything she's even skinnier in the remakes than the last time we saw her in an HD game:

[Nintex]

Antifa  

Tifa

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-325?post=119576814#post-119576814


This is their "ideal" Tifa

Too much skin showing.

I can’t believe they expect her to fight like that. Arteries exposed and everything.

[NekoFever]

screenshot came out it was the camera I was worried about. The bikinis are fine
…..
I still can't get over the frills though, lol. I know why they're there -- to cover some bust and booty! -- but frills.

What is this weirdo upset about? Their bikinis look like plenty of random bikinis you would see out on the beach any day of the week

I’m pretty sure the bikinis with frills are intended to be more modest as well. The designers have put them in middle-aged mom swimwear and they’re still not happy.