Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Boredfrom]

Choosing your battles and pull out when you are wining is a lost skill.

complacency and continual acceptance/retreat is what got us to this point

it's cringe to talk emotionally about a war but there is good reason to defend things you like as you like them, and make efforts to keep them that way

Why do you need to prop a dude that doesn’t deserve it?  

You are making the same mistakes as the GG and AntiGG guys did years ago.

The fact that ERA would agree that “complacency and continual acceptance/retreat” is a problem should tip you off THAT IS NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM.

[BananaBlast]

In such a funk right now. I've been struggling for months to find a game that could hold my attention, then it lands in my lap only to just be ephemeral.

Additionally, the entire discourse around this game has utterly destroyed the few vestiges of goodwill I had for this site. So many people are just so damn performative.
- People don't want layoffs, but they want entire studios to disappear because they didn't like a game
- People want diversity, but only if those characters are fuckable
- People say gameplay is king, then proclaim the jankiest fucking nonsense as the best thing ever and ignore legitimately great playing games
- People hate battle pass and microtransaction culture but won't pay for a mid-priced game

It wouldn't be so bad if people were just like "well the game's not for me", but instead it's just constant punching down on every single fucking thing they don't like, and I'm just so fucking done with it. It's just brain rot toxicity and it's making us all worse people because of it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-ot-calling-all-freeguners-game-being-shut-down-sep-6th-check-threadmarks.957465/page-65#post-128130774

Stop fucking projecting, shemhazai!

[Boredfrom]

My dude, you are going to get hurt by this guy.

you attach way too much meaning to the most innocuous things, I'm not a follower, worshipping and groveling at his feet, I take as much stock in everything as it deserves

he points out more worthwhile things that are important to be signal boosted than he does cringeworthy things (and it's also cringeworthy to base your entire life around what is cringe or not)

how am I supposed to get hurt? he convinces me not to buy a game and I don't buy it, but really I should've bought that game all along, oh no??

That sounds like ERA line of defense when people points their favs being assholes. 

“No, we need people like Zoe Quinn fighting the CHUDs. Doesn’t matter she has not released the Chuck Tingle game that got promoted in Vice”.

[Uncle]

Why do you need to prop a dude that doesn’t deserve it?  

I think your issue is that you're a people-focused person rather than an idea-focused person

I don't prop up "him," I think the things he points out are worth pointing out and signal boosting, and it would be equally worth it if anyone else was doing it

and the things he says which are stupid would be equally stupid if anyone else were saying them

you think that others instantly throw their entire lot in with individuals and make them their entire personality, perhaps because that's your own natural inclination, rather than evaluating every piece of information on its own merits



now if you'll excuse me, I have to go read up on the latest stupid shit melody shreds said

[kaleidoscopium]

Yeah dude, I've been kind of over the community for awhile unfortunately. And it makes me legitimately sad, because this community was one of the nice little oases on the internet. But I've kind of not felt that way for awhile; that the general broader influence of the wider internet has crept into and fully permeated throughout this community. I know this is metacommentary, so I don't want to speak on in it too much. But yes, definitely. I agree with you and everything you say right here.

Been reading this community for almost 20 years and only decided to become more of an actual participant in the discourse when the schism happened. So I do care, but man, it is hard. There is a lot I could and would want to say, but it is best not to as there's literally no point in doing so.

I wrote a post earlier saying that this game was some incredible sci-fi, and man has it really proved it. Because it has exposed people to such a degree in a way that I don't think I've ever quite seen from another piece of artwork.

....


You would think this, but alas. You know what they say about making assumptions!

Oh well.

This game has constantly got me thinking about two of my favorite idioms/proverbs:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink."

and

Matthew 7:6: "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-ot-calling-all-freeguners-game-being-shut-down-sep-6th-check-threadmarks.957465/page-65#post-128131476

This guy has gone fully mental

[Uncle]

The fact that ERA would agree that “complacency and continual acceptance/retreat” is a problem should tip you off THAT IS NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM.

that's pretty much literally why there's a conflict, ANY conflict anywhere

if one side wants to promote themselves and their ideas and the other is complacent, then yes, the other side will advance

the fact that era would agree is the reason it matters



"b-but if you defend the things you like then you're behaving just like the eeeeenemy" yes, also I breathe air and drink water just like hitler did

[kaleidoscopium]

Tomorrow's the big day for noodlesoups criminal case, based on what TheLeftistLawyer said it isn't expected to be going well...

[Taco Bell Tower]

Okay, I love Cyberpunk so I'm fine and happy with trans characters in my game. But in no goddamn way is the character on the left indicative of the woman on the right. Its not even slightly close. Aside from skin color it doesn't suggest her at all. Was she just VA? Thats the only way it makes sense.

I think is just VA? Pink news is not exactly reliable to begin with and you know TransERA would have said something if this was the actual case.

Doesn't Ree loathe pinknews now?

[PogiJones]

I'm always telling my son, "It doesn't matter who's right, it only matters what's right." Sometimes Grummz is right, sometimes he's not. Sometimes Biden is right, sometimes he's not. Same with Kamala, Trump, Elon, Brianna Wu, etc. If a grifter says the sky is blue, I'm not gonna be like, "wow, can't believe you're listening to the grifter."

The only one who's always wrong is riotous.

[DocWager]

The best thing about Concord controversy… They stopped talking about Israel for a few days. Maybe they’ll stop talking about it so much like the “Trans Genocide”.

[Boredfrom]

Why do you need to prop a dude that doesn’t deserve it?  

I think your issue is that you're a people-focused person rather than an idea-focused person

I don't prop up "him," I think the things he points out are worth pointing out and signal boosting, and it would be equally worth it if anyone else was doing it

and the things he says which are stupid would be equally stupid if anyone else were saying them

you think that others instantly throw their entire lot in with individuals and make them their entire personality, perhaps because that's your own natural inclination, rather than evaluating every piece of information on its own merits



now if you'll excuse me, I have to go read up on the latest stupid shit melody shreds said

"Más sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo"

Again, just remember Rekieta. Good for you if you don’t get attached, but dunno if you accomplish anything in the long turn when the “idea guy” is so clueless and willing to throw small victories under the bus.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Yeah dude, I've been kind of over the community for awhile unfortunately. And it makes me legitimately sad, because this community was one of the nice little oases on the internet. But I've kind of not felt that way for awhile; that the general broader influence of the wider internet has crept into and fully permeated throughout this community. I know this is metacommentary, so I don't want to speak on in it too much. But yes, definitely. I agree with you and everything you say right here.

Been reading this community for almost 20 years and only decided to become more of an actual participant in the discourse when the schism happened. So I do care, but man, it is hard. There is a lot I could and would want to say, but it is best not to as there's literally no point in doing so.

I wrote a post earlier saying that this game was some incredible sci-fi, and man has it really proved it. Because it has exposed people to such a degree in a way that I don't think I've ever quite seen from another piece of artwork.

....


You would think this, but alas. You know what they say about making assumptions!

Oh well.

This game has constantly got me thinking about two of my favorite idioms/proverbs:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink."

and

Matthew 7:6: "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-ot-calling-all-freeguners-game-being-shut-down-sep-6th-check-threadmarks.957465/page-65#post-128131476

This guy has gone fully mental

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-discussion-stay-civil-dont-get-personal-keep-it-in-here.1506304/page-184#post-256722387

Era is a meant to be a safe place for people like me to share and be open with like minded members and not be judged harshly and laughed at. There are very few places for people with disabilities that are safe and Era is one of them.

But you have bad people outside of the forum with bad intentions cherry picking posts with no context to them and laughing at them. Obviously I cant do anything about otherwise I would shut them down for good.

Same energy

[Boredfrom]

The fact that ERA would agree that “complacency and continual acceptance/retreat” is a problem should tip you off THAT IS NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM.

that's pretty much literally why there's a conflict, ANY conflict anywhere

if one side wants to promote themselves and their ideas and the other is complacent, then yes, the other side will advance

the fact that era would agree is the reason it matters



"b-but if you defend the things you like then you're behaving just like the eeeeenemy" yes, also I breathe air and drink water just like hitler did

 

Good ERA sounding post.

Pretty sure Nepenthe or Dice have said something similar, with the Hitlef example too.

[TylenolJones]

I will never get over the hate this game gets for the character designs. This is better than 99% of the MWIII shop skins.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-93#post-128006973

These people are getting so paranoid about their DEI boogeyman that they are going down the "portrayal = endorsement" road where they don't want these things to be mentioned even if they are portrayed negatively, because they throw a fit about them even existing in any ways.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Yeah dude, I've been kind of over the community for awhile unfortunately. And it makes me legitimately sad, because this community was one of the nice little oases on the internet. But I've kind of not felt that way for awhile; that the general broader influence of the wider internet has crept into and fully permeated throughout this community. I know this is metacommentary, so I don't want to speak on in it too much. But yes, definitely. I agree with you and everything you say right here.

Been reading this community for almost 20 years and only decided to become more of an actual participant in the discourse when the schism happened. So I do care, but man, it is hard. There is a lot I could and would want to say, but it is best not to as there's literally no point in doing so.

I wrote a post earlier saying that this game was some incredible sci-fi, and man has it really proved it. Because it has exposed people to such a degree in a way that I don't think I've ever quite seen from another piece of artwork.

....


You would think this, but alas. You know what they say about making assumptions!

Oh well.

This game has constantly got me thinking about two of my favorite idioms/proverbs:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink."

and

Matthew 7:6: "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-ot-calling-all-freeguners-game-being-shut-down-sep-6th-check-threadmarks.957465/page-65#post-128131476

This guy has gone fully mental

Sacrilegious dolt. 

[DocWager]

Yeah dude, I've been kind of over the community for awhile unfortunately. And it makes me legitimately sad, because this community was one of the nice little oases on the internet. But I've kind of not felt that way for awhile; that the general broader influence of the wider internet has crept into and fully permeated throughout this community. I know this is metacommentary, so I don't want to speak on in it too much. But yes, definitely. I agree with you and everything you say right here.

Been reading this community for almost 20 years and only decided to become more of an actual participant in the discourse when the schism happened. So I do care, but man, it is hard. There is a lot I could and would want to say, but it is best not to as there's literally no point in doing so.

I wrote a post earlier saying that this game was some incredible sci-fi, and man has it really proved it. Because it has exposed people to such a degree in a way that I don't think I've ever quite seen from another piece of artwork.

....


You would think this, but alas. You know what they say about making assumptions!

Oh well.

This game has constantly got me thinking about two of my favorite idioms/proverbs:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink."

and

Matthew 7:6: "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concord-ot-calling-all-freeguners-game-being-shut-down-sep-6th-check-threadmarks.957465/page-65#post-128131476

This guy has gone fully mental

Well you talk about your proverbs. Your Matthew 7:6’s. The Bire 7:6 says The CHUDS whooped your ass!!!

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

Tomorrow's the big day for noodlesoups criminal case, based on what TheLeftistLawyer said it isn't expected to be going well...

 Noodle soup gets a record and becomes a hero or Noodlesoup gets a slap on the wrist and gets ignored.

[remy]

I will never get over the hate this game gets for the character designs. This is better than 99% of the MWIII shop skins.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

she's literally so sick and you're laughing

[Uncle]

Again, just remember Rekieta. 

what I remember is that he said that all trials should be publicly broadcast to protect everyone involved and to edify the public, and that was a good point when he said it

it doesn't suddenly make it a bad point when he turns out to be an asshole

he desperately hopes more people would be like you and suddenly take up the opposite position from everything he once said, in order to invalidate those ideas and keep his total embarrassment private

[Polident]

Somehow these guys get angry and confused when average people prefer attractive and appealing characters. Unironic incel mindset aside, you see the painful attempts at changing beauty standards, only for average people to reject it and defiantly proclaim “Sydney Sweeney is hot.”

[PogiJones]

I really like that boredfrom pushes back against the forum majority even when I'm with the majority; I just wish he weren't making such bad arguments doing so. 

[Uncle]

The fact that ERA would agree that “complacency and continual acceptance/retreat” is a problem should tip you off THAT IS NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM.

that's pretty much literally why there's a conflict, ANY conflict anywhere

if one side wants to promote themselves and their ideas and the other is complacent, then yes, the other side will advance

the fact that era would agree is the reason it matters



"b-but if you defend the things you like then you're behaving just like the eeeeenemy" yes, also I breathe air and drink water just like hitler did

 

Good ERA sounding post.

Pretty sure Nepenthe or Dice have said something similar, with the Hitlef example too.

see this is a further example of the eleanor roosevelt quote, you think association with a name or a person is all it takes to invalidate a point, that the vague appearance of an attachment to "cringe" is somehow what matters more than reality

imagine being in an argument where you're staunchly defending the value of complacency and letting others' ideas roll over you

refusing to budge on this very important point that defending what you believe in is cringe because some cringe people once defended what they believed in

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-94#post-128083653

There are a lot of things in ERA I simply can't understand like how many Wukong threads do we need?. It's simply tiring...

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamergate-2-0-chuds-furious-about-a-consulting-company-named-%E2%80%9Csweet-baby-inc%E2%80%9D-which-overviews-scripts-to-make-sure-nothing-offensive-was-written.823731/page-94#post-128130582

Because it's about being a showman and twisting things the opponent said moreso than countering. It doesn't matter if you have points or counter-points, you can still "win" in the eyes of the public simply by making the other person look bad.

[ComeAgain]

Jenna Ortega has said to hell with reimagining traditionally male characters into women, let women lead their own, new franchises.

Time for Era to make Beetlejuice Beetlejuice the latest member of their game/movie/tv show that shall not be named club. 

[Potato]

My thrash metal album only sold 3 copies.

Tell me more

[Boredfrom]

that's pretty much literally why there's a conflict, ANY conflict anywhere

if one side wants to promote themselves and their ideas and the other is complacent, then yes, the other side will advance

the fact that era would agree is the reason it matters



"b-but if you defend the things you like then you're behaving just like the eeeeenemy" yes, also I breathe air and drink water just like hitler did

 

Good ERA sounding post.

Pretty sure Nepenthe or Dice have said something similar, with the Hitlef example too.

see this is a further example of the eleanor roosevelt quote, you think association with a name or a person is all it takes to invalidate a point, that the vague appearance of an attachment to "cringe" is somehow what matters more than reality

imagine being in an argument where you're staunchly defending the value of complacency and letting others' ideas roll over you

refusing to budge on this very important point that defending what you believe in is cringe because some cringe people once defended what they believed in

But, in this specific case, I’m not invalidating your point as much as pointing out how incredibly similar it sounds like ERA and that may you pause, think if you will, about it. 

Is about compromise. Because maybe you are right about me being a people person over an idea person. Maybe you have a point and I should take it to account.

I disagree in “complacency” or not pushing back… if that was the case I would have pulled a Riotous or Nola a long time ago.

[Boredfrom]

If I was complacent I would be: “YES DADDY GRUMMZ GIVE ME MORE” 

The fact that I giving you a pushback isn’t prove enough?

[kaleidoscopium]

Turns out bluesky lets you create "lists" to collect users in whatever categories you'd like. I made one to keep track of all the resetera member accounts we find. Feel free to follow or add more as you discover them
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ue7ybgjeys5ui3wzybix3swh/lists/3l3c6djrc4t2z

[Potato]

You have to give Sony some credit that they didn’t waste any time and have refunded the 5 poor bastards who bought the thing. Remember how hard they fought against giving refunds for Cyberpunk

That's the funny thing. Remove all the cocks who got the game for free as review copies and how many people actually bought it? How many people were continuing to buy it? It must have been pretty fucking dire for them to abandon ship like this so fast.