Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[DJ Bedroom]

If anyone out there somehow still had doubts Era is hardcore Sony, those two Concord threads should put those doubts to rest once and for all, especially the OT. 

I’ve never seen a game that was critically panned like Concord was get THIS level of a defense force over there. Where was this energy for Redfall last year? Can probably go back and find some of the exact same posters that were dancing on that games grave suddenly melting down just because it says Sony when you boot the game up. 

This wasn’t some critical darling that gamers rejected this hard, it was a game with some of the worst reviews of the year.

There's a significant amount of dudes over there who work overtime trying to convince people that The Order and Days Gone are masterpieces. At least with Xbots, Redfall came and went. No one's holding a candle for that one.

[PogiJones]

Also, I think identity politics on the back end is a lot more damaging than identity politics in the product itself. Superficial virtue signaling is eyeroll worthy, but for a product to be this unappealing, you have to hire bad employees, probably because you're not hiring based on merit. How did such incredibly unappealing character designs get made, and then approved, and then no one else at the company noticed how terrible the designs were?

[Uncle]

Also, I think identity politics on the back end is a lot more damaging than identity politics in the product itself. Superficial virtue signaling is eyeroll worthy, but for a product to be this unappealing, you have to hire bad employees, probably because you're not hiring based on merit.

this is why even if grummz sometimes seems overly attached or angry, the things he and his audience signal boost are informative and worth taking note of, like "hey here's this normal-looking game but it feels like there's something off about it, oh look here's a buried interview from 5 months ago where the studio head said all whites should kill themselves"

[TylenolJones]

It is an excellent video game.

One of the very best ever made.

alright bro must be a troll

Did you even play the game Chud?

Isn’t it more likely Sony realized they published the greatest multiplayer game of all time and realized it would cannibalize their other multiplayer games since Concord is too good and decided to stop the game before it got to big?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

this thread needs trigger warnings for self harm.

[ClothedMac]

The one time Nepenthe acknowledges a reasonable explanation to explain away grievance that she'd otherwise embrace in any other context is for a game she didn't play because she's already dedicated to a different Hero Shooter.

Banned for dismissing concerns of, whatever, but it's clearly dismissive. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sports-gambling-ot.971247/

Hi! Welcome to the Sports Betting OT!

LOCKED

B-Dubs

We were asked about one of these in the past and had said we were uncomfortable hosting such a thing and that has not changed.

 aka, corporate doesn't have their fingers in that pie so it must be suppressed. 

Yeah Dice seems to be actually talented, if only she wasn’t a deranged burqa bandit

We should pull move where you pay the artist to make horrible art they disagree with and see how far you can get them to bend their soul.  Or pay them to never do art again like the newspaper magnate in The Fountainhead.  God, that book was high camp.  









It's fascism to not like this game!
Mods:  Please report all incidences of non-good thought so it may be actioned properly

[Nintex]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/jake-paul-signs-hawk-tuah-girl-after-spotted-in-mma-sparing-session/ar-AA1pWfz0?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Jake Paul signs 'Hawk Tuah girl'

Time to bump the thread to cancel her again. When this was first posted, the op was positive. Then there was a rumor she was a Trump supporter. Reee "Oh my God I hate her" Then it was found out that wasn't true and she didn't like Trump. Reeee "Oh my God I love her" Well now she's with Jake Paul.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-ya%E2%80%99ll-seen-this-%E2%80%9Chawk-tuah%E2%80%9D-meme.909075/

listen even if someone says they don't like trump, something is seriously wrong with them and their vibe if you would totally believe that they like trump

really suspicious that someone would just go around like "oh ha ha I don't like trump" in spite of being the exact kind of person who would

keep both eyes open, friends

ngl hawk tuah girl is way too chill in media appearances and at big events on stage for someone from a smol town who 'allegedly' became internet famous by accident and uses that money to open animal shelters.

You can't really go toe to toe with someone like Bill Maher without any sort of experience or media training. Unless she is some kind of Trump-like natural talent I'm starting to think this was a planned viral thing to add an influencer to the Jake Paul roster and its not all 'organic'.

[Boredfrom]

Also, I think identity politics on the back end is a lot more damaging than identity politics in the product itself. Superficial virtue signaling is eyeroll worthy, but for a product to be this unappealing, you have to hire bad employees, probably because you're not hiring based on merit. How did such incredibly unappealing character designs get made, and then approved, and then no one else at the company noticed how terrible the designs were?

A lot of them probably did, but they probably were shut down by their peers or some clueless executive (that didn’t get in the top by DEI (neither merit  )).

Like the Dustborn dude, the leadership was probably clueless in that aspect. Many people have said that the game is not terrible per se, but not fun enough to overcome the barrier of “this guys look like dogshit” for 40 dollars.

[Boredfrom]

this is why even if grummz…

Nah.

Grummz is a grifter at this point.

[railGUN]

Whenever REE is totally wrong, it’s the chuds. It’s always the chuds. 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th-check-staff-post.970872/page-9#post-128101131
BossAttack

You won Internet, but at what cost?

[BananaBlast]

this is why even if grummz…

Nah.

Grummz is a grifter at this point.

Yeah I started to realize grummz was a grifter when he started that cringeworthy "boycott stellar blade" petition over censorship.

Like I'm all for Stellar Blade and it's based horniness, but trying to boycott an entire game because of some micro-inches of skin being edited out? Come on dude. Most of the sexy costumes didn't even get "censored", so there was nothing to really be upset about.

And then when they added new costumes for free, which were recolors of the old "censored" costumes, he pretended to claim his petition did something.

[Boredfrom]

Also, being totally fair, I can see how a lot of this characters working better in 2D art and in Visual style that don’t go semi realistic. A lot of stuff could have worked with better direction or, like discussed some days ago, with “our kind of asshole” telling others what was not working. 

They wanted to go with a retro 80 sci fi theme that doesn’t work with the actual visual direction of the game and their writing is just Great Value James Gunn (and he has a writing style that is incredible difficult to pull off without sounding corny to begin with).

[JoeBoy101]

If anyone out there somehow still had doubts Era is hardcore Sony, those two Concord threads should put those doubts to rest once and for all, especially the OT. 

I’ve never seen a game that was critically panned like Concord was get THIS level of a defense force over there. Where was this energy for Redfall last year? Can probably go back and find some of the exact same posters that were dancing on that games grave suddenly melting down just because it says Sony when you boot the game up. 

This wasn’t some critical darling that gamers rejected this hard, it was a game with some of the worst reviews of the year.

There's a significant amount of dudes over there who work overtime trying to convince people that The Order and Days Gone are masterpieces. At least with Xbots, Redfall came and went. No one's holding a candle for that one.

Hey, Days Gone is awesome! I wouldn't call it a masterpiece but its way better than the reviews, which I think reviewers were docking because the protagonist looked like a biker CHUD Trump voter.

Which of course, pans out the other direction in the game's story.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th-check-staff-post.970872/page-9#post-128101131
BossAttack

You won Internet, but at what cost?

Uppercase I Internet? BossAttack must be a Kiwifarms supporter.

[Tucker's Law]

this is why even if grummz…

Nah.

Grummz is a grifter at this point.

Yeah I started to realize grummz was a grifter when he started that cringeworthy "boycott stellar blade" petition over censorship.

Like I'm all for Stellar Blade and it's based horniness, but trying to boycott an entire game because of some micro-inches of skin being edited out? Come on dude. Most of the sexy costumes didn't even get "censored", so there was nothing to really be upset about.

And then when they added new costumes for free, which were recolors of the old "censored" costumes, he pretended to claim his petition did something.

Nah, it wasn't a boycott of the game but instead a "boycott" of them censoring their own game.  Whether it had any actual impact with the developers is entirely debatable, but fighting against this DEI/BRIDGE shit is a completely worthy cause IMO.  This pernicious and parasitic ideology relies on the well-intentioned compromise of small concessions to build a bulwark inside and start killing from within; our lack of widespread cultural pushback is in part what has allowed for things to get as bad as they've become, when instead we should be calling out and organizing against these practices from the outset (just like we should've with things like horse armor).

[Boredfrom]

Choosing your battles and pull out when you are wining is a lost skill.

[JoeBoy101]

Now we know why Firewalk Studios is shutting the servers down
Elyian

Kinda wish I bought this day 1 instead of holding off on a sale now. This game was genuinely fun when I tried it in the beta, even with some of the issues I had, like the floaty movement and incredibly high TTK. Sucks extra hard cause watching Mila Jam(The actress for Bazz) talk about this game so passionately, and how proud she was to show representation as one of the first black trans woman headlining in a big AAA first party title like this, was super heartwarming to see. Really makes all this sting way more.

Okay, I love Cyberpunk so I'm fine and happy with trans characters in my game. But in no goddamn way is the character on the left indicative of the woman on the right. Its not even slightly close. Aside from skin color it doesn't suggest her at all. Was she just VA? Thats the only way it makes sense.

[DocWager]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th-check-staff-post.970872/page-9#post-128101131
BossAttack

You won Internet, but at what cost?

Uppercase I Internet? BossAttack must be a Kiwifarms supporter.

This is his mask off moment.

[Uncle]

this is why even if grummz…

Nah.

Grummz is a grifter at this point.

...did you not mostly agree with me last time? that he points out legit issues but you just don't like the back-and-forth?

when someone signal boosts these legitimate issues repeatedly and is consistently right about them, it's time to re-evaluate your stance

they hated him because he spoke the truth

My stance is mostly the same. I just don’t think that playing the video game culture war  PR game is worth it.

[JoeBoy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-sales-ceasing-immediately-offering-refunds-to-all-customers-the-game-will-be-taken-offline-beginning-sept-6th-check-staff-post.970872/page-9#post-128101131
BossAttack

You won Internet, but at what cost?

Is he asking non-ironically? Because if not, I'd love to hear what HE thinks the cost is. Aside from the cost Sony paid that is. As far as I can tell, the 'I'nternet didn't pay a cost, they're get refunded it.

[DJ Bedroom]

If anyone out there somehow still had doubts Era is hardcore Sony, those two Concord threads should put those doubts to rest once and for all, especially the OT. 

I’ve never seen a game that was critically panned like Concord was get THIS level of a defense force over there. Where was this energy for Redfall last year? Can probably go back and find some of the exact same posters that were dancing on that games grave suddenly melting down just because it says Sony when you boot the game up. 

This wasn’t some critical darling that gamers rejected this hard, it was a game with some of the worst reviews of the year.

There's a significant amount of dudes over there who work overtime trying to convince people that The Order and Days Gone are masterpieces. At least with Xbots, Redfall came and went. No one's holding a candle for that one.

Hey, Days Gone is awesome! I wouldn't call it a masterpiece but its way better than the reviews, which I think reviewers were docking because the protagonist looked like a biker CHUD Trump voter.

Which of course, pans out the other direction in the game's story.

The zombies are called "freakers."

[Boredfrom]

Now we know why Firewalk Studios is shutting the servers down
Elyian

Okay, I love Cyberpunk so I'm fine and happy with trans characters in my game. But in no goddamn way is the character on the left indicative of the woman on the right. Its not even slightly close. Aside from skin color it doesn't suggest her at all. Was she just VA? Thats the only way it makes sense.

I think is just VA? Pink news is not exactly reliable to begin with and you know TransERA would have said something if this was the actual case.

[Boredfrom]

this is why even if grummz…

Nah.

Grummz is a grifter at this point.

...did you not mostly agree with me last time? that he points out legit issues but you just don't like the back-and-forth?

when someone signal boosts these legitimate issues repeatedly and is consistently right about them, it's time to re-evaluate your stance

they hated him because he spoke the truth

My stance is mostly the same. I just don’t think that playing the video game culture war  PR game is worth it.

Did I say he wasn’t a grifter idiot?   I said that my stance was mostly the same as YOU, not about if signal boosting stuff was useful or not (it doesn’t when it comes from a dude like Kern, precisely for being unable to be liked beyond his niche audience).

My dude, you are going to get hurt by this guy.

[Tucker's Law]

this is why even if grummz…

Nah.

Grummz is a grifter at this point.

...did you not mostly agree with me last time? that he points out legit issues but you just don't like the back-and-forth?

when someone signal boosts these legitimate issues repeatedly and is consistently right about them, it's time to re-evaluate your stance

they hated him because he spoke the truth

My stance is mostly the same. I just don’t think that playing the video game culture war  PR game is worth it.

If I had to guess, they are heavily influenced by or just prima facie buy into whatever is posted negatively about the guy (who admittedly doesn't post all winners) by all the trooned-out haters without even checking up on it first.

[Uncle]

Choosing your battles and pull out when you are wining is a lost skill.

complacency and continual acceptance/retreat is what got us to this point

it's cringe to talk emotionally about a war but there is good reason to defend things you like as you like them, and make efforts to keep them that way

[Boredfrom]

Nah.

Grummz is a grifter at this point.

...did you not mostly agree with me last time? that he points out legit issues but you just don't like the back-and-forth?

My stance is mostly the same. I just don’t think that playing the video game culture war  PR game is worth it.

If I had to guess, they are heavily influenced by or just prima facie buy into whatever is posted negatively about the guy (who admittedly doesn't post all winners) by all the trooned-out haters without even checking up on it first.

Just like Elon Musk.  Or Nick Rekieta.

[kaleidoscopium]

In such a funk right now. I've been struggling for months to find a game that could hold my attention, then it lands in my lap only to just be ephemeral.

Additionally, the entire discourse around this game has utterly destroyed the few vestiges of goodwill I had for this site. So many people are just so damn performative.
- People don't want layoffs, but they want entire studios to disappear because they didn't like a game
- People want diversity, but only if those characters are fuckable
- People say gameplay is king, then proclaim the jankiest fucking nonsense as the best thing ever and ignore legitimately great playing games
- People hate battle pass and microtransaction culture but won't pay for a mid-priced game

It wouldn't be so bad if people were just like "well the game's not for me", but instead it's just constant punching down on every single fucking thing they don't like, and I'm just so fucking done with it. It's just brain rot toxicity and it's making us all worse people because of it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-ot-calling-all-freeguners-game-being-shut-down-sep-6th-check-threadmarks.957465/page-65#post-128130774

[Uncle]

My dude, you are going to get hurt by this guy.

you attach way too much meaning to the most innocuous things, I'm not a follower, worshipping and groveling at his feet, I take as much stock in everything as it deserves

he points out more worthwhile things that are important to be signal boosted than he does cringeworthy things (and it's also cringeworthy to base your entire life around what is cringe or not)

how am I supposed to get hurt? he convinces me not to buy a game and I don't buy it, but really I should've bought that game all along, oh no??

[BananaBlast]

Nah, it wasn't a boycott of the game but instead a "boycott" of them censoring their own game.  Whether it had any actual impact with the developers is entirely debatable, but fighting against this DEI/BRIDGE shit is a completely worthy cause IMO.  This pernicious and parasitic ideology relies on the well-intentioned compromise of small concessions to build a bulwark inside and start killing from within; our lack of widespread cultural pushback is in part what has allowed for things to get as bad as they've become, when instead we should be calling out and organizing against these practices from the outset (just like we should've with things like horse armor).

Yeah makes sense, since I also did forget to mention the protest was more aimed at Sony's censorship and bullying, not at the game itself.

But I still think grummz was grifting, is a grifter overall, claimed credit for something that the devs probably had no idea even existed, and the optics of the boycott were plain horrible, since it was very easy for the leftist pro-censorship crowd to spin it as angry virgin chuds upset that digital titties were being 7.5% more covered up. And unfortunately, they mostly succeeded in that narrative.

(the nerds sending in videos of their greasy unwashed faces declaring support for the petition really didn't help anyone's case either)