Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Averon]

Yeah. The market is what it is for better or for worse.

Not much to do other than shrug your shoulders and hope it doesn't happen to a favorite IP of yours.

This is exactly why there is a fight back against this. With this and Gamergate 2, they are attempting to make a full regressive push back on how games have moved forward. They want to make it so characters like Aloy, Abby, etc can no longer be created and every game and character will be like SB and Eve.

These are the people that make up the Burka Brigade. 

"Games like Stellar Blade needs to be banned or society will turn into a sexist hellscape again!"

This is their paranoid worldview.

[HaughtyFrank]

I would like to see an Akiyama solo game, preferably one that works to solve some of the more problematic aspects of his early character history.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-yakuza-like-a-dragon-characters-should-get-their-own-gaiden-side-game.832959/

I fucking beg you to have fun for goddamn once.

"Oh cool a Yakuza spin-off game, finally my favorite character can get time to shine they can address that character X said something problematic 12 years ago"

[benji]

They're turning these games into religious totems and standard hype cycles into occult rituals.

How do they take any of this seriously? The (((chuds))) are using one platform exclusive game and "Gamergate 2" (a small handful of people complaining about a single company?) to erase everything? What? How? Can any of them possibly explain any aspect of this? I'm so completely baffled at how they've made themselves believe this nonsense.

[benji]

Then the same exact people will post about how the chuds are irrelevant incel losers who don't have any impact on the industry and nobody listens to.

[HaughtyFrank]

This is exactly why there is a fight back against this. With this and Gamergate 2, they are attempting to make a full regressive push back on how games have moved forward. They want to make it so characters like Aloy, Abby, etc can no longer be created and every game and character will be like SB and Eve.

Exactly, this also applies to movies.

I believe a game like Stellar Blade can exist just fine as long as there are options with stronger portrayals.

But the stupid culture wants to use the failures of diverse projects (like Forspoken) and prop up the success of games as this to try and tell devs this is THE ONLY OPTION.

And I reject that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/post-121168122

Bruh, you're talking to people who think this game actively harms women and shouldn't exist

[Boredfrom]

This is exactly why there is a fight back against this. With this and Gamergate 2, they are attempting to make a full regressive push back on how games have moved forward. They want to make it so characters like Aloy, Abby, etc can no longer be created and every game and character will be like SB and Eve.

Exactly, this also applies to movies.

I believe a game like Stellar Blade can exist just fine as long as there are options with stronger portrayals.

But the stupid culture wants to use the failures of diverse projects (like Forspoken) and prop up the success of games as this to try and tell devs this is THE ONLY OPTION.

And I reject that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/post-121168122

Bruh, you're talking to people who think this game actively harms women and shouldn't exist

Half of those assholes are not reading those posts. 

They just hear “Stella Blade = Bad”

[clockwork5]

I don't know how the moderators can be this fucking stupid - I really can't, despite all fucking prior historical evidence - that they're just allowing a bunch of He/Hims from the whoreswhoreswhores thread to openly antagonise and brigade a thread on their own fucking forum.

Like, its not even the discord brigading we all know happens. Its right in the fucking open.

They are complicit, not stupid. Instead of outright banning games, because what would be left of the Gaming side if B-Dumbs allowed that to continue, they purposely let people like Kyuuji, Crossing Eden, and ComedySmasher to brigade and shit up any thread pertaining to the game in question, all the while ban baiting any members that express "too much" enthusiasm for the game. It's just a more roundabout way to control/shutdown discussion of the game. The next "best" thing than outright banning in their eyes.

I used to give them credit for applying this amount of forethought and tone-setting damage control to these "sensitive issues" but at this point I really think they just ban who they think it would be popular to ban and cross their fingers.

[Taco Bell Tower]

I'm guessing because it was/is supposed to be a hit. High profile Sony exclusive with a main character designed around appealing to male sex fantasies, at a time when they've spent years whining about how Aloy etc. look. Coupled with a CEO who basically admits he's designing it around keeping his dick up, it's basically a bullseye on wanting to annoy 'woke' people. Which is their entire existence outside of staring at jiggle physics and making sure people on twitter know they definitely have felt boobs before.

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It was straight up designed in every way to be a game championed by the Gamers of what games are "supposed to be about", backed by the misogynistic devs themselves. They want and need this to be a game that straight up eliminates "wokeness", characters like Abby, Aloy, etc, and Make Games Great Again™. Coinciding perfectly with the SBI/gamergate .5 movement.

Its been in development for more than 5 years you fucking morons, it has nothing to do with [MONTHLY HOT TOPIC]

edit:
although its SUPER FUCKING TELLING that recent hot button topic is fresh on YOUR minds when you decided to go fucking scorched earth on trying to get it banned

They were at it since it was known as Project Eve

[Averon]

I mean, these same people constantly tell men to watch porn/play porn games instead. How the hell does games like Stellar Blade run the "risk" of turning society into a sexist hell, but watching porn/playing porn games doesn't? Why isn't the Twitch cam shit you all support so much damaging to society?

They place far more importance/fear on digital tits and ass than to real life tits and ass like porn. I just don't understand how they can logically hold that view.

[benji]

1. Stellar Blade sells ten million copies and Sweet Baby Inc. goes out of business.
2. ?
3. Women are held in actual sex slavery.

[HaughtyFrank]

So first post here. Hi guys. I've read everything here and I really don't get the attention from all sides. I played the demo and preordered. The game is right up my alley. It's exploitative and I'm there for it. It also has decent gameplay which I feel backs the game up. There's tons of games where women look more realistic and proportioned. I like having that diversity and choice. Also speaking as a minority who understands what it's like to have a barrage of imaging aimed towards you, that does not represent you, "but does entertain others for reasons", I think women appreciate that diversity. Because it is one thing when the majority of female characters are there for the male gaze. You get tired of that and it's lazy. But I think there's been a lot of good progress, not everywhere because we're all still human and never changing, but enough that there's options. Even with more cartoon looking characters, there's options. Every cute girl isn't walking around with the Mai Shiranui physics.

But that's just me.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/post-121168356

Reasonable argument, didn't insult anyone but disagreed with the narrative?

 sleep well soldier

[benji]

It must have to be cultural. They're so ensconced in an echo chamber bubble where everything is immediately taken to 11, step eleven of genocide, that they just naturally try to come up with the most terrible thing that can be in any way connected to something they don't like. I don't like this. Why don't I like this? Well, it has to be the way women are portrayed because I really care about that as a strong lesbian and this offends me for not showing true lesbianism. Therefore this will harm all women and make it so every game is Custer's Revenge. Nobody will publish anything but Custer's Revenge type games created with AI. And then the flames will engulf all of us just as the white supremacists at Sony who signed off on Stellar Blade wanted.

I have no idea why I'm trying to out loud reason through this. I just so desperately need to understand.

[Averon]

So first post here. Hi guys. I've read everything here and I really don't get the attention from all sides. I played the demo and preordered. The game is right up my alley. It's exploitative and I'm there for it. It also has decent gameplay which I feel backs the game up. There's tons of games where women look more realistic and proportioned. I like having that diversity and choice. Also speaking as a minority who understands what it's like to have a barrage of imaging aimed towards you, that does not represent you, "but does entertain others for reasons", I think women appreciate that diversity. Because it is one thing when the majority of female characters are there for the male gaze. You get tired of that and it's lazy. But I think there's been a lot of good progress, not everywhere because we're all still human and never changing, but enough that there's options. Even with more cartoon looking characters, there's options. Every cute girl isn't walking around with the Mai Shiranui physics.

But that's just me.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/post-121168356

Reasonable argument, didn't insult anyone but disagreed with the narrative?

 sleep well soldier

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

[kaleidoscopium]

It’s now considered troll behavior to say the game looks good/demo was fun. Incredible 😂

[Besticus Maximus]

When I was in middle school, I was a feminist and a member of a socialist political party. Perhaps this is why I am, regrettably, not an internet anime lesbian.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-349?post=121150119#post-121150119

I think this is why so many women abandoned DOA (to the point men started to pretend women never liked or played the series). Women fans of that series liked these characters as characters, loved their personalities and playing as them but more and more it became clear that Team Ninja didn't feel the same, treating them more as dolls to sexualize for the pleasure of men and to sell DLC and this got more and more until it became to much and most of the women fans left the series. Why stay when what drew you in was lost.

First of all, Women didn't abandon DOA, everyone abandoned DOA. Not because of the characters being too sexy but because they kept adding micro transaction shit and the game's tech didn't manage to keep up with the competition.

Second: How fucking dumb do you have to be to claim that it's the chuds claiming that women never played DOA. IT'S THE ILK IN THE VERY THREAD YOUR POSTING IN WHO CLAIM THAT. 

Just an absolute brain damaged person

hey remember when they did that survey back in the day and discovered factually that 70% of all DOA players were actually women, counter to what you might expect

oh wait nothing like that ever happened? then how the fuck can anyone claim that "women loved DOA" in anything more substantial than random anecdotal evidence

[I don't swear]

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Ban the fucking game B-dubs you coward. 

If he does, he paints himself into a corner and allows the cabal of users from the women thread to cajole them into banning games they don't like... But that's kind of already happened? I don't see multiple options for him here.

[HaughtyFrank]

It must have to be cultural. They're so ensconced in an echo chamber bubble where everything is immediately taken to 11, step eleven of genocide, that they just naturally try to come up with the most terrible thing that can be in any way connected to something they don't like. I don't like this. Why don't I like this? Well, it has to be the way women are portrayed because I really care about that as a strong lesbian and this offends me for not showing true lesbianism. Therefore this will harm all women and make it so every game is Custer's Revenge. Nobody will publish anything but Custer's Revenge type games created with AI. And then the flames will engulf all of us just as the white supremacists at Sony who signed off on Stellar Blade wanted.

I have no idea why I'm trying to out loud reason through this. I just so desperately need to understand.

Would I be mad if MJ looks actually hot in Spider-man 3 and not like Peter is out of her league? Not one bit.
Do I expect this to happen because of Stellar Blade's likely success? lol no

[Averon]

1. Stellar Blade sells ten million copies and Sweet Baby Inc. goes out of business.
2. ?
3. Women are held in actual sex slavery.

Plagiarize: "But is it really sex slavery, though?"

[benji]

How do they take any of this seriously? The (((chuds))) are using one platform exclusive game and "Gamergate 2" (a small handful of people complaining about a single company?) to erase everything? What? How? Can any of them possibly explain any aspect of this? I'm so completely baffled at how they've made themselves believe this nonsense.

Oh, so you're saying the chuds aren't doing this when they openly post that they are?

[Shecky Fragbaum]

I liked the demo, highlights for me were the music on Eidos 7 and the boss fights. I definitely want to give the full game a go and experiment more with the equipment load-outs.

Speaking as a woman (because we are not a monolith like some are trying to imply) I don't mind "problematic" female protagonists in character action games like Nier Automata, Lollipop Chainsaw and Bayonetta, it barely even registers to me compared to the real-life misogyny I have experienced in my lifetime. You'll find that a lot of women either aren't bothered or even vibe with such designs and express that through cosplay and fan art. I don't understand why this game has to be some deep cultural battleground: we can examine and criticise media while still enjoying it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/stellar-blade-previews-demo-thread-staff-post-threadmarked.831270/post-121162122

:O

Windrunner chooses violence

Ok 45 guests currently viewing: don't be shy - tell us how YOU feel having sat by the inviting bonfire of the crossroads at the gaming industry lately. Did it make you feel seen? Included? WELCOME?!

You won't get banned for telling the truth, although I understand if you don't believe me at first.

[Nintex]

man.... at this rate Idk how we will even make it to April 26th...

Let alone the beautiful sunny day of November 5th

[DocWager]

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1712002039[/url]']How do they take any of this seriously? The (((chuds))) are using one platform exclusive game and "Gamergate 2" (a small handful of people complaining about a single company?) to erase everything? What? How? Can any of them possibly explain any aspect of this? I'm so completely baffled at how they've made themselves believe this nonsense.

Oh, so you're saying the chuds aren't doing this when they openly post that they are?

That’s more likes than Jeff, or the yellow dog ever received.

That says how much people outside Eea think that place is a total fucking joke of the industry.

[Nintex]

I actually lol'd I saw that 5 million units post.

Even Alan Wake 2 has ""only"" sold 1.3 million as of February

They don't think it'll sell 5 million copies.

Show them how wrong they are gamers.
If Shift Up actually manages to bring over some their NIKKE fans to PS5 it'll cross 5 mil easily.

[clockwork5]

ClickyCunt:

They want to make it so characters like Aloy, Abby, etc can no longer be created and every game and character will be like SB and Eve.

The audacity lol

[Eric Cartman]

It must have to be cultural. They're so ensconced in an echo chamber bubble where everything is immediately taken to 11, step eleven of genocide, that they just naturally try to come up with the most terrible thing that can be in any way connected to something they don't like. I don't like this. Why don't I like this? Well, it has to be the way women are portrayed because I really care about that as a strong lesbian and this offends me for not showing true lesbianism. Therefore this will harm all women and make it so every game is Custer's Revenge. Nobody will publish anything but Custer's Revenge type games created with AI. And then the flames will engulf all of us just as the white supremacists at Sony who signed off on Stellar Blade wanted.

I have no idea why I'm trying to out loud reason through this. I just so desperately need to understand.

I'll be honest, I don't even think its that deeply motivated.

They're mad because they told people to listen to them and do as they're told, and people said no, fuck off.

[Eric Cartman]

CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE SHITLORD, DEHUMANISING WOMYN ISN'T AN 'OPINION'

[Greatness Gone]

How do they take any of this seriously? The (((chuds))) are using one platform exclusive game and "Gamergate 2" (a small handful of people complaining about a single company?) to erase everything? What? How? Can any of them possibly explain any aspect of this? I'm so completely baffled at how they've made themselves believe this nonsense.

Oh, so you're saying the chuds aren't doing this when they openly post that they are?

I unironically don’t understand that guy’s joke. Does he not know that woman?

[Averon]

Elon's in on it now:

I think it's more likely that Twitter is pushing this game deliberately because it's a figurehead of the anti-feminist culture war.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

How do they take any of this seriously? The (((chuds))) are using one platform exclusive game and "Gamergate 2" (a small handful of people complaining about a single company?) to erase everything? What? How? Can any of them possibly explain any aspect of this? I'm so completely baffled at how they've made themselves believe this nonsense.

Oh, so you're saying the chuds aren't doing this when they openly post that they are?

What thread is this from?