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[books]

I was at jury duty today and some of the folks spouting their creedos would fit right into Reesetera. One chick kept going on about ACAB, but the question was something else.

What's wrong with getting out of a little jury duty

They kept her!!!

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

[almostheathen]

77 bpm, that's some work out champ.

I'd like to see you maintain that level of strain for 8 and a half minutes.

12 ounces arm curls gets me to like 75 so i'm half way there.

[remy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-reveals-star-wars-show-%E2%80%98the-acolyte%E2%80%99-was-over-budget-at-230-million-without-tax-benefits.993816/post-129359517

Crossing Eden
It doesn't look like a low budget sci-fi show. This could easily be a scene from a SW movie.

Eden has to be joking, right? Movie quality? The fuck are they smoking? That could be a scene from any trash sci-fi TV show.

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for four fuxking minutes straight
whole thing inexplicably dark as fuck with crushed contrast

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/inside-gaming-sony-doubled-the-price-of-hzd-complete-edition-19-99-to-39-99-on-ps-store-after-remaster-announcement.993348/page-8#post-129355794
Valkaria

You see we want a sustainable gaming industry, we want job safety, but we also want loopholes to pay less than what the game is valued at.

Flame Lord

I'm sure that extra $20 was for the workers.

Valkaria

Ah my bad, you're right. In fact I heard the Guerilla Games developers actually work for free.

[ComeAgain]

Tbf, the actual outrage is probably small to non-existent.

Like, who is truly mad about this? People who wanted to play and buy HZD, but for some reason didn't do that for the past 7 years, even though it had steep sales, and also didn't even bother to claim it literally for free when it was in the Play at Home initiative?

So yeah, the people who are mad at this are the ones who like to be mad about stuff. And they probably don't even care about HZD and never wanted to buy or play it anyway.

Non-issue. You could argue a better approach would be gating the upgrade by key purchase/activation date, but that's so finicky.

Ultimately, a $10 upgrade is more consumer-friendly than not. And the tradeoff is that people who had 4-7 years to buy this game and did not can't buy it today at steep discount. It's.... really not a big deal.

Ok so you don't have any idea how business work and think that horizon money continues pumping into gorilla for perpetuity based on previous sales, and all future content should be released at a price dictated by what you feel is a reasonable price irregardless of the time and money spent creating it.

This game is 7 years old. It has reached all the people it could possibly reach. Investing money to bring it up to date for new console sales needs to have a reasonable return.

120 million ps4 sales, 60+ million ps5 sales.

If the price is too much for you, just do what resetera does every time a game gets released:

Wait for a sale.

I really don't see the big deal, really.

People who wanted Horizon Zero Dawn had 7 years to buy it. 5 of those at a 20€ price point. 1 of those for fucking free.

And now that the remaster is coming and everyone one wants to be cheeky and save money outrage is at hand. The only ones affected are PS4 only owners that might, for some reason, want the game now after a million years.

Cmon. You're really innocent if you think any company is just going to discount you a new game just because.

Era, they totally hate corporations though. How the fuck do they not see what they are doing!? That last one is the best because the idiot thinks a game from 2017 is a new game.

[books]

What's the deal with Valkaria? Acting like a main character midseason.

[ComeAgain]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/inside-gaming-sony-doubled-the-price-of-hzd-complete-edition-19-99-to-39-99-on-ps-store-after-remaster-announcement.993348/page-8#post-129355794
Valkaria

You see we want a sustainable gaming industry, we want job safety, but we also want loopholes to pay less than what the game is valued at.

Flame Lord

I'm sure that extra $20 was for the workers.

Valkaria

Ah my bad, you're right. In fact I heard the Guerilla Games developers actually work for free.

Best part is Valkaria crying about being called a corporate bootlicker while spending pages 4-9 being a corporate bootlicker.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/inside-gaming-sony-doubled-the-price-of-hzd-complete-edition-19-99-to-39-99-on-ps-store-after-remaster-announcement.993348/page-9#post-129357024

For real. People in here are being straight up corporate mouthpieces that are using workers as a pedestal to run defense for shitty business practices.

Valkaria

Or they are people who actually stand by their beliefs when it comes to workers in the gaming industry, rather than just posturing whenever there are layoffs, then going into other threads calling people "corporate mouthpieces" and "fanboys" whenever they don't dogpile on certain companies over absolutely anything.

Love the derailing 

[benji]

I was at jury duty today and some of the folks spouting their creedos would fit right into Reesetera. One chick kept going on about ACAB, but the question was something else.

What's wrong with getting out of a little jury duty

They kept her!!!

It's not that crazy if you're trying to judge if this person is an independent thinker or not. They're betting on the social pressure of the courtroom and juryroom group dynamics to bypass a weak belief she is performing with the clear intent of getting dismissed.

But I get tossed because when they got to me I was the first person to say that no, I would not accept just witness testimony as the sole evidence because anyone could say anything and then the people after me suddenly all started saying they'd need more evidence too. Then I sealed the deal by later saying I wouldn't accept witness testimony if it sounded implausible while nobody else could come up with reasons to do so. But to be fair they probably had already marked me and the Black woman law professor for their two free dismissals from the start when they asked the job/education/etc. question.

[ComeAgain]

Its not the same game. It’s not the same content.

????

It’s the first main game plus the Frozen Wilds DLC with graphics closer to Forbidden West. The fuck are they talking about??

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

What's the deal with Valkaria? Acting like a main character midseason.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

What's wrong with getting out of a little jury duty

They kept her!!!

It's not that crazy if you're trying to judge if this person is an independent thinker or not. They're betting on the social pressure of the courtroom and juryroom group dynamics to bypass a weak belief she is performing with the clear intent of getting dismissed.

But I get tossed because when they got to me I was the first person to say that no, I would not accept just witness testimony as the sole evidence because anyone could say anything and then the people after me suddenly all started saying they'd need more evidence too. Then I sealed the deal by later saying I wouldn't accept witness testimony if it sounded implausible while nobody else could come up with reasons to do so. But to be fair they probably had already marked me and the Black woman law professor for their two free dismissals from the start when they asked the job/education/etc. question.

Benji wouldn't be willing to take POLICE TESTIMONY only as proof?! He needs EVIDENCE?!

 Lock em up boys!

[benji]

It was worse than that, I convinced half the jury pool with a single sentence. The seven people before me had all said "yes" that it was enough evidence for them, even that woman law professor. That was way too dangerous to risk when they were thinking they were going to get a jury to convict the Black dude for rape or whatever it was on testimony alone. 

[benji]

Little did they know that from watching the defendant while we were doing everything I had judged he was likely guilty, strong chud gamer vibes, plus he was male and they're the worst.

[BananaBlast]

Wow this thread moves super fast.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/horizon-zero-dawn-remastered-announced-october-31-2024-to-ps5-pc-10-upgrade-up-sony-doubles-original-ps4-pc-digital-price-from-20-to-40.990792/page-16#post-129252660

  User Banned (1 Month): Misogynistic Rhetoric; History of Inflammatory Commentary

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they hired fans

Burka thread member going down, you love to see it

I agree .....but that ban makes no sense at all. Others have said that same joke, as the "hire fans" a leftist gamer circlejerk approved meme. It's even been said in the burka thread several times before.

[benji]

Also his public defenders looked like Obadiah Stane and Kenny G so I was ready to give him the death penalty.

[Uncle]

It's not that crazy if you're trying to judge if this person is an independent thinker or not. They're betting on the social pressure of the courtroom and juryroom group dynamics to bypass a weak belief she is performing with the clear intent of getting dismissed.

But I get tossed because when they got to me I was the first person to say that no, I would not accept just witness testimony as the sole evidence because anyone could say anything and then the people after me suddenly all started saying they'd need more evidence too. Then I sealed the deal by later saying I wouldn't accept witness testimony if it sounded implausible while nobody else could come up with reasons to do so. But to be fair they probably had already marked me and the Black woman law professor for their two free dismissals from the start when they asked the job/education/etc. question.

you didn't just loudly start explaining what jury nullification means to the entire room?

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/inside-gaming-sony-doubled-the-price-of-hzd-complete-edition-19-99-to-39-99-on-ps-store-after-remaster-announcement.993348/page-8#post-129355794
Valkaria

You see we want a sustainable gaming industry, we want job safety, but we also want loopholes to pay less than what the game is valued at.

Flame Lord

I'm sure that extra $20 was for the workers.

Valkaria

Ah my bad, you're right. In fact I heard the Guerilla Games developers actually work for free.

This would also justify them charging current owners $20 to keep the game in their libraries.

[benji]

you didn't just loudly start explaining what jury nullification means to the entire room?

Unlike noodlesoup I am not interested in being charged with contempt of court.

I mean, I made $37 because we went past noon! Gabe wouldn't forgive me if I forfeit it!

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

When have bans made sense on resetera? 

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

you didn't just loudly start explaining what jury nullification means to the entire room?

Unlike noodlesoup I am not interested in being charged with contempt of court.

I mean, I made $37 because we went past noon! Gabe wouldn't forgive me if I forfeit it!

I'm waiting for the next Noodlesoup update. Where's our experts? 

[BananaBlast]

When have bans made sense on resetera? 

Yeah, I left out "even for resetera standards"

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Chumunga64's name was on the hit list. He knows what he did.  

3 mods sign off on every ban. 

[benji]

When have bans made sense on resetera? 

Yeah, I left out "even for resetera standards"

If you knew what staff did you would understand. The stuff that keeps them up at night, staring into the night sky with their thoughts.

[Potato]

That the actual number in the study is 7% to 72%, and not 72%, but that would be downplaying genocide in a sensitive thread.

Do better Erin

this ALWAYS happens

like fuck, do they want people to stop trusting "experts" and "science?"

I didn't even look into this one further because I knew the other shoe was going to drop and we'd find out the number was wrong

I don't want to have to be mistrusting of such studies! now I have to doubt every single one because no one can be honest about them!

TBF, exaggerating the % in the title comes from serious journalist Erin Reid, not the study itself. As for the study, I have little doubt that its methodology is less than ideal considering it's done by an advocacy group (Trevor Project) and not scientists who don't skin in the game. So the question is why Nature and similar journals are publishing studies by activists? Well, for one thing, it was not published in actual "Nature", but in its social sciences cousin "Nature Human Behaviour". It was "peer reviewed" by one identified person (and maybe "other, anonymous, reviewer(s)"), and look at the bio:

Dr... is an Assistant Professor of Public Health Education at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. Her work focuses on stigma and the health of sexual and gender minority communities in the United States and other global settings, with a particular focus on the health of transgender and other gender-diverse people.

These shit studies never survive even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

[benji]

If we lived in a reasonable and respectful world, different nations would come together to stop this bloodshed. But nah, all do the western nations want Israel to tear through the Middle East to shore up land and amass more power.

What I hate most about all this is how incredibly brazen Israel is about it. They know they can get away with this. This is so fucking shameful.

I could be misreading the bigger picture, but I see the biggest problem in the way of stopping it is that the parties directly involved aren't interested in co-existing.

That's quite a thing to say to a US backed power that has been committing apartheid and ethnic cleansing for the last 50 years.

Doesn't this conflict date back to the 1920-1940's with Jews and Arabs fighting over the land? The UN (previously League of Nations) voted for a two-state solution, with Jewish leaders accepting it but Arab leaders rejected it. Unable to resolve the conflict between the two over that span of time, the UN backed out, leaving Jewish leaders to declare statehood. Then several Arab states attacked.

Both sides have contributed to the fight and it has been going on for roughly 100 years. I do believe Israel has a right to defend itself, but there should be some checks and balances to continue being supported in that aim.

It is sad to think that innocent people have to live through it and a peaceful resolution seems unlikely anytime soon.

Damn we still have people in here repeating "Israel has a right to defend itself". Great stuff. Really cool, thanks.

It's pathetic

Kind of omitting a lot of key details there.

Do you also see the historic genocide of Native Americans as a "both sides" problem because some tribes violently refused to accept US colonialism and land theft without their input?

Even setting that aside, how do crimes 100 years ago justify genocide and state terrorism today?

It's not either Arab countries commit genocide against Israel, or Israel commits genocide against Arab countries.

There should not be any genocide.

If you acknowledge that what Israel is doing is committing a genocide, the situation starts to become a lot clearer.

I mean, if you even bothered to engage with it just a little bit more , the riots happened specifically because of the Zionist project to immigrate into Palestine and claim it as a new nation state. It was a response to a foreign colonial project. The Balfour declaration. The UN vote was enforced by the imperial powers at the time, and no Arab nation could defy it, especially not the Palestinians. Why do you feel the need to mention Israel has the right to defend itself when I bring up apartheid?

It's wild to see that phrase said by anyone that isn't a politician. Even when politicians say it it sounds so automated and in authentic in that the phrase is never altered or conveyed in a unique way as people do naturally depending on their personal style of speaking. It's always said with the exact same structure and in an almost robotic a way. When I hear it or see it I actually get creeped out like I'm in a simulation lol. It's one of the worst talking points I've ever seen as it is used ad nauseam.

Maybe we need to start repeating it endlessly for Palestinians and Lebanese. They have a right to defend themselves.

Reminder:
In 2023, Israel seized more Palestinian land than in any given year in the past 30 years. Concurrently, it was also the highest level of Israeli settler violence in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, causing a record number of Palestinians to be displaced. [Link]
All governments, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) said, have a duty to stop transferring arms to Israel "where there are reasonable grounds to suspect that they may be used in the Occupied Palestinian Territory".
Beyond arms, the general assembly and ICJ require governments to take "steps to prevent trade or investment relations that assist in the maintenance of the illegal" occupation.
That's putting aside the abundant war crimes (the starvation or indiscriminate bombing in Gaza); the crime of apartheid throughout the occupied territory; and what Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and B'Tselem, among other organizations have documented (extensive abuses against detained Palestinians, including children, by Israeli authorities).

Actually, Israel has no right to defend itself, in fact Israel as an apratheid state has no right to exist and it's definitely not a both sides situation. This is typical Zionist talking points... both sides, there was a proposition but the bad Arabs didn't want to accept it, they hate us, they want to exterminate us, anti-simite and on and on and on.... It's getting to a point where i don't give a fuck anymore, i just want the aggression to stop !

Weird how you emphasize that Israel has a right to defend itself (which it arguably doesn't in occupied west bank and gaza) and not that the Palestinian people under military occupation has a right to armed struggle against the occupying force.

Good talk.

Also:

Netanyahu really taking advantage of this election huh? If Harris wins she better put the hammer down on them and remind them who is in charge.

 

Glad to see we have a totally serious not-troll poster who joined the welcoming bonfire:


And our German is continuing to make progress:

The worst part about how the West treats this conflict is that it make me not care about the Ukrain-conflict anymore. Why should I care about Ukraine when we let an evil aggressor murder so many people in the middle east? Because Ukraine is closer to us? Because we identify Russia as the bad guys, but are too coward to call out Israel as the bad guy they are?

Everytime I see politicians in talkshows arguing for more support for Ukraine, I'm like "ok, now DO THE SAME FOR GAZA! (and now Libanon, too)". But on the rare occasions anyone journalist even dares ask these politicians, they will without doubt bring up all the old bs-excuses: "B-but October 7th!!, "right to defend itself!" and "Staatsräson". It's complete evil madness. These people surely see the same videos of people in Gaza and Libanon being murdered, and yet they can ignore that and have the gall to keep pointing at the same few Israel people that got killed months ago - many of which would still be alive had Netanyahu accepted a deal that the USA created and Hamas had accepted.

As of right now, I will vote whichever party promises to oppose this blind support of Israel. One year until German elections ...

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

I wonder what Palestine was called before the Romans changed its name.. 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/valve-updates-the-steam-subscriber-agreement-now-disputes-should-move-forward-in-court-instead-of-arbitration-and-the-class-action-waiver-is-removed.993966/#post-129362451

When will Valve start eliminating communities of Nazis that flood this platform? It's getting worse and worse.

Valve hater

[benji]

They think Gabe is on the side of the Nazis yet they're again demanding a chud start banning people from a platforms/service (and access to games) for views the owner dislikes.