(07-02-2023, 06:33 PM)Boredfrom wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/france-unrest-riots-spread-thousands-march-in-memory-of-shot-teenager.736473/page-7#post-108386013
ClickyCal wrote:This makes me feel even more fucked over by cis people. If there ever somehow were movements done fighting against trans genocide, we would be tut tutted back to the closet instead.
That thread having the worst posters of RE acting like they know what they talking about.
I really want them to enumerate what exactly they're going to fucking riot over.
Performing experimental medical procedures on minors without disclosing the risks and/or side effects?
The chilling effect of hecklers veto on scientists and academics because you don't like what the results might be?
Total elimination of cis-women from physical competition?
Priority cosmetic medical treatment over NHS scheduled reconstructive surgeries because you don't want to wait and don't want to pay for your own procedures?
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ClickyCal', post: 108377916, member: 7351 wrote:When people fear for their lives, property kinda isn't the first priority. I wonder if he'd say the same thing if someone would burn down his house.
People should note that this the same community that hates Bioshock Infinite because the black leader of the revolutionary faction wanted to kill a child.
07-02-2023, 07:15 PM
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Drksage wrote:a reason on why this types of protest HAVEN’T lead to positive changes in modern times yet.
it’s because of people like you. The ones that hold the rest back with their selfishness. The ones that won’t help but also not let anyone get help.
July 8th 2019, Puerto Rico/in a week is going to be 4 years since.
We wanted our governor of that time out of power, why?
Because a telegram chat leaked were he made racist, homophobic, vulgar comments, and on top of that how he and his cronies shrugged and mocked the deaths of around 3k Puerto Ricans during hurricane Maria, a death toll that could have been lower if it wasn’t by their corruption and handling of federal government aids.
Yes he was kicked out, and we also burnt and broke things and confronted the police, heck we even painted on some walls and then came people with your mentality and were like “oooooh but the walls!!!”. Can you Imagine? People with your same mentality crying over some walls that could easily be painted by just going to Walmart and buying a fucking gallon of paint. It’s that mentality that’s always the pushback, and thanks to people with that mentality, another crony of his is now in power.
So yea I’d say this types of protest do work, and they’re specially effective when the protesters are right outside the door of those in power.
“It worked but it didn’t work in the long run”.
What was your point?
It would be a real shame if someone torched Nepenthe's Versa. It's just property, right?
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Quote:Because a telegram chat leaked were he made racist, homophobic, vulgar comments, and on top of that how he and his cronies shrugged and mocked the deaths of around 3k Puerto Ricans during hurricane Maria, a death toll that could have been lower if it wasn’t by their corruption and handling of federal government aids.
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Sloth Guevara wrote:So weird seeing a progressive forum cheer for industry consolidation.
Especially looking at how Xbox has handled its other acquisitions:S
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jonjonaug wrote:Masterz1337 wrote:Honestly I am okay with this. Ad blocking is no different than piracy imo. People made content and deserve and expect to be paid for it, its not fair or good people find work arounds to it.
I didn't want adds and watch dozens of hours of YouTube each week, so I pay 12 bucks not to view them. About 50c a day. Browsing the internet without an ad blocker is like having casual gay sex without a condom.
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BigSkinny0310 wrote:ZeoVGM wrote:The justice process does not always begin. In fact, the justice process usually never happens when it comes to domestic abuse.
What you are doing is dismissing the very valid accusations. You can't say, "I take accusations seriously," and follow it up with, "But I need more proof because nine people backing up the claim isn't enough."
Nine people are not lying. Simple as that. I’m not doing this song and dance all day. Taking something seriously means, I treat it with respect. That’s what that means. 9 unnamed third parties is not the strongest source. And it’s not proof or evidence. It is a claim, that for the record I think should be looked into. The first step being ti get names on the third parties at least so someone can begin the process.
We are two different people. You don’t have to comment on everything I post.
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AlecKoKuTan wrote:Zoe wrote:Not all victims are willing to step forward or even leave their abusive relationships. But Nine people? I'd imagine someone would have at least made a report for the victim, or at least against Majors. There has to be something on record, or is that really not unusual?
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EdenOfTheEast wrote:We are looking at a master class on how to assimilate a black man in America.
A white woman potentially making false allegations to destroy his career and the media doing their best to overturn every stone in his life all the way to high school.
It’s just text book at this point
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krazen wrote:Kaelan wrote:New article from Rolling Stone:
Quote:Jonathan Majors' 'Extreme Abuse' Allegedly Goes Back Nearly a Decade
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/jonathan-majors-abuse-allegations-yale-1234781136/
Majors was abusive with his partners, aggressive on sets, and a source of “toxicity” at Yale, two dozen sources tell Rolling Stone. Majors “vehemently denies” all accusations Eesh. Some of it could be misunderstanding (the part about him play wrestling and him getting mad kinda happens in play fighting all the time since boundaries are broken) and straight up people’s own biases about black men and how their behavior gets perceived, not a fan of ‘He was mean and rude’ from third parties.
It gets fucked up and much more damning when you get to the relationship parts; how it looks like the letters of support from past relationships were disingenuous and possibly falsified is not fucking good at all. How he physically attacked one and his manipulative behavior to another…
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(07-02-2023, 08:38 PM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtube-blocking-adblock-users-after-three-videos-in-testing.737295/page-2#post-108317928
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jonjonaug wrote:Masterz1337 wrote:Honestly I am okay with this. Ad blocking is no different than piracy imo. People made content and deserve and expect to be paid for it, its not fair or good people find work arounds to it.
I didn't want adds and watch dozens of hours of YouTube each week, so I pay 12 bucks not to view them. About 50c a day. Browsing the internet without an ad blocker is like having casual gay sex without a condom.
This is very homophobic and has no basis in fact, also the spread of monkey pox in one very specific demographic is a complete mystery
They didn't like the original name of Gay Butt Flu, not sure why
We know that's a fucking lie
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Mecha Meister wrote:EdenOfTheEast wrote:Neither is this type of protest .. change will only come from the top. Burning down an entire residential building won’t fix the systematic racism issue France has
I'm sorry, but if this is what's happening then this isn't right. Burning down people's homes? House fires are devastating and can claim lives.
You're gonna have people that are out there to protest and those that are out to cause mischief as always when riots happen. I hope we haven't gotten to the point where this is being cheered on.
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EdenOfTheEast wrote:Thordinson wrote:Very few folks are a “fan” of riots.
Sadly, throughout history we see that large positive societal change has never come through peaceful means alone. It’s the way the world works, unfortunately. Neither is this type of protest .. change will only come from the top. Burning down an entire residential building won’t fix the systematic racism issue France has
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A1a wrote:krazen wrote:Even if he was driving off to murder a baby can’t have the police skipping the rule of law or else you have people who feel they are lawless. End of the day they get paid quite well to deal with people driving off without having to murder them.
Secondly, why not burn a school, hospital etc. Why should those places stand if they don’t feel like they don’t service them? Because if the society can be fine with them arbitrarily being murdered for ‘driving off’ it doesn’t really see them as human, does it? Kinda hard to shake getting shot like an animal. In the video, the police officer with the gun is on the a-pillar of the car, another is leaning into the car, the car drives away pushing into the police officer with the gun.
Should the police officer have been pointing the gun at the driver probably not.
Should the driver have tried to drive off, probably not.
i have never been to the USA but I know if driving and was pulled over by the police, not to move and just put my hands on the dashboard or in the air.
Your second point, so they burn down public services in their deprived community, that is not going to help anything, if they don't believe a school doesn't service them, should it be rebuilt?
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Shameless_Pineapple wrote:ClickyCal wrote:No revolution has been peaceful.
Black people have done this and still ended up shot.
Damn, we're already just into the "looters and rioters" mongering talking point now. Aka right wing talking points.
This thread is something else... When you don't want your neighbourhood burnt to the ground, that's right wing.
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Elandyll wrote:Uncivilized Elk wrote:Another jackass flying into this thread to center property damage as the topic and question the property damage far more intensely than they question the police institutions that caused the riots.
Fucking wonderful. Unlike you I can at least engage in civilized conversation though.
You and some others make it about the destruction and riots when you imply it is a natural consequence of police abuse and the murder of that kid.
There is no excuse for institutional racism and abuse, and hopefully the death of Nahel will change some things.
There is also no excuse for senseless destruction which targets far more people who have nothing to do with said abuse.
But keep up your pretend outrage from the comfort of your home, calling names everyone who points out destroying bystander posessions is both stupid and counter productive.
You seem to be good at that.
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Jormatar wrote:Quote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66080505
France teen's family tell BBC police use of lethal force must change
One of Nahel's relatives says the riots do not honour Nahel's death, and the family want them to stop.
Let's see if the rioters will honor the family's wish or if they still feel like sending a message to society by causing havoc.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/france-unrest-riots-spread-thousands-march-in-memory-of-shot-teenager.736473/
Looks like Nep nep caught wind of this thread. Everyone who dared questions the wisdom of the riots and violence are getting banned
A bunch of terminally online shut-ins larping as revolutionaries will never not be fucking hilarious
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(07-02-2023, 10:45 PM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/france-unrest-riots-spread-thousands-march-in-memory-of-shot-teenager.736473/page-8#post-108388992
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Jormatar wrote:Quote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66080505
France teen's family tell BBC police use of lethal force must change
One of Nahel's relatives says the riots do not honour Nahel's death, and the family want them to stop.
Let's see if the rioters will honor the family's wish or if they still feel like sending a message to society by causing havoc.
Just earlier in the thread people were saying that this is all the in the name of that Teen and his family, then someone points out that the family doesn't want that and it's "concern trolling"
During these occurrences, I think back to the dumbest discourse around Bioshock 3. That the fictional revolutionary black lady could be a violent psycho. They were pressured into retconning it for the DLC. Turning it into a psyop.
That mindset somehow persists in these real demonstrations and riots. So actually, some weird white twins told the Frenchmen to burn down that building.
Nepenthe, post: 108395100, member: 1995 wrote:We should probably have a conservation about how people will easily believe any ol' random footage of a fire is an incidence of malicious arson during a protest, and how this simultaneously reinforces the belief that cops are the only thing holding society together against the barbaric animals of the underclasses.
Maybe. Probably.
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Nepenthe wrote:krazen wrote:Depends.
I would argue to a certain extent it depends where the moderates lie. If they are truly ignorant to the causes and really believe their cops are on the up and up I can absolutely see peaceful protests drawing attention to what is happening and pressure will be applied to change it. That said, that’s not the case here, you have decades of international incidents involving french police to the point that the only logical conclusion is that the moderates actually want a heavy handed police force, just not aimed at them. Yeah, we need to stop doing that thing where we characterize moderates as ignorant biddy-babs who simply need to be informed about issues before making a decision, because the fact of the matter is they aren't particularly reliable voters for minorities regardless even when shit pops off like this.
It's the same thing people do with conservatives and insist that debating them across a long enough period of time will change them into communists. Like, no, this isn't a glitch in the system, they genuinely believe what they say they believe in. Subsequently moderates are okay with the status quo but just don't care that much, or don't want to be caught up in any potential social consequences of their decision.
"Moderates" being anybody that doesn't believe in burning shit down.
Nephente suddenly cares about brown people again…
(07-03-2023, 12:17 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Nephente suddenly cares about brown people again… 
Apparently not enough to keep brown people's neighborhoods from burning down and being looted in riots.
Nep Nep the fucking tankie.
(07-03-2023, 12:17 AM)Boredfrom wrote: Nephente suddenly cares about brown people again… 
She doesn't mind them if their goals align. But better watch out if those brown people want some videogame representation
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Yabberwocky, post: 108399222, member: 18779 wrote:FFVIIR is the favorite for me, and I say this as a big Bayonetta fan, and with one of the first games I ever owned being DMC3.
(07-02-2023, 11:35 PM)Polident wrote: During these occurrences, I think back to the dumbest discourse around Bioshock 3. That the fictional revolutionary black lady could be a violent psycho. They were pressured into retconning it for the DLC. Turning it into a psyop.
That mindset somehow persists in these real demonstrations and riots. So actually, some weird white twins told the Frenchmen to burn down that building. Similarly, one of them was complaining about Indiana Jones, how the black FBI agent was working with the Nazi thugs 😂
There goes Thundercunt pretending she hasn't been watching dodgy extremists again
Quote:I don't watch extremist videos 🙄 Doesn't stop it from recommending me dogshit after I do so much as watch a TV trailer or even look up a clip. For example last year I looked up a clip for Rings of Power TV show and the first results were all anti-SJW trash. I even talked about it in a previous post, and repeated the experiment in Incognito mode too.
If you think the Youtube algorithm doesn't constantly push this crap on everyone it can to epidemic levels you are just being willfully ignorant by now. You can appreciate what Youtube offers without defending its shittier aspects, you know?
I did a search for ROP. All I got were a bunch of trailers and reviews for ROP. No extremists. No anti sjw trash. Weird.
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