Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[jooseloose]

It was the chuds. IT. WAS. THE. CHUDS!!!!

Every time the game was mentioned anywhere, without fail, it was shouted down by people saying some variety of "lol pronouns," "woke Guardians of the Galaxy," or, more generously, "who's going to pay $40 for a hero shooter?"

Is the alt-right backlash the sole trigger man here? Not by a long shot. The genre is crowded and too competitive to enter with a premium title, Sony's marketing approach didn't breach the dedicated gaming audience (most casual gamers don't watch State of Play showcases), and the game was more than a little derivative of other games in the space artistically.

Did it hurt that literally any and all discussion of the game was immediately drowned out by concern trolling, reactionary anti-woke sentiment and mockery? Yeah, kind of! And just like with The Acolyte — a show of an already "questionable" quality depending on who you asked — the chalice was so poisoned by online discourse and coordinated hate campaigns that anything other than a complete miracle was guaranteed to doom the product wholesale and serve as a small (but inarguable) victory to the worst kinds of people who were praying on its downfall from the jump for shitty, toxic reasons.

You all can say "this is the Era bubble at work" all you want and to some extent, maybe, but the "era bubble" here was also one of the only places that actually gave the game itself a chance, for better or worse. I made the damn OT, I know for a fact that there were a few dozen people on this site that were passionate and happy about the game and hopeful about its future if it could get out in front of actual players. At the same time, we had, what, four threads about how Concord was the flop of the century? It was doomed to fail because people on the internet — the few people that were aware of the game's existence — had decided its fate before it even released. We're just seeing that all play out now.

So yeah, again, is it solely the fault of reactionaries that the game is dead? No. There are a lot of factors at play here. But why are we pretending that the fix wasn't already in from the start? Look up the game on YouTube. Visit its Discord. Check out its subreddit. There are no rational discussions being held about the game's poor general marketing strategy or releasing a hero shooter in a crowded market, it's "lol pronouns," "lol go woke, go broke" as far as the eye can see. Pretending it's not a factor in this game's death is asinine.

Literally "there's dozens of us"

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/post-128081871

Kagari
She's back terrorizing another athlete, this time a trans woman at the Paralympics:

checkout that package 

Isn’t Petrillo case even more blatant cheating and keeping himself relevant?

[Propagandhim]

Does that sprinter have a gut? 

[Boredfrom]

It was the chuds. IT. WAS. THE. CHUDS!!!!

Every time the game was mentioned anywhere, without fail, it was shouted down by people saying some variety of "lol pronouns," "woke Guardians of the Galaxy," or, more generously, "who's going to pay $40 for a hero shooter?"

Is the alt-right backlash the sole trigger man here? Not by a long shot. The genre is crowded and too competitive to enter with a premium title, Sony's marketing approach didn't breach the dedicated gaming audience (most casual gamers don't watch State of Play showcases), and the game was more than a little derivative of other games in the space artistically.

Did it hurt that literally any and all discussion of the game was immediately drowned out by concern trolling, reactionary anti-woke sentiment and mockery? Yeah, kind of! And just like with The Acolyte — a show of an already "questionable" quality depending on who you asked — the chalice was so poisoned by online discourse and coordinated hate campaigns that anything other than a complete miracle was guaranteed to doom the product wholesale and serve as a small (but inarguable) victory to the worst kinds of people who were praying on its downfall from the jump for shitty, toxic reasons.

You all can say "this is the Era bubble at work" all you want and to some extent, maybe, but the "era bubble" here was also one of the only places that actually gave the game itself a chance, for better or worse. I made the damn OT, I know for a fact that there were a few dozen people on this site that were passionate and happy about the game and hopeful about its future if it could get out in front of actual players. At the same time, we had, what, four threads about how Concord was the flop of the century? It was doomed to fail because people on the internet — the few people that were aware of the game's existence — had decided its fate before it even released. We're just seeing that all play out now.

So yeah, again, is it solely the fault of reactionaries that the game is dead? No. There are a lot of factors at play here. But why are we pretending that the fix wasn't already in from the start? Look up the game on YouTube. Visit its Discord. Check out its subreddit. There are no rational discussions being held about the game's poor general marketing strategy or releasing a hero shooter in a crowded market, it's "lol pronouns," "lol go woke, go broke" as far as the eye can see. Pretending it's not a factor in this game's death is asinine.

At least MrDeadshot batted for the game because “graphics”, no because culture war BS.

[BananaBlast]

Yeah Dice seems to be actually talented, if only she wasn’t a deranged burqa bandit

She also seems like a decent person most of the time but then just comes off like a big hypocrite who is constantly posting in the burka thread while she also likes to draw bunny girls

I think it's more that her posting style isn't too inflammatory like the rest. She's not constantly openly buttmad like most of the other burka thread regulars.

But there's an insidious, passive aggressive undercurrent to her style. She'll say something that's a little fucked up in a way that sounds really casual and non-offensive, like "oof ouchies, smh I wish men weren't such rapist netherandals.... the world would be such a better place."

I think it's outright insane that she actually draws characters like Pyra, Mythra, Tifa, etc. when she always complains about them. If she's so replused by them, why draw them and try to sell them as pieces of art? I think it's just some weird jealously thing where she genuinely likes the characters but also gets really peeved whenever they have noticeable boobs or are sexualized in any way.

[Propagandhim]

It was the chuds. IT. WAS. THE. CHUDS!!!!

Every time the game was mentioned anywhere, without fail, it was shouted down by people saying some variety of "lol pronouns," "woke Guardians of the Galaxy," or, more generously, "who's going to pay $40 for a hero shooter?"

Is the alt-right backlash the sole trigger man here? Not by a long shot. The genre is crowded and too competitive to enter with a premium title, Sony's marketing approach didn't breach the dedicated gaming audience (most casual gamers don't watch State of Play showcases), and the game was more than a little derivative of other games in the space artistically.

Did it hurt that literally any and all discussion of the game was immediately drowned out by concern trolling, reactionary anti-woke sentiment and mockery? Yeah, kind of! And just like with The Acolyte — a show of an already "questionable" quality depending on who you asked — the chalice was so poisoned by online discourse and coordinated hate campaigns that anything other than a complete miracle was guaranteed to doom the product wholesale and serve as a small (but inarguable) victory to the worst kinds of people who were praying on its downfall from the jump for shitty, toxic reasons.

You all can say "this is the Era bubble at work" all you want and to some extent, maybe, but the "era bubble" here was also one of the only places that actually gave the game itself a chance, for better or worse. I made the damn OT, I know for a fact that there were a few dozen people on this site that were passionate and happy about the game and hopeful about its future if it could get out in front of actual players. At the same time, we had, what, four threads about how Concord was the flop of the century? It was doomed to fail because people on the internet — the few people that were aware of the game's existence — had decided its fate before it even released. We're just seeing that all play out now.

So yeah, again, is it solely the fault of reactionaries that the game is dead? No. There are a lot of factors at play here. But why are we pretending that the fix wasn't already in from the start? Look up the game on YouTube. Visit its Discord. Check out its subreddit. There are no rational discussions being held about the game's poor general marketing strategy or releasing a hero shooter in a crowded market, it's "lol pronouns," "lol go woke, go broke" as far as the eye can see. Pretending it's not a factor in this game's death is asinine.

Basically admitting that The Chuds have sway over the minds of these people.  The Chuds can influence and enthrall Resetera with their Chud Logic.  If not, then more than 36 people would be playing the game worldwide, many of whom should be from Resetera.  But that isn't happening because Resetera is now full of Chud Energy.  No wonder tripocs are leaving in droves after being brainwashed by chuds.

[Boredfrom]

Yeah Dice seems to be actually talented, if only she wasn’t a deranged burqa bandit

She also seems like a decent person most of the time but then just comes off like a big hypocrite who is constantly posting in the burka thread while she also likes to draw bunny girls

I think it's more that her posting style isn't too inflammatory like the rest. She's not constantly openly buttmad like most of the other burka thread regulars.

But there's an insidious, passive aggressive undercurrent to her style. She'll say something that's a little fucked up in a way that sounds really casual and non-offensive, like "oof ouchies, smh I wish men weren't such rapist netherandals.... the world would be such a better place."

I think it's outright insane that she actually draws characters like Pyra, Mythra, Tifa, etc. when she always complains about them. If she's so replused by them, why draw them and try to sell them as pieces of art? I think it's just some weird jealously thing where she genuinely likes the characters but also gets really peeved whenever they have noticeable boobs or are sexualized in any way.

It sounds more like Messy “I don’t really care, it just to pretend to give a fuck to my online friends.”

[BIONIC]

It was the chuds. IT. WAS. THE. CHUDS!!!!

Every time the game was mentioned anywhere, without fail, it was shouted down by people saying some variety of "lol pronouns," "woke Guardians of the Galaxy," or, more generously, "who's going to pay $40 for a hero shooter?"

Is the alt-right backlash the sole trigger man here? Not by a long shot. The genre is crowded and too competitive to enter with a premium title, Sony's marketing approach didn't breach the dedicated gaming audience (most casual gamers don't watch State of Play showcases), and the game was more than a little derivative of other games in the space artistically.

Did it hurt that literally any and all discussion of the game was immediately drowned out by concern trolling, reactionary anti-woke sentiment and mockery? Yeah, kind of! And just like with The Acolyte — a show of an already "questionable" quality depending on who you asked — the chalice was so poisoned by online discourse and coordinated hate campaigns that anything other than a complete miracle was guaranteed to doom the product wholesale and serve as a small (but inarguable) victory to the worst kinds of people who were praying on its downfall from the jump for shitty, toxic reasons.

You all can say "this is the Era bubble at work" all you want and to some extent, maybe, but the "era bubble" here was also one of the only places that actually gave the game itself a chance, for better or worse. I made the damn OT, I know for a fact that there were a few dozen people on this site that were passionate and happy about the game and hopeful about its future if it could get out in front of actual players. At the same time, we had, what, four threads about how Concord was the flop of the century? It was doomed to fail because people on the internet — the few people that were aware of the game's existence — had decided its fate before it even released. We're just seeing that all play out now.

So yeah, again, is it solely the fault of reactionaries that the game is dead? No. There are a lot of factors at play here. But why are we pretending that the fix wasn't already in from the start? Look up the game on YouTube. Visit its Discord. Check out its subreddit. There are no rational discussions being held about the game's poor general marketing strategy or releasing a hero shooter in a crowded market, it's "lol pronouns," "lol go woke, go broke" as far as the eye can see. Pretending it's not a factor in this game's death is asinine.

I’ve written college papers that got ‘A’s that were shorter than this

[Propagandhim]

If Apex had dropped today, in today's climate, at a time when a bunch of super popular streamers (and an absolute shitload of players) weren't actively looking for a new BR to play, (and for $40, to boot), then it wouldn't take hold like it did back then - and you'd better believe that chuds would be moaning about it either way. The culture war shit isn't why this game bombed but it sure as shit is real lol

If Apex had dropped today, and if the game came out at a different saturation point in the market, and if it was priced at $40 instead of free, and it was released at a time that there were other BRs to play, and it was made by the people who did the Rugrats games, and it was called Mavis Bacon Teaches Typing, and it was the late 80s when there were people that still were bad at typing, and if the game was shitty at teaching typing, and it uninstalled system32, then the chuds would be moaning about it either way, and 37 more people from Resetera would've been able to play the game instead of being influenced and completely mentally compromised by the chuds, like Resetera is now.

[Uncle]

sees that concord has been shut down

goes to bore, sees that bore thread has 3 more pages

[Boredfrom]

Did it hurt that literally any and all discussion of the game was immediately drowned out by concern trolling, reactionary anti-woke sentiment and mockery? Yeah, kind of! And just like with The Acolyte — a show of an already "questionable" quality depending on who you asked — the chalice was so poisoned by online discourse and coordinated hate campaigns that anything other than a complete miracle was guaranteed to doom the product wholesale and serve as a small (but inarguable) victory to the worst kinds of people who were praying on its downfall from the jump for shitty, toxic reasons.

You know you don’t need to defend The Acolyte because the culture war? People mock the “woke” stuff because is the low hanging fruit and get people hyper defensive for stuff is not worth their time and effort.

But, if you sincerely enjoyed the game or that show, that’s fine but I think that rationalize being failures with “IS BECAUSE THE CHUDS” is exhausting mental wise.

I also get annoyed when everyone uses “woke” and “DEI” for short hand of stuff they don’t like, but you need to stop taking this shit personally.

[cRumB]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-32#post-128109888

It's funny how the same chuds you guys are complaining about are currently going after Deadlock because a few characters are gay and non-binary yet that campaign is falling completely flat on its face. Deadlock is still averaging 100k players daily. Almost like this shit doesn't matter except to a few terminally online losers in an echo chamber!

[HaughtyFrank]

Concord #1 fan SunnyD leaves us only these words

People fucking suck

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-32#post-128110158

[Nintex]

 

Hailey Supremacy. We did it gamergatin' chuds.  

$200 million down the drain. Sony should set-up a suicide hotline for the clowns that made it. The First Descendant ate their lunch and then some.

The people have chosen. 
Just another sign that people are done with everything woke and gay and we'll have a big victory in November   

Imagine the panic at Microsoft, who is probably knee deep into developing gay HALO and many other DEI studios.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-2#post-128099361

Everyone will see this as a failure, but this absolutely the right move. No one gets fired & the studio can figure what direction they need to head into.

[nachobro]

good thing that dude didn't get his wish of being able to pay $2000 for concord

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-32#post-128109888

It's funny how the same chuds you guys are complaining about are currently going after Deadlock because a few characters are gay and non-binary yet that campaign is falling completely flat on its face. Deadlock is still averaging 100k players daily. Almost like this shit doesn't matter except to a few terminally online losers in an echo chamber!

Nice try, chuddie. But I saw that one thread in the steam forum of that game bitching about Sweet Baby Inc.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-2#post-128099361

Everyone will see this as a failure, but this absolutely the right move. No one gets fired & the studio can figure what direction they need to head into.

People should get fired for this, if anything.

[Averon]

Did it hurt that literally any and all discussion of the game was immediately drowned out by concern trolling, reactionary anti-woke sentiment and mockery? Yeah, kind of! And just like with The Acolyte — a show of an already "questionable" quality depending on who you asked — the chalice was so poisoned by online discourse and coordinated hate campaigns that anything other than a complete miracle was guaranteed to doom the product wholesale and serve as a small (but inarguable) victory to the worst kinds of people who were praying on its downfall from the jump for shitty, toxic reasons.

You know you don’t need to defend The Acolyte because the culture war? People mock the “woke” stuff because is the low hanging fruit and get people hyper defensive for stuff is not worth their time and effort.

But, if you sincerely enjoyed the game or that show, that’s fine but I think that rationalize being failures with “IS BECAUSE THE CHUDS” is exhausting mental wise.

I also get annoyed when everyone uses “woke” and “DEI” for short hand of stuff they don’t like, but you need to stop taking this shit personally.

These people are completely engulfed in the culture war bullshit just as much as any "chud" they obsess over. Just look at the TERF Bitch Joanne hate thread and their constant need to know what the "chuds" think over almost any piece of media as proof. Simple, easy-to-understand explanations as to why things happen the way they do goes over their heads.

Concord didn't die because of the "chuds." It died because it entered a flooded market where characters and gameplay needed to be compelling and topnotch to stand out, and Concord failed that in all regards. If Concord had that, then no amount of bitching from the "chuds" would have prevented its success.

[HaughtyFrank]

If Apex had dropped today, in today's climate, at a time when a bunch of super popular streamers (and an absolute shitload of players) weren't actively looking for a new BR to play, (and for $40, to boot), then it wouldn't take hold like it did back then - and you'd better believe that chuds would be moaning about it either way. The culture war shit isn't why this game bombed but it sure as shit is real lol

If Apex had dropped today, and if the game came out at a different saturation point in the market, and if it was priced at $40 instead of free, and it was released at a time that there were other BRs to play, and it was made by the people who did the Rugrats games, and it was called Mavis Bacon Teaches Typing, and it was the late 80s when there were people that still were bad at typing, and if the game was shitty at teaching typing, and it uninstalled system32, then the chuds would be moaning about it either way, and 37 more people from Resetera would've been able to play the game instead of being influenced and completely mentally compromised by the chuds, like Resetera is now.

The Apex legends designers also don't go full Burka thread on character designs. That's in fact how they created Loba because they noticed that completely excluding any sexual woman also isn't diverse

"Loba was created by Tom Casiello. He was influenced by the women he worked with on WWE, who wanted to be equal to, but different from, men. When he saw the lineup of female characters, he noticed an "erasure" of sexuality in their designs and designed Loba to be a woman who likes to look good. He pitched the character and it gathered support among the female employees of Respawn Entertainment. He intended Loba to be a character that women would "own" and would want to be.[2]"

btw. IIRC this was posted some years ago in the Burka thread they were of course mad about it

[nachobro]

jesus christ. that korea game looks like shit but they aren't fucking around over there

Imagine the panic at Microsoft, who is probably knee deep into developing gay HALO and many other DEI studios.

dutchposting

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-5#post-128100264
Pedo Jarmel

This is going to cost them MORE money than the actual sales in of themselves to do these refunds.

What the fuck. Do you really need to take the servers offline to pivot to a Free To Play format?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-6#post-128100519

And a random few people out there were calling the discussion of this game "grave dancing". This shit is unprecedented.

Well it shouldn't be celebrated. A failed game isn't hilarious.

A failed game by a horrible developer maybe but not people just trying to put food on the table.

[Nintex]

jesus christ. that korea game looks like shit but they aren't fucking around over there

Imagine the panic at Microsoft, who is probably knee deep into developing gay HALO and many other DEI studios.

dutchposting

We've arrived at a point where average Korean Gacha slop is better designed than western AAAA+ releases.
The mission design in The First Descendant is better than what I've seen in some recent titles.

Although you have to play the same mission 400 fucking times to get Hailey

[BananaBlast]

"A failed game isn't hilarious" bitch they were all greatly anticipating the downfall of hogwarts legacy...

...Until it succeeded with flying colors, right after the game got banned in full so all discussion towards it was silenced like the commie-fascist zoo Ree is 

Also incoming new ban reason: Gravedancing

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-6#post-128100519

And a random few people out there were calling the discussion of this game "grave dancing". This shit is unprecedented.

Well it shouldn't be celebrated. A failed game isn't hilarious.

A failed game by a horrible developer maybe but not people just trying to put food on the table.

A failed game by a horrible developer maybe but not people just trying to put food on the table.

Why are they treating this like an indie game. An Indie dev depends on the big payout once the game finally launches. The Concord devs got handsomely paid by Sony for 8 years creating a game nobody wanted.

I'm sure the people who weren't directly responsible for the bad decisions will be fine (or I guess have the same difficulty as other devs right now)

[nachobro]

We've arrived at a point where average Korean Gacha slop is better designed than western AAAA+ releases.
The mission design in The First Descendant is better than what I've seen in some recent titles.

Although you have to play the same mission 400 fucking times to get Hailey

yeah fuck that, i don't want a million korean style mmos the ass is fat tho

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-6#post-128100519

And a random few people out there were calling the discussion of this game "grave dancing". This shit is unprecedented.

Well it shouldn't be celebrated. A failed game isn't hilarious.

A failed game by a horrible developer maybe but not people just trying to put food on the table.

Says the people who cheered and hoped for Stellar Blade, Hogwart's Legacy, and recently Blackmyth Wukong's failure

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/investors-seems-very-dissapointed-about-star-wars-outlaws-sales-numbers.970842/page-2

Ubi makes really good games,

[TylenolJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th.970872/page-6#post-128100519

And a random few people out there were calling the discussion of this game "grave dancing". This shit is unprecedented.

Well it shouldn't be celebrated. A failed game isn't hilarious.

A failed game by a horrible developer maybe but not people just trying to put food on the table.

How do they know they aren’t a terrible developer? Has anyone been going through every tweet the employees made? Plenty of time to do that now that the game is dead.